SCREWED GENERATION

Does the entitlement/welfare/ warfare state benefit the Boomers or the Millenials? Has the massive consumer and government debt accumulated over the last 30 years benefitted the Boomers or the Millenials? Who will vote in massive numbers to keep the status quo? Who didn’t save enough for their retirement so they are not leaving the workforce, keeping young people out of the workforce? Who gets sent to die in wars started and managed by Boomers? During Fourth Turnings the Prophet Generation is supposed to lead and the Hero generation is supposed to follow and do the heavy lifting. Not too much leadership coming from the Prophet generation, just finger pointing, greed and blaming the youth for their own sins. Yes, Boomers have earned their reputation as the Shallowest Generation.

Older generations to the young: Drop dead

The acronym NEET first gained wide exposure last August, when riots blamed on young people “Not in Employment, Education or Training” broke out in London’s Tottenham district. It’s a useful term, particularly with youth unemployment fueling the angst over the European debt crisis.

The NEET rate among those 15 to 24 years of age is 19 percent in Italy, 18 percent in Greece and 17 percent in Spain and Ireland. In the United States, it’s almost 15 percent, according to figures compiled by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.

Urban development expert Joel Kotkin has another term for this group of young people: “The Screwed Generation.” Writing at his website NewGeography.com, Mr. Kotkin calls these young people “the victims of expansive welfare states and the massive structural debt charged by their parents.”

Mr. Kotkin has a knack for a blunt phrase. In 2004, when he was at Pepperdine University in California, he was hired by the Greater St. Louis Economic Development Council to study how St. Louis could attract young professionals and entrepreneurs. Mr. Kotkin had some useful recommendations, few of which were remembered after he told a Post-Dispatch editorial board meeting, “Your downtown sucks.”

His view of the dim prospects facing today’s young people is rooted not just in NEET numbers, but in studies that show many college graduates are struggling to find full-time employment at a living wage. One study of 444 recent graduates by the Center for Workforce Development at Rutgers University showed that only 51 percent of graduates of four-year colleges between 2006 and 2011 had found full-time employment. Twenty percent had gone back to graduate or professional school, but the rest were working part-time or not at all.

Data from the 2010 census show the number of unemployed young people, age 16 to 29, declined 18 percent between 2000 and 2010 to its lowest point since World War II. Nearly 6 million Americans aged 25 to 34 are living with their parents, up 25 percent since 2007. Among families with heads of household younger than 30, the the poverty rate was 37 percent.

Ninety-four percent of them came out of college carrying at least some debt; the median debt load for graduates of public universities was $18,690. It was $24,460 for private university graduates.

It’s not just that companies have been slow to expand, it’s that older workers are staying on the job longer, working at least until full Social Security and Medicaid benefits become available. These are benefits that young people will be taxed for (assuming they get work) but, given long-term budget outlooks, may not be available in 40 years.

And not only are older Americans hogging the jobs and the benefits, they’re voting in large numbers against changing the calculus. Having enjoyed the benefits of post-war prosperity, many older Americans don’t want to pay the debts they’ve incurred, much less preserve benefits, repair the infrastructure or fix global warming.

Screwed is right.

In the 2008 presidential election, record numbers of 18- to 24-year-old voters turned out at the polls. They may not match that 49 percent turnout this year. Their elders vote at rates of up to 70 percent.

It’s easy to understand why America’s NEETs and debt-burdened college graduates would be disenchanted with politics. But they really can’t afford to take the year off.

Read more: http://www.stltoday.com/news/opinion/columns/the-platform/editorial-older-generations-to-the-young-drop-dead/article_68af2bc2-55be-5273-802c-972fc54cde72.html#ixzz1xIkNqnPa

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Colma Rising
Colma Rising
June 16, 2012 6:50 pm

Any other Boomers to demolish, like Alpha Chris does when he’s getting a gummy and the keys to the jeep?

This shit can go to 600+ without even being on the main post board.

AWD
AWD
June 16, 2012 6:50 pm

At least you can get out on the ocean.

All I got is lakes, the missip, and two ton heifers.

AWD
AWD
June 16, 2012 6:56 pm

Colmes: Get to Hawaii, it’s paradise. really

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Lived and surfed there for two years. Best two years of my life.

