oh lookee…besides Cux News another GOPer supports Stupio
Rush Limbaugh: ‘I Really Like’ Marco Rubio
“I don’t see Marco Rubio as anything other than a legitimate, full-throated conservative,” Limbaugh continued, “Nobody’s pure, and nobody is ever free of making mistakes.”
“Marco Rubio I really like. I like
,” Limbaugh said. “There are any number of people in this campaign, two or three people, if they win, I’d be happy.”
I think, we are less screwed with Bernie, he would be a ineffective president even if there were a snowballs chance in hell he would win the election or even receive the nomination from dems, heck I bet when Trump backs out he may join the dems.
Hilary will be just like obama, a patsy. So bank on Hilary because the banks love her.
The Washington Post ran this today:
“In all, donors from Wall Street and other financial-services firms have given $44.1 million to support Hillary Clinton’s campaigns and allied super PACs, compared with $39.7 million in backing that former president Bill Clinton received from the industry, according to campaign-finance records dating back to 1974.”
Inflation adjusted, Bill received the equivalent of $60 million in today’s dollar….. damn.
Tucci78
February 4, 2016 9:11 am
Could truth in advertising be the death of politics as we know it?
kokoda
February 4, 2016 9:18 am
An elderly man had a massive stroke and the family drove him down to the emergency room. After a while, the ER doctor appeared wearing a long face.
“I’m afraid Grandpa is brain dead, but his heart is still beating.”
“Oh, dear God,” cried his wife, “We’ve never had a liberal in the family before!”
starfcker
February 4, 2016 9:29 am
A guy called Sabo made that. Here’s a vid of the secret service paying him a visit. https://youtu.be/sdBKisB8ZvA
Anonymous
February 4, 2016 10:03 am
Card,
IMO, Bernie would be likely to die in office and leave us to deal with his VP as the new President. He’s just plain too old to handle that stress for very long (unless he’s a pampered figurehead for some other power that gets dragged out and put on display every so often to promote its agenda).
Might be better to keep an eye on who the most likely for that position is than Bernie himself.
Pretty much the same for Hillary if she makes it that far.
Trump is the only real chance for change but the entire world establishment is standing against him with everything they have (which makes me like him more) and that reduces his chances of being nominated significantly.
Rife
February 4, 2016 11:05 am
I’m not voting for Sanders because of his Zionist ties, cuckolding to Hillarity and his stupid gun flip flopping for votes.
However, if taxpayers’ money is being given out, I’d rather see it go to the people, instead of banks, corporations and the M-I complex.
Bea Lever
February 4, 2016 11:22 am
Bernie was never meant to be a real presidential candidate, period. Somehow the talk of free shit has lured in the sheeple masses and his popularity has risen even beyond Harpy in some states. A regular pied piper with the entranced in tow behind him salivating at the prospect of MOAR.
card802
February 4, 2016 1:03 pm
Anon, I agree, after reading my post above it looks like I was endorsing bernie, I’m not at all.
Iska Waran
February 4, 2016 1:10 pm
Bea,
I think Bernie thinks he’s a real candidate. Card’s correct that if Bernie could win the presidency, congress would just say no too everything. On the remote chance that Trump could win the presidency, I think he could extract some things from Congress because I see him as willing to shut the government down until he gets his way. Zero fucks given. There’s about 90% chance that Rubio or Hillary will be elected and I don’t see any difference between those two.
Westcoaster
February 4, 2016 1:27 pm
Once again you’re yelling in the wrong direction and against your own interests. Ask yourself this question: Why do the major oil companies get paid a subsidy from the Fedgov? Why do consumers continue to get ripped off by the major health insurers? Why can’t we audit the Pentagon?
If you have no answer, then vote for Bernie, because with ANY of the other candidates the charade into the taxpayer’s pocketbooks will continue.
@Bea: Where’s the 9/11 shitfest? I have a good one lined up. Here’s a teaser: “Where’s the proof that Muzzies hijacked any airliners?”
kokoda
February 4, 2016 1:33 pm
Coast….you went back on your word – already.
Anonymous
February 4, 2016 2:17 pm
kokoda,
West went a day before going back on his word.
Giving credit where credit is due, that may be some kind of record for a leftist.
Bea Lever
February 4, 2016 2:19 pm
Westie- I don’t know (scratching head) it was hinted there was one coming two days in a row . Maybe the anti-truthers are too afraid to go up against us with new information or could it be they have converted? I feel a shitfest brewing, that would be the most likely topic IMO.
card802
February 4, 2016 2:32 pm
It would take hilary berning in hell before bernie would ever have a chance at the presidency.
Then watch as the men behind the curtain, off the bern, and their handpicked VP is the new puppet.
B
February 4, 2016 3:28 pm
In the end, the people get the government that they deserve. Cosmic justice..
Suzanna
February 4, 2016 3:54 pm
B….wrong. Who are the people?
Brainwashed people that have been targets of propaganda,
deliberately targeted to follow a false agenda. Yes, maybe
you knew the “truth” about everything, all along. Maybe you
were never fooled, never trusted, were immune to evil. Some
were simply duped. I among them. No one deserves this.
Back in PA Mike
February 4, 2016 5:05 pm
WC, if it’s Rubio or Bush, I might vote for your commie, unless we get the 5 way election.
Llpoh
February 4, 2016 5:50 pm
Suzanna – what a load of crap.
“Bwahwahwah! It is not our fault! We do not deserve this!”
That the people stopped believing in family, thrift, education, and hard wrk s not their fault?
That the people embraced debt like it was the new messiah is not their fault?
That people elected a series of shitbags at all levels is not thir fault?
That people bought overseas shit, thus aiding our economic enemies, is not their fault?
That people allowed all of these foreign “wars” is not their fault?
Are some damn personal responsibility.
You think you have woken up? Fuck no. You are still asleep, if you can’t see that it is our fault, and we deserve everything that is coming.
We let this shit happen. Maybe not individually each of us, specially n TBP, but the collective we.
Sure, there are evil motherfuckers taking advantage of the situation, and manipulating the population for their own benefit. They deserve to be eradicated.
But to say it is not our fault and no one deserves this shit? Damn right we do. It could not have happened without our acquiescence. We are not nice to, collectively.
