I know many people here do not like Infowars as a source of news, but has anyone else heard of this? If true, do you find this disturbing?
How much more evidence do you need? DHS trains to shoot pregnant women, old men, children with guns
Mike Adams
Natural News
Feb 21, 2013
I really didn’t want to cover this subject, but a warning has to be issued to Natural News readers. Infowars writer Paul Joseph Watson has uncovered proof that a U.S. based company called “Law Enforcement Training, Inc.” has been selling millions of dollars worth of “no hesitation” targets to the Department of Homeland Security.
These targets (see images below) are used to train DHS employees to shoot American citizens and they depict pregnant women, old men, children and even young moms with guns. The purpose of the targets, according to the company that sells them, is to “eliminate any hesitation” that U.S. government employees might normally feel in shooting to kill pregnant women, children and old men. (I’m not making this up. The government’s plan to murder Americans is now right out in the open…)
InfoWars reports they have been informed the “no hesitation” targets were “strictly for Department of Homeland Security and other law enforcement agencies.”
How stupid do they think we are?
This puzzle isn’t difficult to assemble, folks. We’ve got the U.S. government already on record purchasing 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition to be used domestically, inside the united states. The government is also purchasing thousands of full-auto assault rifles, calling them “personal defense weapons.”
On top of that, there are hundreds of thousands of multi-body coffins being stored right now at FEMA camp facilities, and there’s also strong evidence that FEMA camps are being activated with core staff coming on line.
And then we’ve also got the feds saying they want Americans to turn in all their guns and completely disarm themselves so that only the government has guns.
- A d v e r t i s e m e n t
Um… how much evidence do you need, folks? I’m just wondering how so many Americans can still be living in a state of total denial about all this. It is abundantly clear that the current occupying government of America — which is an illegitimate occupying force of anti-constitution traitors and criminals — literally has a plan to mass murder tens of millions of Americans by either gunning them down in the streets, or rounding them up and stuffing them info FEMA coffins (or mass graves).
This plan was openly talked about by Obama’s mentor
This plan was openly talked about by one of President Obama’s mentors, in fact, a key member of the “Weatherman” group of communist-leaning terrorists. Bill Ayers and his cohorts planned a communist takeover of America followed by the rounding up of resistance forces who would then be “re-educated” or terminated. This is all spelled out in great detail in this video interview of Larry Grathwohl, an undercover operative working for federal law enforcement agencies. He infiltrated the Weathermen organization and learned what they really wanted to accomplish.
Watch his testimony in this video:
From the video:
Well, what is going to happen to those people we can’t re-educate? That are die-hard capitalists? And the reply was that they’d have to be eliminated. And when I pursued this further, they estimated that they would have to eliminate 25 million people in these re-education centers. And when I say eliminate, I mean kill.
Here are the images of the cardboard targets, courtesy of InfoWars.com: (story continues below)
War is coming to America
I hope you understand where this is all headed. A government does not buy 1.6 billion bullets for no reason. By my calculations, this is enough ammo to wage a 7-year war with the American people.
A government does not stage gun-related killings (Fast & Furious, Aurora, and elements of Sandy Hook were all staged) and then demand the complete disarmament of the American people for no reason.
The Department of Homeland Security does not buy cardboard targets of pregnant women, young mothers and old men for no reason. They are buying these targets because this is who they are training to kill.
The President does not issue an executive order claiming government ownership of all farms, food, livestock and farm equipment for no reason.
Keep in mind that DHS “officers” do not take an oath of office, meaning they do not swear any allegiance to the U.S. Constitution. Their only allegiance is to their paycheck and their dangerous sense of power, and that comes from the illegitimate occupying government that is now actively plotting to murder its own citizens.
