So now that Lahaina has been sealed off from the rest of humanity, let us take the time to consider exactly what occurred. Everything from DEWs to arson to blue lasers and more have been suggested; but what really matters is what happened, not how it happened, and why.
The first and most important takeaway from this ordeal is that “our” government just showed us they are perfectly capable of building a wall and securing it, given the proper motivation (which in this case is some of the most prime real estate on Earth). That is foremost. They can keep anybody out they want, in no time at all. (And notice this did not happen in, say, Gary, Indiana, or Chicago, by the way.)
THEY PUT THESE UP IN HOURS. THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A MINUTE.
The second issue of importance is, what happened to the school children who were sent home? Did they walk, or were they transported in a bus, as school kids often are? Let us have a look at that:
There was a total of 47 schools in Lahaina; 16 preschools, 6 Elementary Schools, 4 Middle Schools, 3 High Schools, 4 public district schools and 14 private schools. Lahainalua High School, as well as most others, are located on a stretch of Lahinalua Road, which is well away from where the town itself was devastated. Curiously, or perhaps not, is this headline from Fox Weather (https://www.foxweather.com/lifestyle/hawaii-wildfires-maui-schools) on August 15:
Most Maui schools to reopen, while Lahaina elementary school ‘damaged beyond repair’
Again, since the Elementary and most other schools in Lahaina, who were far enough away from the fire, escaped major damage, why is the Elementary School the one irreparable? A crucial piece of evidence, suspiciously missing. And that is not even considering the other pertinent question: what about the buses, did they transport kids or not, and if so, where did they take them (as they obviously could not go into Lahaina)?
WHERE ARE THE KIDS?
(Could it be that Elementary School-aged children are the most vulnerable to child predation and satanic cults? Surely not — that’s just crazy talk. The Who, which includes the convicted child paedophile Pete Townshend, assured us long ago “The Kids Are Alright.” Nothing to see here, move along.)
The third consideration of import: the “perfect storm” of incompetence which seems to be a commonality of all these happenings. Any one of us who performed our jobs in such a deplorable fashion would be terminated with prejudice; yet the Governor, the Mayor and even the police chief still have chairs to warm. This was so ham-handed they apparently had to call in the same guy who was responsible for the fiasco in Las Vegas a few years ago, just to ensure they had the right guy in there.
At no time does any city undergo the loss of its power, water and mobility, unless the agencies who handle such things are commanded to stand down — what this says about the implicit people who follow these directives is another matter entirely, though one which ought not be forgot — and let it all burn. As we have heard so many times in the past, “I was just doing my job” is the unifying phrase when events like Lahaina and Nuremburg occur.
(If I was “just doing my job,” our streets would be safe, my children would grow to be men and women, and our elected officials would be answerable to the people they supposedly represent; but I’m an Entitled White Christian Male. I’m not allowed to protect my community.)
Has it ever occurred to anyone that the people in Lahaina who had children may have been ransomed by the government in order to procure the respective families’ silence and/or compliance?
Again with that crazy talk!
Lastly, the glaring white elephant in the room: a few elites, like Oprah and The Rock and some other notable million/billionaires who own huge tracts of Maui land, and whose land escaped unscathed from the obliteration, are now acting like they care about the indigenous Hawaiians who lived on Maui for generations, asking for donations to help them.
Please read that absurd paragraph again; let it percolate.
Multi-milllion/billionaires, who could take in those families they profess to care for and give them a place to live while their homes were being rebuilt — it’s not like they don’t have the land for it — and actually assist the natives, are instead using their celebrity media status to ask us non-glitterati to send money. I just can’t.
How about, instead of taking my sucker money, I volunteer to join a group of people who might go to Lahaina and be of service to those in need? Oops — I forgot! Nobody’s allowed in there but government types. And I would be shot if I tried to argue about it too long.
SO WHERE DOES THIS LEAVE US?
It leaves us right here: we do not have a government, we have a collection of self-appointed elites who have complete control of our taxpayer-funded defense contractors, military and economy, who may at any time use the superior weapons at their disposal to enact environmental, societal and/or financial chaos as they see fit. Lahaina (and Canada) has shown to us all that when these people want something, they will kill anyone or thing in their way by hook or by crook, and then go have a massage with a happy ending. It is a painful reality that if we ever do try and unseat these satanic creatures they will hurt us in ways we never thought of; but they need us, at least those of us not in places like Lahaina, because without us they are nothing.
