Whistleblower: U.S. Satellite Images Show Ukrainian Troops Shooting Down MH17

Via InfoWars

Source tells award winning reporter Washington lying about responsibility for tragedy

by Paul Joseph Watson | July 21, 2014


Award winning former Associated Press reporter Robert Parry has been told by an intelligence source that the United States is in possession of satellite imagery which shows that Ukrainian troops were responsible for the shoot down of Malaysian Airlines Flight 17.

In the absence of any proper investigation, media rhetoric over the last few days has firmly pointed the finger of blame for the downing of the aircraft on Russian-backed Ukrainian rebels, but Parry’s source tells a different story.

What I’ve been told by one source, who has provided accurate information on similar matters in the past, is that U.S. intelligence agencies do have detailed satellite images of the likely missile battery that launched the fateful missile, but the battery appears to have been under the control of Ukrainian government troops dressed in what look like Ukrainian uniforms.

The source said CIA analysts were still not ruling out the possibility that the troops were actually eastern Ukrainian rebels in similar uniforms but the initial assessment was that the troops were Ukrainian soldiers. There also was the suggestion that the soldiers involved were undisciplined and possibly drunk, since the imagery showed what looked like beer bottles scattered around the site, the source said.

Although the establishment press has attempted to deride any questioning of the official narrative that Ukrainian rebels were responsible for the incident by invoking the tired “conspiracy theory” pejorative, Parry can hardly be dismissed as a crank given his key role in covering the Iran-Contra scandal for the Associated Press and Newsweek. Indeed, Parry’s investigative work on intelligence matters, for which he was awarded the George Polk Award, suggests that the information provided by his source is worthy of serious attention.

U.S. and Ukrainian authorities continue to insist that Moscow-backed separatists were responsible for the tragedy, asserting that a BUK missile system was used to bring down the airliner. However, this was contradicted by Ukraine’s Prosecutor General Vitaliy Yarema, who stated, “The military told the president after the passenger plane had been shot down that the terrorists did not possess our Buk missile systems.”

In a related development, audio experts who conducted a study into the authenticity of a recording released by Ukrainian authorities which implicated Russian-backed rebels as being responsible for the missile attack on MH17 concluded that the tape was fabricated.

“The tape’s second fragment consists of three pieces but was presented as a single audio recording. However, a spectral and time analysis has showed that the dialog was cut into pieces and then assembled. Short pauses in the tape are very indicative: the audio file has preserved time marks which show that the dialog was assembled from various episodes, the expert said,” reports ITAR-TASS.

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Iska Waran
Iska Waran
July 21, 2014 3:05 pm

My advice to Mr. Parry would be that he not drive anywhere. Especially in a Mercedes in Los Angeles. Also – he shouldn’t walk anywhere either, especially not after having a glass of wine in a pub in Los Angeles. He probably shouldn’t ride a bike or take a bus, either. Nor should he stay home.

overthecliff
overthecliff
July 21, 2014 4:18 pm

cbs has video ofrussian equipment moving about. wow that really proves a lot! people can make up any stuff they want.

overthecliff
overthecliff
July 21, 2014 4:21 pm

This is a cover for something else. Maybe to keep people from knowing the joos are killing and eating babies in Gaza.

Persnickety
Persnickety
July 21, 2014 4:33 pm

@over: I don’t think babies are considered Kosher. It’s just killing going on there.

AWD
AWD
July 21, 2014 4:53 pm

Ron Paul once again tells the truth, versus lying shit-bag Obama and his MSM shills

Ron Paul: What The Press Isn’t Reporting About The MH17 Disaster

Submitted by Tyler Durden on 07/21/2014 15:57 -0400

Authored by Ron Paul via The Ron Paul Institute,

Just days after the tragic crash of a Malaysian Airlines flight over eastern Ukraine, Western politicians and media joined together to gain the maximum propaganda value from the disaster. It had to be Russia; it had to be Putin, they said. President Obama held a press conference to claim – even before an investigation – that it was pro-Russian rebels in the region who were responsible. His ambassador to the UN, Samantha Power, did the same at the UN Security Council – just one day after the crash!

