MASS DELUSION – AMERICAN STYLE (Featured Article)

“Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.” – Charles Mackay – Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

 

The American public thinks they are rugged individualists, who come to conclusions based upon sound reason and a rational thought process. The truth is that the vast majority of Americans act like a herd of cattle or a horde of lemmings. Throughout history there have been many instances of mass delusion. They include the South Sea Company bubble, Mississippi Company bubble, Dutch Tulip bubble, and Salem witch trials. It appears that mass delusion has replaced baseball as the national past-time in America. In the space of the last 15 years the American public have fallen for the three whopper delusions:

  1. Buy stocks for the long run
  2. Homes are always a great investment
  3. Globalization will benefit all Americans

Bill Bonner and Lila Rajiva ponder why people have always acted in a herd like manner in their outstanding book Mobs, Messiahs and Markets:

“Of course, we doubt if many public prescriptions are really intended to solve problems. People certainly believe they are when they propose them. But, like so much of what goes on in a public spectacle, its favorite slogans, too, are delusional – more in the nature of placebos than propositions. People repeat them like Hail Marys because it makes them feel better. Most of our beliefs about the economy – and everything else – are of this nature. They are forms of self medication, superstitious lip service we pay to the powers of the dark, like touching wood….or throwing salt over your shoulder. “Stocks for the long run,” “Globalization is good.” We repeat slogans to ourselves, because everyone else does. It is not so much bad luck we want to avoid as being on our own. Why it is that losing your life savings should be less painful if you have lost it in the company of one million other losers, we don’t know. But mankind is first of all a herd animal and fears nothing more than not being part of the herd.”

Stocks for the Long Run

The book Stocks for the Long Run was written by Jeremy Siegel in the mid-1990’s. The premise is that if you just buy and hold stocks over a 20 to 30 year period, you will always make money. This was exactly what the Wall Street witch doctors ordered. They pounded this message into the brains of every American incessantly in their advertising campaigns, literature and propaganda. It became an unquestioned truth. Just one problem. It isn’t the truth. Valuations matter. The Dow Jones was at the same level in 1982 as it was in 1966. On an inflation adjusted basis, the Dow did not get back to the 1966 level until 1990. That is 24 years of no return in the stock market. The American public ignored the true facts and piled into equities during the late 1990s. The result was one of the greatest examples of mass delusion in history. The internet bubble drove the NASDAQ market to a peak of 5,048 in March 2000. Today it sits at 2,180. Ten years after the bubble burst, the NASDAQ is still down 57% from its peak.

Delusional Americans all over the country believed in the new internet paradigm. Fools thought “bricks and mortar” retailers were dead. Morons quit their jobs so they could get rich day trading. Wall Street hucksters took advantage of this hysteria by attaching .COM to every ridiculous IPO they shilled to the American public. Wall Street knew these companies were pieces of crap, but they churned out the IPOs as quickly as possible while the getting was good. The Wall Street oligarchs made billions and the delusional American public got screwed. You would think that average Americans would have learned their lesson after this experience. They did not. They continued to buy into the Wall Street lies about stocks being a sure path to riches. The fact is that the S&P 500 is currently at the same level it was in March 1998. On an inflation adjusted basis, it is 25% below the level of 1998. You don’t hear this information on CNBC because the oligarchs that control the media need the delusion to continue in order to harvest more riches from the ignorant masses.

Chart forS&P 500 INDEX,RTH (^GSPC)

Home Sweet Home

“The continuing shortages of housing inventory are driving the price gains. There is no evidence of bubbles popping.”David Lereah – Chief Economist for National Association of Realtors – 2005

“We’ve never had a decline in house prices on a nationwide basis. So, what I think what is more likely is that house prices will slow, maybe stabilize, might slow consumption spending a bit. I don’t think it’s gonna drive the economy too far from its full employment path, though.”Ben Bernanke – 2005

“House prices have risen by nearly 25 percent over the past two years. Although speculative activity has increased in some areas, at a national level these price increases largely reflect strong economic fundamentals.” – Ben Bernanke – 2005

Why was it that two supposedly brilliant, highly trained economists, with countless degrees and high paying positions could be so very wrong? Were they just mistaken or were they purposefully encouraging a national delusion? With the bursting of the internet bubble in 2000 – 2002, Americans immediately proceeded to the next bubble. Alan Greenspan was an almost God like figure in the early 2000s. He had “saved” the economy countless times during his 15 year reign of terror at the Federal Reserve. When he spoke, the American people listened. After the internet bubble and 9/11, he proceeded to reduce interest rates to 1% for an extended period of time. He then gave the all clear sign to Americans to take out adjustable rate mortgages. Lastly, Mr. Free Markets decided that banks and mortgage brokers could police themselves. The result was the greatest housing bubble in US history and a near collapse of the worldwide financial system.

Sane economists like Robert Shiller saw it for what it was. He calmly pointed out that home prices had pretty much tracked inflation for over 100 years. A 100% increase in home prices over the course of 3 years was irrationally exuberant. He was scorned and ridiculed by the delusion propagators at the NAR, the cheerleaders on CNBC, the Wall Street money changers, the Federal Reserve stuffed suits, and the corrupt politicians in Washington DC. The usual drivel about positive demographics, low interest rates, strong income growth, and limited land to develop were spewed out by the corporate media complex. The beneficiaries of this mass delusion were the Wall Street banks that created mortgage products and derivatives faster than Obama spreads our wealth around.

Mass delusion is always encouraged by those who benefit most from the mass delusion. David Lereah has admitted that he lied about the housing bubble because he was employed by realtors. Realtors made millions in commissions. Appraisers made millions in fees by inflating appraisals. Mortgage brokers made millions by encouraging people to lie on mortgage applications. Wall Street whores made billions by creating toxic packages of mortgages and selling them to Irish nuns, old ladies and clueless municipal administrators. The ratings agencies made hundreds of millions in fees for slapping  AAA ratings on toxic derivatives. Politicians got rich from political “contributions” from Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Wall Street, and the NAR. Any reasonable human being could look at the chart above and see that this would end badly, but Americans wanted to be deluded. They choose to believe. The housing market has now been falling for five years, with another five years to go. Ben Bernanke has reduced interest rates to zero. I wonder how that will work out.    

Who Benefited from Globalization?