Get out of your state of denial and wake up to what’s happening
This has all reached the point of un-deniability. All of you who have sat back and watched this murderous police state being rolled out while you were paralyzed in a state of denial now need to come to your senses and realize this is real. Our government has been taken over and “occupied” by enemy forces who are openly attempting to destroy the Bill of Rights, eradicate the Constitution and put in place a communist / fascist system of dictatorial control.
The planned economic destruction of the USA is just one part of it. Another part is the continued brain-numbing poisoning of the people through fluoride, lobotomizing vaccines and brain-frying psychiatric drugs.
The government is trying to lull everyone into a state of denial while it puts in place a militarized police state infrastructure that will soon be “activated” to start rounding people up and killing them off — an action which has been “legalized” by President Obama under the NDAA. The Department of Justice recently issued a 16-page memo “justifying” the secret killing of American citizens on U.S. soil.
U.S. veterans are being openly characterizes as the new “terrorists.” The same designation is given to anyone who owns a gun or believes in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Democrats everywhere are practically calling for Obama to declare Martial Law, disband Congress and seize control of the entire country as an outright dictator. This is all being set up and to demonize (and then murder) anyone who resists the coming totalitarian dictatorship society.
It’s now in your face and the targets are clear: Pregnant women will be shot. Young mothers with children will be shot. Old men defending their farms will be shot. Little boys will be shot. Grandmothers defending their homes will be shot. This is what DHS is training for, and anyone who does not yet realize what’s happening is a fool.
Spread the word. Take action now, peacefully, while we still can. Fire every lawmaker who proposes “gun control” legislation. Impeach any President who does not abide by the Constitution. Demand accountability. Demand the government follow the laws of the land. Let your voice be heard and take all necessary precautions for yourself and your family. The day is coming when mass graves will be used in America, and all those citizens who sat around laughing it up on Facebook while living in denial will be marched to the edge of those graves and shot in the back of the head by members of their own government (DHS, TSA, etc.).
History is a bitch. Help me make sure we don’t repeat it, because if we cannot restore law in America peacefully, then the only remaining option is to defend America and uphold the laws of the land through the use of force.
T4C says:
I posted this story under comments in the “5 Year Old Bubble Gun Terrorist” and “What A Mess”. Glad to see that it turned into a headline story on this site. It’s not just infowars.com reporting it. Heres a snippet from freedomoutpost.com that tried contacting the company responsible:
UPDATE: LETargets, which can be contacted at 888-489-7830 to verify the authenticity of these products. The salesperson I spoke with said the page has been pulled, but they are continuing to sell these targets. When asked what their purpose was, she nervously didn’t want to answer and pointed me to a spokesperson, Laren Helms, who has yet to return my call. Also, they seem unwilling to indicate whether federal agencies like DHS or the DOJ have purchased these particular targets. This may be due to privacy reasons, though it is tax payer money and this is not a national security issue.
UPDATE 2/20/2013 1:15pm: Just talked with company spokesman Laren Helms. Mr. Helms confirmed several things:
1) These are sold in low volume
2) The company does supply federal agencies like DHS and the DOJ with products
3) The could not confirm or deny that federal agencies had purchased these targets
4) That these items are used in “advanced law enforcement” training to “put law enforcement officers in unique situations that they may not have thought about or considered.”
Read more: http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/02/dhs-supplier-sells-targets-of-american-gun-owners/#ixzz2LXotOgHN
Also this site: http://www.bob-owens.com/2013/02/company-creates-obama-administration-policy-shooting-targets/
Read more: http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/02/dhs-supplier-sells-targets-of-american-gun-owners/#ixzz2LXoRZS5C
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21st February 2013 at 9:45 am
Eddie says:
Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
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21st February 2013 at 9:46 am
Administrator says:
I’ve got a better idea.
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21st February 2013 at 9:50 am
Lil says:
Reason Magazine (Libertatian) had the article as well
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21st February 2013 at 10:12 am
beast rudolpho says:
its about more than guns . . . purging the bill ayers’ “bitter clingers” also identified in the “deomcide” post.
