It’s time to take back, not give back
Guest post by Robert Gore at Straight Line Logic
Your cruise ship sinks, you and one other person, a stranger, are the only survivors, and your lifeboat lands on a deserted island. The two of you have no provisions. Your survival depends on wresting your sustenance from the island. You quickly learn the essentials of both economics and moral philosophy. Or you die.
Lesson one, the foundation for everything else: you are more interested in your own survival than that of your companion, and likewise. You’re both self-interested, because you have to be. The next lesson: production is the foundation of your island economy, not consumption. You can’t eat a coconut that hasn’t been gathered. Fruit must be picked, fish caught, huts built, and fresh water found. Production requires effort and an accurate assessment of reality. There are penalties, not payoffs, for sloth or delusion.
If the two of you grow tired of living hand-to-mouth and want to make life easier in the future, perhaps by setting up a fresh water delivery system or cultivating plants, you will have to plan, forego leisure time and current consumption, and use some of your resources. That’s savings and investment: using today’s surplus and effort to generate tomorrow’s improvement and wealth.
You may be better at building and maintaining huts, your companion at farming. You offer to build his hut if he’ll provide you with food: comparative advantage, voluntary exchange, and gains from trade. If he offered palm fronds for your hut, or you offered the same for his plants, there would be no trade; value must be offered for value. If one of you stole the other’s production, the victim would either incapacitate the thief or move to the other side of the island. Both thief and victim would be the poorer for it.
Let’s assume a happier outcome, that you and your companion survive, thrive, and improve your island life. You two may not like each other, but your joint interest in self-preservation has led you to production, specialization, voluntary exchange, saving, investment, and progress. You have unmistakable and irreplaceable feelings of competence, achievement, pride, and self-respect. You’re a better person than before the shipwreck.
The happy day comes when you are rescued. Or is it happy? “Civilization” turns your island economics and morality upside down. Consumption and debt, not production, saving, and investment, are believed to be the basis of the economy. Governments issue debt, pieces of paper or computer entries that might as well be palm fronds. Central banks exchange their fronds for governments’, and that’s supposedly the linchpin of the global economy. Apparently nobody needs to produce, save, or invest in order not to starve.
Or perhaps not; production, saving, and investment still occur. If, on your island there had been a third survivor who refused to work although able to do so, claiming it was your duty to keep him alive, you would have let him die with no regrets. Back in civilization, these third parties reign supreme. The self-interest motivating producers is bad; the motives of those who take from them are unquestionably good. It’s as if that hypothetical third survivor had said: “I’m virtuous because I produce nothing, you two are evil because you do, feed me,” and you had in fact fed him.
Actually, civilization is far worse. Not only are the non-productive kept alive, they’re in charge. They don’t produce, but they tax, regulate, redistribute (mostly to themselves), and mortgage the production of those who do. They wage stupid and costly wars that benefit their friends in the war and intelligence industries but increase the threats and dangers faced by everyone else. The plunge their nations into debt and have brought the global economy to the brink of ruin.
The honest and productive toil on, hoping against hope that their masters will leave them alone. As their liberties shrink while their masters’ powers increase, as the governments they fund grow ever bigger and more intrusive, they are told they have nothing to fear as long as they do nothing wrong, as defined by the masters, of course. That’s a vicious asininity. “Wrong” is always shifting and arbitrary, at the discretion of the masters, and the right—integrity and productive ability—only gets more taxed and regulated, condemned, and forcefully reminded of its duties to society, or more accurately, to the masters.
They can’t leave the productive alone; their survival depends on them. Your life, your mind, your skills, your effort, and your work are theirs, to be disposed of as they see fit. But it’s moral parasitism that makes physical parasitism possible. On the island, the nonproductive third castaway could have only survived by convincing you it was your duty to support him. History’s greatest heist, swindle, and travesty has been the never-ending effort to convince those who produce that they owe something to those who don’t. Slavery can be imposed by force, but it’s not especially productive. Convince producers that their lives are yours, and you get the production without the whips and chains. That has been the philosopher’s stone for every half-baked collectivist, redistributionist, populist, authoritarian, totalitarian pipe dreamer who ever became or wanted to become a “leader,” and their motley cohorts.
Some producers sell out: if you can’t beat ’em, join em. Some think accommodation is possible, compromise between the voracious and the devoured. If that’s your strategy, how has it worked out? And some simply give up, weary, embittered, and resigned to the incomprehensible: everybody and anybody is entitled to their lives and work except them.
