The Wolves Within, Part I

Originally posted at Dispatches from Reality, by Scipio Eruditusdfreality.substack.com


29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous WOLVES enter in among you, not sparing the flock.

30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.”

— Acts of the Apostles 20:29-30 KJV


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From the dawn of Christian orthodoxy, pernicious heresies have lurked at the fringes, seeking to subvert the unadulterated truth of the Gospel. The Apostle Peter warned us from the infancy of the Church that false prophets would seek to infiltrate the ranks of the faithful, clandestinely introducing doctrines of perdition that undermine the very foundations of our faith:

But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

— Second Epistle of Peter 2:1 KJV

These damnable heresies, veiled in deception, have ever threatened to lead astray the unwary and undiscerning.

In the perilous modern landscape of theology, the injunction of the Apostle Paul to the Corinthians resonates with renewed urgency:

But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

Second Epistle to the Corinthians 11:3-4 KJV

We are admonished too by the Apostle Jude to steadfastly “contend for the faith”, guarding against the insidious machinations of those who would pervert the simplicity of Christ’s redemptive message with the promulgation of their devilish doctrines.

The Apostles were not afraid to contend with the heretics of their day and age, particularly the Apostle Paul. Not one to mince words and always one to name names, Paul is so zealous in his defense of the faith that he curses the sorcerer Elymas with blindness for seeking to lead others astray (Acts 13:8-12). This unflinching attitude toward the wolves within was the hallmark of the Apostles and early Church fathers. When confronted by the notorious heretic Marcion, Polycarp did not hesitate to denounce him in scathing terms (emphasis mine):

Polycarp himself replied to Marcion, who met him on one occasion, and said, “Dost thou know me?”

“I do know thee, the first-born of Satan.”

Such was the horror which the apostles and their disciples had against holding even verbal communication with any corrupters of the truth; as Paul also says, “A man that is an heretic, after the first and second admonition, reject; knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.”

— Irenaeus, Against Heresies, Book III

Irenaeus’ mentor exemplifies the uncompromising stance the true Church has against all who would seek to corrupt the purity of Christ’s doctrine.

For the advent of false teachers will inevitably herald the dissemination of another Jesus, another Spirit, and another Gospel — pale imitations that ensnare the unsuspecting and lead the unwitting astray from the path of Truth and righteousness.

 

— Marcion of Sinope (85-160AD), arch-heretic and Gnostic theologian.

 

Thus, guided by the eternal Wisdom of God, we are adjured to speak the truth in love, rejecting the siren song of false teachers and upholding the unassailable verities of the Gospel with unwavering conviction. I feel it necessary to reiterate I do this not from a place of animosity, but profound concern. I grew up being taught many of these same doctrines, these same supposedly revealed truths; but where man’s doctrines conflict with the clear words of Scripture, I must cling fast to that pure faith. Good men can disagree on the nature or timing of the Millenium, but we can not agree to disagree on the fundamental nature or audience of the Gospel.

It is for this reason that I am compelled to speak out against a theology that has done much damage to the cause of Christ; a theology that seeks to pervert the simplicity of the Gospel by reestablishing the barriers that Christ has broken down through His sacrifice (Ephesians 2:13-16); a theology that sees the resumption of animal sacrifice not as an abomination, but a boon. That theology goes by many names: Christian Zionism, Darbyism, Dual Covenant Theology, or Scofieldism.

It is perhaps best known as Dispensationalism.

Throughout the course of this series, we will survey the theological roots of this system, its place within the greater context of eschatology, and why dispensationalism truly is a “different gospel”. We will also explore the two men most responsible for its creation and promulgation, as well as their voluminous occult affinities: John Nelson Darby and Cyrus Ingerson Scofield. The rise of this ideology goes hand in hand with advent of political Zionism, and its impact upon the American church’s view of national Israel is inescapably linked to that rise. As we will also elucidate in this series, that was a very intentional objective.

 


“We define a cult as a religion which claims to be Christian while emptying Christianity of that which is essential to it. If Dispensationalism does this, then Dispensationalism is a cult and not a branch of the Christian church. It is as serious as that.

It is impossible to exaggerate the gravity of the situation.”

— John H. Gerstner, Wrongly Dividing the Word of Truth: A Critique of Dispensationalism


 

In the annals of Christian eschatology and interpretation, the Jesuit theologian Francisco Ribera stands as a towering figure whose theological innovation left an indelible mark on the landscape of Christian thought. Francisco Ribera is often credited with being one of the first theologians to introduce the idea of a future restoration of national Israel during the eschaton, thereby laying the intellectual groundwork for later dispensationalist and premillennialist interpretations. His stratagem was straightforward: refute the notion that the events described in Revelation had already occurred (the prevailing belief held by Christians), or that they were presently unfolding. Francisco Ribera’s principal endeavor entailed crafting a scholarly counterargument against the prevailing Protestant belief that the apocalypse prophesied in the Book of Revelation was unfolding in their contemporary era. Instead of the Catholic Church as the titular Whore of Babylon, Ribera boldly asserted that these events were destined to transpire in the far distant future.

In his lengthy opus, In Sacrum Beati Ioannis Apostoli, & Evangelistiae Apocalypsin Commentari, Ribera expounded upon the conditions preceding the end times. In it, he stipulates that the end of days could only manifest upon the reconstruction of Solomon’s Temple alongside the inferred return of the Jews to their homeland. Ribera’s treatise stands as a scholarly bulwark, fortifying the theological positions of the Catholic Church while repudiating the prevailing Protestant eschatological interpretations. Thus, Ribera’s seminal treatise unveiled a novel narrative wherein the signs of the eschaton would only unfold against the backdrop of a resurgent Israel — a narrative that would later find fertile ground in the now burgeoning theology of dispensationalism.

 

Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse (1887), ill. by Viktor Vasnetsov.