While western media outlets rush to repeat government propaganda on the event, there are a few things they will not report.

They will not report that the crisis in Ukraine started late last year, when EU and US-supported protesters plotted the overthrow of the elected Ukrainian president, Viktor Yanukovych. Without US-sponsored “regime change,” it is unlikely that hundreds would have been killed in the unrest that followed. Nor would the Malaysian Airlines crash have happened.

The media has reported that the plane must have been shot down by Russian forces or Russian-backed separatists, because the missile that reportedly brought down the plane was Russian made. But they will not report that the Ukrainian government also uses the exact same Russian-made weapons.

They will not report that the post-coup government in Kiev has, according to OSCE monitors, killed 250 people in the breakaway Lugansk region since June, including 20 killed as government forces bombed the city center the day after the plane crash! Most of these are civilians and together they roughly equal the number killed in the plane crash. By contrast, Russia has killed no one in Ukraine, and the separatists have struck largely military, not civilian, targets.

They will not report that the US has strongly backed the Ukrainian government in these attacks on civilians, which a State Department spokeswoman called “measured and moderate.”

They will not report that neither Russia nor the separatists in eastern Ukraine have anything to gain but everything to lose by shooting down a passenger liner full of civilians.

They will not report that the Ukrainian government has much to gain by pinning the attack on Russia, and that the Ukrainian prime minister has already expressed his pleasure that Russia is being blamed for the attack.

They will not report that the missile that apparently shot down the plane was from a sophisticated surface-to-air missile system that requires a good deal of training that the separatists do not have.

They will not report that the separatists in eastern Ukraine have inflicted considerable losses on the Ukrainian government in the week before the plane was downed.

They will not report how similar this is to last summer’s US claim that the Assad government in Syria had used poison gas against civilians in Ghouta. Assad was also gaining the upper hand in his struggle with US-backed rebels and the US claimed that the attack came from Syrian government positions. Then, US claims led us to the brink of another war in the Middle East. At the last minute public opposition forced Obama to back down – and we have learned since then that US claims about the gas attack were false.

Of course it is entirely possible that the Obama administration and the US media has it right this time, and Russia or the separatists in eastern Ukraine either purposely or inadvertently shot down this aircraft. The real point is, it’s very difficult to get accurate information so everybody engages in propaganda. At this point it would be unwise to say the Russians did it, the Ukrainian government did it, or the rebels did it. Is it so hard to simply demand a real investigation?
Average:

AWD
AWD
July 21, 2014 5:36 pm

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Dear Leader vs. Putin, the gauntlet is thrown…

Obama Seen Gaining on Putin as U.S. Prods EU on Sanctions

In an uncharacteristic statement short of drawing a red line, yet diplomatically “ballsy” in light of recent administration’s foreign policy, Dear Leader has openly challenged Vladimir Putin by sending the awe-inspiring Secretary of Being Someplace Else, John Kerry, to talk to others not involved.

“We are trying to encourage our European friends to realize this is a wake-up call,” Kerry said.

Encouraging friends to wake up is a highly successful diplomatic maneuver used successfully in administration’s recent successful endeavors such as Egypt, Syria, and the Defense of Benghazi.

As nothing was said and nothing will be done, this has Dear Leader’s fingerprints all over it, especially since he is vacationing in Martha’s Vinyard. Putin has not read of this in the news, so he has yet to comment.

Details as they happen, film at eleven…

AWD
AWD
July 21, 2014 5:37 pm

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Sensetti
Sensetti
July 21, 2014 5:54 pm

I knew Vlad did not pull this stupid shit. But don’t worry you won’t here shit from Ketchup Lurch or his little half black buddy.

