Bring Back the Loyalty Oath

“President Truman (D) signs Executive Order 9835, Federal Employee Loyalty Program, requiring all federal employees to have allegiance to the United States. Attorney General Tom Clark compiles list of 82 supposedly subversive agencies, says Communists are everywhere and “each carries with him the germs of death for society.” FBI does a name check on 2,000,000 federal employees in 1948 plus approx. 500,000 new applicants each year. If “derogatory information” found, a full investigation made and results given to 150 loyalty boards (27000 such field investigations were made 1948-58). Employees could be fired if “reasonable doubt” of loyalty was established by 6 categories: crimes, violent overthrow, breach of official duty or disclosure of confidential information, or membership in or association with any subversive organization – no appeal beyond loyalty boards – no permission to confront a “confidential informant”. http://perspicuity.net/cgi/disp_day.cgi?3&22&2016

The Loyalty Oath Program should be reinstituted for a variety of reasons, it would create a tremendous amount of jobs and with the BLS doing the bean counting they could create the illusion of full employment. Since National Security is involved it would fall under Homeland Security where we would have Government Employees pestering, harassing and annoying other Government Employees rather than us serfs. It would force dual citizenship employees to declare loyalty to the US or be fired. Of course as with any oath people will lie.

As the reason for the original program was to fight Communism and National Socialism (Nazi) if we can reclassify Islam as a political movement and not a Religion we can make it illegal as we did Communism and fight as Terrorism. It is the only way we can stop the advance of Islam and the building of Mosques. I don’t see a Charles Mattel who will stop them at a Battle OF Tours. We have too many Progressives who believe we should tolerate intolerance in the name of tolerance.

The Internal Revenue Service has a list of rules on what constitutes a religion for tax purposes and by those criteria, Islam qualifies as a religion. In general, however, the courts have avoided trying to define religion so as not to pass judgment on the merits of a creed. Doing so could constitute “establishment” of what religion is and is not, which might be a breach of the Constitution in itself. Muslims themselves believe Islam to be a religion. And there is equally no question that Islam harnesses the religious impulse. But it can be argued that communism and Nazism likewise harnessed the religious impulse and that millions of people believed in those ideologies with full religious fervor and devotion. The fact of faith alone does not confer the status of religion on an ideology.

4 key things about Islam

  1. Mystical religious beliefs – all religions have this (faith) because it’s part of being a religion, having beliefs without proof. The problem is people will believe almost anything.
  2. Totalitarianism – there is no free will in Islam sharia law governs all. There is no separation of church and state in Islam: only submission to the will of Allah as conveniently determined by the imams who spew vapors to feather their own nests. there are no moderate Muslims they all support sharia law.
  3. Violence – of all religions Islam leads the pack in violent tenets for their ideology & history: containing eternal canonical imperatives for supremacy at all costs using violence & terrorism as basic tools to achieve these goals.
  4. Dishonesty – only Islam has dishonesty as a fundamental tenet.

“An important precedent was set when Utah was threatened with invasion and federal occupation unless the Mormons living there changed their religious practice of polygamy. Because the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints had a living prophet who could alter the religious tenets of the Church, essentially assigning polygamy to the afterlife, this change was made possible and Utah entered the Union after polygamy was officially banned in the territory. The Mormon Church now has protection under the religious liberty clause, but it did not while the church sanctioned and its members practiced polygamy.

It must be acknowledged that the nuclear family is the fundamental structural unit of our civilization and has perhaps been the single social element most conducive to individual happiness and fulfillment. An important precedent was set when Utah was threatened with invasion and federal occupation unless the Mormons living there changed their religious practice of polygamy. Because the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints had a living prophet who could alter the religious tenets of the Church, essentially assigning polygamy to the afterlife, this change was made possible and Utah entered the Union after polygamy was officially banned in the territory. The Mormon Church now has protection under the religious liberty clause, but it did not while the church sanctioned and its members practiced polygamy.

Polygamy is not marriage and should never be allowed protection under the idea of freedom of religion. There is little chance, however, that Islam will be changed to allow it to fit in with normal Western customs the way Mormonism was changed. A brochure distributed by the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro, Tennessee, extols the supremacy of polygamy throughout, offering it as a superior lifestyle choice, but nowhere does it even mention that polygamy is illegal in America. It openly advocates breaking the law”

The above two paragraphs and some portions have been extracted from what I consider the best article on Islam. http://www.newenglishreview.org/custpage.cfm/frm/80041/sec_id/80041

Author: Roy

80 year old retired AF officer with VA combat related disability, educated beyond my intelligence with three at taxpayer expense Degrees. I am a Deist (hedged Atheist) who believes man made god in his own image and what we call god is what I call mother nature. I agree with Bertrand Russel that with all these different religions they all cannot be right but they can all be wrong, same applies to economic theories.