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/52295
b.r.
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21st February 2013 at 10:18 am
beast rudolpho says:
they are already up to speed in training. just ask randy weaver.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Ridge
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21st February 2013 at 10:22 am
Eddie says:
Re: Randy Weaver
Nobody but nobody can expect to really win a gunfight with government agents. If the full power of the state is directed at a citizen, the citizen will always lose.
In my opinion Randy Weaver made a conscious decision to die for his beliefs and his rights. I respect that.
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21st February 2013 at 10:29 am
fool on the hill says:
“There is no second place winner in a gunfight.”
Col. George Nonte
“It’s the code of the west to do unto others before they do it unto you.”
From the movie Waterhole number three.
Fool hates violence about half as much as he hates THREATS!
Good gun control………..USE BOTH HANDS!
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21st February 2013 at 11:09 am
AWD says:
It don’t see the problem (except the kids). Baby boomers, out-of-wedlock welfare queens, obese female Obama lovers
Admin, where can I buy that Obama urinal target?
Hot debate. What do you think?
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21st February 2013 at 11:32 am
Muck About says:
If I had been the “old man with the shotgun” they would have to add a lot of smoke from the barrels to the picture to make it realistic.
MA
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21st February 2013 at 11:46 am
Stucky says:
” …. a U.S. based company called “Law Enforcement Training, Inc.” has been selling millions of dollars worth of “no hesitation” targets ….” ————— from the article
That is NOT the name of the company.
The company name is — “Law Enforcement Targets, Inc.” Here is their web page
http://www.letargets.com/
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Looks like these articles are swamping their server. Here is the home page message; ——-
“Due to high traffic, we are experiencing difficulties with our servers. We apologize for the inconvenience if you are having a difficult time accessing any of our pages. Thank you for your understanding.”
They have a search box. I entered ““no hesitation target” several times (too see if they actually carry these targets). I kept getting “IE cannot display page”. Maybe some of you can try.
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21st February 2013 at 1:21 pm
card802 says:
Here ya go: http://www.letargets.com/estylez_ps.aspx?searchmode=keyword&searchkeyword=no%20hesitation
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21st February 2013 at 1:45 pm
card802 says:
Painfully slow server………………they call them No More Hesitation targets.
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21st February 2013 at 1:47 pm
Stucky says:
UPDATE
After about 100 tries I was finally able to get on the site … for less than a minute. But I was able to get this;
“The subjects in NMH [No More Hesitation] targets were chosen in order to give officers the experience of dealing with deadly force shooting scenarios with subjects that are not the norm during training.”
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Now listen to this youtube telephone call !!!
Blaine Cooper enquired about the company’s “no hesitation” targets, which also feature children, elderly gun owners and mothers in playgrounds, and was told that the target showing a pregnant woman was a “REQUESTED LAW ENFORCEMENT TARGET FOR TRAINING.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0rUNVsgxgU&feature=player_embedded#!
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So, there you have it. From the company web site and from a company salesrep. They ARE, indeed, selling posters of children, old people, pregnant woman to shoot at …. and this by LAW ENFORCEMENT’S request.
Fuck Amerika. Buy guns. Buy bullets. Hide them. You’re gonna need them.
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21st February 2013 at 1:51 pm
Eddie says:
I guess law enforcement officers do not require additional training targets to practice shooting black pregnant women and children. They seem noticeably absent.
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21st February 2013 at 1:56 pm
Bullock says:
Was at a gun shop the other day and they had an Obama urinal target. The owner said he might have to remove it because twice someone took a shit in the urinal.
Fuck em all I am not afraid of death.
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21st February 2013 at 2:02 pm
Eddie says:
I know I’m going to get more thumbs down for saying this, but I’m going to say it anyway.
There is a lot of bad shit going down in this country, but there are so many conspiracy theories out there that they can’t all be legit. You have to learn to separate the sheep shit from the bean dip, and it isn’t always obvious.