“It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so.” – Mark Twain

From the time that Bill Clinton signed the NAFTA agreement in 1994, globalization has been touted by those in power as beneficial to all Americans. How could free markets and free trade be a bad thing? Corporate America, Wall Street, and the mainstream corporate media have blared the propaganda of globalization benefits from their loudspeakers. In theory, globalization appears to be a positive concept. It describes a process by which regional economies, societies, and cultures have become integrated through a global network of communication, transportation, and trade. The truth is that globalization is not inherently good or inherently bad. The idea is that each country has its own strengths and weaknesses. Each country will take advantage of their strengths and rely on other countries to help mitigate their weaknesses. This will result in increased trade, a larger world market, and economic progress for all. One small problem. Trade is not really free. Every country on earth protects various industries. Every country on earth manipulates their currency in order to get an edge. Every country on earth invokes tariffs to protect their national interests.

Bill Bonner and Lila Rajiva address the difficulties of globalization and “free trade” in Mobs, Messiahs and Markets:

“Unfair trade is yet another of the dodgy slogans festooning the spectacle of globalization like tinsel slithering around a pole dancer. How can different regulations and practices in different countries constitute unfairness? Isn’t the essence of trade that different countries have different things to offer – whether cheap labor, or better technology, or more bountiful natural resources, or more welcoming business environments? If all countries had exactly the same things to offer each other, there would be no reason to trade at all. But what “fair” trade advocates are really advocating, of course, is unfair trade! They want to make sure their foreign competitors divest themselves of the very advantages that they bring to trading.”

“We notice, for instance, that when Americans in Detroit lose jobs to other Americans in California, they might grumble a bit. But, by and large, they accept it as part of the nature of things. They move, or retrain, or change jobs. But when they lose their jobs to Japanese in Osaka or Indians in Bangalore, then a cry goes up. Unfair trade, howl the trade unions; race to the bottom, scold the social activists; yellow – or brown – peril, shriek the xenophobes and racists.”

It seems the American middle class was sold a false bill of goods. They bought the Big Lie that globalization would benefit them. They bought into the delusion that even though their high paying manufacturing jobs sailed away to China and India, they could maintain their lifestyle through brain work, easy credit, cheap goods made in China by the people who took their jobs, and the ever increasing value of their homes. Noam Chomsky notes the fallacy of this delusion:

“The dominant propaganda systems have appropriated the term “globalization” to refer to the specific version of international economic integration that they favor, which privileges the rights of investors and lenders, those of people being incidental.”

Again, one must seek out who benefits from the delusion of globalization. The crony capitalists, Wall Street oligarchs, and corporate fascists who control the puppet strings in this country have benefited greatly from the Big Lie. Over 5 million manufacturing jobs have been off-shored since 2000. These good paying jobs are never coming back. Millions of service sector jobs continue to be shipped overseas. The global conglomerates like GE, HP, Oracle, IBM, and Boeing continue to rake in billions of profits, distributing millions to its high paid executives, while gutting middle class America. The ruling oligarchs convinced Americans to take advantage of cheap goods and easy credit, to buy electronics, cars, appliances, new kitchens, and take the vacations of their dreams. This Big Lie has left the American consumer with $2.5 trillion of non-mortgage debt and the lowest level of home equity in history. Retailers like Wal-Mart, Target, Home Depot, and Best Buy reaped billions in profits as Americans whipped out one of their 10 credit cards to buy HDTV’s, economy bags of tube socks, iPads, iPods, stainless steel refrigerators, and Dell computers. Small town America’s mom and pop economy was gutted by Big Box retailers selling the globalization delusion. The biggest beneficiaries of the globalization delusion were the Wall Street banks. They control 80% of credit card market and have reaped billions in interest at rates exceeding 20%, while sucking $20 billion per year in late fees from the clueless public. Wall Street bankers have rewarded themselves for their brilliance in destroying the middle class by reaping multi-million dollar bonus packages.

Vincible Ignorance

“Most ignorance is vincible ignorance. We don’t know because we don’t want to know.” – Aldous Huxley

Based on all available evidence, it seems the American public wants to be misled. They have chosen ignorance over knowledge and understanding. They want to believe their corrupt leaders. They want to believe that things always work out in the long run. They want to believe that the economy is about to get better. They don’t want to think about unsustainable debt, unfunded liabilities, saving for retirement, or Simon Cowell leaving American Idol. Americans desperately want to be deluded into another bubble, but there are no evident bubbles left to blow. The existing American delusion is that the current fiscal path will not lead to the utter destruction of our once great Republic.

  

America resembles a 40 year old aging baseball icon with two bad knees, a pot belly, receding hairline and delusions that he is still the ball player he was at 24. He doesn’t realize that his skills are shot, as he flails at curveballs in the dirt thrown by 21 year old kids. The rest of the league knows he is washed up, but he refuses to accept reality. America isn’t even running on fumes at this point. It is running on delusions. Politicians think they have saved the country from a Depression by adding $3 trillion to the National Debt and allowing  Wall Street banks to pretend they are solvent. Americans have been deluded by the ruling oligarchs that a $700 billion bank bailout, an $800 billion pork filled stimulus plan, the Federal Reserve buying $1.2 trillion of toxic mortgages, and the Treasury forcing taxpayers to pick up a $400 billion tab for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac’s bad loans has actually solved a problem created by too much debt.

The American herd has gone mad. A few people have regained their senses, but the vast majority still exhibits the behavior of sheep being led to slaughter. The ruling oligarchs have utter contempt for the average American, but they fear the masses. In order to retain their power and wealth, they gladly hand out two years of unemployment payments, food stamps, and welfare payments to keep the masses sedated. The working middle class foots the bill. Corruption abounds and is sustained by the passage of more laws and regulations. The sociopathic powers that control the levers of power in this country need to be brought to justice if this country has any chance at survival. The den of vipers and thieves have trampled on the Constitution, speculated with the country’s funds, risked blowing up the financial system, committed fraud on a massive scale, and continue to rape and pillage the American citizens. Vincible ignorance by the American people is no longer a legitimate excuse. The criminals on Wall Street and Washington DC must be routed out and Americans must awaken from their delusional state before it is too late. I weep for the liberty of my country.