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jamesthewanderer
jamesthewanderer
March 23, 2016 11:46 am

I think you would be better served classifying Islam as a mental disorder. Consider:
(1) Islamics believe someone who lived centuries ago was a “perfect man”; said perfect man was a pederast, murderer, mass murderer, and so forth.
(2) Said mass murdering pederast is centuries dead, and cannot clarify for us his motives, benefits, and so forth as driving his behavior then. The “religion” he spawned has not improved since, as it now sanctions sex slavery (ISIS), feminine genital mutilation (most of Africa), sex with dead spouses (look it up! for real), beating spouses to cause obedience, and many more objectionable practices.\
(3) Ann Barnhardt has a whole video (was on another Islam thread on this site a while back) describing sexual nastiness prevalent in Islam. Much of it is stomach-turning.
(4) Those societies which have adopted Islam cease scientific progress, tolerance (how many churches in Saudi Arabia, again?), and adopt murder (stonings), mutilations (chopping off hands for theft, a rare good point), bestiality (not always, but frequently), limited homosexuality (it’s OK with young boys, but that’s it) and so on.
So even if you try and put it positively, “I’m in favor of living according to the guidelines God gave us through the life and actions of his Prophet Muhammad and his subsequent interpreters (imams). Therefore I’m in favor of rape, sexual slavery, cutting womens’ private parts to prevent their pleasure in sex, pederasty (Aisha was 9 when taken to bed by Muhammad the pedophile), murder of adult male homosexuals who AREN’T pederasts, mutilating thieves, bestiality, and the conjunction of church and state”. WHY wouldn’t you haul such a person to the nearest asylum for life commitment, if we actually did that anymore? Doesn’t that sound like sociopathic and psycopathic behavior to you?
Islam cannot coexist with itself (Sunni vs. Shia), and cannot coexist with anything else (Christianity, Buddhism, Judaism, etc.). This sounds like the definition of a system that has to fail. Believing in Islam should be classified as mental illness, as those who believe in Socialism, Keynesian economics, Communism and real, live elves and fairies are mentally ill.
NOW we can say “restrict Islamic immigration” because we CAN refuse to import the insane into our country. Get moving, Congress!

jamesthewanderer
jamesthewanderer
March 23, 2016 12:44 pm

Roy, are you apologizing for rape, murder, sexual slavery, bestiality and religious intolerance? Of course not.

You are, however, suggesting that people might take things to extremes, and the innocent would suffer due to settling old scores, personal quarrels, persecution due to xenophobia, or whatever.

ALL I SAID WAS CLASSIFY ISLAM AS A MENTAL ILLNESS TO AUTHORIZE IMMIGRATION RESTRICTIONS. You could extrapolate to say deport those already here, and I would agree.

But your tolerance of the intolerable will set up a much greater slaughter than keeping them out in the first place. Your choice, I really don’t care; I will defend myself and mine when the time comes. You can do the same, or not.

Define mental illness? The same as the SCOTUS definition of pornography – “I know it when I see it”! And Islam qualifies, if you have eyes to see.

jamesthewanderer
jamesthewanderer
March 23, 2016 2:31 pm

It won’t BE a government operation. It will be a private, unauthorized, civilian uprising, because .gov is not even interested in starting such an operation.

We are IMPORTING Islamics under Barry O right now; they are being as-quietly-as-possible brought into the country, taken to backwoods isolation to settle in and learn English and organize jihad here, later to break out and kill us. Your wives, daughters and sisters are vulnerable to Washington DC political correctness run amok; when the Islamics run amok, they will suffer. So will you, as a non-Islamic.

It is permissible to LIE in order to advance the cause of Islam; it is in their Koran. Nothing they say can be trusted, for that reason; a sufficiently devious man can justify ANYTHING he chooses to.

Government is currently bending over backwards to justify and cover up Islamic violence in America. Ft. Hood was “workplace violence”; the San Bernadino shooters aren’t in the news now (except for the FBI seeking enhanced powers to SPY on the rest of us). Army recruiters shot at their stations, the Navy shipyard shooter, all were misunderstandings by stressed individuals.

Government is well on its way to becoming an irrelevant hazard to normal life. They won’t stop importing Islamics while killing whites in cold blood like Levoy Finicum (and Vicky Weaver and the Branch Davidians and …). Eventually, no one will listen to them – it’s hard to hear someone justifying your “pacification” while you’re fighting for your life against Islamic terrorists.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-crisis-usa-refugees-idUSBREA141ZQ20140205

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/01/28/syrian-refugees/22477773/

Why aren’t all these “refugees” being resettled in NYC, Georgetown or Boston?

rhs jr
rhs jr
March 23, 2016 3:47 pm

Some thoughts. Jesus said to make our answers yes or no, not take oaths. Muslims and other criminal minds would deceive you anyway. Do background checks and If in doubt about morals, hire somebody else. Bring back Civil Service Exams and make them very serious!

AC
AC
March 23, 2016 4:20 pm

Amendment XXVIII: No adherent of the Islamic religion shall hold United States citizenship.

bb
bb
March 23, 2016 5:20 pm

Muslims are a problem but Judaism is the problem. Both religions are satanic to the core .

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
March 23, 2016 5:56 pm

Roy says:
“Religion is the only known Psychosis that is contagious.”

If you can count liberalism, socialism, marxism, fascism and communism as psychosis then religion has some competition!