Honestly, WOPR in “Wargames” told us precisely what we need to do: The only way to win is not to play the game.
Resist them; tell them no; and the worst thing of all you can do, ignore them, and live your life and take care of your family as best you can. As we were meant to live according to God.
They can burn us out here, temporarily — but where they are going it is them who will be burning eternally.
Reminds me of Post-Waco, Post-Murrah Building, and Post-Twin towers where the government refused independent examinations and quickly destroyed all evidence.
I learned to wear blue, drive blue cars, live in blue dwellings . . . and probably have Kentucky bluegrass lawns.
Oh, and abolish the state.
So you and these guys are ahead of the curve, then.
But Patsy Cline got there before everybody:
That is actually LeAnn Rimes singing the song. Patsy Cline never recorded that song to the best of my knowledge (although it was written before she died). I have her complete anthology, and that song is not on it.
You’re right, Patsy never recorded it; she died before she could, but the song had been given to her husband and agent, who planned for her to do so.
That is indeed LeAnn, but she does channel a nice Patsy, doesn’t she?
Stop … stop … you’re giving me the blues …
Hopefully …..a few more learned the democrat party controlled government WANTS YOU DEAD !
The government WANTS YOU DEAD!
FIFY
You are under one party rule now………….the democrat party.
FIFY
The UNIPARTY, paid off whores who like money enough to give you commie totalitarian rule.
Marvin: “You know what’s wrong with the world?”
Sarah: “…they are all trying to kill us?”
Marvin: “EXACTLY!!”
The black fencing; just how did a local govt so quickly, determine it was “needed”. Then, contracted for the purchase of the black material, metal poles, retention clips, misc. Then, they needed the equipment and personnel knowledgeable enough to install it and do the actual installation. All this was contracted for, delivered and installed in mere days to an island half way across the Pacific ocean?
Not fucking possible unless pre-planned.
Not possible on the mainland with superior logistics and supplies. Just try to acquire enough fence supplies for a farm fence of that length and let me know how long it takes you.
You got it, and the fence is a delay tactic to keep people from immediately rebuilding, and force them into selling for cheap.
It is a well established fact that whenever the governments are accomplishing evil, they are masters of planning and execution.
At no other time or task do they ever display any observable competence.
S
I don’t think many got your point Eud.
Not sure whether or not you comment is sarcasm, but the government is like any other (successful) organization when it comes to being competent. It is very competent when it is pursuing its own interests. But it does not do a good job of pursuing the interests of the public at large. This is usually attributed by the public to incompetence, but it is not incompetence – it is indifference. The government just doesn’t care about you in most cases.
This is related to an erroneous belief known as Hanlon’s razor: “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity”. This is used by many people to dismiss “conspiracy theories” because they claim the government is incompetent rather than evil. But in actuality the government is usually evil and/or indifferent rather than incompetent.
The important phrase (and the part always ignored by the sheep) is “adequately explained”. The sheep seem to think it should read “ALWAYS explained”. Sure, the Maui fire disaster could be explained by stupidity if it were ONLY the water turned off. Or ONLY the sirens not working. Or ONLY the road closed, etc. But when there is a long chain of actions all pointing toward the same end, that is not stupidity; that is purpose.
But when there is a long chain of actions all pointing toward the same end, that is not stupidity; that is purpose.
Or?
Precedence for future collections of failures by TPTB.
Hiring for diversity instead of competence can lead to cascading failures of competence.
“Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity”
Nice^^^^^
But never discount that it COULD be malice.
Plus, there are plenty of stupid AND malicious. Blends vary.
True enough.
The Lahaina fire is 100 percent contained but not yet extinguished.
I am comfortable with it having been a vintage of blended malice/incompetence grapes.
The precursor to all of it and it only took minutes
DemonAutocracy thrives in the dark. It also loves pizza.
Yet another fire based ritual sacrifice.