 

Before exploring the history of dispensationalism, it is important to fully quantify the manner in which this system differs from historic Christian teachings on both the millennial Kingdom of Christ and the nature of the Ekklesia. A more thorough examination of these doctrines will be given in a future entry, but it is important nonetheless to enumerate their general beliefs from the outset:

  1. Consistent, literal interpretation of the Bible.
    • The Bible should be taken literally in ALL cases unless the context clearly indicates otherwise. This is especially true for prophecy, where God’s promises to national Israel and His plans for the future are to be understood as straightforward declarations of His intentions.
    • The Old Testament should be used to interpret the New.
  2. Sharp distinctions are made between faithful Israel and the Ekklesia (Matthew 16:18).
    • God has distinct promises and purposes for both national Israel and the Church. While national Israel’s promises are primarily earthly and national, the Church’s promises are heavenly and spiritual.
    • The Church Age is therefore a “parenthesis” in God’s plan.
  3. History is divided into an arbitrary number of distinctions, called dispensations, in which God fundamentally alters the manner in which He interacts with humanity.
    • Scofield’s notes lay out 7 dispensations starting at Creation and ending with the Kingdom, though the precise number is heavily disputed amongst adherents of this theology.
  4. Salvation was obtained through the Law under the Mosaic Covenant.

    As a dispensation, grace begins with the death and resurrection of Christ. The point of testing is no longer legal obedience as the condition of salvation…

    — The Scofield Reference Bible

  5. There are different gospels for different peoples, with anywhere from two to five different gospels.
  6. The Abrahamic Covenant is fulfilled through the physical Israel.
  7. Restoration of national Israel and the rebuilding of the Third Temple will precede the Last Days.
    • Often, but not always, this is accompanied with a resuming of the Levitical animal sacrifices.
  8. Literal, 7-year “Great Tribulation” will unfold with a singular Antichrist ruling from the rebuilt Temple of Solomon in Jerusalem.
    • This will be preceded by a “secret rapture” of the Church.
    • National Israel will be mercilessly persecuted since the Church does not exist on Earth anymore.

Now indeed, as we peer back into the record of Christian theological history, we can assuredly discern faint echoes of premillennial anticipation amidst the writings of the early Church fathers. The belief in an Earthly millennial reign is where the similarities between the systems end however. Alan P. Boyd, himself a dispensationalist, penned the seminal thesis on the key distinctions between historic premillennialism and dispensationalism (emphasis mine):

Dr. [Charles] Ryrie’s statement [that dispensationalism was the view of the early church fathers] is historically invalid within the chronological framework of this thesis. The reasons for this conclusion are as follows:

1). the writers/writings surveyed did not generally adopt a consistently applied literal interpretation; 2). they did not generally distinguish between the Church and Israel; 3). there is no evidence that they generally held to a dispensational view of revealed history; 4). although Papias and Justin Martyr did believe in a Millennial kingdom, the 1,000 years is the only basic similarity with the modern system (in fact, they and dispensational pre-millennialism radically differ on the basis of the Millennium); 5). they had no concept of imminency or a pre-tribulational rapture of the Church; 6). in general, their eschatological chronology is not synonymous with that of the modern system.

Indeed, this thesis would conclude that the eschatological beliefs of the period studied would be generally inimical to those of the modern system (perhaps, seminal amillennialism, and not nascent dispensational pre-millennialism ought to be seen in the eschatology of the period).

— Alan P. Boyd, A Dispensational Premillennial Analysis Of The Eschatology Of The Post-Apostolic Fathers (Until The Death Of Justin Martyr)

From the pen of Justin Martyr to the pensées of Irenaeus, a small but notable segment amongst early Church fathers espoused the belief in a future reign of Christ upon the Earth. But as Mr. Boyd has noted, their eschatologies bore marked distinctions from that of dispensationalism. Therefore, the oft-repeated claim by dispensationalist theologians that their eschatology is the historic view of the church fathers simply holds no water.

Unlike the doctrinal edifice erected by Ribera and his intellectual progeny, these ancient theologians did not carve sharp delineations between the Ekklesia and Israel, nor did they envisage the reconstruction of a third temple upon the grounds of earthly Zion. Instead, their visions of the end times were imbued with a harmonious marriage of Christ’s Church and His New Covenant, wherein the Mosaic law found its fulfillment in the crucible of Christ’s redemptive mission (Matthew 5:17, Hebrews 8). Thus, while the seeds of premillennialism may have been sown in early Christian thought, the theological construct erected by Ribera and his successors stands as a distinctive aberration in Christian eschatology.

 


“What the Plymouth Brethren have done in country towns no one but those who are intimate with the life of country churches can tell. There is no Congregational minister, either Baptist or Independent, who is not ready to denounce them as the greatest troublers of the peace of Israel since the days of Ahab.

Much in these days is said about the Jesuits, but the Plymouth Brethren will compare with them, both in respect to stealthy SLYNESS and persistent effort to make converts.”

— James Grant, The Plymouth Brethren: Their History & Heresies


 

Amidst the tumultuous currents of religious fervor brewing in the 1800’s, the Plymouth Brethren emerge as a formidable force under the leadership of John Nelson Darby. Wielding their distinctive brand of theological innovation like a double-edged sword, they cleaved through the fabric of traditional orthodoxy with audacious zeal. Their backers and benefactors included many within the British aristocracy (emphasis mine):

The Brethren never had more than a few hundred members at any time, although two of them later became well known: Sir Robert Anderson, the head of Criminal Investigations for Scotland Yard and the man who ran the notoriously ineffectual Jack the Ripper investigation; and Aleister Crowley, a devout child who became the world’s most famous Satanist. Darby’s impact was not based on the numbers of his immediate followers, but on the widespread influence of his evangelical tours throughout Europe and America, his books, and especially, the sponsorship of the highest levels of the English aristocracy.

— Mike Minnicino, Darby Made ‘Christian Zionism’ for the Empire

At the heart of this doctrinal labyrinth lies the charismatic firebrand Darby, a man whose theological acumen and rhetorical prowess served as the lodestar guiding this budding denomination. Yet, as we peel back the layers of their theological tapestry, we are confronted with a stark tableau of doctrinal deviation.

Central to the theological architecture of the Plymouth Brethren is Darby’s novel invention of dispensationalism — a hermeneutical framework that partitions the history of salvation into distinct epochs. These eras, or “dispensations”, are characterized by their own unique set of divine mandates. Yet, beneath this veneer of theological sophistication lies a pernicious seed of division; sowing discord within the body of Christ by erecting artificial barriers between the Church and faithful Israel. In Darby’s eschatological schema, the Church and Israel occupy separate spheres of divine favor, each with its own covenantal destiny and eschatological trajectory — a notion that flies in the face of historic Christian orthodoxy and the clear teachings of Scripture.