And you run and you run to catch up with the sun, but it’s sinking
Racing around to come up behind you again
The sun is the same in a relative way, but you’re older
Shorter of breath and one day closer to death

                                          Pink Floyd – Time

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Daniel
Daniel
August 16, 2010 10:58 am

Jim, It looks like I hit your nerve, and deep. Read your own article again, and tell me with a straight face that it does not drip with distain for your countrymen. The whole article is an essay in how Americans have been suckered over and over again, and we are too stupid to figure out with are the mark in the room. You see America as an over-the-hill, washed-up ball player. I don’t see it that way despite our problems. You’ve even quoted Noam Chomsky for fuck sake! Who is the asshole here?:

“The American public thinks they are rugged individualists, who come to conclusions based upon sound reason and a rational thought process. The truth is that the vast majority of Americans act like a herd of cattle or a horde of lemmings.”
“Delusional Americans all over the country believed in the new internet paradigm… You would think that average Americans would have learned their lesson after this experience. They did not.”
“Based on all available evidence, it seems the American public wants to be misled. They have chosen ignorance over knowledge and understanding.”
“America resembles a 40 year old aging baseball icon with two bad knees, a pot belly, receding hairline and delusions that he is still the ball player he was at 24. He doesn’t realize that his skills are shot, as he flails at curveballs in the dirt thrown by 21 year old kids. The rest of the league knows he is washed up, but he refuses to accept reality.”
“The American herd has gone mad. A few people have regained their senses, but the vast majority still exhibits the behavior of sheep being led to slaughter.”

You still won’t answer my question. Why are you avoiding it? Your free trade argument is closer to Reverse Engineer then Newt (Noam Chomsky! I can’t believe it). At least you guys can both agree on the evils of capitalism. This has nothing to do with political parties – how is restricting free trade going to benefit our nation, and how is that not at odds with your libertarian ‘ideals’?

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  Daniel
August 16, 2010 11:28 am

Daniel

Did you ask a question? I didn’t notice. You can continue to believe you live in a country that has free markets and that is not being raped and pillaged by mega corporations supported by criminal Wall St bankers and crooked Republican and Democratic politicians. You remain one of the sheeple. What country do you live in. Do you ever go out into the world and observe? Evidently not. Your comfortable in your little Republican beliefs that America is the shining beacon on the hill.

Your delusion is so complete that you think the US should attack Iran to protect your beloved Israel from another false threat. Watch out for those bogeymen behind every bush Daniel. Keep giving away your liberty for protection.

Usually you don’t enter the fray without your wingman Freesmith. It looks like I really pissed you off with this article. I know I’m firing on all cylinders when I can get the neo-con apologists like yourself into a lather.

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  Daniel
August 16, 2010 11:33 am

Daniel

Sorry for the slowness of the site today. The article has gone viral on the web. My site is being overloaded with visitors. Google the name of the article and you will get 6 pages of links. Zero Hedge has over 400 comments on the article. It appears that there are a few Americans who have awoken from their stupor. You don’t appear to be one of them.

Ethan Allen
Ethan Allen
August 16, 2010 11:09 am

Excellent piece overall however I must insist we can reverse course and regain real economic growth in the States.

First we have to end control of our money by the private Federal Reserve banks. The US dollar is a fiat currency so why is the US in growing perpetual debt? Because the US Treasury prints Treasury Bills & Notes it has to to sell to the private Fed in order to get dollars, so every new dollar printed is a debt instrument.

Second we must repeal both GATT and NAFTA. Repealing both would begin the return of domestic mfg. to the States.

Third we must demand that ALL TARP funds, which are not $800 billion as incorrectly mentioned in this article but well over $21 trillion be returned immediately. This money which has been secretly allocated to banks without disclosure should then be applied to pay off every mortgage and credit card balance in the US. This would not only help real people but also help strengthen banks that want to operate honestly. We must revere the planned concentration of money in the hands of the top 4 or so banks.

GodSend
GodSend
August 16, 2010 11:43 am

Could it be that Jim Quinn is not a Zionist Shill, after all?! His latest comment to that Republican Zionist Israel-loving Daniel (“Your delusion is so complete that you think the US should attack Iran to protect your beloved Israel from another false threat.”) is VERY encouraging! 🙂

Jim, I apologize if I wrongly accused you of being a Zionist Shill and secret lover of the Satanic State of Israel (“New Khazaria”) – and its sayanim and katsa agents throughout America!

The Republican and Democratic parties are nothing more than the 2 sides of the same Zionist Party coin (shekel) which is being dumped on the American (voting) sheeple!

Daniel, I suggest you exercise your “Right of Return” while you are still at liberty to do so.

Daniel
Daniel
August 16, 2010 11:46 am

Jim, You didn’t piss me off, and I have no idea what this has to do with Iran or the GOP for that matter. You blather on about lemmings and the damage of free trade. You were being incoherent and textbook leftist and I pointed it out. You then (predictably) lash out about something not related. How about more Milton Friedman and less Noam Chomsky so I won’t have to publicly spank you in front of your loyal worshipers, who more and more these days sound like the sheep you rail against.

As far as my bogeymen – you are the blogger that posts about Wall Street hucksters, oligarchs, elitists, conspiracies, secret societies. There is a common error conspiracy theorists make: they see the world as ill-informed, led, sheep. Only they and “a select few” know “the truth”, and they will be forever frustrated by their inability to lift the veil from “the masses”.

The enemy is not hidden, and there is no big secret – limit government, control spending, reform the system and educate a new generation of Americans on the wisdom of our Constitution.

To be honest, I did invite Freesmith for a laugh. Jim, haven’t you learned yet – I can’t leave you all warm and fuzzy in your comfort zone. We can still be friends. Stop attacking your natural allies – the conservatives.

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  Daniel
August 16, 2010 12:10 pm

Daniel

Yeah I did piss you off.

“The American herd has gone mad.” Your rage and hatred of your fellow countrymen is disconcerting. You claim to be a patriot, but turn on your countrymen with such vitriol and anger, one might mistake you for a Penn college professor.”

You are evidently a little slow on the comprehension scale as you seem to equate globalization with free trade. Your reaction is the usual Republican monkey like response of FREE TRADE GOOD. These tired old platitudes are no longer believed by those of us who chose to think rather than operate using slogans. The slogans of the right and left are great propaganda for the non-thinking masses. There I go again.

Your immediate Pavlovian response to a quote from Chomsky reveals your true character. Us versus Them. Despite the fact that he has hit upon a truth, you scorn the messenger of the truth. I know it is difficult for you to see the truth laid out in front of you so clearly and you chose to not acknowledge the facts. Delusion is difficult to overcome.

Your slogans (limit government, control spending, reform the system, educate a new generation) are so very comforting to you. Why do we need to educate a new generation of Americans on the wisdom of the Constitution? Aren’t they already educated? They couldn’t be ignorant masses, could they?