Like the Haitian earthquakes, we will never know how many of these children perished in the fire or whether they were kidnapped with this chaos as a useful smokescreen. Hard to believe all these parents would stay quite if their kids were MIA; which makes me think either the numbers are totally faked, or the true death toll is orders of magnitude more severe than they’ve admitted.
Indeed CO, the answers to these questions go from bad to worse. Incompetence does not explain this, as they are more than competent when it comes to keeping people out or shutting down honest reporting.
The Route 91 connection is just the cherry on top. You know that police chief is read in.
The blackout fence is the same tactic they used in Vegas after the Harvest festival shooting. I’m sure that it is in part to delay people from getting in to force sales quicker, but mainly it is to secure and destroy any evidence of the gooberment involvement in nefarious activities surrounding the fire.
You are on your own.
Nobody is coming to save you.
The “government” is not here to help.
Public infrastructure is unreliable and often dangerous.
The official truth will kill you.
Be vigilant.
Train for situational awareness.
Always know your exit.
Always have a contingency.
In the heat of the moment be prepared to become what TPTB consider “unlawful.”
Trust your “gut”, intuition is often correct.
Urban environments are natural kill boxes; the sushi and ‘music scene’ better be worth it.
Insta-communications fail instantly, discuss and habituate the procedures and patterns of making choices and movements with your loved ones.
When occupied by the death cult, a “Paradise” becomes a hell-on-earth in an instant; there is nowhere they can’t inflict harm.
Map your area.
Know who you can rely upon and who you cannot. If you don’t know them, you cannot.
Get with God and pray for your soul.
Enjoy life and the bounty that remains while calling upon God’s grace to undertake the tasks of the day and the suffering of this life just the same.
The Truth and beauty are everywhere, practice noticing it, especially when under duress.
All of this and more are a work-in-progress; the work is never done.
Making such lists is good practice in reminding myself how much more work I need to do and how flabby I am in many areas.
Aren’t we already there with our “wrong think” and questioning attitudes?
Yes, like so many paperwork “felons” stamped under the various dragnet call options of Fedgov Tax or ATF “law”, being unlawful can be a state of being, but there also remains a distinction between one’s criminal thoughts and attitudes and what one actually does in the physical moments to which the above referenced.
As a self-proclaimed dissident the unlawfulness is assumed, but I remind myself that my wrongthink and contrarian anti-fedgov/empire/globohomo positions are mostly skippin rope and shadow boxing and so being prepared to convert the potential to the kinetic in a heartbeat when the bell rings is a skill of its own worth noting.
But, but… the fence is not blue!
I suspect the “Blue” issue will become repeated “fact” from now on.
AFAICT, there is zero proof of the “blue theory”, but as can be seen, it is treated as an absolute solid FACT by the faithful.
Watch the next fire for the “LOOK, BLUE!” crowd being absolutely certain about that.
BTW, when I say PROOF, I mean verifiable fact and not some “I know it is true” BS that fools the credulous.
I saw a video somewhere that showed a laser being tested and it did not burn any blue items. It’s may not be prove positive, but you can do a little research of your own if you are curious rather then just blindly ridicule.
So post it.
It is not ridicule, it is observation of normal human behaviour, arrogant ignorance and unconscious bias.
I didn’t save the link, just go out and do your own research is the point instead of wait for someone else to do it. I don’t have any proof either way and neither do you apparently since you didn’t post any thing to back up your claim. There does seem to be something that is off about the whole mess but we will probably never know.
Here I found the video I referenced but I don’t know how valid it is, but it took me all of 30 seconds to search and find it.
Back up what? My “I suspect”? Or the “AFAICT”?
Pathetic attempt at a strawman. Try harder.
vid posted for you
Thanks.
Now this proves what exactly?
I am curious as to what you conclude from this and how much thought you put into that conclusion.
Care to share your path of reasoning and what it proves?
moron. he puts up proof, to the lazy, who then wants it explained.
go away, no name. ya makin’ me tahred.
Proof of what, exactly?
Is this the same material as on Maui? Is it the same DEW (allegedly) used on Maui? What spectrum values?
Let us talk about lazy. Did you just simply accept the video as proof or did you investigate AT ALL? Any attempt to disprove?