In 1856, Darby’s self-professed prophetic insights warned him that Russia was the nefarious embodiment of the anti-Christ: Magog made new. Amidst the swirling currents of international intrigue that decade, Darby also beheld the unfolding drama of the American Civil War as a portentous sign of the “End Times”, a prophetic harbinger of apocalyptic doom. In a stunning display of theological audacity, Darby counseled his American disciples to abstain from the fray, cautioning them against the futile pursuit of earthly alliances in a world careening towards cataclysm. For Darby, the path to salvation lay not in the tumultuous arena of Earthly conflict, but rather in the serene repose of celestial anticipation. Then, as now, headlines drove hermeneutics.

The failed predictions of Darby have only been compounded by his proselytes in subsequent generations.

 

— John Nelson Darby (1800-1882).

 

Like Marcion before him, Darby also crafted his own version of the Bible for promulgation amongst his followers. The doctrinal pollution in it is staggering, and therefore, a proper exploration and refutation of its errors is outside the scope of this series. Yet, one of the changes made to the text is particularly alarming and worthy of notation. The King James Version renders John 6:69 as so (emphasis mine):

And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.

Darby’s translation instead replaces the title the Son of the living God with this one (emphasis mine):

and we have believed and known that thou art the holy one of God.

That title, the Holy One of God, is never used by the Apostles or Christ. It used by the demons however (emphasis mine):

Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art; the Holy One of God.

The Gospel of Luke 4:34 KJV

This title is used only twice in the KJV to refer to Christ, and both times it is exclusively used by demons!

John Nelson Darby was a prolific writer and commentator, not only penning his own Bible translation but also authoring over 50 books and numerous treatises during his lifetime. While Darby has often been accused of being a Freemason, he denies these charges in his writings (emphasis mine):

“the wisdom of God in a mystery,” which word means what only the initiated understand: as in Freemasonry, I do not know anything about it because I am not initiated.

— John N. Darby, Deliverance from the Law of Sin

Yet, for one who is supposedly ignorant of Masonry’s ways, he seems to know a great deal about the inner workings of the lodges (emphasis mine):

Supposing we were a body of Freemasons, and a person were excluded from one lodge by the rules of the order, and instead of looking to the lodge to review the case, if it was thought to be unjust, each other lodge were to receive him or not on their own independent authority, it is clear the unity of the Freemason system is gone. Each lodge is an independent body acting for itself…

— John N. Darby, On Ecclesiastical Independency

For a man supposedly unacquainted with Freemasonry, it seems extraordinarily odd to compare the workings of the local church to a Masonic lodge.

Equally alarming is Darby’s repeated, methodical, and prolific usage of occult & Gnostic terms in his writings. Take for instance his usage of the term The Absolute to describe the Almighty (emphasis mine):

The essential being of Godhead cannot change, as is evident – the Absolute, as men speak

— John N. Darby, The Humiliation of Christ

That term, The Absolute, is one used quite prolifically in Theosophical and occultic literature (emphasis mine):

The Absolute:  An Omnipresent, Eternal, Boundless, and Immutable PRINCIPLE…

— H.P. Blavatsky, The Secret Doctrine

Additionally, Darby repeatedly used the title the Architect to refer to the LORD (emphasis mine):

It is life; that is, Christ, as having, as Son, life in and from the life of the living God, life divine, life in Himself (proved in resurrection), which is the foundation and security of the assembly built by the heavenly Architect…

— John N. Darby, The House of God; the Body of Christ; and the Baptism of the Holy Ghost

We see God in nature that is true, but all this knowledge does not lead man to God. Man has spoilt all. The traces of God, of the Architect, are there; but it is a ruin.

— John N. Darby, Christ, the Faithful Witness

The Architect, also known as the Great Architect, is a Masonic title for their god that can not be found in Scripture whatsoever.

The above are hardly the only occult dog-whistles used by Darby in his writings. His lengthy occult lexicon includes, but is not limited to:

  • The Consummation of the Ages
  • Divine Being
  • Divine Doctrine
  • Divine Essence
  • Divine Energy
  • Divine Intelligence
  • Divine Principle
  • Energy of Faith
  • Energy of Love
  • Universal Truth
  • Universal Principle
  • Vital Force
  • Vital Principle
  • Vital Energy
  • Lord of Love
  • The Coming One, a Gnostic euphemism for the alleged future Antichrist

You will find none of these terms in the Holy Bible, but you will find them in Gnostic literature. Now it is true that Madame Blavatsky would publish her seminal work, The Secret Doctrine, years after Darby’s death. However, Theosophy is merely a modernistic repackaging of ancient Gnostic beliefs and teachings. Thusly, his usage of these terms is even more damning due to their strictly Gnostic origins at the time of Darby’s writings.

While Darby can disingenuously feign ignorance of Masonry’s inner workings, he is rather obviously quite familiar with the Mystery religion’s terminology and literature.

 


“Her princes in the midst thereof are like wolves ravening the prey, to shed blood, and to destroy SOULS, to get dishonest gain.”

— Ezekiel 22:27 KJV


 

As we peer back into the historical record of Christian discourse, the forerunner of premillennial dispensationalism is unmistakably seen in the writings of Jesuit theologian Francisco Ribera. Carried forward by Darby and his Plymouth Brethren, this novel theological paradigm has undoubtedly engendered a dangerous complacency amongst believers, one that fosters an escapist mentality. This apocalyptic theology fixates upon the “imminent” rapture and the cataclysmic tribulation to come, withdrawing in the face of today’s confrontations.

Dispensationalism, by its very nature, is a modernist theology within the legacy of Christian thought. Its novelty is not what troubles me however. With its partitioning of salvation history into discrete epochs, and its artificial delineation between faithful Israel and the Ekklesia, this doctrine stands as a testament to the theological chasm that has attempted to cleave asunder the body of Christ. Once the full account of this theology is taken in, it becomes impossible to not discern the unmistakable signs of a heresy now fully formed.