Nonanonymous
Nonanonymous
July 21, 2014 6:12 pm

Given the US track record in the region, conspiring to overthrow a democratically elected government in Kiev and put their own government in control, does it really matter what the US says? Responsibility for the conflict in the Ukraine can be laid directly at the feet of the imperialist US government and it’s allies in the west. Instead of acting as a force for good in the world, and assisting in autonomous governance in region, for the benefit of the people, the US acts as a force for tyranny, pushing the Ukraine people into the arms of the Russians.

I would whole heatedly support self determination in Ukraine. They had a chance at negotiating a better life for themselves sitting between Russia and the West. Instead, both sides are determined to not allow that to happen. What chance do they have now, or choice between one master or the other.

The Ukrainian people would do best to kick out the Nazi Obamanites and Communist Putinites. It would require a backbone which they might yet find.

SSS
SSS
July 21, 2014 7:19 pm

Sent a note to an expert. Will advise any worthwhile response.

My take: this account has legs.

SSS
SSS
July 21, 2014 7:31 pm

Shit. He just replied. No comment, but a polite no comment.

SSS
SSS
July 21, 2014 8:47 pm

“No comment is a telling comment.”
—-Admin

Maybe, maybe not I’d have to give you additional background on the source. Can’t (won’t?) do it here. Sorry, but I tried.

green of dragon clan
green of dragon clan
July 21, 2014 9:23 pm

If Russia can prove this is a False flag all hell will break loose.
Russia already knows if and if not this is false flag. One would expect Russia to take certain actions if this really was false flag!

The other option is mistake on the part of separatists. Having military craft right next to civilian craft makes this much more likely.

Joseph E Fasciani
Joseph E Fasciani
July 21, 2014 9:28 pm

Cui bono? Who profits from this atrocity?

Why would Russia –not a nation of fools– commit an act that would so egregiously link them to a war? And at a time when the nation has enough to deal with, starting w/its encirclement by the USA & NATO?

Imagine how the USA would react if it were surrounded by nations that allowed Russian and Chinese missiles and bases….

Now we have a US satellite photo confirmation that it was done by Ukrainian troops, likely the same ones said to have been drunk & disorderly. Well, if so, then this is one HELL of a prank or poke. WW1 & WW2 were begun over lesser incidents.

Homer
Homer
July 21, 2014 10:41 pm

To sum it up, “I see nothing, I hear nothing, I know nothing”. How people can act with such conviction, without a shred of facts, is beyond my understanding. Maybe they have secret agenda After the fourth world war, were fighting the third now and have been for 20 yrs., the historians will still be arguing about this the same as whether FDR knew about Pearl Harbor. Only Lamont Cranston know the truth and he’s not telling.

It would be a shame if another great war is started over some speculation. Wait a minute…ALL wars are started over some speculation. Gasp!

Kill Bill
Kill Bill
July 22, 2014 1:38 am

Maybe, maybe not I’d have to give you additional background on the source. Can’t (won’t?) do it here. Sorry, but I tried. -SSS

Okay, thx for trying, seems to me all parties know this is a now a false flag.

How to unwind it.

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 22, 2014 1:45 am

China.

Looking at you.

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 22, 2014 7:50 am

MH-17: and NATO Exercise “Breeze 2014” – Beware of the «Chameleon»

Wayne MADSEN | 21.07.2014

The 10-day NATO exercise code named «BREEZE 2014» has ended in Black Sea. The exercise, which included the use of electronic warfare and electronic intelligence aircraft such as the Boeing EA-18G Growler and the Boeing E3 Sentry Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS), coincided with the shootdown of Malaysian Airlines Flight 17 in eastern Ukraine, some 40 miles from the Russian border. NATO ships and aircraft had the Donetsk and Luhansk regions under total radar and electronic surveillance.

MH-17 was shot down over a region where Russian-speaking separatist forces have been battling against the alliance of the Ukrainian armed forces and a private mercenary force answerable to a Ukrainian-Jewish billionaire oligarch.

The U.S. Army has revealed that the 10-day exercise involved «commercial traffic monitoring». Because of the sophistication of the electronic warfare and intelligence used during SEA BREEZE, it can be assumed that commercial traffic monitoring included monitoring the track of MH-17.