I will continue to speak the truth. You can stay deluded in your conservative vs liberal talking points. Newt in 2012!!!!

GodSend
GodSend
August 16, 2010 12:27 pm

To those of you who are sick and tired of the Dueling Duo (Jim and Daniel), I suggest you move on to discovering what is really tearing America to pieces behind the scenes and behind the BS being flung at you daily by the Zionist-controlled MSM and Zionist Shills who masquerade as cyberspace economic bloggers. The truth is readily available for those who have eyes to SEE! – just click on my name on this comment (GodSend) and be prepared for SHOCK & AWE!

Daniel
Daniel
August 16, 2010 12:36 pm

I did notice the site was snail slow. Perhaps you should hire some Chinese developers from you computer science program? 🙂

Any Noam Chomsky quote should be taken within the true context of his politics – socialism, statism. The quote you inserted actively attacks investors and lenders. Are these particular investors you and I or the vaulted “elites”?

OK, I say Free Trade = Good. You say, I’m blinded or ignorant. Tell me then, what is the solution then? What regulations, laws, controls, and various centralized management efforts would you put in place to squash it? I prefer to get gov’t out of the equation so currency and tariffs are minimal considerations. I keep asking it. You are just bitchin’ in the wind about it. What do you propose?

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  Daniel
August 16, 2010 1:31 pm

Daniel

I propose eliminating the Federal Reserve, breaking up the 6 Too Big To Fail banks into 60 Too Small To Matter banks, outlawing corporate lobbying, eliminating the IRS, getting rid of the tax code, term limits on politicians, a balanced budget amendment, cutting the military in half, and going to a currency backed by gold, silver and a few other commodities. These solutions would put a little crimp in your desire for the US to police the world.

You must selectively read this site Daniel. I have proposed these ideas and many others put forth by smarter people than me. Just because you don’t like the solutions I propose, doesn’t equate to not having solutions.

Here was an article of solutions DANIEL. You might not like them, but tough shit. Get your own fucking website called The Everything is Alright Platform.

http://theburningplatform.com/blog/2010/07/22/why-we-need-a-3rd-party-in-2012/

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  Daniel
August 16, 2010 1:42 pm

Daniel

My tech guy is in India. Globalization is good.

In case you hadn’t seen my article on my natural allies, here you go:

http://theburningplatform.com/blog/2010/07/22/why-you-shouldnt-vote-republican-in-2012/

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  Daniel
August 16, 2010 1:46 pm

Email sent to me by a reader on another site:

I’d offer up for your list of mass delusions a few others that I feel are equally significant from a societal standpoint:

Super ultra delusion numero uno: “Kids don’t learn to be violent/slutty/inappropriate from watching TV or video games featuring the same”. This is the purest example of cognitive dissonance you will ever hear. Anyone with a brain knows that kids absolutely, from the day they are born, learn their place in the world by mimicking. And if you put a kid in front of a TV or Xbox 6 hours a day and show them gang and gun violence, THIS IS WHAT THEY WILL DO! And the proof of that is our current reality. But of course the TV is the delivery vehicle for so many delusions so we can’t have people resistant to it can we?

And what about the 40 hour workweek? You’ve shown that once Americans HAVE money they squander it or give it away willingly but unwittingly to thieves. But what about how they make it? I commute to work every day 30 miles. I see incompetent people who cannot even grasp the rules of driving, completely on autopilot, and trudging en masse to what is effectively adult daycare. I work for a leading edge biotech company. Yet even here between the coddling, political kowtowing, and decision driven datamaking, I feel that 90% of our workforce is just here being babysat. They get to make up their own goals, then get a nice pat on the head if they accomplish 2 whole mundane tasks in 6 months. I have had many jobs, all with the “best/leading” companies in their respective fields, and all I see are adult children with no real drive, no real creativity, and no ambition beyond getting checking a few mundane tasks off a checklist so they can get today’s gold star and be a “contributor” in their own minds. Then it’s back to Facebook.

This is why perhaps the greatest delusion of all is that we are a productive people. I witnessed Firestone tire’s legendary breaking of the Rubber Workers’ Union growing up in Akron Ohio. For literally years, fat, unkempt, poorly groomed men sat on the side of the road, leaning against walls and newspaper boxes lazily waving signs demanding premium wages, benefits, spotless factories, and of course lots of paid days off. And none of them was enterprising enough to just go pursue a different better job. They were willing to waste years of their life waving signs demanding something they didn’t deserve from someone who wasn’t going to give it to them. And they didn’t even have the motivation to stand up straight to do it. It was the picture of shame. If we ever brought all those outsourced jobs back from China, they wouldn’t get done as well if at all. We are delusional for thinking we are our parents and grandparents children. We’re not. We have become a lazy, weak minded mob of entitled freeloaders waiting to be lied to because it’s just easier that way. Any belief to the contrary is the greatest delusion of all. Sad but true.

Thanks for your article. Good to know there are a few thinking minds scattered amongst the wasteland…

Daniel
Daniel
August 16, 2010 1:11 pm

Jim – I purchased an end-table at Ikea yesterday. I asked them if they knew Jim Q and the guy said, “yeah, I know that dude. He got fired for stealing.”

🙂

Daniel
Daniel
August 16, 2010 2:13 pm

Jim Q,

Always the diplomat! Lighten up Francis.

I get it now! Free trade, but only in the US. If I want to buy a TV made in Asia, I’m outta luck.

Jim, I actually think some of the ideas you listed were decent. None of those solutions however would resolve labor force transfer (my original point to you). Some might run up with the constitution (like outlawing you or I being able to lobby our elected official), You can’t expect I’ll read everything you write. I do read selectively, and when I see something that doesn’t add up, I call you on it. If you don’t like it, don’t run a blog. Don’t get all thin-skinned on me.

3rd party? Good grief! The sure-fire recipe for liberal rule! Fat chance. At least you are guaranteed to have a place in anger for your blog. Forever disenfranchised. In the end, that just tactics anyhow. We’ve already done that dance.

Daniel

PS. I see all the usual nuts are back. Tell Senator Russo (“GodSend”) to peddle his crap and his link-away somewhere else. I came back for a visit and somebody let the bigots loose.

GodSend
GodSend
August 16, 2010 2:42 pm

Please note that the Burning Platform is populated by around 6,000,000 innocent Jews (including a few hundred guilty Zionists) . Pretty soon, that Burning Platform is gonna consume all who are standing on it – guilty or innocent! Check out the “Museum of Tolerance” for the meaning of that prophecy.