But Occam’s Razor applies here. The simplest explanation is often the best one. As long as cops are shooting at pieces of paper and not mommas and babies, I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
Hot debate. What do you think?
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21st February 2013 at 2:04 pm
Stucky says:
Please support the young lady below.
She is trying to start a company that prints life-size targets of any member of congress we the people might want to shoot at …. for practice only, of course. I called her and asked for 535.
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21st February 2013 at 2:07 pm
Stucky says:
Eddie
For fucks sake.
They are not training to just shoot. Any circle target or silhouette target would do.
They are training to become DESENSITIZED to shooting children, pregnant women, etc.
Paper today ….. flesh tomorrow.
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21st February 2013 at 2:14 pm
Administrator says:
I agree with Eddie.
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21st February 2013 at 2:15 pm
tom says:
saw the piece on http://www.shtfplan.com http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/dhs-supplier-provides-shooting-targets-of-american-gun-owners_02192013
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21st February 2013 at 2:16 pm
napari says:
I didnt see any minority targets! WTF?
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21st February 2013 at 2:29 pm
Hollow man says:
There is enough live fire shoots with minorities to do them for training.
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21st February 2013 at 3:04 pm
Yojimbo says:
Stuck and I agree. It’s for desensitization. Just like the urban military drills.
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21st February 2013 at 3:12 pm
Persnickety says:
Eddie said:
“There is a lot of bad shit going down in this country, but there are so many conspiracy theories out there that they can’t all be legit. You have to learn to separate the sheep shit from the bean dip, and it isn’t always obvious.”
That I agree with 100%.
He also said, earlier, that these targets were used to overcome what is essentially bad training when kids and pregnant women were used exclusively as no-shoot targets. Part of me can see that angle, however, there are some things you just do not do. And making photorealistic targets of little kids and pregnant women that you are intended to shoot at is one of those things that you DO NOT DO, EVER. Whatever the intent is with these targets, the result will be desensitizing people to shooting children and other ordinary, innocent people.
Things can have bad results even without bad intent. Some person who created these targets may not have had bad intent. But the result is bad, and these should be condemned.
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21st February 2013 at 3:13 pm
Administrator says:
Target training for NYC cops, since they don’t shoot so well.
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21st February 2013 at 3:17 pm
IndenturedServant says:
I was willing to believe that these were intended to be targets placed along with bad guy targets and the point would be to differentiate the good from the bad but I’m probably wrong. I’ll go with Eddie on this and give benefit of doubt……..for now.
I know I’ve said this before and been knocked down for it but the recent declarations by multiple LE agencies across the country vowing to not to enforce gun laws PROVES to me that there are still plenty of good cops out there. I will agree that most large cities can be excluded from that thought.
Fuck I hate this shit!
I_S
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21st February 2013 at 3:33 pm
Persnickety says:
Amusing thought for the day: imagine that Johnny, the 10 year old son of a DHS agent, gets one of the “little boy with gun” targets that his dad didn’t use at the range that day, and takes it to school to show a few close friends. BAM! Johnny will be arrested, jailed, and charged as an adult with “making a terroristic threat.” I guarantee it.
Thanks, Kafka.
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21st February 2013 at 3:40 pm
Hope@ZeroKelvin says:
Somebody with more time and better photo posting skills please compare the people in the targets with the list of people thought to be potential domestic terrorists (PDT) by DHS.
These are the “targets” that stood out for me:
Pregnant women who are likely to be antiabortion – and thus on the PDT list.
Old guys with shotguns are likely to be 1) veterans, and 2) defenders of the Constitution – and thus on the PDT list. That one is a twofer.
LIttle boy likely to be a Boy Scout and believe in God – thus a PDT.
Little old lady is likely a church goer and Bible clinger – and thus a PDT.
And note that most of the backgrounds of these “targets” looks rural, hmmm.