And by the sound of it, you are Gutierrez than many around here because you admit to just now waking up.
Then wake the fuck up and take responsibility.
General
February 4, 2016 6:51 pm
Do you people ever watch a WWE fight? How long did it take you to figure out that both fighters are on the same team?
Democrats and Republicans play for the same team. Hint: Its not for the American people.
Bea Lever
February 4, 2016 6:54 pm
@ Iska Warren
Take the time to read (the tumbleweed’s) 3:03 pm post in the Bern thread from yesterday. He does a smashing job of explaining Bernie’s purpose in this election. Bernie thinks he is a candidate, yes…..but he knows he is not to be the winner.
This is much the same case as Perot in 93 who served a definite purpose but was not to be the president.
Suzanna
February 4, 2016 7:49 pm
@Llpoh,
what a load of crap! Indeed.
“You think you have woken up? Fuck no. You are still asleep, if you can’t see that it is our fault, and we deserve everything that is coming.”
No, I do not think it is “our” fault. A global agenda that most people do not
even realize exists? “We” were going to single handidly/collectively throw
the bums out or what? Elections are rigged, candidates are selected. I was a
kid when NAFTA was passed. Maybe so were you? All the bills/laws that were and
are being passed…with multiple riders/unknowns snuck into the legislation.
Crooks abound…many more than anyone can realize. “We” have been assaulted
and hoodwinked…and some (5%) are awake to it. OK, more optimistic, 10%.
Denial and rationalization are powerful defense mechanisms. Lest I seem
combative, allow me to ask what you personally have done against the genocidal
wars the lovely PNAC prescribed? Have you gone to the Dick Cheney household
and called him out? Neither have I, sorry to say, and I don’t live in WY. either.
There is blame to be assigned, you are correct. There are an abundance of
fat, unkempt, uneducated brutes in the USA. Agreed. But there are also many
that are appalled/freaked out/vastly saddened by the state of the Union. “We”
have been overrun by a corrupt gov/corrupt bankers/global agendas. Overrun!!
I say.
You are as mad as a wet dog chased by crazy cats!! You can blast me. I can
take it. I’ll take it as my due for being as duped as I had been for so long.
And a good day to you too sir,
Suzanna
Suzanna
February 4, 2016 7:54 pm
uhm, Llpoh?
knock knock…
What is a Gutierrez?
Did you insult me, or praise?
Bea Lever
February 4, 2016 7:59 pm
Suzanna- You will be road kill with “and a good day to you too sir”. The better response would be “STFU and GFY”. This is TBP not the Wednesday circle meeting.
underfire
February 4, 2016 8:06 pm
Suzanna……I like your posts but you are off base here.
At the core of this is the collective us. Who in this country doesn’t vote their own self interest? And our elected leaders are beholden to us if they want to keep their job.
It’s unheard of to vote for the good of the country now days.
Suzanna
February 4, 2016 8:17 pm
Gentlemen,
that would be Llpoh and underfire
casting stones are you?
well, GFY and WTF
collectively and individually
Llpoh
February 4, 2016 8:19 pm
Suzanna – guitierez is some fucked up autocorrect. It was an insult. It was meant to be “guiltier”.
You believe that people are being manipulated and have no personal responsibility. Yep, people forced them o borrow money and be rock stupid.
You are looking for someone else to blame. Grow the fuck up. Yu need to take responsibility for your own actions and quit blaming others.
We have not been over-run by anyone without our implicit fucking consent. People want what they are getting. Thy want to be spoon fed, dumb, fat, last, uneducated, deeply in debt with no future.
The cabals could not survive without that. It s a ambitious relationship. That s why I got the fuck out. Who am I to rail against the majority.
The people are about to do it again. They are about to elect that dumb cunt president. That is no accident – the people want her. She promises that which they want and believe in.
Just what have you done, Oh Suzanna, to change things? How many letters have you written, calls have you made, decisions taken? How much foreign shit do you own? Ever bought a Jap car?
I have no doubt you have done your part to bring this sucker down. But it is someone else’s fault. No it is not. It is everyone’s fault.
So stop whining like a little bitch and grow a pair.
Bea Lever
February 4, 2016 8:20 pm
Bravo Suzanna, Bravo !!
Get down wit yo bad self………..I/S would be proud.
Suzanna
February 4, 2016 8:24 pm
From Suzanna,
I am not road kill,
furthermore, (“kick em’ when they are down”) underfire?
reread your statement. There are several ways that it makes
no sense. From now on you are to be known as kewtad,
or, pileon. I know who you are. Now get your kissy from Llpoh.
Proud of me Bea?
Bea Lever
February 4, 2016 8:29 pm
I give up……………
underfire
February 4, 2016 8:30 pm
Suzanna
My advice to you is to stand back and learn something here….it’s all layed out in neat form for you
Suzanna
February 4, 2016 8:35 pm
Llpoh, OK, now that is enough out of your silly angry
shitty computer program self. Gratefully,
I will not be growing a pair. You are causing me
to laugh hysterically (clue to my sex) and I suspect others
are laughing as well. Wassa matter sweetie, didn’t get any
supper? Go have a beer, and some chips, and calm down.
GMO chips of course.
Do you even buy organic? (channel CA teen)
Furthermore, I do not borrow any money (for long)
…houses take 5-10 yrs. sometimes; I save and pay cash.
Tough guy, beating up on women, go vote.
Suzanna
February 4, 2016 8:41 pm
Oh well, I am gutierrez of hanging around too long
on this BS (bernie sanders) thread.
go fetch.
underfire
February 4, 2016 8:43 pm
Suzanna…Last post to you. I seriously wonder if there is any hope for you and dumb shits like you. The truth can beat you over the head, it doesn’t make any difference. Go live in your dream world as you seem to want.
Unfortunate
February 4, 2016 8:52 pm
Suzanna – Just to be clear, underfire is not whom you might think. Note the lower case “u” in the moniker. Also, please note, and this is true, if you keep getting picked on around here, things are about to get really fucking Unfriendly. If only, because I am sucker for the ladies. I especially, like chicks who fight back. You go girl. Let’s see what happens…
Unfriendly
February 4, 2016 8:58 pm
underfire – WTF? Please be more specific in describing Susanna’s exact “dream world’ in your own words. Lay it out in “neat form” for us.