Colma Rising
Colma Rising
June 16, 2012 7:09 pm

I’m starting to entertain it…

I always used to say when I was in my early 20’s that if I ended up in a rat-race here and I felt like I was treading water I’d just move there and tread water.

I need to find someone who needs a groundskeeper for their estate… I can do some mean security if need be…. keep those dirty-footed fruit-thieves and jealousy-raged mawhaos at bay.

If there’s a boomer who has an estate in such need, I’ll take it all back!

matt
matt
June 16, 2012 7:40 pm

This thread is like Dick Cheney..it just wont fucking die!!!

Colma Rising
Colma Rising
June 16, 2012 7:48 pm

Administrator just HAD to pull it out of the WordPress dumper again:

So enough of this drooling and birdwatching in the islands.

The question, posted in bold face:

Exactly WHO is getting these benefts?

Exactly WHO will pay for them?

Man up, boomers. Time to cut the credit card up and admit you’re unable, as a generation, to handle much other than spouting bullshit slogans, half-assed. Philosophy and mouth-fulls of twinkies, pasta salad and hot air.

This, as SSS would dare say, is FACT

Llpoh
Llpoh
June 16, 2012 7:51 pm

Ragdouche – where are you? I haven’t forgotten you, rest assured. I notice you apologized to Admin. you are a pussy. A cowardly pussy. Shoot your mouth off and then run away. No wore we didn’t win in Nam.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
June 16, 2012 7:52 pm

AWD, Sao kisse moolay ufa, backla

Llpoh
Llpoh
June 16, 2012 7:52 pm

“no wonder” last sentence above.

Colma Rising
Colma Rising
June 16, 2012 8:09 pm

What would you say if you had to pay $120,000 as a share of the national debt?

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Alpha Chris
Alpha Chris
June 16, 2012 8:21 pm

I will take boomers all day…..they gettin what they got a comin. And I take jeeps too…

Alpha Chris
Alpha Chris
June 16, 2012 8:24 pm

We need to get some more X’ers in the Congress and tighten the purse strings a bit me thinks

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
June 16, 2012 8:33 pm

slack·er (slkr)
n.
1. One who shirks work or responsibility: “In terms of their outlook on the future, slackers regard tomorrow with a studied cynicism or . . . don’t even conceive of one” (Julie Caniglia).
2. One who tries to evade military service in wartime; a draft dodger.
3. Gen Xer.

Llpoh
Llpoh
June 16, 2012 9:25 pm

BTW – would someone please tell me what the fuck this thread is supposed to be about? I lost track about 450 posts ago.

Right now I can only remember that ragdouche called me out to play ( for no discernable reason, I might add) then ran home to mommy before he got sand kicked in his face. Come on out, ragdouche. You can’t hide behind mommy’s apron forever.

Hell, and SAH seems to have left the building. The slapping I gave her on the main thread re her isolationist beliefs must have been the last straw.

DPZ may have to be a surrogate for ragdouche. I have shown him mercy but haven’t forgotten he is a conspiracy theorist.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
June 16, 2012 9:36 pm

Llpoh, I have never posted in here under any name but Zara or Zarathustra. As for being a conspiracy theorist, I’ll plead guilty on a few things. I’m not into the whole owl, Masonic thing but there is some pretty weird shit out there, such as the “creamation of care” ceremony at the Bohemian Grove conference that Alex Jones managed to sneak into and film.

Persnickety
Persnickety
June 16, 2012 9:45 pm

There are two main things you need to know about Bohemian Grove:

1) Who goes there (it’s a long, long list of politicians and CEOs); and
2) That Richard M. Nixon found it disgusting and repulsive.

Novista
Novista
June 16, 2012 10:38 pm

a gift for SSS

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first wave Millennial …

Colma Rising
Colma Rising
June 16, 2012 10:50 pm

We should send all the Boomers to Madagascar.

dilligaf
dilligaf
June 16, 2012 11:03 pm

good one colma!

dilligaf aka john
dilligaf aka john
June 17, 2012 12:19 am

i have switched up my moniker since flash was having trouble differentiating between the two ‘johns’, even with the obvious differences ie.- icons, writing style, age, politics, etc…. what a drag it is getttttting old….