The eschatological fatalism bred by dispensationalism leads to spiritual lethargy and moral indifference. Vast swathes of believers have been lulled into a false sense of security, mentally insulated from the harsh realities of a world groaning under the weight of sin. Rather than engaging with the pressing social, moral, and ethical challenges of the day, Darby and the disciples of his doctrine retreat into the cloistered confines of their eschatological enclave. They are more than content to await the apocalyptic denouement from the comfort of their theological ivory tower.

This is even doubly compounded by the largely slavish devotion to the physical nation of Israel, an infatuation that is frankly nothing short of idolatry in many evangelical circles. Gross atrocities are being waged right now on the American dime, and airmen are self-immolating on the lawn of the Israeli embassy rather than participate in the American aided genocide of Gaza. All the while, far too many followers of the Prince of Peace excuse these crimes due to a mistaken belief that the physical seed of Israel is somehow imbued with God’s blessing; this despite being in open rebellion against His Son for nearly 2,000 years.

As we peel back centuries of theological obfuscation, we have yet to even encounter the still enigmatic figure of Cyrus I. Scofield. It is this man’s life and legacy that hold the keys to unlocking the mysteries surrounding the rise of dispensationalism. In the ensuing chapters of this series, we shall delve even deeper into the tangled web of deception woven these last two centuries. For how influential Scofield’s ideology has become, his life has largely been obscured from the public view. It is far past time that the piercing light of truth be unleashed upon the shadowy figures and occult influences that lurk behind the veil of dispensational theology.

In the annals of Christendom, heretical tendrils have long sought to entwine and choke out the pure vine of Gospel truth.

Vociferously defending those unchanging doctrinal truths is not a preference — it is our duty.

Continued in Part II…

 

The Wolves Within I, digital art, 2023.

 


“Think what it means that an elaborate, ramified and comprehensive system, which embraces radical teachings concerning such vital subjects as the preaching and ministry of Jesus Christ, the character and “dispensational place” of the four Gospels, the nature and era of the Kingdom of God, the Sermon on the Mount, the Gospel of the Kingdom, and other Bible topics of first importance, a system of doctrine that contradicts what has been held and taught by every Christian expositor and every minister of Christ from the very beginning of the Christian era, should have suddenly made its appearance in the latter part of the nineteenth century, and have been accepted by many who are prominent amongst the most professedly orthodox groups of Christians!

It is an amazing phenomenon indeed.”

— Philip Mauro, The Gospel of the Kingdom


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The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
February 27, 2024 11:46 am

LOL! Pizz off!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  The Central Scrutinizer
February 27, 2024 11:50 am

I figured you’d post the first comment, you pathetic Zionist sock puppet.

Anonymous
Anonymous
February 27, 2024 12:09 pm

how I feel when christians argue about heretics

anonymous
anonymous
  Anonymous
February 27, 2024 1:32 pm

Exceptional point. We should be spending much more time sharing THE GOSPEL. I mean, that is that message that matters most. Right?

k31
k31
  anonymous
February 27, 2024 1:49 pm

So, begin.

anonymous
anonymous
  k31
February 27, 2024 2:01 pm

1 Corinthians 15:1-4

Anonymous
Anonymous
  anonymous
February 27, 2024 6:53 pm

1st Corinthians 15:1-4 is the only Gospel that saves someone in the current Dispensation of Grace in which we are now living.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
February 27, 2024 11:07 pm

mark
mark
  Anonymous
February 28, 2024 10:51 am

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Voltara
Voltara
  anonymous
February 27, 2024 9:11 pm

Ffs that’s not in the gospels and its got nothing to do with Jesus’ teaching

anonymous
anonymous
  GrungeVet aka ScipioEruditus
February 27, 2024 4:06 pm

Jewish people can argue all they want. Jesus Christ was THE GAME CHANGER for humanity. He did not die JUST for gentiles. He died for all mankind. Debating this issue is of no value. The New Testament makes this point clear.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  anonymous
February 27, 2024 4:20 pm

There is no ‘mankind’.

anonymous
anonymous
  Anonymous
February 27, 2024 4:32 pm

You are being difficult for no reason. There are bigger issues to be concerned with. Let’s stop being silly.

Herc
Herc
  Anonymous
February 27, 2024 6:34 pm

Ah yes forgot now you calls “personkind”

Don’t want to upset the women out there. 🥸

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Anonymous
  anonymous
February 27, 2024 11:08 pm

mark
mark
  Anonymous
February 28, 2024 10:51 am

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Anonymous
Anonymous
  anonymous
February 27, 2024 11:12 pm

BS. Jesus was just a rehash of other previous savior gods. The psyop is so successful in fooling the dumb masses that it has been repeated throughout history many times over.

The bone is already biting the dog
The bone is already biting the dog
  anonymous
February 28, 2024 9:58 am

I have just one word for you; Sumerians!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  anonymous
February 27, 2024 3:53 pm

No, I meant it’s a bunch of people arguing about who is the worst little abraham.
The only way out is to reject ’em all.
judea delenda est

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  anonymous
February 27, 2024 11:06 pm

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  Anonymous
February 28, 2024 10:52 am

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grace country pastor
grace country pastor
February 27, 2024 12:37 pm

I don’t study Darby or Scofield, I study scripture and scripture is dispensational. Period.

Ephesians 3:1-7 KJB… “For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles, If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward: How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel: Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power.”

The devil too is dispensational.

The Devil is Dispensational

Peter and Paul preached different gospel messages to different groups of people at different times. Any serious student of scripture can see these things clearly.

List: Differences Between Peter and Paul’s Message

Peter preached that which was spoken since the world began.

Acts 3:19-21 KJB… “Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

Paul preached that body of information kept secret since the world began.

Romans 16:25-27 KJB… “Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, BUT NOW is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith: To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen.”

That (prophecy) which was spoken is different than that (mystery) which was kept secret. Things that are different cannot be the same.

1 Corinthians 2:7-8 KJB… “But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.”

anonymous
anonymous
  grace country pastor
February 27, 2024 1:27 pm

Thanks for weighing in. One Question. You do adhere to the view that God is NOT DONE with Israel. The Book of Zechariah deals with this at length. Also. Book of Revelation. Also, I believe there is a verse (or two) in the Book of Acts that discussed Israel returning to their land (for a third time). I’d be interested in your thoughts regarding God’s future intent for Israel. Thanks

anonymous
anonymous
  anonymous
February 27, 2024 1:30 pm

Sorry. Should have said …. “Do you adhere … ?’

