The Church in the United States enjoys cozy relations with the State. Liberal pastors question the salvation of anyone who doesn’t vote for a Democrap, while conservative pastors question the faith of anyone who doesn’t vote for a Repuke.
But, nowhere is this coziness more apparent than when the church accepts Special Tax Privileges from the State … which is nothing more than a way to muzzle what a preacher can say, for what the State giveth the State taketh away.
This is an anathema because it makes it almost impossible for the church to maintain an “in the world but not of the world” stance … whereby the church speaks the truth, stands for the truth and obeys the truth without becoming an instrument of the State.
Churches becoming wards of the State is well-documented for Nazi Germany, and we now know that the Soviets co-opted Church leaders to spy on their own people during their oppression of Eastern Europe.
That same betrayal is now happening here.
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CHURCHES ARE PAYING THE GOVERNMENT TO SPY ON FAMILIES
According to an Arizona Dept. of Child Safety document churches are working with social workers to spy on families and they’re also using “Child Safety and Risk Assessments“.
According to a Tuscon.com article church leaders are openly encouraged to collaborate with the government. The article goes on to explain how religious organizations will spy on families and help the gov’t decide whether they should remove a child from their family!“Called The Care Portal, the online tool allows DCS caseworkers who know of a specific need of a child or family to submit that request via email to nearby churches enrolled in the system.”
The “Care Portal” is run by “The Global Orphan Project (TGOP).”
Churches in FIVE states are spying on families:
According to the article, Adrien Lewis launched “The Care Portal” at the end of 2014 in Austin, Texas, it has since expanded to FOUR other states; Texas, Kansas, Missouri and Oklahoma. (if you include AZ that’s FIVE states)
Who is Adrien Lewis?
This is UNBELIEVABLE, according to the TGOP, it is God’s plan for ministers, priests or whoever to spy on families for our government!
According to the TGOP their largest growth area is in the United States. The TGOP proudly boasts, we’ve “grown home.”
How long before EVERY church, mosque and synagogue across the country is spying for our gov’t?
Incredibly the gov’t doesn’t have to pay a single dollar into the child assessment program…
Churches are paying the gov’t up to $100 a month for the privilege to spy on families!
The gov’t hopes the money churches donate to spy on parishioners will be used to support a regional ‘spying’ supervisor in the future.
Risk assessments are B.S.! Check out this telling statement from page 9 of the Arizona Dept. of Child Safety …”there is a lack of standardization in the criteria for assessing risk.” In other words there’s no “standardization” because it’s all lies!
Unfortunately church spying doesn’t end there…
Churches across the country have begun using facial recognition cameras to spy on their members:
He went on to say… “Most of them would like to keep this confidential. We try to encourage churches to make Churchix more visible, so it will become like a checkpoint for registration. Of course, so far we haven’t had great success in doing that.”
Here’s a list of a few surveillance companies that target places of worship; Gideon Protect Services, Watchman Security and Savior Protection, Inc.
State Health & Wellness programs are using faith-based organizations to spy on families:
Back in 2014 it was revealed IRS agents can pose as clergymen to spy on parishioners!
Companies like Total Security want to install surveillance cameras in every church because they “GUARANTEE the safety of worshippers”The American Police State is in high gear, take the organization called the “Church Security Alliance” (CSA) for instance. They have no qualms about turning places of worship into quasi-prisons:
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Clicking on CSA’s church security resource link religious leaders can be trained in things like Physical Incident Training for Church Security, Use of Force Liability Reduction and Weapons Strips and Retention which trains church security personnel in the basics of empty hand or weapons training.
In the near future religious leaders might be trained to kill or kick a worshippers ass.
Below is an example of what worshipping in America might become:
In the not so distant future a busy mother brings her kids to worship in a church, mosque or wherever. The priest, rabbi or whoever wants to be bed her, so he begins keeping secret records of B.S. child abuse examples and sends then to the gov’t. The next time she goes to worship she brings her husband along where he’s promptly arrested. The gov’t takes her kids and now the minister, priest or whoever can have his way with her. Mission accomplished.
Click here to read about DHS’s “Faith based Security and Communications Advisory Committee” and how they’ve partnered with the Christian Emergency Network.
To find out more about church surveillance read is “God is Watching, and So Am I: The Theology of Surveillance.”
Where does the spying stop?
One local small church has a surveillance system installed. It is a shame that there are not more fire and brimstone pastors like Lester Roloff. Unfortunately, churches have become politically correct, feel good progressive, humanistic, money grubbing institutions. Compare a King James Bible to a modern “revised” Bible, and you can see the differences.
Those pastors or churches who do preach the word of God, the government will be coming after you: “Houston subpoenas pastors’ sermons in gay rights ordinance case” https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/religion/houston-subpoenas-pastors-sermons-in-gay-rights-ordinance-case/2014/10/15/9b848ff0-549d-11e4-b86d-184ac281388d_story.html
Ephesians 6:11-13 King James Version (KJV)
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
The government has taken over every aspect of peoples’ lives, and now they want control of their religion. I predict a union between church and state that will make way to the beast in Revelations.
