DRUGS & MONEY

Economics of Addiction

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Mr. Chen
Mr. Chen
August 8, 2014 9:13 pm

I was new at the job in my hometown. One guy decided to give me a useful tip: if you are going to do her – points – be careful with the booga. Whatever that was, I was sufficiently alarmed that I made it a point to not get the booga. Alot of folks in Murica should have heard the same warning. Instead, it appears many are walking around with a monkey on their back.

SSS
SSS
August 8, 2014 9:16 pm

Oh, my. Admin’s “Coming Out Party” on illegal drugs.

SSS
SSS
August 8, 2014 10:12 pm

It’s late Friday, maggots. Admin uses a tried-and-true political tactic. Release controversial announcements just AFTER close of business on Friday.

Read the stats posted and weep. Get back to me with your tired, discredited argument that drug legalization harms no one but the drug user and “advances liberty.”

N8
N8
August 8, 2014 10:33 pm

27 dollars per day on cocaine LOL. That will buy ya about one decent sized line.

Ottomatik
Ottomatik
August 8, 2014 11:01 pm

SSS- ill take the bait, like I always do.
Colorado, the weed capitol is awash in cash. Living here we all know it. Wait untill you see the numbers next year. Real estate is exploding in the entire state. I cant imagine how much is going out the back doors but i have no doubt its semi’s. The cash is flowing in. Sorry. There might be some vauable info in the article, no doubt there is pain and cost to addiction. But there are filthy riches too. Alcohol, tobacco, drugs are all super fantastically profitable for some. Us, right now. Better get off your dithers and make the adjustments or watch your coffers suffer. Dont think for a second that becuase you backwards ass fascist fucks in AZ arnt going to have gobs of problems with plebs on weed cuz yer so enlightened as to have draconian laws punishing stoners. Hows that workin out. By all means bury your heads in the sand and go down with the ship. Were Blazin a trail, with your states money.

Mr. Chen
Mr. Chen
August 9, 2014 12:46 am

Otto’s argument is that the kid living in the cellar is making a killing dealing drugs and wonders why the old man isn’t on board with the new way of making a living. Actually going out to work at an honest job is so passe’.

SSS
SSS
August 9, 2014 1:04 am

“Colorado, the weed capitol is awash in cash.”
—-Ottomatik

From the sale of marijuana? If so, any facts and figures you’d care to share?

“Better get off your dithers and make the adjustments or watch your coffers suffer.”
—-Ottomatik

No, thanks, Otto. We “backwards ass fascist fucks in AZ,” as you call us, would rather sit back and watch the epic fail in Colorado unfold. Won’t cost us a cent, but it IS going to cost your state plenty. Give it time, dear boy. Give it time.

AKAnon
AKAnon
August 9, 2014 2:54 am

Glad I am sticking with alcohol. Looks like one of the best economic scenarios, and if you don’t fuck up real bad, it is legal and won’t cost you your 2nd Amendment rights. Just sayin’.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
August 9, 2014 3:24 am

$9 a day for alcohol? Maybe if I were a Kardashian. One liter of Silver Wolf vodka, $7.49+ tax. Good for at least three nights. Mixed with generic Diet Mountain Dew (Diet Mountain Chill). Livin’ the dream.

flash
flash
August 9, 2014 5:51 am

There only reason drugs are more expensive than alcohol is because the Federal and state governments pay tens of thousand of taxpayer sucking parasites – not to mention the other tens of thousand now hanging out on golf courses on the taxpayer tab- to harass the junkiies and incarcerate(prisons are expensive too) those who just want to get high whilst all the alkies slowly die of cirrhosis.

DEAES!

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flash
flash
August 9, 2014 5:55 am

lol..

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In the photo above we see delusional people in costumes. There are superhero role-players, as well.

William Norman Grigg
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Bullock
Bullock
August 9, 2014 9:55 am

Fuck alcohol, that shit will kill you and make an idiot out of you at the same time.

ottomatik
ottomatik
August 9, 2014 9:56 am

Mr Chen,
Are all the good folks working for Coors, Budweiser, Jack Daniel’s, Marlboro, Camel, or any of the millions of others or any of the Accountants, delivery Drivers all equal to drug dealing kids living in their parents basement bereft of ” an honest job”. Your statement is so ill thought out it fucking hurts my head.
SSS
Yes awash in cash. For tangible numbers, not my forte, look at Zillow anywhere in the Denver metro area, look at our unemployment, look at our population influx. My experience with the boom is limited to my expertise, High End Commercial and Residential Architectural Metal Fabrication, and business is very good, we are going into our standard busy season and booked solid before it even really starts. I have a network of suppliers, contractors, builders, and subcontractors that I have built overs the last 25 years and yes it is happening.
The Tax revenue from the Pot shops is the tip of the Ice Berge, all of the back door cash is slushing around our local economy raising all boats. For instance, my main supplier desperately needs new warehousing space to accommodate the 20-50% spike in sales. So he has been going to listings first day and usually there are from 3 to 15 customers mostly “dealers” looking for grow space and many come with cash, literally. Like right out of Scarface, these douche bags show up with a million dollars in a fucking bag. Where is that cash coming from. It’s coming from your state, and all the others dithering. Is it measurable, I don’t know, maybe at the State GDP level. Would you rather it was feeding despicable Cartel fucks?
Also, maybe more importantly, your not just sending us your “Stoner” money, you are all sending us your future, our population is exploding with the 20 and 30 something crowd, yeah alot of them are stoners but very many of them are bright hard working kids/young adults looking for better opportunity, and I fuckin bet many of them are going to find it here and stay.
Will there be problems, Damn right there will be, don’t act like AZ doesn’t have Drug problems. We are going to manage them differently, hopefully to our betterment. Cling to your failed policies, lets watch.