Unfriendly
February 4, 2016 9:13 pm
C’mon, underfire. You say you’re done with Suzanna, that’s fine. Lay it out and lets go. I got all night…
UnBeaLeavable
February 4, 2016 9:16 pm
Unbelievable how many dopplers going on up in here.
Llpoh
February 4, 2016 9:17 pm
Oh Suzanna – the womenfolk around here have big brass ones. I could give two shits about you being a woman.. Dumb is dumb. You remind me of Steph before she learned a whole lot. Now she is a thinker and a good read.
But so far, you seem to only have gotten to the semi-awake stage.
Personal responsibility is the name of the game. You may be getting there in your own affairs, but you have not come to expect it or demand it from society as a whole.
Sheeple get no free pass. Yes there are wolves out there preying on them. But sheeple have a choice.
They can choose to walk on two legs. They just prefer to walk on four and be herded.
Unfriendly
February 4, 2016 9:44 pm
Three questions:
1.) How can those who are asleep be awakened?
2.) Is it the fault of the sheeple for being asleep?
3.) Or, is it the fault of the TPTB & the MSM and their lullabies?
Suzanna
February 4, 2016 9:52 pm
Llpoh,
you are a dreamboat, sharing your wisdom and all…
“But so far, you seem to only have gotten to the semi-awake stage.”
Great news for me, I have to start somewhere. Better semi-awake
than dead.
“Dumb is dumb.” Well so be it. You think I am dumb. I don’t really
give a plumb. And neither do you.
underfire
February 4, 2016 9:53 pm
Unfriendly …. fair enough
It’s a product of fantasy and wishful thinking to believe that we, the innocent collective us, were duped into destroying this country, mainly by debt, by a handful of elite deep thinkers. If that were so, not only would the people of this country have to be classified as dullards, but the collective us would be lined up and ready for self sacrifice for the good of our country and our future generations.
It’s not so, nearly every man still votes his own pocketbook. We’ve been and are still more than ready to pass the cost of our wants onto our kids or whoever is available.
We are all guilty, minus a few, of demanding our politicos of giving us what we want. We will never face the truth until forced to, come to terms with our failing condition, and thus go forward from a sound footing because we’re insistent on the convenient passing of blame to someone else.
Unfriendly
February 4, 2016 10:08 pm
Here is my view on it. I began to notice the “mass hypnosis” when Judge Robert Bork got “Borked”. I also watched the MSM do to Clarence Thomas what they did to Bork. The smears, etc. Clarence Thomas is a minority. WTF? But, the media pundits said even if there was a CHANCE that he sexually harassed Anita Hill, then he should not be considered for Supreme Court. Fast forward to Bill Clinton and the semen stained dress. Seemed like incontrovertible evidence left by a true sexual predator, right? But not in the eyes of the media pundits who said it depended upon the definition of “is” is.
Even my own parents in their old age became hypnotized. They were always conservative, then, their brains went soft in later years. I remember debating my mother about Bill Clinton and she told me she trusted him more than Ken Starr. She told me it was like Bill Clinton stole Ken Starr’s girlfriend in college and now Ken Starr was out for revenge.
I could believe it and had a problem understanding it for some time. Then, I realized it was how things were being portrayed in the media. Through hypnotic suggestion, even my own parents were lulled asleep by deceit in the media. I believe, had the media reported truthfully and in an unbiased way, it all could have been so different.
That said, I don’t blame my parents. They were lovely people, just deceived. I can’t blame them. I blame the fuckers in control…
underfire
February 4, 2016 10:21 pm
Unfriendly, ……So……. the masses are not culpible, and therefore are out of the “process” and are at the mercy of the elites. Is that right? Where do you see this going? I see beyond where the pendulum can swing.
Unfriendly
February 4, 2016 11:00 pm
We’re all culpable and get what we deserve in varying degrees and in diverse ways.
Where is it going? Towards condemnation or salvation depending upon the choices we make now.
The damn pendulum has done been swung…
Old Dog
February 4, 2016 11:20 pm
It’s kind of fun to watch flame wars, even if they involve someone you know. Where do I start??
ah..here: (of course I get the benefit of reading this from start to finish, but shouldn’t everyone? Oh, and I am also privy to some inside information….
So B says:
“In the end, the people get the government that they deserve. Cosmic justice..
and the Suzanna says”
“B….wrong. Who are the people?” and there are a few more words then she says:
“Some were simply duped. I among them. No one deserves this.”
Reading further I see all sorts of accusations of how ignorant and “unawake” Suzanna is.
LO=frapping-L, she is one of the most “awake persons” on this planet.
I see a lot of pronouns and groups names being thrown around, “we this” and “they that”, and underfire talking about personal responsibility.
See what voting for Ron Paul the last two times has got us? We “get” personal responsibility. Unfortunately the FSA does not.
We get it, but “we” do not deserve what “the rest of us” have voted for.
All Hail the FSA, coming to a town near you!!!! Whether a DEM or Repub get’s voted in, there will be a lot of FS passed around. Oh, by the way, I paid for a lot of that an I do not get any.
How do I know this…
Westcoaster said:
“Why do the major oil companies get paid a subsidy from the Fedgov? Why
do consumers continue to get ripped off by the major health insurers?
Why can’t we audit the Pentagon?”
Because politicians lie to us and vote their interest over ours. Yeah, public confidence is abysmal for the institution of Congress, but just like NIMBY, most congressmen are reelected by landslides (do not blame MY congressmen).
So, in the generic sense “we” get what we get, but we do not deserve it. We deserve a whole lot better.
Lipoh said to Sizanna:
And by the sound of it, you are Gutierrez than many around here because you admit to just now waking up.
(OK, reading further your spell check should have said “guiltier”)…..doesn’t matter, if you do not know the context then don’t make assumptions. Suzanna woke up several years ago. When she said “Some were simply duped. I among them”, she was admitting to be part of the sheeple “then”, but then was a decade ago.