Anyone looking for conservative, old fashion, Christian music and peaching, look into KNVBC.
Lester Rolloff ….now that’s a name I haven’t heard in awhile.I visited all his homes and met him personally…while I respect the man, some of his workers seem a bit on the edge and IMO where untrustworthy. and let their personal ambition for power construe the mission of Roloff ministries.
His death was a tragic loss for the cause of Christianity.
We are told in prophecy that in the last days the church will fall away from the teaching of the Gospel and follow unsound doctrine.
It should be apparent to everyone that this is what is happening today, a sign of our times in prophecy.
We are told of the wide gate of destruction which many will enter because it is easy and the narrow gate of salvation that few will enter because it is difficult.
Most people calling themselves Christian in these final times will not be Christian, they will be reprobates without even realizing they are.
Choose which you will be, which gate you will enter. It is an important choice for you to make and you need to make it now.
“It is an important choice for you to make and you need to make it now.” —–Anonymous
No. I am waiting until tomorrow. I envision a Group Come-To-Jeebus Conversion, with Admin leading the way down the Glory Road of Salvation …. baptized with several pints of Guinness, singing ‘Glory! Halleluiah!’ to the denizens of The Big Apple, for broad is the way on Broadway.
Stucky,
Are you sure you’ll still be here tomorrow?
People make a totally unexpected exit all the time, ya’ know.
Don’t worry about the church. It will answer to God for its idolatry and whoredom. Worry about your own soul. The true church will stand when the day comes. God never leaves himself without a witness. Throughout church history there has always been those who are faithful even if it’s just a few.
When real persecution comes the pews of many churces will be empty, but many will be meeting in small gatherings, breaking bread and serving God. It’s easy to point fingers at the modern day American church, it’s much more difficult to grapple with the depravity of ones own soul.
I know no one will listen to this Lester sermon … but, here are the topics covered; —– long hair on men (“shameful”), short hair on women (“an abomination”), makeup on women, hippies, buying gas on Sunday, too many people going swimming on Sunday, too many women cooking on Sunday, reading the newspaper on Sunday, newspaper delivery boys who go to the devil for delivering on Sunday, “homosectals”, professional football and baseball, people on dope from their family doctors, public schools, sex ed. …. Fucken’ sinners bound for hell one and all.
Seems reasonable.
“Are you sure you’ll still be here tomorrow?” ——– Anonymous
The two Jehovah Witness dudes just left ….. the one named Paul said he is absolutely convinced that God has great plans for me. Convinced! He said.
So, I’m good to go for tomorrow.
I haven’t done a lot of research on it but the KJV…is well…an edited version of the bible per good ol’ King James. I know he left out some gospels and other stuff too .
Ten things you need to know about the King James Bible
1. It was widely ignored on publication. Far from being an instant classic, The King James, or Authorised Version, was widely ignored on first publication for one very good reason: hardly anyone wanted it in the first place. It was widely ignored on publication.
2. It was never intended as a means of giving the Bible to the people: it was intended as a way of stopping them using the Bible they already had. The people already had a great English translation – the Geneva version. James I hated that because he thought its footnotes were seditious. So he specifically commanded that the new version shoudl be done without footnotes.
3. It was a revision not a new translation. James ordered that it be based on the text of the Bishops’ Bible of 1568. James instructed that the new version was to be ‘as little altered as the truth of the original [i.e. the Bishop’s Bible] will permit’.
4. It was a politically motivated translation. James also instructed that ‘the old ecclesiastical words to be kept, viz. the word Church not to be translated Congregation.’ James insisted that ekklesia be translated as church and that the word ‘bishop’ be used instead of ‘elder’.
5. It’s a sanitised version. The Geneva Bible uses the word ‘tyrant’ over four hundred times to describe wicked kings and emperors. But you won’t find the word at all in the AV. It’s the king’s Bible – how can a divine monarch ever be a tyrant?
6. It was designed to be the preserve of the clergy and church. It was a lectern Bible – a massive book designed to be kept in a church and read to you. The Geneva Bible had tons of footnotes and introductions and maps and charts – it was the world’s first study Bible. the AV had nothing except a lengthy preface and then the lectionary. The powers behind the AV didn’t want the people to read the Bible: they wanted it read to them.
7. It was the world’s first mock-Tudor Bible. The language is undeniably beautiful. But it is deceptive. The translators of the AV upgraded the language of the original. The translators chose – created, really – a style of language which was not one spoken in Jacobean England: which, indeed, had never really been spoken by anyone, at any time. They were deliberately archaic. They used terms and phrases which were already out of date in 1611. Anthony Johnson, writing less than ninety years later stated that the absence of notes from the AV led to complaints from some readers that ‘they could not see into the sense of the Scriptures.’