Daniel, I’m not kidding about your “Right of Return”! All the clever Jews in Nazi Germany exercised it BEFORE TSHTF. OK, some of them got sidetracked to America and Canada (NYC, Miami, LA, Toronto, etc.).

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  GodSend
August 16, 2010 3:17 pm

GodSend

No one wants to read your racist bullshit. Go back to your cave.

Stelios Theoharidis
Stelios Theoharidis
August 16, 2010 2:43 pm

Lets see how many delusions can I list:

Buying more consumer goods will make you happier. Men like super-skinny women. Rational behavior in general. Diamonds are valuable. The last oil price spike was not a speculative bubble. The Latin American currency crisis did not make a number of US banks completely insolvent in the early part of the 90s. Early western industrial expansion happened through industrialization and not on the backs of cheap resources from third world countries. US post-war growth happened because of US exceptionalism and not because of the utterly decimated industrial sector in every other developed country in the world. US entry into Vietnam was provoked. We have not destabilized a number of third world countries in order to pave the way for US corporations which has resulted in blowback. Marriage traditionally had something to do with a man and a woman and not horse trading and political arrangements. Money has value other than what we agree to confer to it. Most epidemics are not caused by the fact that we have domesticated animals and diseases jump from them into humans. There is no cancer epidemic in the USA. The notion of a “global warming hoax” is not a public relations stunt with front organizations and paid scientists. On the converse you can’t off-shore green jobs and there isn’t a bubble in clean technology venture capital because VCs thought it was the same model as the dotcom boom. Rational self-interested behavior amongst multiple individuals will result in the best outcomes. There is no ‘iron law of oligarchy” and differences in power and capital accumultion are not self-reinforcing. Upward mobility isn’t lower in the USA than in Europe. There isn’t a greater intra-“race” genetic difference than the inter-“race” genetic difference. Homosexual behaviors are not present throughout the different animal kingdoms. They are trying to build a mosque on ground zero. Social security is insolvent. The minerals extraction and nuclear industries aren’t heavily subsidized by the government. Free markets exist. The top .1% don’t have the lowest effective tax rate due to reliance on capital gains. The Chinese economy is strong and not another speculative bubble. Rich people in developed countries don’t completely abuse their poorer counterparts based upon ethnic and religious relations. Social security, unemployment, and welfare weren’t first passed as an attempt to keep the US population from revolting. Millions of poor mexicans didn’t stream into the US after NAFTA utterly destroy rural peasant agriculture in that country.

We haven’t been piling onto one delusion after another for the history of humanity see build a pyramid for your king sun god, divine right of kings, religious wars for aristocratic gain, shes a witch, infalibility of the pope, the sun circles the earth…ect….ect

Nothing has changed it just a sequence of delusions.

GodSend
GodSend
August 16, 2010 3:30 pm

Jim

I believe you are a SLY Zionist Shill, after all! Pretty soon, my “racist bullshit” will be all over your face! Bon appetit!

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  GodSend
August 16, 2010 4:05 pm

Godsend

Go fuck yourself, you lowlife piece of shit.

You’ve joined our other resident nutjob conspiracy theorist David Pierre on the blacklist.

You should be proud. It is extremely difficult to get on this list. Only the craziest racist motherfuckers can make it. Well done!!!

Diane
Diane
August 16, 2010 3:36 pm

Indeed, the fool hath said in his heart, there is no God– Psalm 1:53.

By nature, man hates God and his neighbor, as evidenced by the vile curses and language used when people disagree with each other on this forum, for example. The hatred that burns in their hearts as they complain of their “fate,” under this policy or that circumstance, this politician or that corporation comes across in their speech. For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringth forth evil things. But I (God) saith unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgement. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned. Matthew: 12:34-37

Why should we complain against God and His judgments upon the world, when ALL have sinned and come (fall) short of the glory of God? (Romans 3:23) We deserve nothing but eternal damnation. That God has given time to repent, is nothing but pure mercy! We were created for ONE purpose only, which is to glorify God, and be His image bearers (Genesis 1:26.) By nature, man does neither. Since the fall of Adam in the garden of Eden, man has sought only to glorify himself. live independently from his Creator, and be a law unto himself. Instead of submitting himself to the laws of his most glorious, wise and loving Creator, he has believed Satan’s lies. Thinking he is free from God’s rule, man has enslaved himself through sin to Satan. If he does not repent and take refuge in the substitutionary life and death of Jesus Christ, he will earn his wages (eternal death) along with his evil taskmaster.

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; (suppress what they know in their hearts to be true)

Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath showed it unto them. For the invisible things of HIm from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal Godhead; so that they are without excuse (rebellious humanity refuses to acknowledge his Creator, even though all of creation screams there is an intelligent Designer, but God will hold them accountable for what they clearly should know).

Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves wise they became fools…..who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature (ourselves, money, anything other than the true God) more than the Creator…..for this cause God gave them up to vile affections…..and even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind…. being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness, full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malignity, whispers, backbiters, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgement of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death….Romans 1:18-32

For we know Him that hath said, VENGEANCE BELONGTH UNTO ME, I WILL RECOMPENSE, saith the Lord. And again, THE LORD SHALL JUDGE HIS PEOPLE. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Hebrews 9: 30-31

For the Lord thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God. Deuteronomy 4:20

And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened…..and they were judged every man according to their works…..And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Revelation 20:12-13, 15

And it is appointed unto man once to die, but after this the judgement. Hebrews 9:27

For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life, through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 6:23

The Lord Jesus Christ repeats in Luke, chapter 13, verses 3 and 5, “I tell you, Nay: but , except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.”

Mr. Quinn, God, in His infinite mercy, HAS intervened into our MASS DELUSION. He has spoken through His prophets (think Old Testament) and in these last days He has spoken through His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ (think New Testament.)