Would the fire from the other burning cloths burn the blue cloth?
If not, why not?
I don’t know if you are the same Anonymous troll who has been viciously attacking every commenter here (especially Mark and BL) who has suggested that the Lahaina fire was caused by DEWs. But regardless of whether the fire was started by DEWs, plain old arson, downed electrical lines, or something else, the subsequent actions and cover-up by the authorities (blocking roads out of Lahaina, not sounding the warning signals, shutting off the water, putting up fences to hide their activities, etc) provide enough evidence to suggest the fire was deliberate, and there certainly needs to be an objective investigation into what happened. But there won’t be. They will cover up everything, and they will attack everyone questioning the official narrative by using trolls like you.
Ah the old, “they disagree with me and point out the errors in our thinking, so they are TROLLS!”
Viciously attack? Dear god you must be an epic snowflake if that is what you think questioning their arrogant assumptions is.
And yes, I am the same Anon that has been pointing out the LIES mark has posted. The ones he suddenly ignores and moves on to posting the next hysterical BS he sees.
dickhead
Mark posted a laser cutting through different colored fabric about 10 days ago in the comments section of an article posted here on TBP(sorry, I can’t remember the article). The laser didn’t faze the blue cloth but torched all the other colors.
opps, I see Tony posted it above
Indeed.
But nobody has explained why fire started by the laser would not burn blue items.
Fire is predominantly nondiscriminatory, irrespective of its igniter.
If the material is flammable, regardless of color, it will burn in a firestorm.
And if not, why not?
I’m pretty sure that is why people are so puzzled about these fires, is that it does seem that fires DO discriminate about what it burns, and how it behaves, and not just about blue items.
Ask any fireman (or pyromaniac – not mutually exclusive); fire, like lightning (and electricity in general) often acts in confounding ways.
Even modelling combustion in controlled environments like an ICE piston is inherently difficult. If you want some mind-bending studies, take a dive into combustion dynamics.
Once a flamefront develops, managing it and directing the burn is no easy task especially without direct fuel delivery control.
Many a professional pyromaniac and even more professional firemen fall victim to underestimating an inferno’s behavior…
Well I haven’t asked a bunch of firemen directly, but I have seen a bunch say these fires and such are hinky going back to OKC at least. Including several about lahaina.
I think we need to back up a moment and look at what a laser actually is: the word stands for Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation – which in a technical sense explains how lasers operate.
Though to be more precise, lasers today don’t amplify the light – they oscillate the waves within the beam to arrange them in a neat and tidy order.
What that means is, the waves of radioactive light already have to exist for lasers to be able to arrange them into a coherent beam. Light that passes through the gain medium all ends up the same color. Exactly the same. Identical wavelength, same direction, same polarization. Just a little more of it.
Considering that heat, in the electromagnetic spectrum, tends towards “hot” colors, like blue and white, to a blue laser anything not blue would be seen like wearing 3-D glasses and only looking through the blue lens. Simply put, it cannot see the color blue due to its innate filter.
I am not saying this is what happened in Lahaina, but it does fit the criteria.
I was under the impression that the schools were closed before classes started, which would have left the children home alone (if both parents worked outside the home) with no one to guide them to safety. Regardless, they either burned to death alone (or with their parents). Someone who lived there testified that a family of 4 was found all together burned to death. This probably happened a lot more than we know, either in their cars or houses or on the run.
It’s absurdly dry where I live in Missouri and hotter than normal for this time of year. Windy today. But we have wells and springs everywhere. I do believe they intend to eventually burn or flood or maybe have a train carrying toxic chemicals spill causing evacuations to remove as many rurals as they can.
Look what they did in Ohio this past Spring … and those folks didn’t even get $700.
all agenda 2030, move all rural people into the cities
I believe those barriers are to keep the toxic ash from washing into the ocean. This is not to excuse the power company and its incestuous relationship with the govt. which caused this terrible devastation.
Do you really believe the people who did this to Lahaina care about anything toxic leaking into the ocean(s)? Japan just recently released Fukushima-irradiated water back into the same ocean from which they obtain most of their food, unbelievably. (Like they learned nothing from Godzilla.)