Past NATO-Ukraine exercises in Crimea were called «SEA BREEZE». This year’s annual SEA BREEZE exercise with Ukraine, approved by the rump Ukrainian Parliament, is clouded in mystery with the Pentagon saying it was only «in the planning stage and we can’t announce dates yet». However, 200 U.S. Army personnel normally assigned to bases in Germany were in Ukraine during the time of the MH-17 fly-over. They were participating in NATO exercise RAPID TRIDENT II. Ukraine’s Ministry of Defense led the exercise.

BREEZE included the AEGIS-class guided missile cruiser USS Vela Gulf. AEGIS cruisers’ AN/SPY 1 radar has the ability to track all aircraft over a large region. For example, the AEGIS test center in Moorestown, New Jersey, was able to see the Boeing 747 TWA Flight 800 when it disappeared from radar screens in 1996 near East Moriches Bay, Long Island. According to Lockheed Martin personnel who operated the AEGIS test center in New Jersey, the Navy ordered the SPY 1 radar turned off for «maintenance» shortly before the downing of TWA 800.

From the Black Sea, the Vela Gulf was able to track Malaysian Airlines 17 over the Black Sea and any missiles fired at the plane. U.S. AWACS electronic intelligence (ELINT) aircraft were also flying over the Black Sea region at the time of the MH-17 flyover of Ukraine. Growler aircraft have the capability to jam radar systems in all surface-to-air threats.

The announcement of U.S. BREEZE and RAPID TRIDENT II military maneuvers came on May 21, 2014, and were announced on the website operated by Vice President Joe Biden’s office. Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, is a newly-named director of the Ukrainian natural gas and oil company Burisma Holdings, Ltd., owned by IhorKolomoisky, the Ukrainian-Israeli mafia oligarch, whose is known as the «Chameleon». Kolomoiskyhas raised his own mercenary army, complete with the BUK missiles allegedly used in the shootdown of MH-17. Kolomoisky, the Governor of Dnipropetrovsk oblast in eastern Ukraine, has threatened terrorist attacks against Russian-speaking officials in eastern Ukraine, including assassinations.

Burisma is a typical RUIM [Russian – Ukrainian – Israeli – Mafia] operation, with subsidiaries in such tax havens as Cyprus and the British Virgin Islands. It is part of Kolomoisky’s large umbrella corporation called Privat Group.

Kolomoisky, estimated to be the second-richest person in Ukraine, also has strong connections inside Kiev’s Borispol International Airport, where it has been reported that Ukrainian Interior Ministry troops stormed the air traffic control tower shortly before MH-17 was shot down. A Spanish air traffic controller, who possessed knowledge of the Ukrainian Interior Ministry’s involvement in the shootdown of MH-17, reportedly had his life threatened by people he described as «Maidan» troops, a reference to the Maidan Square uprising that toppled the Ukrainian government earlier this year. The Spanish controller, identified only as «Carlos,» understood that the shootdown of MH-17 was carried out by supporters of former Ukrainian Prime Minister YuliaTymoshenko and Interior Minister ArsenAvakov. Kolomoisky is a political ally of Tymoshenko and Avakov.

Kolomoisky, until 2012, owned Aerosvit Airlines, which used Borispol as a hub, and Donbassaero, which was based out of Donetsk Airport. Aerosvit leased all of its planes, including a Boeing 767, from Boeing Capital. After filing for bankruptcy, Aerosvit and Donbassaero ceased flying in April 2013. Among other Kolomoisky airlines, Skyways Express, based out of Stockholm ArlandAirport; City Express, based at Gothenburg, Sweden Airport; and Cimber Sterling, based out of Sønderborg and Copenhagen Kastrup Airports in Denmark, all filed for bankruptcy in 2012. Kolomoisky continues to be active in commercial aviation. His Private Group owns Dniproavia, which is based at Dnipropetrovsk Airport.Kolomoisky’s aviation and Israeli security contacts gives him carte blanche access to secure airport facilities in Europe and around the world.