See what I mean?
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21st February 2013 at 3:43 pm
Ron says:
During the y2k craze.I told people,when an hummer or APC pulls up to your house.All the billy bad ass comments well go away as you become very polite.
I have my weapons to fight off all the dumfuks who never stocked they’re shelves.
The government well just stop selling ammunition first. I feel the city’s well be the killing fields as
poor ignorant people go crazy.
I still believe it would be up to the military to uphold they’re oath to our country.
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21st February 2013 at 7:22 pm
Outtahere says:
I found that people are going to believe what they WANT to believe, until perception becomes reality and then they’re forced to reconsider things. The problem with that approach is that anyone who takes that approach on the “trusting” side will be ill prepared to handle things when proven wrong, painfully wrong. Better safe than sorry? Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst and you will not likely be surprised or blindsided.
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21st February 2013 at 8:08 pm
Novista says:
Eddit … ” I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.”
Comes the day you are Piked or asset forfeitured, that will vanish.
Cops I’d trust right now:
1. members of Oath Keepers
2. those whove publicly drawn the ‘line in the sand’ according to many reports on the web.
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21st February 2013 at 8:56 pm
SSS says:
“A government does not stage gun-related killings (Fast & Furious, Aurora, and elements of Sandy Hook were all staged) and then demand the complete disarmament of the American people for no reason.”
—-from the article posted by Yojimbo
I was originally going to post my story about hesitation targets during my time at the CIA. Then I carefully read the article again and caught the quote above. Pass.
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21st February 2013 at 11:15 pm
Yojimbo says:
SSS
Goddamit. I was sincerely waiting to hear your comments on this, and now, because of one sentence, which even I don’t entirely agree with, you are going to take a pass?
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21st February 2013 at 11:25 pm
Yojimbo says:
SSS
I sincerely want to know what you think of this – forget that one sentence about hoaxes and spill it – do you find this disturbing that the LEO’s are using these?
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21st February 2013 at 11:27 pm
beast rudolpho says:
eddie,
i gave the link for those who didn’t know the whole story. bottom line, randy weaver LIVED and sued the gubberment and settled for $100000 and his 2 kids got $1000000 each. the gubberment killed his son, and pregnant wife. the rules of engagement were unconstituional. your naked ass is showing eddie.
stuck is right. the desentization continues: “And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold.” Mt. 24:12
b.r.
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21st February 2013 at 11:49 pm
SSS says:
Yojimbo
I have been through “hesitation training.” It is high stress, and in my case, using real ammo. It is not fun. But the purpose of my training was to help protect ME against FOREIGN threats while stationed overseas.
That said, I strongly disagree with the type of training posed in your article. It is, indeed, descriptive of inculcating law enforcement officers to shoot whatever threat they are taught or briefed to perceive. We may be training a robotic army to kill its own citizens. I don’t want that.
Does that answer your question?
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21st February 2013 at 12:02 am
Yojimbo says:
Yes. Thanks.
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21st February 2013 at 7:23 am
ragman says:
I guess I’ll take my Executive Branch and Legislative Branch targets to the range next time I go. If they want to be realistic they should publish the image of a fat-assed old boomer(me) at 1000M with a Barrett 50 that’s fixin to waste their sorry asses. I’m afraid that’s where we’re headed.
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21st February 2013 at 3:01 pm
Appalachian Trail Deblazer says:
http://lewrockwell.com/grigg/grigg-w313.html
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21st February 2013 at 8:45 pm
Frenchie says:
well,
if the average boobus cops start training on targets that show republican voters, don’t waste your time talking anymore.
go seek for armor piercing rounds for your ARs. cutting ammos is the first thing they will do when SHTF.
I already make my own ammos with a lee press, you should start all doing the same.
I also make my own 12 slugs with a nice hardened steel hexa screw in the center for AP purpose.
reloading is a skill you should think of…
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21st February 2013 at 3:25 am
ragman says:
Frenchie: great advice but the components are not available right now.