If you think “we” (or “WE”) deserve O’Bama and whomever next come into office, you are dead wrong. WE do not deserve them but we will get them regardless of the efforts of time and the money we spend to try to prevent it.
thanks for listening
OD
One of the founding members of the Department of Redundancy Department. I did read what I wrote, and I did repeat a couple of things. Sometimes repetition is a “good” thing, good being a value judgement.
Fire away, hahahahahahahaha.
IndenturedServant
February 5, 2016 12:04 am
Suzanna et al……….We absofuckinglutely deserve what’s coming.
“Freedom makes a huge requirement of every human being. With freedom comes responsibility. For the person who is unwilling to grow up, the person who does not want to carry his own weight, this is a frightening prospect.” —Eleanor Roosevelt
We American citizens abdicated our responsibility as the protectors and beneficiaries of freedom and liberty. That cannot be argued. Congress ceded their power to the special interests, bankers and shadow government. That cannot be argued.
The citizens abdicated their responsibility by becoming selfish and greedy thinking only of their own personal interests. For example, senior citizens tend to vote for whoever is promising them more free shit and SS increases. If the country has to go into debt to provide it, so be it! They feel entitled. They really don’t care about the issues that face the younger working class or the up and coming children. They’ve got one foot on a banana peel and the other in the grave and vote for what and who promises them the most comfort. Fuck everyone else and the country. That’s just one example of millions. The price for this kind of narrow, selfish thinking is corrupt govt and the incremental loss of our freedom and liberty.
Congress ceded their power and responsibility as the legislative branch of govt in return for plentiful campaign coffers come election time, sweetheart side deals and multi million dollars salaries working for the special interests, bankers and shadow government. The price for this is that they no longer represent you and I. It’s plain to see for anyone with two brain cells to rub together.
Of course we were lied to. Of course evil men took advantage. That is the nature of evil men. We know this. This isn’t new.
With freedom, comes responsibility………..give up the responsibility…………take the easy road…….as each and everyone of us has at one point or another and the price is the loss of that freedom! Inaction, laziness and greed on the part of each of us……..including we holier than thou TBP denizens put us exactly where we are today. We deserve what is coming. We are going to pay the price for abdicating our responsibility.
When was the last time you voted for a candidate that represented what was best for the country EVEN IF they did not represent your own personal views? If you vote for what is best for the country as a whole then the majority of it’s citizens will benefit. Look at all the young people slobbering to vote for Bernie (see, I’m on topic :-)) to get free education and other free shit………is that best for the country, the working class or the senior citizens? We citizens always make the easy choices, never the hard ones resulting the mess we now face.
Wake up……….grow up…….be honest about it…….and own it.
IndenturedServant
February 5, 2016 12:35 am
Old Dog, waking up isn’t an instantaneous thing for anyone. Waking up is a gradual process. First we see the things we vehemently object to then we see a few of the things we took part in or advantage of then we run up against the things we each hold sacred. (for me it was the actions of our military and the reality of racism in a manner I had never considered) I “woke up” in 2006 and back then I would have disputed that we collectively deserve what is coming. Ten years later and everything we did wrong, both individually and collectively to get to this point is blatantly fucking obvious. “Deserve” may not not be the correct choice of words but we reap what we sow.
Suzanna
February 5, 2016 2:20 am
@IS
Whether one uses the words deserve or reap…it implies an intent.
It implies the sense that each person consciously (or even unconsciously)
displays corruption on a personal level. Trust me, I know people that are
so dismayed by the political system, yet do try to vote for someone that
will do the best they can for constituents. We tried that in 2010, with that
passel of candidates that promised to push a fair and honest agenda, and work
to repeal health/tax laws in particular. What happened? They lied. Those guys
did a 180 within a month. So, people get turned off…take a stance eg, of not
voting at all. Not participating.
Social programs are a drain, but the military, the machinery, the weapons sales,
the contractors, the bribes, and the apparent theft of trillions outweigh SNAP and
welfare. SS? I have been steady on this. Gov. can cut a check to people for what
they pd. and scrap the program. Medicare and medicaid are the big drains/frauds.
That is not so much my opinion…it is what I know. I worked as a nurse (VA, private
hospital) for 30 years. So, if you, IS, say people have been greedy, even criminal
by exploiting systems/deliberately and consciously…then those individuals do
deserve to lose. They deserve to lose ill gotten gains and be shamed.
However, there are so many good people, honest people who do not steal. Or
exploit. People that honor others and do the best they can with what they have.
Don’t you know any? Look, we are headed for a financial collapse, and a reset
that will wipe out many people. We are headed for civil unrest or worse. The
way the warmongers are behaving, we might be in for unending wars. The
best anyone can do (in the police state we are experiencing) is be an example
in our own community, at our work, within our relationships, and our families.
Do you imagine I am not angry and frustrated? Sure, who wouldn’t be.
I have to ask, do the Syrians deserve their fate? The Yemeni’s? I could name
many countries. Don’t worry IS, USA will suffer, is suffering now, and will suffer
greatly in the future. Do our children deserve starvation and death? Do you?
Personalize it for a moment, and extend that to your family…have you
enriched yourself by fraud? Do you spend all your time watching TV? Probably
not. I will not accept blanket statements that all people are jerks and anything bad
that befalls people in the USA is well deserved. Not all people, not by a long shot.
Rather, we need to help each other cope with this giant pile of shite that we find
ourselves in. Even if, through ignorance, we “allowed” it to happen.
IndenturedServant
February 5, 2016 3:38 am
You’re missing the point suzanna. The citizens COLLECTIVELY abdicated their responsibility to remain vigilant, educate themselves and protect their freedoms. We’ve taken the easy way out. As a society we do deserve what is coming. Are there individuals who don’t deserve it? Sure. Is that going to protect them? We’ve all tried voting (since forever) for what we thought was best candidate. When has that worked out? The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting a different result. According to the current Trumpeteers, all we need do is vote for The Donald and all will be right with the world. According to Westie all we need do is vote for Bernie to achieve utopia. Isn’t that what we did in 1980, 1984, 1992, 1996, 2000, 2004, 2008, 2012? The abysmal results have been staring us in the face all our lives yet we continue to collectively vote for the next corrupt bastard.