Kolomoisky’s forces are armed with advanced weaponry, obtained both from Ukrainian weapons inventories and from purchases on the black market. Kolomoisky’s forces reportedly possess the BUK surface-to-air missile system said to have been used to shoot down MH-17. Kolomoisky’s forces, comprising Ukrainian regular military personnel; neo-Nazi units from west Ukraine, and foreign mercenaries, including Georgians, Romanians, and white supremacists from Sweden and Germany; and ex-Israel Defense Force Blue Helmet commandos, are mainly separated into four battalions: the Azov Battalion; the Aidar Battalion, the Donbass Battalion; and the 2,000-strong Dniepr-1 (or Dnipro-1) Battalion, which was responsible for the deadly May 1 fire-bombing of the trade union building in Odessa and the burning alive of people trapped inside the Mariupol Police Station on May 9. Dnipro-1 also maintains a 20,000-member reserve force.

At the heart of Kolomoisky’s Army is a Nazi «Brownshirt»-style force of ardent Kolomoisky loyalists who have used guns, iron bars, and batons to seize control of factories and offices in Ukraine that Kolomoisky has expropriated from so-called «separatist» sympathizers.

Some of the Georgians who serve in Kolomoisky’s Army have reportedly been trained in the use of BUK missile systems previously sold by Ukraine to Georgia under the presidency of MikheilSaakashvili. Kolomoisky has utilized ex-President Saakashvili’s «consulting services» in Dnipropetrovsk in the military and political campaign against the breakaway people’s republics of Donetsk and Luhansk.

Kolomoisky placed a one million dollar bounty on Ukrainian Member of Parliament member Oleg Tsarev, who fled to Russia after being severely beaten by Ukrainian right-wingers in Kiev.

Kolomoisky chooses to «command» his army from the safety of Switzerland, far from the front lines and relatively safe from arrest if his ties to terrorist attacks are ever pursued by legitimate governmental authorities.Kolomoisky has a powerful «insurance policy» against any legal recriminations. He counts on the powerful Israel Lobby in the United States to support his cause. Kolomoisky has publicly spoken of Ukraine as the «second homeland» of the Jewish people. And with «The Lobby» in his corner, Kolomoisky has indirect access to the highest levels of power within the Department of Defense, NATO, and the U.S. Intelligence Community.

A Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777, the same type that was used by MH-17 and the still-missing Malaysian Airlines flight 370, which disappeared on March 8 while en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, is stored in a hangar at Ben Gurion International Airport in Tel Aviv. The Boeing 777 in Israel, with serial number 28416, Malaysia registration tail numb 9M-MRI, was sold to GA Telesis, LLC of Fort Lauderdale, Florida, on October 21, 2013. The Boeing 777 was re-registered with the United States tail number N105GT and first stored at Tarbes Lourdes Pyrenees airport and on November 4, 2013, was transferred to Tel Aviv, where it was last spotted in a hangar.

GA Telesis was founded by its CEO, AbdolMoabery. GA Telesis, a global aircraft leasing firm, is now owned by Bank of America Merrill Lynch and Century Tokyo Leasing. Moabery, a former U.S. Naval officer, formerly worked for Aviation Systems International, Inc. as executive vice president and for C-S Aviation Services, Inc. as sales and marketing director. Both of Moabery’s former companies are partly-owned by George Soros, who is partly responsible for laying the groundwork for the Ukrainian coup that ousted President Viktor Yanukovych. C-S (Chatterjee-Soros) Aviation is co-owned by Purnenda Chatterjee, who runs the Chaterjee Group, an investment firm.

Chatterjee Group owns Winston Partners of Alexandria, Virginia, an investment firm co-founded by Marvin Bush, son of George H W Bush. Winston owns corporate entities in the Cayman Islands, Isle of Man, Curacao, and Delaware. One of the Winston entities, Winston Capital Fund, has another Bush family investor, former Florida Governor Jeb Bush. Interestingly, Marvin Bush has served as an adviser to HCC Insurance Holdings, Ltd, a re-insurer of the World Trade Center in New York. Marvin’s business dealings have also involved the purchase and leasing of commercial aircraft.