KaD
KaD
August 9, 2014 12:02 pm

Ottomatik: There’s an ‘A-pot-acary’ on the 16th street mall downtown Denver. Go there sometime and take a look at what legal pot has brought. There are HORDES of filthy beggars I haven’t seen before and for the first time since I moved here the mall reeks of urine. Almost all are young and male. It looks like a bum encampment. The line up at the Apotacary is almost exclusively young and male. I think it’s very sad these young people have nothing better to look forward to than their next joint.

Mr. Chen
Mr. Chen
August 9, 2014 1:25 pm

The nice thing is Ottomatik is getting rich off AZ’s money and in winter, like a new class of snowbird, the bums will descend from the pot capital back to warm Arizona and California.

disclaimer: I did not think my comment through or I would need a couple of days to reply, take another Tylenol, Otto.

Mr. Chen
Mr. Chen
August 9, 2014 2:27 pm

Are all the good folks working for Coors, Budweiser, Jack Daniel’s, Marlboro, Camel, or any of the millions of others or any of the Accountants, delivery Drivers all equal to drug dealing kids living in their parents basement bereft of ” an honest job”. [?]

I was generalizing, describing the state Colorado as a kid in the basement. Then Otto takes the argument to the particular, pointing out that by my logic, even ‘Accountants’ are suspect. Oh, you are a master rhetorician, Otto.

ottomatik
ottomatik
August 9, 2014 3:50 pm

Chen,
I was merely pointing out, there are millions of Americans currently employed by “legal” drug business, drugs listed in the article presented no less. Equating Coloradans with basement living black-marketeers and reserving the hallowed ” honest job” title for all the rest, glosses over some gaping inconsistencies. I’ll take a tylenol, or maybe I’ll chew a skunky gummy from one of our millions of dispensaries. Thanks for the banter.
KaD
Your telling me the 16th Street mall JUST fell from grace….uh huh. Alas there is no doubt, Denver is/has become the Weed Capitol. My hope is the entire Left Coast follows suit and Florida, followed by the entire nation.
After the USSA legalizes weed I hope they put all drugs on a Dispensary Program. Coke, Heroin, Meth….all. The War on Drugs is lost. Just like every war, the losers are us, we pay with our money, our children, our happiness and our lives. This one has been no different. At least we have the guts to say enough is enough, and do something other than militarize the Police. People are going to do what they want, fuck the battlefield, lets trade.

SSS
SSS
August 9, 2014 8:21 pm

ottomatik

Your story is both unconvincing and anecdotal.

You are just over 7 months into your legal pot law for personal possession. Get back with me at the 2-3 yr point. Your apology will be accepted.

SSS
SSS
August 9, 2014 9:04 pm

According to the data posted ………

$2,000-3,000 a year to feed a tobacco and/or alcohol habit.

$20,000-55,000 to feed an illegal drug habit.

Which one will generate the most crime, students? Turn in your answers soon.

ottomatik
ottomatik
August 9, 2014 10:02 pm

SSS
Yeah I know, specious, also we are having a fracking boom as well, but I am sure you can believe there is a lot of weed being grown and sold. I am in the” lets let it play out camp”, there is some intense conservative push for repeal. At this point I think it would be best for all if we let it play out. You can have the advantage of watching for years before deciding. I do hope some others jump on, most of us do not want to be THE weed state. Thanks for the back and forth, passionate discourse is a serious privledge.
Remember to check out Naturita south of Junction for spectacular scenery and Eagles, if your ever driving through.

karalan
karalan
August 9, 2014 11:09 pm

Vested interests anyone? Never forget psychology is an industry, not a science (see Dr. Tana Dineen, Dr. Margaret Hagen, Dr. Tom Golden, Dr. Thomas Szasz and many others for an insider view of this corrupt and sick modern snake oil racket.

Mike Moskos
Mike Moskos
August 10, 2014 12:58 am

As money gets tight on the local level, the public will start to question the sanity of the war on drugs (esp. the incarceration costs). But in many cases, government will simply lay off police and jail employees long before there are changes in law.

flash
flash
August 10, 2014 3:30 am

Take the money out of drugs via legalization and the supply will dry up along with the criminal activity associate ..and that’s not a good thing for DEA agents looking for a free ride on easy street with perks.

The Washington Post reported on Tuesday that pot farmers in the Sinaloa region have stopped planting due to a massive drop in wholesale prices, from $100 per kilo down to only $25. One farmer is quoted as saying: “It’s not worth it anymore. I wish the Americans would stop with this legalization.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/tracing-the-us-heroin-surge-back-south-of-the-border-as-mexican-cannabis-output-falls/2014/04/06/58dfc590-2123-4cc6-b664-1e5948960576_story.html

Marijuana has accounted for nearly half of all total drug arrests in the US for the past 20 years, according to the FBI’s crime statistics.
http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/Crime#sthash.TEQMC8Yq.dpbs

Nonanonymous
Nonanonymous
August 10, 2014 6:48 am

SSS, if you don’t approve of drugs, don’t do them, and teach your kids to not do them.

That’s about as much as your opinion matters.

Mr. Chen
Mr. Chen
August 10, 2014 4:17 pm

SSS, if you don’t approve of drugs, don’t do them

A liberal minded Nonanon says, Just say no.
I guess parents just failed to step up to the plate on tats, teen pregnancies, raves, designer drugs, FB hookups, etc.
Damn, where have you been, Non? The world is dying for your wisdom.