For God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through Him might be saved. He that believeth on HIm is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that Light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than Light, because their deeds were evil. John 3: 17-19

This then is the message which we have heard of Him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in Him, is no darkness at all. 1 John 1:5

He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life: but the wrath of God abideth on him. John 3:36

Don’t like all of the above? Here is God’s reply to you: Nay, but O man who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to Him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay……. Romans 9:20

Who hath directed the Spirit of the Lord, or being his counsellor hath taught Him? With whom took He counsel, and who instructed Him, and taught Him in the path of judgement , and taught him knowledge, and showed to Him the way of understanding? Behold, the nations are as a drop of a bucket, and are counted as the small dust of the balance…..All nations before him are as nothing; and less than nothing, and vanity. To whom then will ye liken God? or what likeness will ye compare Him? Isaiah 40: 13-18

It is He that sitteth upon the circle of the earth (we didn’t need Columbus to know the earth was round!) and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers…..That bringth the princes to nothing; He maketh the judges of earth as vanity (emptiness)…..To whom then will ye liken Me, or shall I be equal? Saith the Holy One. Isaiah 40:22-25

And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed (to be considered) as nothing: and He doeth according to His will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay (stop) His hand, or say unto Him, what doest thou? Daniel 4:35

Remember this, and show yourselves men: bring it again to mind, O ye transgressors (of His holy law, the ten commandments) Remember the former things of old (worldwide flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, etc): for I am God, and there is none like Me. Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done saying, My council shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure. Isaiah 40: 9-10

For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whomsoever shall believe on Him, shall not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16

HOW SHALL WE ESCAPE, IF WE NEGLECT SO GREAT SALVATION…..Hebrews 2:3

Nonananymous
Nonananymous
August 16, 2010 5:16 pm

Just posting my website, maybe generate some traffic. Will have to start cross posting to Zero Hedge if your servers can’t keep up:)

I found you again this morning on naked capitalism. Gotta love Google Reader! Keep up the good work! Oh, wait, was that too positive?

Frank
Frank
August 16, 2010 5:36 pm

Great article. One minor point, the Salem witch trials were instigated by the Lutenant Govenor of Massachusetts colony to try to break the power of the colony’s democratic institutions. A new king had taken the throne in England to replace King James Stewart of King James Bible fame. King James had also written a book on witchcraft and the Salem witch trials were an attempt to use his techniques to break the colony and impose royal rule. The trials ended when enough precident of injustice had been created that the governor’s own wife was put in jepardy.

Gaffer
Gaffer
August 16, 2010 5:48 pm

Are we mass-deluded sheeple? The most current Gallup presidential approval poll puts Obama at 44% approval. Which means 44% are clearly either deluded sheeple or in on the scam. All they need is trick/bribe another 6.000001% and they stay in power. That’s why they don’t care about unemployment rates – this is where they hope to buy that 6.000001% with generous UE benefits. The Free Shit Army is on the marh!!

Smokey
Smokey
August 16, 2010 7:21 pm

Administrator—-Davis Pierre pulled this same shit a couple of weeks ago on ZH, telling the bloggers that you and I are the same. Of course, the lie was transparent and everyone on ZH knew he was lying, and several posters even told him so. That deranged fucker is so eaten up with that 9/11 conspiracy shit that it is sad. If he slanders you much more, it would not surprise me if he gets his ass booted off Tyler Durden’s site also. That is one sick puppy.

Administrator
Administrator
  Smokey
August 16, 2010 8:26 pm

Smokey

Admit it. You are me.

Smokey
Smokey
August 16, 2010 7:33 pm

Reverse Engineer—–You and I are destined for a showdown. I cut you plenty of slack over on TBP #1, but I have no intention of EVER giving you the benefit of the doubt over here. I am one bad motherfucker. Cross me over here and you will rue the day we met. Ponder carefully anything before you post it here, because it doesn’t take much to piss me off. Until then.

Nomad
Nomad
August 16, 2010 8:04 pm

Gaffer

I’ve enjoyed your posts in the past and I would request in all seriousness for you to tell me how things will change for the better if we do get this incompetent President out of office only to replace him with another individual who will most likely still be another parties shill. Only the next time the cash will not have to take such a circular route through the welfare armies to get to corporate Americas coffers. I’m serious, how do we improve our position by electing anyone representing either major party? What difference does it make if Obama and the Dems. screw us, or if Neocon Newt gets in and screws us? I’m asking for help and would appreciate a honest response.
And to the guys who went on the pious rants about the salvation creeds. If I’m not mistaken their main spokesman said some 2000 years ago, “Verily I say to you, there be some standing here, which shall not taste death, til they see the son of man coming in his kingdom.” They died and no one came back, so why are we still debating this issue?

Nomad
Nomad
August 16, 2010 8:12 pm

Sorry for the extra post, but I waited ten minutes and nothing showed up!

Gaffer
Gaffer
August 16, 2010 8:18 pm

Nomad,

I don’t think even the greatest leader can fix the problems of a country filled with frivolous, narcissistic fools. Conversely, a country of strong, resourceful, enterprising people with values won’t need much leadership as they will solve their own problems. I’m still trying to figure out where we are on this spectrum. I agree about Neocon Newt and would rather have 4 more years of Obama than another neocon.

Personally, I’m fighting to avoid the conclusion that it may be too late to save this pig. Even if we get a leader who’ll tell the Free Shit Army to fuck off, the media will crucify him and, way WAY too many Republicans within the 66% who disapprove of Obama like their free shit too!

LLPOH
LLPOH
August 16, 2010 8:36 pm

Admin – at least I find some of DP’s stuff amusing. Godsend, on the other hand, just pissed me off. Good riddance.

SSS
SSS
August 16, 2010 8:55 pm

Admin

Great post. Enjoyed it.

My marijuana post got hit with skim milk and bananas. That’s nothing compared to this post’s anti-Semitic rants from GodSend and the bible lesson from Diane.

The duel you had with Daniel (welcome back, Daniel) was classic. Reverse Engineer checked in, too. Smokey issued a stern warning to RE. There’s blood in the water.

Just to spice things up even further, I’m working on another article entitled “Trapping Hummingbirds. How to Cut Your Cat Food Bill in Half.”

Administrator
Administrator
  SSS
August 16, 2010 9:08 pm

SSS

Did you like my secret photos from your peach festival?

SSS
SSS
August 16, 2010 9:25 pm

Yes, but the photo of Maxwell Smart and the photo of the baby covering its face were tops.

I didn’t like the fact that your agents followed me to the Peach Festival. My wife and I were with our 16-year-old granddaughter. Both of them saw several men wearing hats, suglasses, and trench coats following us around in 100 degree heat. They scared them. Shame on you.

Diane
Diane
August 16, 2010 9:48 pm

Nomad,

If one looks at the beginning of the chapter of Scripture you quoted, you will note that the disciples had asked the Lord when and what would be the signs of the destruction of the temple. The Lord describes the then future destruction of the temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. Truly a powerful display of God’s judgement on the unbelievers of that city. The temple and it’s sacrifices were no longer needed. The One to Whom all the animal sacrifices pointed, Jesus, the Lamb of God had already come.