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  anonymous
February 27, 2024 1:56 pm

Since I define myself as a “mid-Acts Pauline dispensationalist”, I’ll let my apostle do the talking. They = Israel; stumbled, fallen, diminished.

Romans 11:11-15 KJB… “I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness? For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office: If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them. For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?

God is far from finished with Israel. How much more their fullness? Life from the dead! They will be resurrected to show the world Gods glory! Israel’s prophet Ezekiel tells of this future occurrence, when the new covenant promised to them is in full effect!

Ezekiel 36:22-28 KJB… “Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name’s sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went. And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes. For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land. (This did not occur in 1948!!!) Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them. (The new covenant!) And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.

The prophesy will be fulfilled; that Israel will be the channel of blessing from God to the Gentile world. Clearly, this is not happening today… even more clearly, we are not living in “thy Kingdom come” on earth as it is in heaven. Sorry preterists.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  grace country pastor
February 27, 2024 11:13 pm

mark
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  Anonymous
February 28, 2024 10:52 am

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The bone is already biting the dog
The bone is already biting the dog
  anonymous
February 28, 2024 10:01 am

God or Demiurge? Choose the best name for Vengeful.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  GrungeVet aka ScipioEruditus
February 27, 2024 2:00 pm

Jesus is my Lord and Savior. He took my place on the cross when I didn’t deserve it. He is my Head, the Head of the church which is His body. As a Gentile “heathen”, I was never promised a Messiah.

anonymous
anonymous
  grace country pastor
February 27, 2024 2:11 pm

I shudder to think how many times God could/should have ‘perished’ me. Always deservedly so. And yet, He remained patient. The thought leaves me speechless … so to speak.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  GrungeVet aka ScipioEruditus
February 27, 2024 3:34 pm

God has had mercy on my soul. Jesus the Christ died the death I deserved to die and He rose again for my justification.

The word Messiah appears only twice in scripture. Paul never used the word and I have never shied away from calling Him “the Christ”. I say again, no Gentile was ever promised a Messiah or a National King.

Daniel 9:25-26 KJB… “Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.”

You may call me whatever names you like if that makes you feel superior. Obviously, you cannot argue scripture reasonably and that’s a shame. Just make sure you never call yourself a Bible believer.

flash
flash
  grace country pastor
February 27, 2024 3:37 pm

None so blind as the self-decieved..

Messiah comes from the Hebrew word mashiach and means “anointed one” or “chosen one.” The Greek equivalent is the word Christos or, in English, Christ. The name “Jesus Christ” is the same as “Jesus the Messiah.” In biblical times, anointing someone with oil was a sign that God was consecrating or setting apart that person for a particular role. Thus, an “anointed one” was someone with a special, God-ordained purpose.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  flash
February 27, 2024 11:15 pm

mark
mark
  Anonymous
February 28, 2024 10:52 am

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Anonymous
Anonymous
  grace country pastor
February 27, 2024 11:14 pm

Jesus is just an idea in your brainwashed mind.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  GrungeVet aka ScipioEruditus
February 27, 2024 4:04 pm

messiahs are for semites. Literally.

k31
k31
  grace country pastor
February 27, 2024 1:49 pm

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grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  k31
February 27, 2024 2:02 pm

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Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  grace country pastor
February 27, 2024 2:58 pm

You split scripture up to suit your beliefs instead of reading in context.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Mary Christine
February 27, 2024 3:14 pm

I simply read and believe the words on the page. For example, Paul writes:

Romans 11:13 KJB… “For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:”

And:

1 Corinthians 11:1 KJB… “Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.”

Biblically then, as Gentiles, who should we be following?

flash
flash
  grace country pastor
February 27, 2024 3:41 pm

You’re not intelligent nor educated enough to interpret scripture. You should find a solid traditional i.e Orthodox Church to set you on a lighted path towards redemption.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  flash
February 27, 2024 3:49 pm

Scripture isn’t for me to interpret, nor anyone else for that matter. It’s there to either believe or not.

2 Peter 1:20-21 KJB… “Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.”

I choose to believe.

flash
flash
  grace country pastor
February 27, 2024 5:01 pm

Lol…you’re literally interpreting scripture to propagate the heresy of two gospel…smh

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  flash
February 28, 2024 9:32 am

Let’s see if flash can count.

Galatians 2:7-8 KJB… “But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter; (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles:)”

Hmmm… 🤔

Gospel of the circumcision. That’s one!
Gospel of the uncircumcision. That’s two, right there in verse 7! There’s a gospel of Abraham in chapter 3 verse 8!

Circumcision is different than uncircumcision. Peter wrought effectually to the first group, Paul to the second. I don’t expect you to see or believe that even though that’s clearly what the words say. You would rather believe men in robes who tell you what scripture means, than have the courage to face it for yourself.

Hebrews 4:12 KJB… “For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.”

Scripture reads you. You don’t like what it sees. I don’t blame you.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  grace country pastor
February 27, 2024 11:13 pm

mark
mark
  Anonymous
February 28, 2024 10:53 am

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flash
flash
February 27, 2024 1:05 pm

The problem with Protestantism is it’s in a constant state of “reformation” i.e. flux . In fact, it’s becomes so ” reformed” by Protestant feelz that it would not even be recognizable by the early Christians as a church of Christ .

Jay Dyer, who began his faith as a Protestant, then moved on to Catholicism , and now after decades of study has settled into Orthodoxy has loads ot say on this subject and IMHO well worth the time invested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHFO_ltUH-U. ”

anonymous
anonymous
  flash
February 27, 2024 1:19 pm

Perhaps if we all STUDIED the Bible every day, we would refer to ourselves as BIBLICAL CHRISTIANS and stop believing in the views of ‘ordinary’ men.

flash
flash
  anonymous
February 27, 2024 3:54 pm

Bubba …you barely understand a television plot written for 5th graders, but your quite capable of unraveling the hidden meaning in text written thousands of years ago in various dead languages.
One can only benefit from guidance by a well read polymath and biblical scholar.
Don’t be afraid to admit your are an ignorant tard and seek guidance in understanding biblical text.