Colma Rising
Colma Rising
June 17, 2012 12:32 am

Dilligaf:

Flash must haave washed his pasta salad down with his moonshine.

He’ll be up first thing, babbling about this or that.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
June 17, 2012 12:41 am

I surfed like a motherfucker when I was in Hawaii for a few weeks back in ’75. Sunset beach on Oahu mostly but also at Waikiki; while the waves weren’t as good there, you could jump into a beach hotel swimming pool afterwards to wash off the salt.

Other things I recall…75 cent happy hour mai tai’s at a bar on Ala Moana Blvd. I had just graduated from HS and the drinking age was 18. I took full advantage of it. I od’d on 151 rum and coke and to this day haven’t had another. I also picked up some nasty sunburn on the back of my legs from so much time paddling on a surfboard. Sunburn behind the knees really sucks. I had one scary moment when I slipped off the back of the board, which remained on the wave so I was stuck 1/2 of a mile or so from shore. I could feel the reef and discovered I was being sucked out to sea. I was in very good shape back then and managed to make it back to the beach, but I was scared until I cleared the reef.

dilligaf aka john
dilligaf aka john
June 17, 2012 1:07 am

Zarathustra says: I also picked up some nasty sunburn on the back of my legs from so much time paddling on a surfboard.

reminds me of a summer weekend, spent water ski’ing w/ jack daniels. i had sunburned water blisters on the tops of my feet and my shins. upon returning home, my mother had zero sympathy and made sure i did not back out on a prior commitment to help a neighbor buck hay. i still remember looking down at my shins, and seeing the stobs of the cut hay under my skin like 2×4 sized hypodermic needles.

dilligaf
dilligaf
June 17, 2012 1:28 am

and i must add… to my knowledge i have not touched jack daniels since either.

Colma Rising
Colma Rising
June 17, 2012 1:45 am

I used to have family and friends in Honolulu and Maui and for about ten years went there quite a bit… I even made a few weekend trips between steady girlfriends.

Much easier to surf in Waikiki…. so much fun. I love doing the tourist-with-boat drink thing.

Maui is proof that God exists (in case Muck reads this, he’ll object and tell an awesome Maui story).

Finding a cheap spot inland and gainful employment, day to day living and all that hooey… you know, seperating the vacation mentality from the grind….. That’s the kicker.

A nasty underbelly behind the leis and alohas there too.

ThePessimisticChemist
ThePessimisticChemist
June 17, 2012 1:55 am

I can’t surf for shit either.

Boogie bordin’ can be fun though.

Colma Rising
Colma Rising
June 17, 2012 2:13 am

Boogy boards are a hoot.

Now where were we? Oh yeah:

Baby boomers ruin everything, even Hawaii. I used to be able to catch a weekend plane to Honolulu and crash at my uncle’s until his wife there kicked him out for cheating.

Fool.

Colma Rising
Colma Rising
June 17, 2012 2:25 am

Now llpoh is going to come give me shit for spending a few bucks here and there on mini vacations.

Air fare on sale and a couch, I says it now.

Back to boomer thrashing tomorrow or maybe later….

The girl’s done serving those rich folk and pro golfers their mignon and Arnold Palmers… Going to mellow out and watch some Magnum PI (A story of wily boomer vets goofing off in Hawaii, btw).

Leobeer
Leobeer
June 17, 2012 4:33 am

Going back to SAH’s original post –“The whole supposed reason for aborting 23 million of our Gen X brothers, sisters, and cousins was for financial prosperity”. For financial prosperity? Of course none of those abortions were because of lack of cash to support the child. Suppose there weren’t 23m abortions? Would that not mean there would be more demand for food and gasoline? And many of those aborted would be in their 20’s now, they too would be breeding and increasing the population base. If it wasn’t for abortion and stupid wars to kill off the excess population the FSA would be even larger.

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 17, 2012 8:47 am

Tonto
you don’t have to spend your life braiding Kimosabe’s ass hair…get yourself a boat.

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flash
flash
June 17, 2012 8:52 am

AWD…please be advised..