His kingdom is not of this world (John 18:36), but is set up in the hearts of His people when they are spiritually born again (literally from above) by the regeneration and indwelling of God, the Holy Spirit (John 3), for without this work of Grace, all are dead (spiritually) in trespasses and sins. Ephesians 2:1

Being spiritually dead, an unbeliever cannot understand spiritual Truth.

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1st Corinthians 2:14

Their attitude is predicted and described by the Apostle Peter.

Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep (died) all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. 2nd Peter 3:3-4

The Apostle goes on to say that this was the same attitude of the antediluvians in Noah’s day. The Lord predicts it will be as in the days of Noah before his return. Matthew 24:39-39 By the way, the ark is a type or figure of the Lord Jesus Christ. Only those who will be found “in Him” by faith will survive the terrible day of the Lord’s wrath.

For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written the just (those that will be found not guilty) shall live by faith. Romans 1: 17

LLPOH
LLPOH
August 16, 2010 10:30 pm

Diane -what is your point? Can you make it without the quotes?

Nomad
Nomad
August 16, 2010 11:48 pm

Gaffer

Once again thank you for your considered response. It is comforting to know there are other ‘seekers of a more sensible way” coming along on this journey. I look forward to reading more of your posts.

Gemini
Gemini
August 17, 2010 12:00 am

That was a great article, though I miss your usual pop culture themes and additions.
If econ 101 was a mandatory high school course the country would be a very different place today….

Administrator
Administrator
  Gemini
August 17, 2010 8:03 am

Gemini

The next article is centered solely around the Talking Heads song Nothing But Flowers.

Diane
Diane
August 17, 2010 12:02 am

LLPOH,

In my last post, I was responding to a comment by Nomad relative to my earlier post. My first post was in response to earlier posts about the nature and existence of God, including Mr. Quinn’s comment that he hoped God would “intervene into our mass delusion.” My point is that God has done exactly that in the Incarnation. That is, God the Father sent His only begotten Son, who condescended to take upon human flesh, dwell among us to reveal God the Father to us, render unto His father the perfect obedience we each owe Him in our place, suffer and die as a propitiation for the sins of those that His Father had given Him, and the application of this vicarious atonement being applied by God, the Holy Spirit to the hearts of God’s elect. The quotes were to verify that this is God’s Word, not mine. There are Scriptural references for all of the above, as well. Though being an unbeliever for 35 years, I am fully aware that the Bible means nothing to an unbeliever. Yet a believer is to be a witness for the Lord Jesus Christ, and preach the Gospel to every creature. It is up to the sovereign good pleasure of God, who will receive His Word as Truth, obey the Gospel, and be saved, and who will be left in his trespasses and sins, which is what we all deserve.

Another point I may make is that the affairs of this world will seem very inconsequential on one’s deathbed. This life is very fleeting. We each have a never- dying soul. Eternity is a long time to regret that one’s priorities were misplaced. Redeem the time, for the days are evil. Ephesians 5:16

Reverse Engineer
Reverse Engineer
August 17, 2010 12:53 am

Smokey, I haved no idea who you are, nor do i have any intention of “crossing you” on this website. I responded to JimQs diatribe, that iis all. When you writ something completly stupid, I might drop on a comment, but so far that has not happenned. I just showed up here to let Jim know I am not dead yet. If you want to confront me, hit me on Reverse Engineering. I’m not going to play games with you on Jim’s website.

RE

Derek
Derek
August 17, 2010 3:53 am

The United States has been meticulously targeted, infiltrated, and subverted in a gradual process – by a certain world maritime and financial power whose representative, Admiral Howe, held phony “peace talks” with Ben Franklin and John Adams on Sept. 11, 1776 on Staten Island in New York Harbor: where the revolutionaries were invited to rescind their recent Declaration of Independence. In 1814, this foreign power set the White House ablaze. Now we hear endless propaganda about a “special relationship” that exists between the two nations: and indeed, it is “special”. Curious readers will find it enlightening to examine the text of Cecil Rhodes’ will (which established scholarships for such future luminaries as Bill Clinton and Franklin Raines); then to reflect on the ramifications of this will’s mandate as it relates to the Jeffersonian republic, and ask themselves why an outfit called “Crown Agents” has an office in Washington, DC.

llpoh
llpoh
August 17, 2010 6:30 am

Derek – Did you forget your meds? Or take one too many of something? Crackpot conspiracy theories really aren’t helpful to these debates.

Nonananymous
Nonananymous
August 17, 2010 7:52 am

Nomad,

Mine is not a pious rant about salvation creed. There is no hope in the world. Everything that has been written here is proof enough of that. Our hope comes from above. If you want to call that a salvation creed, so be it, but I don’t see anyone else here offering any words of encouragement.

“Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord” (Psalm 33:12). The converse of that is also true. You asked for help knowing which way to turn. I perfectly understand that. I’m offering it. Whether you accept what I say is entirely up to you. Please see my post in response to Jim Q’s DEBT TRAIN IN THE TUNNEL for a discussion of why it’s important for our nation to set a different course than the only we’re currently on.

Why are we still debating the efficacy and reality of God’s word? Why, indeed!

Daniel
Daniel
August 17, 2010 8:15 am

Jim, How about Psycho Killer instead?

Administrator
Administrator
  Daniel
August 17, 2010 8:49 am

Daniel

That is a future article about David Pierre.

Administrator
Administrator
  Daniel
August 17, 2010 8:50 am

Daniel

I’ll try to make the next article as hate filled as possible.

Robmu1
Robmu1
August 17, 2010 9:32 am

Daniel – good to see you again…how’s it going?

Daniel
Daniel
August 17, 2010 1:53 pm

Rob, Doing well. 3rd kid due in Oct. Its getting interesting. I had to put in my 2 cents. I mean, if reverse eng is back, what hope do you guys have without me? You need somebody here to represent FOX News!

Did you ever buy that place on the NJ shore?

Reverse Engineer
Reverse Engineer
August 17, 2010 2:37 pm

I’m not really “back”. Cameo appearance 🙂

RE

SSS
SSS
August 17, 2010 2:54 pm

RE

Stick around for a while. I want to see you and Smokey get into it.