Here’ three of my favorite sources… Two are Protestant and one is Orthodox . Don’t be too proud or stupid to learn from ” ordinary men”

https://inspiringphilosophy.org/

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5qDet6sa6rODi7t6wfpg8g

https://www.youtube.com/@DRMSH

https://drmsh.com/

https://www.youtube.com/@JayDyer

flash
flash
  flash
February 27, 2024 3:54 pm
anonymous
anonymous
  flash
February 27, 2024 4:09 pm

You have so much HATE/RAGE inside you screaming to get out. I feel sorry for you. And I will pray that God helps liberate you from it.

flash
flash
  anonymous
February 27, 2024 5:06 pm

Lol … you don’t even know what HATE/RAGE is tard . When have I called for or acted in a violent manner against anyone. FedBot much ?

anonymous
anonymous
  flash
February 27, 2024 5:18 pm

Christians don’t talk to each other using the language you do. They don’t. James 3:1-12. All the best to you.

flash
flash
  anonymous
February 27, 2024 6:55 pm

Christians don’t use common English to communicate with “real” Christians …are these same “Christians that condemn other Christians like Catholics and Orthodox to an eternity in hell merely because they’re not a member of their particular Protestant cult ?

BTW jackass…I’m neither a teacher nor boaster…got anymore unrelated scripture you care to share ?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  flash
February 27, 2024 11:17 pm

mark
mark
  Anonymous
February 28, 2024 10:53 am

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anonymous
anonymous
  flash
February 27, 2024 1:29 pm

WHY? Are his opinions based EXCLUSIVELY on Biblical scripture?

k31
k31
  flash
February 27, 2024 1:53 pm

Confessional Lutherans haven’t changed anything.

mark
mark
February 27, 2024 1:59 pm

Amazingly, The Vast Majority Of “Modern” Prophecy Books And Teachings Have Their Foundation Based On The Corrupt Revised Version Bible (RV of 1885), And Most King James Bible Believing Christians Aren’t Even Aware Of It! By Dave Watchman

https://www.prophecycountdown.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/The-Truth-of-Daniel-9-27-1.pdf

anonymous
anonymous
  mark
February 27, 2024 2:08 pm

We do live in a time when ignorance (of all things) should be considerably lower. How is it that so many Christians have no idea who Westcott and Hort were. And, what they stood for? Very disappointing. Keep fighting the good fight !

mark
mark
  anonymous
February 27, 2024 2:19 pm

Thanks Buddy,

I have invited the author of the PDF above and this one to jump in…I don’t know if he will…we have e-mailed one another a few times. We are in agreement in many areas.

The 70th Week Of Daniel 9 Decoded Summary

https://70thweekofdaniel.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/The-70th-Week-Of-Daniel-9-Decoded-One-Pager-110621.pdf

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Anonymous
Anonymous
  mark
February 27, 2024 4:01 pm

smh…

Why an Obsession with Eschatology is a Waste of Time, Part 1

Eschatology Series

mark
mark
  Anonymous
February 27, 2024 6:53 pm

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smh…smh…smh…smh…smh…smh…smh…smh…

“Michael Heiser misses a tremendous opportunity to ecncourge readers to actually do the hard work of connecting the PUZZLE PIECES.”

THE NUMEROUS CONCERNS ON WHAT MICHAEL HEISER TEACHES
https://www.thebereancall.org/content/numerous-concerns-what-michael-heiser-teaches?

http://www.letusreason.org/Popteach129.htm

gods OR GOD – ARE THERE MISSING TRIUNE EXPLANATIONS IN THE OLD TESTIMENT

http://www.letusreason.org/Popteach130.htm

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A RESPONSE TO MICHAEL HEISER: “YES THE BIBLE IS ABOUT JESUS!”

“Everything in the Bible isn’t about Jesus.” That’s the thesis of Michael Heiser’s piece at Logos Talk. As examples, he argues that the “procedures for diagnosing and treating leprosy” and the laws “forbidding people who’ve had sex or lost blood from entering sacred space” aren’t about Jesus.” He goes so far as to make the bold assertion that “No Israelite would have thought of a messianic deliverer when reading these or many other passages.” Heiser concludes his essay with his central concern that “While the drama of the biblical epic ultimately leads to Jesus, he isn’t the ultimate focal point of every passage.”

It appears to me that Heiser is particularly concerned about developing a hermeneutic that leaves the interpreter off the hook when it comes to studying the Bible or to make connections to Jesus that simply aren’t there.

I appreciate Heiser’s motivations but believe that his approach is misguided and ultimately can do greater damage to Bible interpreters everywhere. I would begin by stating that Heiser’s approach to the topic is fairly minimalistic. He asserts that unless the New Testament alludes to Old Testament presenting Jesus as the messianic deliver and fulfillment, therefore, Jesus must not be read into such ancient texts.

This minimalistic approach actually discourages the reader and forces them to put boundaries in the text that do not exist. But the Holy Spirit is a creative God who moves and lives in the narratives of the Bible and who offers a rich array of harmonious themes throughout. Themes of marriage, war, sea, dry land, and creatures are already presented to us in the early chapters of the Bible to prepare us for all its luxurious repetitions throughout the rest of the Bible. Indeed the Word himself appears in the creation narrative which leads to the question: “How can the One in whom all things cohere not be found in some manner in the stories, laws, and descriptions of the Bible?”

Heiser seems to be looking for an explicit messianic formula. But nowhere does the Bible say that unless such a formula exists, Jesus cannot be seen or prophesied in the Old Testament. Rather, the pattern is more maximalist in nature. There is an inherent pattern in the text that enables the interpreter to connect various Bible passages and themes and to place Messiah Jesus at the center of it all.

The Apostle John makes this explicit when he chastises the religious leaders for not seeing Jesus in their Old Testament texts: “These are the very scriptures that point to me (bear witness about me).” The famous discourse in Luke 24 seals this case in a fairly comprehensive fashion:

He said to them, “This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms.”

Heiser’s point is invalid mainly because the Bible is inspired and Spirit-breathed to detail this inevitability of a Jesus-saturated text. It is somewhat shocking that Heiser, a man of great scholarship, would miss the rich symbolic world of the Bible; that instead of searching for more fruit in the Garden of the Bible, he would advocate limiting the harvest. It is true that interpreters may find details in the text that are not obvious or that may be clearly wrong, but time and further studies will make clear such misinterpretations.