I think everyone does display a level of personal corruption except for children. We all tend to vote in our own personal interests rather than what is best for everybody or for the entire country. It’s instinctual and largely based on greed. Greed is good when you’re living as hunter gatherers but greed becomes more and more destructive as we become “civilized” and live in larger and larger groups. I’m not saying that we do it with evil intent.
I grew up as a military brat and I benefited enormously from the fraud committed against the American people by the MIC. Half the world was my literal back yard as I grew up. Fact is that the offspring of my generation and their children are going to pay for that fraud which didn’t benefit them one bit. I indirectly recognized that fraud when I was 15 or 16 yet no one could explain it to me. It was 2007 before I recognized it for what it was.
The unsustainability of the post war boom was as predictable as eventual crash of every fiat money system ever created yet the boomers and even genX demanded their piece of the pie. We all demanded double digit returns on our retirement accounts, cheap goods, cheap energy, low interest rates etc and the corrupt bastards we elected delivered it. Were you out there campaigning against any of that? You’re what…..50 years old and if memory serves, retired right? Did you benefit from any of the corruption that enabled that? You do realize that every single dollar in your retirement fund is some other persons debt right? Your children and grand children will be paying that debt. Do you know how many generations in all of human history were able to work for 50 years or less and retire comfortably for the rest of their lives? Three or four at most and all of them have been in the last 100 years or so.
oh lookee…besides Cux News another GOPer supports Stupio
Rush Limbaugh: ‘I Really Like’ Marco Rubio
“I don’t see Marco Rubio as anything other than a legitimate, full-throated conservative,” Limbaugh continued, “Nobody’s pure, and nobody is ever free of making mistakes.”
“Marco Rubio I really like. I like
,” Limbaugh said. “There are any number of people in this campaign, two or three people, if they win, I’d be happy.”
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/02/rush-limbaugh-i-really-like-marco-rubio/
I think, we are less screwed with Bernie, he would be a ineffective president even if there were a snowballs chance in hell he would win the election or even receive the nomination from dems, heck I bet when Trump backs out he may join the dems.
Hilary will be just like obama, a patsy. So bank on Hilary because the banks love her.
The Washington Post ran this today:
“In all, donors from Wall Street and other financial-services firms have given $44.1 million to support Hillary Clinton’s campaigns and allied super PACs, compared with $39.7 million in backing that former president Bill Clinton received from the industry, according to campaign-finance records dating back to 1974.”
Inflation adjusted, Bill received the equivalent of $60 million in today’s dollar….. damn.
Could truth in advertising be the death of politics as we know it?
An elderly man had a massive stroke and the family drove him down to the emergency room. After a while, the ER doctor appeared wearing a long face.
“I’m afraid Grandpa is brain dead, but his heart is still beating.”
“Oh, dear God,” cried his wife, “We’ve never had a liberal in the family before!”
A guy called Sabo made that. Here’s a vid of the secret service paying him a visit. https://youtu.be/sdBKisB8ZvA
Card,
IMO, Bernie would be likely to die in office and leave us to deal with his VP as the new President. He’s just plain too old to handle that stress for very long (unless he’s a pampered figurehead for some other power that gets dragged out and put on display every so often to promote its agenda).
Might be better to keep an eye on who the most likely for that position is than Bernie himself.
Pretty much the same for Hillary if she makes it that far.
Trump is the only real chance for change but the entire world establishment is standing against him with everything they have (which makes me like him more) and that reduces his chances of being nominated significantly.
I’m not voting for Sanders because of his Zionist ties, cuckolding to Hillarity and his stupid gun flip flopping for votes.
However, if taxpayers’ money is being given out, I’d rather see it go to the people, instead of banks, corporations and the M-I complex.
Bernie was never meant to be a real presidential candidate, period. Somehow the talk of free shit has lured in the sheeple masses and his popularity has risen even beyond Harpy in some states. A regular pied piper with the entranced in tow behind him salivating at the prospect of MOAR.
Anon, I agree, after reading my post above it looks like I was endorsing bernie, I’m not at all.
Bea,
I think Bernie thinks he’s a real candidate. Card’s correct that if Bernie could win the presidency, congress would just say no too everything. On the remote chance that Trump could win the presidency, I think he could extract some things from Congress because I see him as willing to shut the government down until he gets his way. Zero fucks given. There’s about 90% chance that Rubio or Hillary will be elected and I don’t see any difference between those two.
Once again you’re yelling in the wrong direction and against your own interests. Ask yourself this question: Why do the major oil companies get paid a subsidy from the Fedgov? Why do consumers continue to get ripped off by the major health insurers? Why can’t we audit the Pentagon?
If you have no answer, then vote for Bernie, because with ANY of the other candidates the charade into the taxpayer’s pocketbooks will continue.
@Bea: Where’s the 9/11 shitfest? I have a good one lined up. Here’s a teaser: “Where’s the proof that Muzzies hijacked any airliners?”
Coast….you went back on your word – already.
kokoda,
West went a day before going back on his word.
Giving credit where credit is due, that may be some kind of record for a leftist.
Westie- I don’t know (scratching head) it was hinted there was one coming two days in a row . Maybe the anti-truthers are too afraid to go up against us with new information or could it be they have converted? I feel a shitfest brewing, that would be the most likely topic IMO.
It would take hilary berning in hell before bernie would ever have a chance at the presidency.
Then watch as the men behind the curtain, off the bern, and their handpicked VP is the new puppet.
In the end, the people get the government that they deserve. Cosmic justice..
B….wrong. Who are the people?
Brainwashed people that have been targets of propaganda,
deliberately targeted to follow a false agenda. Yes, maybe
you knew the “truth” about everything, all along. Maybe you
were never fooled, never trusted, were immune to evil. Some
were simply duped. I among them. No one deserves this.
WC, if it’s Rubio or Bush, I might vote for your commie, unless we get the 5 way election.
Suzanna – what a load of crap.
“Bwahwahwah! It is not our fault! We do not deserve this!”
That the people stopped believing in family, thrift, education, and hard wrk s not their fault?
That the people embraced debt like it was the new messiah is not their fault?
That people elected a series of shitbags at all levels is not thir fault?
That people bought overseas shit, thus aiding our economic enemies, is not their fault?
That people allowed all of these foreign “wars” is not their fault?
Are some damn personal responsibility.