Robmu1
Robmu1
August 17, 2010 2:57 pm

Daniel – the 3rd kid is the one that makes you look at jumping from the bridge as a possible exit strategy – best of luck. RE is here to pontificate and allow us someone to scorn until David Pierre shows his ugly, stupid ass. I did not buy a place at the shore – despite Jim’s multiple real estate collapse warnings, Sea Isle prices haven’t budged. I did do the kitchen though – it makes you realize why contractors didn’t get jobs working for other people.

Reverse Engineer
Reverse Engineer
August 17, 2010 3:08 pm

Sadly, this forum format doesn’t support more than one pontificator, so I’m just returning to do some sniping 🙂

RE

Administrator
Administrator
  Reverse Engineer
August 17, 2010 5:11 pm

Reverse Engineer

If you sign up as a member, I can change your profile to a contributor and you can post whatever you like, just like my old site.

SSS just had one of the most commented articles ever.

Robmu1
Robmu1
August 17, 2010 3:17 pm

Cha-ching…good work RE. Do you know David Pierre?

Reverse Engineer
Reverse Engineer
August 17, 2010 3:33 pm

Only by his reputation, and he occassionally gives me a High Five when he reads something I write which matches his perspective. I haven’t actually read any of his stuff, so I am not sure exactly why he is the object of so much oprobrium? I gather that the general consensus is that he is a Communist?

RE

Anonymous
Anonymous
August 17, 2010 4:04 pm

Reverse Engineer says:

“Sadly, this forum format doesn’t support more than one pontificator,”

Pardon my curiosity , but what happened to your posting over at RD?
It went out like a light.

BTW …..turns out my idea of a Louisiana Doomstead wasn’t such a great idea after all.
Good to see you posting somewhere.
I can’t say I agree with all your views on Capitalism/ Free Markets , but I do respect your view and enjoyed reading your posts.

Reverse Engineer
Reverse Engineer
August 17, 2010 4:15 pm

I had a few “disagreements” with TPB on RD regarding how the site was being managed. The disagreements led to my progressive demotion on the site from Featured Writer with Admin priviledges to Persona Non-Grata. LOL. I elected to bow out of writing for that website as a result.

RE

Robmu1
Robmu1
August 17, 2010 4:42 pm

RE –

Nobody would care if he was just a Communist. He is a draft-dodging weasel, a bonehead 9/11 Truther jackass who does nothing but steal other people’s stuff and post it as his own. On ZeroHedge, he lifted an entire post of mine and just changed a few names and posted it as his own. The guy is one of the most loathsome individuals you’ll ever come across. Thus, the near total acrimony you see for DP is well-earned.

Cynical30
Cynical30
August 17, 2010 4:43 pm

Good read Jim.

Call me cynical, but I really do think you hit the nail on the head here, and your point was definitely corroborated well by Stuck’s axioms. We are totally ruled by the desire to be carried on someone else’s back. We deify higher powers in hopes that they will be shining beacons that will lead us out of our times of distress. Then we are crushed by the cognitive dissonance inflicted by the failure of these leaders (God, Lebron James, the Kenyan in Chief, ad nauseum) to meet our individual needs in all of their Massianic glory. I’m admittedly a little young to the game, as I was raised by Boomers, but I’m truly curious: has this country always been like this? Just like Stuck said, we pride ourselves on our “rugged individuality” as a nation, but more and more it seems to me like we’re an amalgamation of pussies jammed between Canada and Mexico. Whenever anything goes wrong, candy ass liberals and chickenhawk “conservatives” scream bloody murder for the Feds to wave their magic wand (it’s made out of $100,000,000,000 in bills of our tax dollars rolled up and glued with sparkles) and make it all better. Even though all of their solutions leave is with less rights, less wealth and that much closer to default.
Before I go on an angry rant, I really want to pose a couple questions to you good folks who frequent this and other sites that take off the spin filter:

General question:

Do you really think that the sedated masses in this country will ever have cause and motivation to make any real changes? I mean other than the total non existence of cheap oil, I don’t see anything snapping folks out of the delusional world where the grocery store always has food on the shelves. I just can’t see the revolutionary spirit in the eyes of the “free shit army”. By the way, I live in Atlanta. They estimated 30,000 people in the free shit riot the other day.

Daniel:

Been reading TBP 1 long enough to know your stance on Iran, but don’t you think attacking another major oil producing nation might help catalyze some of the things i mentioned in the general questions? Iraq is producing less oil than they were before we fucked everything up in their country. How much longer do you really think the aging Islamo-grey beards are going to be able to hold onto power when demographics are clearly stacked against them? I read somewhere that Khameinei used to babysit Fidel & Raul…

Diane:

When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets: 12 Then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her.

Deuteronomy 25:11-12

Quotes are fun!

Smokey:

Choke on a fat, veiny one you fuckwad!

Smokey
Smokey
August 17, 2010 6:07 pm

RE—-To jog your feeble memory, I may have posted as neocon when I annihilated your lame, rank amateurish posts on TBP #1. Prepare for the same if you should deem it appropriate to post your sadly misguided views on this forum, which, until Cynical 30 arrived, was a platform of unrivaled integrity.

Administrator
Administrator
  Smokey
August 17, 2010 8:01 pm

Smokey

Cynical 30 just toasted your ass.

Reverse Engineer
Reverse Engineer
August 17, 2010 6:48 pm

I’ll give it some thought JIm. Clearly “Smokey” is spoiling for a fight, and such nonsense always ups the site hits, lol. However, these days I have no internet connection from the cabin, so keeping up with the online doom analysis is pretty tough. I’m on vacation at the moment down in the lower 48 and doing a little net catch up.

RE

Smokey
Smokey
August 17, 2010 9:24 pm

I’d be EMBARRASSED to launch an insult that puny. I’ll toast ass worse than that on my way to go toast some ass. Cynical 30 is not in my league.

Kill Bill
Kill Bill
August 17, 2010 9:48 pm

Do you really think that the sedated masses in this country will ever have cause and motivation to make any real changes? -=c30=-

no. politics has become a sort of football to them. they cheer for their team right or wrong and believe what a politician spouts simply because they agree with it when that politician is just saying crap to get elected and start on their career to be a duplicitous lobbyist to give the greatest return possible to those that hire them.

and given the current system of ‘tons of money’ to get elected i dont expect any changes from those pols who claim to want or make change.

Kill Bill
Kill Bill
August 17, 2010 10:06 pm

To jog your feeble memory, I may have posted as neocon -=smokey=-

so your admitting to being a troll?