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flash
flash
June 17, 2012 8:53 am

AWD….you’ve been warned

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Anonymous
Anonymous
June 17, 2012 10:45 am

We should send all fruits nuts and flakes to california.

O. Wait. Thats happened.

Colma Rising
Colma Rising
June 17, 2012 12:21 pm

Flashy McGraybush, having regained conciousness with a lump on the back of his head, his last memory of diving for some “pasta salad” and the creak of the toilet seat, continues his babbling.

Colma Rising
Colma Rising
June 17, 2012 12:53 pm

Novista:

I’m starting to fiend for a dive now.

In Maui they sank a ship for divers… The “Saint Anthony” I believe. The Sea Turtles gather like an under-sea council of wise elders there. It’s an average of 70 meters (or feet… big difference…. my log book is missing) and this I recall because I discovered that magic depth where I begin to narc out…

I recall a permagrin, giggling as I kicked my way about, looking up at the sillouettes of the turtles in the sunrays, displaced by the ocean blue. Reef sharks, even a tuna cruising by at mach I.

Yes, the post-dive beer is a quick shot of heavenly nectar.

AWD
AWD
June 17, 2012 3:20 pm

Flash starts posting interracial porn. He should have stayed in the showers at the bathhouse. God knows what schizo flash will come up with next. I guess he wants to be carpet bombed again. pathetic.

Zara and Colmes:

I had a gig in grad school when I lived there (in Hawaii). I cleaned flowers and leaves out of the pool twice a day, and the plumeria flowers off the lawn (of an estate). Rich lady realtor, in Kahala. Free digs. 5 minute drive to the line up at diamond head. Great stories Z. It’s hard not to have a good time in Hawaii.

flash
flash
June 17, 2012 3:27 pm

AWD…

If you’re not a homo already , pretend you are…girls love gays.

Tonto…
not surfing is unKaliforniKa
I beginning to believe you’re in league with SSS in his lame attempt at making fascism respectable.

Yes you know you have to look…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Grj7sjQ0_p4

AWD
AWD
June 17, 2012 3:32 pm

Flash spends father’s day trying to free himself from his white coat and padded room.

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flash
flash
June 17, 2012 3:44 pm

AWD…
I thought you would delight in that last pic I posted since I used the “black spunk” in the Google images key word search
Are you saying you’re not into black spunk any longer….

Will you come out of the closet then?

Colma Rising
Colma Rising
June 17, 2012 3:47 pm

If you see a bunch of utility trucks parked with weirdos in combat boots, cowboy hats and surf boards listening to rap….

Grab a taco. You’re somewhere between Big Sur and SF.

My ability to surf is akin to flash’s use of dem written words….

Passable at the Jr. High School level, laughable much passed that, and all talk.

AWD
AWD
June 17, 2012 4:03 pm

Schizo flash:

“I used the “black spunk” in the Google images key word search”

Thanks for providing some insight into your sick mind. A google search, imagine that. I’m still waiting for an original idea to spring from the vast, toxic wasteland of your pickled brain. What did you do before google, use some Rorschach images?

Go back to cutting and pasting, pasting and cutting, and links, links links.

Quit while your behind.

AKAnon
AKAnon
June 17, 2012 4:04 pm

This thread is so long it takes too long to refresh-ya’ll better carry on w/o me. I’ll drop by when I have some time to kill.

AWD
AWD
June 17, 2012 4:05 pm

A goat gets some payback on flash fuck while he prays to the god of google.

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AWD
AWD
June 17, 2012 4:07 pm

Good thing they blocked out your face, eh flash? Did you drop your wallet again?

flash and his bitch

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dilligaf
dilligaf
June 18, 2012 1:13 am

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Colma Rising
Colma Rising
June 18, 2012 1:15 am

Maybe 600’s a tall order….

flash
flash
June 18, 2012 7:32 am

Goolged me this…

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Novista
Novista
June 18, 2012 7:55 am

Never say never, Colma

Meanwhile … how’s this for Gen X financial analyst?

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Novista
Novista
June 18, 2012 7:59 am

Gen X actress:

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Novista
Novista
June 18, 2012 8:13 am

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Millennial actress