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21st February 2013 at 8:45 am
JimmyJones says:
I notice nobody here even notices the fact that THEIR DESCRIPTION is “Old lady in her home” and “Old man in his home”. Not to mention that none of the weapons are held or aimed as to be a practiced or likely threat (of course except the old lady in her own house defending herself from somebody who just illegally broke in), and most of the weapons are barely visible. Not saying that guns aren’t a deadly threat, one of these people could get lucky and hit you with 1 of 10 rounds. Just want people to see that our “Law Enforcement” is being trained to see anybody outside of their uniform as an unconditional threat.
These are simply and only about desensitizing those pledged to “serve and protect” so that they will see the average citizen as a threat and will not “hesitate” to shoot them.
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21st February 2013 at 7:58 pm
JimmyJones says:
To Frenchie: That’s why they’ve started going after powder. Even “pro gun” “representatives” are saying to regulate powder noe because they’re afraid of 3D printers.
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21st February 2013 at 8:05 pm
Frenchie says:
ragman, JimmyJones,
we face similar problems in France:
they don’t ban powder itself, but they add new regulations regarding powder storage and powder transportation, so they put many gunsmiths out of business.
we all know here what is coming, so when we have an opportunity to stack on components, we do.
I have 5kg at home, and I think there’s enough to cover some turmoil in the streets.
French regulations are a taste of what is coming in the US.
any firearm starting from a .22 is registered, exept blackpowder ones but this will probably change.
you have to got a licence (to be renewed every 5 years) to shoot military calibers, and you can lose this licence as soon as the cops hear from you: divorce, speeding on the road, mental disorders, ect…
as for availability, we usually get what we want but the market is small so you can face some scarcity sometimes as well as stupid regulations I told about.
the day the great clusterfuck will come, we know they will go after our guns. but this day, they won’t be enough to collect all the steel and we will all declare our guns stolen (and organize the said robbery). note that a safe is mandatory for us to store our rifles and pistols.
another point is that all our guns aren’t declared. we all have “unofficial” things hidden.
anyway don’t worry, American shooters. need an AR? wait that civil war is on, take your son’s henry .22, put a bullet in the head of the closest thug and take his rifle…
just ensure you will never be short of ammos.
mandatory: a reliable 12ga
a good combo: a Rossi lever action 357mag with a Smith revolver 357mag + 2000 rounds and some hollow point reloads. never let you down. 2 guns same ammos. put down any moron.
if you are scared of registration, declare none or 2, 3 of them. burry the others in sealed containers with dessicant.
take care of guns you recently bought with your debit/credit card: there’s an electronic trace of it.
the one who should duck are the government’s thug.
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21st February 2013 at 7:22 am
Is our government getting ready to fight it's citizens ? says:
[...] you forgot about the NO HESITATION TARGETS Reply With [...]
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21st February 2013 at 7:03 pm
ILBB says:
stuck, you force me to come out publicly, my name is ILBB and I am an addict. yep, been watching korean soapys for years, for the storylines of course. nothing to do with that lovely young stuff you posted.
oppa ilbb.
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21st February 2013 at 9:55 pm
ILBB says:
don’t hate, you know you’ve been checking out k-pop
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21st February 2013 at 12:34 am
ILBB says:
what hesitation? lapd unloaded on a guy holding a baby in his arms, whether he shot first is not my point but that the cops fired back 20 to 100 rounds and killed both the shooter and the baby girl.
another incident involved a retarded kid riding his bicycle, playing with a toy gun, one of those that have an orange tip, shot and killed when a neighbor called the cops on someone brandishing a gun.
my buddy’s theory is this: one or two cops, you have a chance. three cops means you are going to get your ass kicked or shot. one lies, the other swears to it and the third is a witness that you got aggressive with the officer.
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21st February 2013 at 12:51 am