I would also argue that the task of seeing Jesus in all of Scripture is a task that can only bear good fruit. Heiser sees this as a “desire to be clever.”

But what does cleverness have to do with seeing Jesus in the sacred furniture or in lesser-known biblical stories?

It seems to me that the reader is actually encouraged to adore Jesus more if he sees Jesus all throughout Judges. For instance, how can Heiser not connect the events of Judges with the clear antithesis established in Genesis 1:26? How can he not see the period of the Judges as an unfolding drama of the great war that began in the Garden and continues to the end of history? How can Heiser not see the theme of crushing in Judges when Ehud kills Eglon, a political head or when Jael crushes Sisera’s head with a tent peg or when Gideon destroys the four political heads Zebah, Zalmunna, Oreb, and Zeeb or when Abimelech’s head is crushed by a rock, again by a woman or when Samson destroys all five heads of the Philistine cities, by crushing them with rocks?a

It is also disconcerting that Heiser would use the procedures for diagnosing and treating leprosy as an example where Christ is not found. Has he ever considered that Jesus does precisely that when he inspects the temple? That Jesus is looking for uncleanness and that Jesus is the ultimate Judge who diagnoses the Temple and finds it worthy of destruction (Mat.23-24)?

MICHAEL HEISER MISSES A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY TO ENCOURAGE READERS TO ACTUALLY DO THE HARD WORK OF CONNECTING THE PUZZLE PIECES.

Rather, he chooses to see portions of the Bible not directly connected or interested to address the central Character who happens to be the Author and the Word made flesh; the One who harmonizes history because he is the very center of history.
Everything in the Bible is about Jesus and Jesus is everything.

(But after all smh…why bother is all soooooo explained…why try…just listen to a No Name poster who points to man who had all the answeres…WHY? WHY? WHY even try???

mark
mark
  mark
February 27, 2024 7:24 pm

But…always remember the Calvary CROSS K.I.S.S. principle…

Jesus and the Cross (really your cross)…all your sins upon Him…in your place…it’s a free gift…accept Him for taking your deserved punishment or reject Him for doing it and take what you deserve.

Everything else is window dressing…yada…yada…yada…

Live forever in Heaven with Him or live forever separated from Him in Hell.

Bada Bing…Bada Boom…

flash
flash
  mark
February 27, 2024 8:24 pm

First of all, the post came off as anonymous because I forgot to type in my handle. Second, I’ve listened to many Heiser talks and have heard him identify Jesus in many OT text and thirdly, if you don’t think Psalms 82 is about the Most High creating other god to rule nation, the removing the after they corrupted the people, then maybe your comprehension skills need a little 3in1.
Regardless, believe what you want to believe . I’m done with this nitpicking, petty bullshit.

mark
mark
  flash
February 27, 2024 9:05 pm

I put the amendment in you answered as an afterthought…no matter who I thought was behind the post to keep the main thing the main thing.

That said, I countered the Why…Why…Why…smh…to not even bother to search God’s word for yourself…not just because it counters what I put up about the subtle yet massive hinge verse changes in Daniel 9:27 (with so much evidence behind it) has wrought…but because it also supports the thesis of this outstanding thread.

I have no doubt I am not as steeped in Heiser as you are…but I don’t think what I posted is nitpicking petty bullshit by any stretch of the imagination…I think the changes in Daniel 9:27 opened the door to massive modern day deception.

I will always believe what I want to believe as I’m sure you will as well.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  mark
February 27, 2024 11:18 pm

mark
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  Anonymous
February 28, 2024 10:54 am

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Mary Christine
Mary Christine
February 27, 2024 2:58 pm

I’m going to have to read your booklet later. I have a book that I haven’t read yet but my husband did. I asked him what he thought of Scofield after he read it. He said Scofield was a lying sack.

https://chalcedon.edu/resources/books/the-incredible-scofield-and-his-book

Voltara
Voltara
February 27, 2024 9:06 pm

If there was any mention of Jesus’ teaching in all that I missed it.

Paul is the great heretic. He subverted the teaching and ran off the true followers.

FrankT
FrankT
February 27, 2024 10:06 pm

Whore or harlot references Israel. Babylon is the source of the Talmud. The Whore of Babylon is Talmudic jewery, the synagogue of satan, and the Great City where they killed the Lord.

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
February 27, 2024 10:20 pm

Another interesting article. I always thought by Mary anointing Jesus and the Roman soldiers crowning Him was the beginning of the new covenant for both Jews and gentiles to bring all people under Christ’s sovereignty.

I’d love to read an article about your thoughts of Melchizedek and the book of Hebrews considering Melchizedek was the King-Priest of Salem before God made a covenant with Abraham. Meaning he had a plan before he created the covenant and Abraham tithed to Melchizedek. The Zionists completely ignore that Salem was already established before He led the Israelites to the promise land.

As a side, note because I was just reading Proverbs recently, what are your thoughts on Lady Wisdom at the beginning of creation? Is it possible Lady Wisdom was Mary in human flesh? How else did Jesus know who He was God in human form considering we are born ignorant and he didn’t grow up with the Holy Spirit? For Lady Wisdom to be present at the moment of creation there’s very little mentioned about her in the Bible.

Btw, I have no insights about any of these questions I just find them to be interesting mysteries.

Anonymous
Anonymous
February 27, 2024 11:05 pm

mark
mark
  Anonymous
February 28, 2024 11:05 am

It is much safer when you fail to do the Do’s than choose to do the Don’ts. People, out of ignorance mock God, a Sovereign Supreme Being. They do it with an excuse that they do not believe in His existence.

Well, if you do not believe in Him then keep off.

God exists and is immortal. The evidence of His existence is in the Holy Scriptures: Romans 1: 20.

God has left no human being without evidence of His existence.

What does such supremacy require of us inferior beings? In His eyes, the whole world is like a drop in a bucket, less than nothing: Isaiah 40:15-17.

From us God requires honor, respect adoration, and all praise; if this is unfit for you, then DO NOT MOCK GOD. Galatians 6:7 warns.

Are there people who mocked God? What happened to them?