8. It’s mainly the work of Tyndale. The AV is still, primarily the work of the great William Tyndale. At least 83 per cent of the New Testament comes from Tyndale’s translation and 76 per cent of the Old Testament come from Tyndale’s work, with the AV translators just adding that sheen of impenetrable Jacobean literary bling. The AV has majesty and stateliness. But Tyndale has a levity, a homeliness which is entirely absent from the AV. According to Tyndale, ‘The Lord was with Joseph and he was a lucky fellow’; according to the AV ‘the Lord was with Joseph and he was a prosperous man’ (Gen. 39.2). See what’s happened? Joseph’s gone up in the world. Just like the Bible.
9. Even the translators themselves didn’t use it. Lancelot Andrewes, chairman of the AV translators, used the Geneva Bible for his sermons – as did several other bishops. Archbishop Laud, the man later given the task of suppressing the Geneva Bible, based his sermons on the Geneva Bible until the mid-1620s. Amazingly, even in the AV itself, in the preface, Bishop Smith makes a quote – and he quotes the Geneva Bible! When the Puritans from the Mayflower set foot on America, it was the Geneva Bible they carried with them, not the King James.
10. It succeeded because other versions were banned. The Geneva Bible continued to sell and in huge numbers. Indeed, the Geneva proved so popular that in 1616 the King was forced to ban the printing of the Geneva Bible by any English press. Although people continued to import copies, eventually the ban worked and the AV became the default English translation. Without any serious competition, its sonorous, beautiful, fantastic prose wove itself into our culture.
@ Stuck:
re: Lester Roloff
I used to live in Corpus Christi, TX, Bro. Lester’s home base. I used to listen to his sermons on the AM radio, all the time.
I don’t really know why. It was a hoot, mainly. I can’t say I grew any spiritually from listening to his sermons, although I listened to a bunch of them. I can still hear his theme song in my head. (One sat alone, beside the highway…..)
So I don’t need to listen to the specific one you posted. Even without your Cliffs’ Notes, I’ll bet I could have made a fair guess as to what is in there.
Just one shock after another.
Pretty soon you’ll be telling me that it’s not safe to leave my children alone with priests.
Stucky,
God does have great plans for you.
He had them for you before you were even born.
But it is up to you to do them or choose your own path.
Your own path will not necessarily be the one that has you still here tomorrow.
Are you striving to follow God’s path for you or are you choosing to follow your own path instead?
BUCKHED,
Gospels haven’t been left out of the Bible, the Gospels are the writings of the the Apostles relating the life and teaching of Jesus. Some of the books of the Bible from pre Christian times were/are left out in most translations because of doubt as to their authenticity,
They are, readily available for study if you want to read them (FWIW, Martin Luther said that the Book of Enoch was rightly left out but that there was great merit in studying it. The reason it is left out is there is doubt whether it is an inspired book or a work of fiction based other texts in the Bible that are considered the inspired Word).
If you would like to study the Bible in depth I highly recommend using e-Sword and following multiple translations and commentaries and such to gain a better understanding (assuming you don’t understand Greek and Hebrew). It’s free to download with the exception of a few copyrighted texts http://www.e-sword.net/
There are, of course, many other study resources available including local Church based Bible studies.
If there is some cosmic plan for me that was laid out by the sky king, then he has one helluva sense of humor.
I don’t know about all the different flavors of Christianity, but the Methodist and Congregationalist churches that some of my family members attend preach a message that is the direct opposite of what people need to know, act on and believe in order to survive. The churches are setting their ‘flock’ up for slaughter.
Here’s my prayer:
“Lord, let me be fast and accurate
Let my aim be true and my hand faster than those who would seek to destroy me
Grant me victory over my foes and those who wish to do harm to me and mine
Let my last thought not be ‘if I only had my gun’
And Lord, if today is truly the day you call me home
Let me die in a pile of empty brass”
Amen
I had not considered Irelia’s interpretation since I’d always been told it was a spiritual battle and nothing more but it makes sense when you couple it with Lysander:
Irelia says: Ephesians 6:11-13 King James Version (KJV)
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
Lysander says: Here’s my prayer:
“Lord, let me be fast and accurate
Let my aim be true and my hand faster than those who would seek to destroy me
Grant me victory over my foes and those who wish to do harm to me and mine
Let my last thought not be ‘if I only had my gun’
And Lord, if today is truly the day you call me home
Let me die in a pile of empty brass”
I wish Debbie Downer would give some sort of hint at what she disapproves of.
Is it that I quoted her? Or called attention to her own comment? What? You write stuff here and as far as anybody is concerned, it is open for comment, attack, agreement, or ridicule.
In this case, I used both snippets to comment that while I had always considered it to be a spiritual battle, Stucky says that we also have a battle against dictators here on planet Earth. I was merely reiterating it.
Please be more assertive, Debbie, speak up or go back to lurking which means never commenting and never voting.