They are criss-crossing the skies with their toxic sprays, treating our food with chemicals that are deadly to us, spiking our drinking water with fluoride to keep us docile: their ways of killing us are plentiful.
We must stop them while we still have a (slight) chance.
The power company cut the power off 6 hours before ANY fire was reported/started around Lahaina or in the city of Lahaina. They have no culpability in the fire, the fires did not start from downed electric lines.
That a large amount of people are credulous, ignorant, arrogant and self-deluded fools.
That with no proof, plenty will go off with “THIS IS WHAT REALLAY HAPPENED!!!!” and get quite bitchy when questioned about their obviously illogical leaps to “knowing” that which they could not possibly “know”.
That when someone’s pet “truth” is shown to be completely false, they will simply ignore that and carry on spouting more BS, ignoring that they were totally wrong about the previous BS.
I could go on, but what would be the point? Those who know, know. Those who don’t, assume they do.
The percentage of up vs down, speaks volumes about the posters at TBP.
IMO, the majority of TBP posters behave as described above. Quite sad.
IMO, we sure have a few dumbass non-critical thinking willfully ignorant government worshiping douchebags on TBP.
Quite sad.
Are you suggesting I “worship government” based on something in my post, or just tossing it out as an attempt at meaningless insult?
Specifically what about my post do you have a problem with? Am I wrong? If so, how?
Meaningful insult.
Don’t get your panties in a bunch tough guy.
I don’t want to distract you from battling BL for the world championship of anonymous internet commenting.
To you maybe. To me? Just another angry impotent post by someone trying insulting to evade addressing the salient point. Thanks for the help with exemplifying exactly that which I put in my original post.
If the rationalization makes you feel right about what you do (or avoid doing), so be it.
That’s funny. I’m not the one who responded to the anonymous post above as if I was a different anonymous. Do you pretend to agree with yourself often on TBP? That is a particularly pathetic impotent trait. Do you believe you are two different anonymous commenters? Do you talk to yourself when you aren’t lowering all of our IQs by posting your drivel on TBP? Really Sad.
Say what? How the fuck did you come to that conclusion? Based on what?
I was commenting on the up/down votes on my previous comment.
IP address rocket scientist. LOL
Not an answer to the question posed.
Where did I attempt to say I was a “different” anon?
I know you have the IP, so trying to pretend I was a different anon would not be something I would do anyway.
Any other brilliant comment you want to copy and post on another thread?
You bore me.
LOL.
Avoiding the question I see.
This has been quite enlightening about you and your thought processes and honour Admin.
See you need to get the last word. Your type always do. You really haven’t enlightened me one iota. You’re pretty much a nothingburger. See ya.
Comprehension challenged I see. Do you even understand context?
Last word again. I guess it’s a mental illness thing.
Then it seems we both suffer from it, doesn’t it?
You really should go read my OP again and then read through the responses.
QED.
Is this you at home?
How childish.
Admitting the obvious …….. it’s a start.
Do keep current on all vaxx boosting.
I learned that the government/billionaires/corporations can kill us off and get away with it. This lesson taught us that they will continue to use DEWs. I believe the children were burned alive so there will be no future generation with claim to that land and THEY get bonus points for child sacrifice.
This article is a real eye opener:
http://www.truth11.com/hawaiis-deep-state-billionaires/
That was fascinating. Thank you for posting the link.
I get emails from MoneyCircus who is the link for the original. He writes some good substack articles. Always has sourced links.
As Captain Obvious stated, regardless of how the fires started, whether simple arson or DEWS, it’s the rest of the story that matters. Now we are hearing nothing from survivors. No Tic Tok updates, nothing.
From the article
Thank you for the thought-provoking post, C.O.
Thank you for your kind words, Unc.
Looking forward to your next article!
Looks like an unburned building and trees on the other side of thatfence.
Jes sain.
This just in from the Lahaina news:
County restrictions lifted for Lahaina Gateway Center and Walgreens parcels
By Staff | Sep 6, 2023
The Lahaina fire is 100 percent contained but not yet extinguished.
Repeat for emphasis:
The Lahaina fire is 100 percent contained but not yet extinguished.