You think you have woken up? Fuck no. You are still asleep, if you can’t see that it is our fault, and we deserve everything that is coming.
We let this shit happen. Maybe not individually each of us, specially n TBP, but the collective we.
Sure, there are evil motherfuckers taking advantage of the situation, and manipulating the population for their own benefit. They deserve to be eradicated.
But to say it is not our fault and no one deserves this shit? Damn right we do. It could not have happened without our acquiescence. We are not nice to, collectively.
And by the sound of it, you are Gutierrez than many around here because you admit to just now waking up.
Then wake the fuck up and take responsibility.
Do you people ever watch a WWE fight? How long did it take you to figure out that both fighters are on the same team?
Democrats and Republicans play for the same team. Hint: Its not for the American people.
@ Iska Warren
Take the time to read (the tumbleweed’s) 3:03 pm post in the Bern thread from yesterday. He does a smashing job of explaining Bernie’s purpose in this election. Bernie thinks he is a candidate, yes…..but he knows he is not to be the winner.
This is much the same case as Perot in 93 who served a definite purpose but was not to be the president.
@Llpoh,
what a load of crap! Indeed.
“You think you have woken up? Fuck no. You are still asleep, if you can’t see that it is our fault, and we deserve everything that is coming.”
No, I do not think it is “our” fault. A global agenda that most people do not
even realize exists? “We” were going to single handidly/collectively throw
the bums out or what? Elections are rigged, candidates are selected. I was a
kid when NAFTA was passed. Maybe so were you? All the bills/laws that were and
are being passed…with multiple riders/unknowns snuck into the legislation.
Crooks abound…many more than anyone can realize. “We” have been assaulted
and hoodwinked…and some (5%) are awake to it. OK, more optimistic, 10%.
Denial and rationalization are powerful defense mechanisms. Lest I seem
combative, allow me to ask what you personally have done against the genocidal
wars the lovely PNAC prescribed? Have you gone to the Dick Cheney household
and called him out? Neither have I, sorry to say, and I don’t live in WY. either.
There is blame to be assigned, you are correct. There are an abundance of
fat, unkempt, uneducated brutes in the USA. Agreed. But there are also many
that are appalled/freaked out/vastly saddened by the state of the Union. “We”
have been overrun by a corrupt gov/corrupt bankers/global agendas. Overrun!!
I say.
You are as mad as a wet dog chased by crazy cats!! You can blast me. I can
take it. I’ll take it as my due for being as duped as I had been for so long.
And a good day to you too sir,
Suzanna
uhm, Llpoh?
knock knock…
What is a Gutierrez?
Did you insult me, or praise?
Suzanna- You will be road kill with “and a good day to you too sir”. The better response would be “STFU and GFY”. This is TBP not the Wednesday circle meeting.
Suzanna……I like your posts but you are off base here.
At the core of this is the collective us. Who in this country doesn’t vote their own self interest? And our elected leaders are beholden to us if they want to keep their job.
It’s unheard of to vote for the good of the country now days.
Gentlemen,
that would be Llpoh and underfire
casting stones are you?
well, GFY and WTF
collectively and individually
Suzanna – guitierez is some fucked up autocorrect. It was an insult. It was meant to be “guiltier”.
You believe that people are being manipulated and have no personal responsibility. Yep, people forced them o borrow money and be rock stupid.
You are looking for someone else to blame. Grow the fuck up. Yu need to take responsibility for your own actions and quit blaming others.
We have not been over-run by anyone without our implicit fucking consent. People want what they are getting. Thy want to be spoon fed, dumb, fat, last, uneducated, deeply in debt with no future.
The cabals could not survive without that. It s a ambitious relationship. That s why I got the fuck out. Who am I to rail against the majority.
The people are about to do it again. They are about to elect that dumb cunt president. That is no accident – the people want her. She promises that which they want and believe in.
Just what have you done, Oh Suzanna, to change things? How many letters have you written, calls have you made, decisions taken? How much foreign shit do you own? Ever bought a Jap car?
I have no doubt you have done your part to bring this sucker down. But it is someone else’s fault. No it is not. It is everyone’s fault.
So stop whining like a little bitch and grow a pair.
Bravo Suzanna, Bravo !!
Get down wit yo bad self………..I/S would be proud.
From Suzanna,
I am not road kill,
furthermore, (“kick em’ when they are down”) underfire?
reread your statement. There are several ways that it makes
no sense. From now on you are to be known as kewtad,
or, pileon. I know who you are. Now get your kissy from Llpoh.
Proud of me Bea?
I give up……………
Suzanna
My advice to you is to stand back and learn something here….it’s all layed out in neat form for you
Llpoh, OK, now that is enough out of your silly angry
shitty computer program self. Gratefully,
I will not be growing a pair. You are causing me
to laugh hysterically (clue to my sex) and I suspect others
are laughing as well. Wassa matter sweetie, didn’t get any
supper? Go have a beer, and some chips, and calm down.
GMO chips of course.
Do you even buy organic? (channel CA teen)
Furthermore, I do not borrow any money (for long)
…houses take 5-10 yrs. sometimes; I save and pay cash.
Tough guy, beating up on women, go vote.
Oh well, I am gutierrez of hanging around too long
on this BS (bernie sanders) thread.
go fetch.
Suzanna…Last post to you. I seriously wonder if there is any hope for you and dumb shits like you. The truth can beat you over the head, it doesn’t make any difference. Go live in your dream world as you seem to want.
Suzanna – Just to be clear, underfire is not whom you might think. Note the lower case “u” in the moniker. Also, please note, and this is true, if you keep getting picked on around here, things are about to get really fucking Unfriendly. If only, because I am sucker for the ladies. I especially, like chicks who fight back. You go girl. Let’s see what happens…
underfire – WTF? Please be more specific in describing Susanna’s exact “dream world’ in your own words. Lay it out in “neat form” for us.
C’mon, underfire. You say you’re done with Suzanna, that’s fine. Lay it out and lets go. I got all night…
Unbelievable how many dopplers going on up in here.
Oh Suzanna – the womenfolk around here have big brass ones. I could give two shits about you being a woman.. Dumb is dumb. You remind me of Steph before she learned a whole lot. Now she is a thinker and a good read.