Here is a list of some famous people who deemed themselves smarter than the Creator, and attempted to mock Him, but met premature deaths.

1. John Lennon

John Lennon was an English singer, songwriter, and musician. He gained fame worldwide, as the ‘the Beatles’ band founder.

In an interview, John bragged that ‘the Beatles’ was more popular than Jesus. He even bragged that, “Christianity will go, It will vanish and shrink”.

Little did he know his end and disappearance was close at hand. Not long, he was shot six times by one of his fanatics and died on the spot.

2. Tancredo Nevas

Nevas was a Brazilian politician, lawyer and an entrepreneur. In 1985, he was elected president of the republic.

Nevas had said during presidential campaign that if he got 500000 votes, not even God would remove him from presidency. Surely Nevas won the election, but he died a day before taking office.

3. Agenor de Miranda Araujo Neto

Agenor de Miranda was a Brazilian singer and songwriter better known as Cazuza. His fame started in Brazil after he became the lead singer of the rock band ‘Barao Vermelho’.

He is known to have recorded huge radio hits. Cazuza, while smoking cigarettes, puffed out smoke and said, “God, that’s for you.” Not long did he horribly die of lung cancer.
4. Captain Edward John Smith

Foster, survived the Titanic ship tragedy. This is what he stated in an article; Someone in the ship heard the captain say, “Even God himself couldn’t sink this ship.”

The captain obviously wanted to give an assurance of how safe ferrying in the ship was. It is said that the ship hit an iceberg, leading to its miserable sinking.

5. Marilyn Monroe

Monroe was among the top popular world sex symbols in the mid-20th century. Monroe was known for playing the ‘blonde bombshell’ comic.

Billy Graham, a preacher had visited her a night before a performance. Graham told her that God’s Spirit sent him to preach to her. She arrogantly responded, ‘I don’t need your Jesus’

Just a week later, Monroe was found dead in her apartment.

6. Ronald Belford

Popularly known as Bon Scott, he was an Australian singer and songwriter. His arrogance is clear in the song titled; ‘Do not stop me; I’m on the highway to hell‘

He goes ahead to call hell the promised land.

In 2 Peter 2:4, we see that hell is designated for those who sin against God. It is a place for God’s enemies including the devil as we see in Revelation 20:10. He was choked by his own vomit and died, a year later.

7. 2005 Campinas Car Accident

A mother escorted her daughter to be picked up by friends. The friends in the car were so drunk. Out of concern, the mother said to the daughter; ‘My daughter, go with God and may He protect you’.
“Only if he (God) travels in the trunk, cause inside here it’s already full’, replied the daughter.

The car was later involved in a fatal accident, and everyone therein died. The trunk, where God was to travel, was found intact with a crate of eggs, none was broken.

8. Christine Hewitt

Hewitt was a Jamaican radio and television personality. Christine referred to the Holy Word of God as the worst book ever written .Her body was found burnt beyond recognition, in her Toyota minivan.

9. Brandon Lee son to Bruce Lee

Brandon Lee was an action film star in America. Lee died out of a firearm malfunction when accidentally, a mishandled prop gun shot by. This happened when he was filming a movie ‘The Crow’ finding God in a Godless place.

There is this part in the movie, ‘Jesus joke’; and this is what Brandon said: “Jesus Christ? Stop me if you heard this one: Jesus Christ walks into a hotel.” Lee died before the movie was out.

10. Timothy Treadwell

He was an environmentalist, documentary film maker and a bear enthusiast.

Treadwell once said, ‘…I don’t see the standard God, the Christian God and all the Allahs.
He also said that he felt like in a presence of a god when he was with a grizzly bear. He dared compare the Creator with a bear!

The American was killed and eaten by a bear.

11. George Bernard Shaw

George Bernard Shaw wasa prominent British socialist and a critic. He identified himself as an atheist. Shaw is popular for revolutionizing comedic drama.

Shawl believed man and God worked together by trial and error to gain power over circumstances.
He said, ‘Evil is simply the accumulation of mistakes made by what you call God in his method of Trial and Error’.

While trimming a tree in his home, Shawl fell off a ladder and broke a thigh. Later on, after a day-long coma, he succumbed to death.

12. George Denis Patrick Carlin

Carlin was an influential stand-up comedian in America with dark sense of humor. Carlin openly rejected all forms of religion and said he didn’t believe in God.

He also criticized religion and mocked traditional oath affirmations on the Bible as “bullshit”, “make believe”, and “kid stuff”. He died of heart failure a week after a comedy performance.

13. Dave Wayne Williams

Wayne Williams was an American vocalist and a leader in the rock band ‘Drowning Pool’. He owns the Sermon Lyrics where we find these lines;

‘Where was God when I came to an end’

‘Where was God when I lost my mind’

‘Where was God when I could not find’

‘…I do not know who to trust my heart is filled with disgust….’

‘are you ready for the joke, are you ready for the great deception? God’.

David was found dead in a tour bus belonging to the band. He died from heart failure which was undiagnosed until his death.

14. Jahseh Dwayne Ricardo Onfroy

Jahseh Dwaynewas an American singer-song writer and rapper professionally named xxxtentacion. He once said, “A fucking year from now all of these people will be worshipping me.”

This was blasphemy as Revelation 19:10 says ‘Worship God only’.

One year after, he encountered his death in a Florida robbery, where he was shot dead.

15. Tupac Amaru Shakur

Tupac was an American rapper considered as the most influential and successful rappers of all times.

Here’s some lyric extract from Shakur’s song Blasphemy Lyrics:

‘Everybody kissin’ ass to go to heaven ain’t goin’ ‘tell me I ain’t God’s son; nigga, momma a virgin’
‘still bullshittin’ niggas in Jerusalem waiting for signs God comin’, she’s just taking her time (Haha!)

‘Mama, tell me: am I wrong? Is God just another cop waitin’ to beat my ass if I don’t go pop?’

Tupac died even before the song was released.

Also check:

12 Celebrities Who Regret Mocking Jesus

12 Atheist Celebrities Who Died Mysteriously

15 Famous People Who Mocked God and Died

Anonymous to the bone
Anonymous to the bone
February 28, 2024 10:04 am

Iesous was a man and Christ is the spirit. Jesus is just a name to defeat minds.