The executive chairman of GA Telesis Composite Repair Group, LLC, which would be responsible for retrofitting the Malaysian Boeing 777 in Tel Aviv is Aviv Tzur, an Israeli national who was previously the chairman of Ultimate Aircraft Composites (UAC), an Israeli-staffed firm that merged with GA Telesis. UAC, like GA Telesis, specializes in repairing and retrofitting aircraft. UAC also had contracts with the Israeli government.

The presence of a Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 in Tel Aviv, the mysterious disappearance of a second Malaysian Boeing 777 on a flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, and the attack on yet a third Amsterdam-to-Kuala Lumpur Malaysian Boeing 777 over eastern Ukraine may be more than coincidental. Amsterdam’s Schiphol Airport is a center for Israeli Mossad activity in Western Europe. Israeli-owned ICTS controls the security at Schiphol for passengers and cargo. It was ICTS that permitted Nigerian national Umar Farouk Abdulmutallah to slip past Schiphol’s normally stringent security on Christmas 2009 and board a Northwest Airlines Airbus bound for Detroit. While approaching Detroit, Abdulmutallah, who was permitted to board by ICTS in Amsterdam without a passport or U.S. visa, tried to detonate explosive materials sewn into his underpants.

The seizure of the air traffic control center at Borispol by allies of Kolomoisky shortly before the shooting down of MH-17 and Kolomoisky’s strong links to Israel, which benefitted immensely from the downing of MH-17 because it drew the attention of the world’s media away from its ground invasion of Gaza, which began just as initial reports about the fate of MH-17 were being transmitted, may be the real story behind the loss of Malaysian Airlines Flight 17 and the horrible deaths of its 298 passengers and crew.

The Millennium Report
July 21, 2014

MH-17 and NATO Exercise “Breeze 2014″

overthecliff
overthecliff
July 22, 2014 12:40 pm

Russia says Ukraine says, USA says spineless toothless Euros do nothing. No thing but a local war not WWIII.

Mark
Mark
July 23, 2014 8:24 am

Occasionally razor says Russia supplied the rebels with anti aircraft missiles that could reach 30,000 feet. And the rebels shot down the airliner by mistake.

For the conspiracy theory to work. The Ukraine would have had to confiscate the missile system and deliberately shoot down the airliner or have had to have had the missile system prior.

Who would be more likely to shoot the airliner down Ukraine?

I say a mistake by rebels given no Russian supply plan would ever fly over Ukraine, let alone land there.

I agree we should diffuse the situation of U.S. Involvement but don’t know what you all are going on about.

CFL68
CFL68
July 23, 2014 3:11 pm

@TFC

Russian press conference for internal consumption by ‘true believers.’. Most claims immediately debunked. Notion that ground attack su25 could magically appear from nowhere after boeing is hit, then hover in place for 5 mins, then disappear is ridiculous. To be high enough and on correct vector to engage boeing at 33000 ft, and knock it down with its small missiles, all while being invisible, is simply not possible.

Rus knows this. Deliberate cover-up.

As for avto-salon billboard proof that is also rather dubious.

Just because Rus claims something does not make it so.

Perhaps the stationary radar sig the Russians saw was not a magical su25, but rather a cloud of debris from explosion and catastrophic decompression at 33000 ft??? Visible for 4 mins as it descended?

Eh?

CFL68
CFL68
July 23, 2014 3:17 pm

@Admin

“Ukraine hasn’t said how it immediately knew rebels downed Malaysian plane”

Everyone paying attention immediately knew because warlord Strelkov and his band immediately took responsibility bragging of yet another An26 shootdown. The claimed location was where Mh17 crashed. Their proof was video of smoke plume in distance that was the Mh17 crash. Within minutes it was on Russian TV as another An26 shoot down.