But so far, you seem to only have gotten to the semi-awake stage.
Personal responsibility is the name of the game. You may be getting there in your own affairs, but you have not come to expect it or demand it from society as a whole.
Sheeple get no free pass. Yes there are wolves out there preying on them. But sheeple have a choice.
They can choose to walk on two legs. They just prefer to walk on four and be herded.
Three questions:
1.) How can those who are asleep be awakened?
2.) Is it the fault of the sheeple for being asleep?
3.) Or, is it the fault of the TPTB & the MSM and their lullabies?
Llpoh,
you are a dreamboat, sharing your wisdom and all…
“But so far, you seem to only have gotten to the semi-awake stage.”
Great news for me, I have to start somewhere. Better semi-awake
than dead.
“Dumb is dumb.” Well so be it. You think I am dumb. I don’t really
give a plumb. And neither do you.
Unfriendly …. fair enough
It’s a product of fantasy and wishful thinking to believe that we, the innocent collective us, were duped into destroying this country, mainly by debt, by a handful of elite deep thinkers. If that were so, not only would the people of this country have to be classified as dullards, but the collective us would be lined up and ready for self sacrifice for the good of our country and our future generations.
It’s not so, nearly every man still votes his own pocketbook. We’ve been and are still more than ready to pass the cost of our wants onto our kids or whoever is available.
We are all guilty, minus a few, of demanding our politicos of giving us what we want. We will never face the truth until forced to, come to terms with our failing condition, and thus go forward from a sound footing because we’re insistent on the convenient passing of blame to someone else.
Here is my view on it. I began to notice the “mass hypnosis” when Judge Robert Bork got “Borked”. I also watched the MSM do to Clarence Thomas what they did to Bork. The smears, etc. Clarence Thomas is a minority. WTF? But, the media pundits said even if there was a CHANCE that he sexually harassed Anita Hill, then he should not be considered for Supreme Court. Fast forward to Bill Clinton and the semen stained dress. Seemed like incontrovertible evidence left by a true sexual predator, right? But not in the eyes of the media pundits who said it depended upon the definition of “is” is.
Even my own parents in their old age became hypnotized. They were always conservative, then, their brains went soft in later years. I remember debating my mother about Bill Clinton and she told me she trusted him more than Ken Starr. She told me it was like Bill Clinton stole Ken Starr’s girlfriend in college and now Ken Starr was out for revenge.
I could believe it and had a problem understanding it for some time. Then, I realized it was how things were being portrayed in the media. Through hypnotic suggestion, even my own parents were lulled asleep by deceit in the media. I believe, had the media reported truthfully and in an unbiased way, it all could have been so different.
That said, I don’t blame my parents. They were lovely people, just deceived. I can’t blame them. I blame the fuckers in control…
Unfriendly, ……So……. the masses are not culpible, and therefore are out of the “process” and are at the mercy of the elites. Is that right? Where do you see this going? I see beyond where the pendulum can swing.
We’re all culpable and get what we deserve in varying degrees and in diverse ways.
Where is it going? Towards condemnation or salvation depending upon the choices we make now.
The damn pendulum has done been swung…
It’s kind of fun to watch flame wars, even if they involve someone you know. Where do I start??
ah..here: (of course I get the benefit of reading this from start to finish, but shouldn’t everyone? Oh, and I am also privy to some inside information….
So B says:
“In the end, the people get the government that they deserve. Cosmic justice..
and the Suzanna says”
“B….wrong. Who are the people?” and there are a few more words then she says:
“Some were simply duped. I among them. No one deserves this.”
Reading further I see all sorts of accusations of how ignorant and “unawake” Suzanna is.
LO=frapping-L, she is one of the most “awake persons” on this planet.
I see a lot of pronouns and groups names being thrown around, “we this” and “they that”, and underfire talking about personal responsibility.
See what voting for Ron Paul the last two times has got us? We “get” personal responsibility. Unfortunately the FSA does not.
We get it, but “we” do not deserve what “the rest of us” have voted for.
All Hail the FSA, coming to a town near you!!!! Whether a DEM or Repub get’s voted in, there will be a lot of FS passed around. Oh, by the way, I paid for a lot of that an I do not get any.
How do I know this…
Westcoaster said:
“Why do the major oil companies get paid a subsidy from the Fedgov? Why
do consumers continue to get ripped off by the major health insurers?
Why can’t we audit the Pentagon?”
Because politicians lie to us and vote their interest over ours. Yeah, public confidence is abysmal for the institution of Congress, but just like NIMBY, most congressmen are reelected by landslides (do not blame MY congressmen).
So, in the generic sense “we” get what we get, but we do not deserve it. We deserve a whole lot better.
Lipoh said to Sizanna:
And by the sound of it, you are Gutierrez than many around here because you admit to just now waking up.
(OK, reading further your spell check should have said “guiltier”)…..doesn’t matter, if you do not know the context then don’t make assumptions. Suzanna woke up several years ago. When she said “Some were simply duped. I among them”, she was admitting to be part of the sheeple “then”, but then was a decade ago.
If you think “we” (or “WE”) deserve O’Bama and whomever next come into office, you are dead wrong. WE do not deserve them but we will get them regardless of the efforts of time and the money we spend to try to prevent it.
thanks for listening
OD
One of the founding members of the Department of Redundancy Department. I did read what I wrote, and I did repeat a couple of things. Sometimes repetition is a “good” thing, good being a value judgement.
Fire away, hahahahahahahaha.
Suzanna et al……….We absofuckinglutely deserve what’s coming.
“Freedom makes a huge requirement of every human being. With freedom comes responsibility. For the person who is unwilling to grow up, the person who does not want to carry his own weight, this is a frightening prospect.” —Eleanor Roosevelt
We American citizens abdicated our responsibility as the protectors and beneficiaries of freedom and liberty. That cannot be argued. Congress ceded their power to the special interests, bankers and shadow government. That cannot be argued.
The citizens abdicated their responsibility by becoming selfish and greedy thinking only of their own personal interests. For example, senior citizens tend to vote for whoever is promising them more free shit and SS increases. If the country has to go into debt to provide it, so be it! They feel entitled. They really don’t care about the issues that face the younger working class or the up and coming children. They’ve got one foot on a banana peel and the other in the grave and vote for what and who promises them the most comfort. Fuck everyone else and the country. That’s just one example of millions. The price for this kind of narrow, selfish thinking is corrupt govt and the incremental loss of our freedom and liberty.
Congress ceded their power and responsibility as the legislative branch of govt in return for plentiful campaign coffers come election time, sweetheart side deals and multi million dollars salaries working for the special interests, bankers and shadow government. The price for this is that they no longer represent you and I. It’s plain to see for anyone with two brain cells to rub together.
Of course we were lied to. Of course evil men took advantage. That is the nature of evil men. We know this. This isn’t new.
With freedom, comes responsibility………..give up the responsibility…………take the easy road…….as each and everyone of us has at one point or another and the price is the loss of that freedom! Inaction, laziness and greed on the part of each of us……..including we holier than thou TBP denizens put us exactly where we are today. We deserve what is coming. We are going to pay the price for abdicating our responsibility.
When was the last time you voted for a candidate that represented what was best for the country EVEN IF they did not represent your own personal views? If you vote for what is best for the country as a whole then the majority of it’s citizens will benefit. Look at all the young people slobbering to vote for Bernie (see, I’m on topic :-)) to get free education and other free shit………is that best for the country, the working class or the senior citizens? We citizens always make the easy choices, never the hard ones resulting the mess we now face.
Wake up……….grow up…….be honest about it…….and own it.
Old Dog, waking up isn’t an instantaneous thing for anyone. Waking up is a gradual process. First we see the things we vehemently object to then we see a few of the things we took part in or advantage of then we run up against the things we each hold sacred. (for me it was the actions of our military and the reality of racism in a manner I had never considered) I “woke up” in 2006 and back then I would have disputed that we collectively deserve what is coming. Ten years later and everything we did wrong, both individually and collectively to get to this point is blatantly fucking obvious. “Deserve” may not not be the correct choice of words but we reap what we sow.
@IS
Whether one uses the words deserve or reap…it implies an intent.
It implies the sense that each person consciously (or even unconsciously)
displays corruption on a personal level. Trust me, I know people that are
so dismayed by the political system, yet do try to vote for someone that
will do the best they can for constituents. We tried that in 2010, with that
passel of candidates that promised to push a fair and honest agenda, and work
to repeal health/tax laws in particular. What happened? They lied. Those guys
did a 180 within a month. So, people get turned off…take a stance eg, of not
voting at all. Not participating.
Social programs are a drain, but the military, the machinery, the weapons sales,
the contractors, the bribes, and the apparent theft of trillions outweigh SNAP and
welfare. SS? I have been steady on this. Gov. can cut a check to people for what
they pd. and scrap the program. Medicare and medicaid are the big drains/frauds.
That is not so much my opinion…it is what I know. I worked as a nurse (VA, private
hospital) for 30 years. So, if you, IS, say people have been greedy, even criminal
by exploiting systems/deliberately and consciously…then those individuals do
deserve to lose. They deserve to lose ill gotten gains and be shamed.
However, there are so many good people, honest people who do not steal. Or
exploit. People that honor others and do the best they can with what they have.
Don’t you know any? Look, we are headed for a financial collapse, and a reset
that will wipe out many people. We are headed for civil unrest or worse. The
way the warmongers are behaving, we might be in for unending wars. The
best anyone can do (in the police state we are experiencing) is be an example
in our own community, at our work, within our relationships, and our families.
Do you imagine I am not angry and frustrated? Sure, who wouldn’t be.
I have to ask, do the Syrians deserve their fate? The Yemeni’s? I could name
many countries. Don’t worry IS, USA will suffer, is suffering now, and will suffer
greatly in the future. Do our children deserve starvation and death? Do you?
Personalize it for a moment, and extend that to your family…have you
enriched yourself by fraud? Do you spend all your time watching TV? Probably
not. I will not accept blanket statements that all people are jerks and anything bad
that befalls people in the USA is well deserved. Not all people, not by a long shot.
Rather, we need to help each other cope with this giant pile of shite that we find
ourselves in. Even if, through ignorance, we “allowed” it to happen.
You’re missing the point suzanna. The citizens COLLECTIVELY abdicated their responsibility to remain vigilant, educate themselves and protect their freedoms. We’ve taken the easy way out. As a society we do deserve what is coming. Are there individuals who don’t deserve it? Sure. Is that going to protect them? We’ve all tried voting (since forever) for what we thought was best candidate. When has that worked out? The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting a different result. According to the current Trumpeteers, all we need do is vote for The Donald and all will be right with the world. According to Westie all we need do is vote for Bernie to achieve utopia. Isn’t that what we did in 1980, 1984, 1992, 1996, 2000, 2004, 2008, 2012? The abysmal results have been staring us in the face all our lives yet we continue to collectively vote for the next corrupt bastard.
I think everyone does display a level of personal corruption except for children. We all tend to vote in our own personal interests rather than what is best for everybody or for the entire country. It’s instinctual and largely based on greed. Greed is good when you’re living as hunter gatherers but greed becomes more and more destructive as we become “civilized” and live in larger and larger groups. I’m not saying that we do it with evil intent.
I grew up as a military brat and I benefited enormously from the fraud committed against the American people by the MIC. Half the world was my literal back yard as I grew up. Fact is that the offspring of my generation and their children are going to pay for that fraud which didn’t benefit them one bit. I indirectly recognized that fraud when I was 15 or 16 yet no one could explain it to me. It was 2007 before I recognized it for what it was.
The unsustainability of the post war boom was as predictable as eventual crash of every fiat money system ever created yet the boomers and even genX demanded their piece of the pie. We all demanded double digit returns on our retirement accounts, cheap goods, cheap energy, low interest rates etc and the corrupt bastards we elected delivered it. Were you out there campaigning against any of that? You’re what…..50 years old and if memory serves, retired right? Did you benefit from any of the corruption that enabled that? You do realize that every single dollar in your retirement fund is some other persons debt right? Your children and grand children will be paying that debt. Do you know how many generations in all of human history were able to work for 50 years or less and retire comfortably for the rest of their lives? Three or four at most and all of them have been in the last 100 years or so.
We all benefited and we’re all going to pay.