Separatists made a mistake and shot down what they thought was An26. Now with help of Russia they are trying to cover it up with misinformation and conspiracies.

AWD
AWD
July 23, 2014 3:38 pm

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Putin on Ritz, get it? Ha-ha-ha.

As we say in Russia На здоровье.

AWD
AWD
July 23, 2014 3:41 pm

You gotta chech this out, hilarious….

http://www.createitnow.co.uk/vladimir-putin-fan-page

John Coster
John Coster
July 23, 2014 11:38 pm

What a disgrace Obama is to this country, without a shred of evidence, spouting a crock of shit story that makes no fucking sense Jeez with the biggest propaganda budget in the world you’d think they could hire a couple of Hollywood screen writers who could make up a credible lie. But no, we’re suppose to believe that the evil genius Putin and the cagey Russians are involved in so self defeating and stupid an idea as shooting down a civilian airliner for no particular reason. And if somehow a bunch of drunken separatists got their hands on the required missile system and figured out how to use it, why on earth would Putin protect them for a second ? He’d kick their asses before the plane hit the ground, for putting him in such a bad position. At least the bullshit 9/11 story, though obviously impossible in a world controlled by the laws of physics, had one plausible element. There WERE jihadists who would LIKE to have crashed airplanes into the Pentagon. But this nonsense. I’m really nonplussed. I know simple corruption can account for much the main stream reporting, but they must be handing out a lot of stupid pills as well. Are people outside the talking haircuts of the mainstream media, even the least informed, really capable of believing such crap?

Vish Patil
Vish Patil
July 28, 2014 2:10 am

U.S Social Media ‘Forensic Evidence’ On MH17 Flight Crash Questionable

US relied on social media for ‘forensic evidence’ against Russian backed rebels for the shooting down of the Malaysian Airlines Flight MH 17.
State Department Spokesperson Marie Harf disclosed that “evidence” was a You Tube video showing a conversation between a separatist leader and a Russian military commander where the former accepts responsibility for shooting down the airliner.
In response to a question by AP reporter Matt Lee, Marie Harf disclosed that the evidence is based on ‘communications’ posted on You Tube and social media by the Ukrainian government.
http://bit.ly/1rtALlQ
There was also a blog post, alleged by Strelkov, the rebel commander making a reference to the hit. However, the post was later found to be a fake, made by unknown “fans” of Strelkov.

sandy
sandy
July 28, 2014 7:46 pm

No one has even mentioned a pilot on this jet , if you look at the pics of the inside of the downed jet you can see clearly there are no burn marks = no missile explosion . It looks more like the door was blown off ad the interior was sucked out along with the passengers . I have never seen so many passengers fall from such a height but no blood , that was not the case on 911 towers was it and that was only a fraction of the height . There is a great chance this is the 370 jet and passengers , doctors reported as well as front line separatists that the bodies were long dead with no blood ans signs of torture , they look like that too if you look closely . Whatever they say it must be the opposite . In every instance there is a drill its so obvious .

Kill Bill
Kill Bill
August 7, 2014 3:02 pm

Good day! Do you know if they make any plugins to protect against hackers? -Macbook

I would get a thumb drive, format it to make sure it is clean, and copy that data to it then remove it. No computer is completely safe when hooked to the internet. I know some that have one computer they use for internet and another that is never hooked to the internet.

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From what I have read there are holes in the plane that are the right size for a 30caliber cannon which the craft that flew close to MH17 is outfitted with. There is no evidence of a missile hit.

Persnickety
Persnickety
August 7, 2014 3:40 pm

Anti-aircraft missiles bring down planes by fragmentation – the warhead is surrounded with metal intended to fragment in a known way, and those fragments fatally damage the target aircraft.

It’s not .30 cal alleged, it’s 30mm. (.30 cal = 7.62mm)

If you can just look at a photo and know that all the holes in the nose are 30mm diameter and not caused by high speed fragments, rather than bullets (shells, actually, in 30mm), you have some amazing powers of perception.

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