Nothing is working out, things just get worse. Years worth of future production are implicitly pledged to pay the ever-mounting debt, much of which will never be repaid, no matter how high already exorbitant taxes go. Palm frond exchange between governments, central banks, and their financial co-conspirators has not produced prosperity. These leeches are sucking the life out of the global economy, which will soon emit its last desperate gasp.
Honest producers are the real victims in a world that cherishes all manner of purported victimhood. If honest producers do not make a stand, claim their lives, their minds, their efforts, their work, and their right to choose whom they support, the leeches will suck the remaining life out of them. There is no island haven of rationality, justice, and wisdom to which they can repair; resistance or slavery are the options.
Resistance begins with a moral precept, before strategy, tactics, and weapons. My life is mine. Only when you proudly insist on it, recognizing all that precept implies, will you be ready, willing, and able to fight for it with complete moral clarity.
Add to that we’re really shooting ourselves in the foot with all the illegal and legal immigration.
If we have to ‘give money away’ at least give it to American citizens. If I hear “we are a nation of immigrants” one more time – I’m going to puke on the person who says it.
Diversity = no white people. However the vast majority of all inventions and discoveries have been done by white people – an inconvenient fact.
No borders, no language, no culture – no country.
Mexicans should go back to Mexico, and the Muslims should go back to their sand box.
Dutchman, Thank you so much for commenting.
Trouble is, we keep bombing them into wanting to leave.
Why do I have to be on the island with another dude? On second thought, I’ll take the dude.
Bwuhahahaha! But! But! Whos gonna add all those purty little glamping touches to your survival shack? Mend and make your clothes from coconut fibre? .LOLOLOL…and who knows? Maybe without the ‘aid’ of psychoactive pharmacological products, a wench might just go totally SANE on an island ,…and with the right dude, remain sane. No lie! Happened to me! On an island! With the right Dude! Hes now mah Hubby. We returned to said ‘civilization ‘post 9-11. We are kinda nuts like that. Saw this was coming. Ran back towards the fire with a notion that it would need folks like us to rebuild and restore. 15 yrs later, we are doing just that. Still learning lessons from the island ! Lol
michele wells dinsmore, Thank you so much for commenting.
Iska, Thank you so much for commenting.
Stuck– You sick??
Muck
Excellent post…..
Used to be that GDP was the excess that the country produced and exported. Not anymore. Even those on the dole are considered GDP.
However the current situation is always followed by the insane arguments such as who will make the roads? Who will fight the fires?….. yada yada. Well who did that prior to government taxation?
Right! We did!
Hell I still have an all volunteer fire department 2 doors down from where I live and all volunteers live in my neighborhood. There are here within two minutes of the call.
Always buy local first before sourcing out of the country!
Trouble is… corporations have off shored their production costs to other countries, thanks to “free trade” agreements, which are anything but free.
Thank you.
“Used to be that GDP was the excess that the country produced and exported. Not anymore. Even those on the dole are considered GDP.”
Are you sure about that? I’m not disputing it. I’m just aghast if this is true.
Yep. Not sure when but closer to the 70s, i think it was they changed it. Maybe during the same timeframe as Howard Hunt and gold as currency?
Fiatman60 Thank you so much for commenting.
Stuck!! You are sick! I knew it..
Muck
Great analogy. It brought to mind Adam Smith’s “Invisible Hand” and that “wealth is created when labor is applied to resources” (also Adam Smith, I believe, paraphrased).
But it was Henry David Thoreau who claimed: “Any fool can make a rule. And any fool will mind it.”
Sitting here in Galt’s Gulch, I feel like I just read my biography.
Thanks RG.
You’re welcome and thank you.
Unaffiliated Thank you so much for commenting.
Robert a great analogy.
This world is headed to a reckoning and soon. Slavery as it existed before Civil War has been replaced with a much more dishonest and far-reaching one. It is done in name of social justice, a word I abhor, via taxation of the productive. Hardly surprising that the non producers are swelling in ranks with each passing year. .
Reminds me of a song from my youth..
how prophetic eh!
I still work but sometimes I wonder why I do. Why work when you get your Money for Nothing and your Chicks for Free.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSjKdD5cDPk
Thank you.
Rob Thank you so much for commenting.
All your base are belong to us
If I were on an island with another, I’d embrace Socialism and eat my companion. hahaha But…as Margaret Thatcher said, “The problem with Socialism is you’d eventually run out of other people to eat.”
Homer Thank you so much for commenting.
Stucky, baby… How’s your temperature? Heart rate? Breathing too fast?
Muck
Greetings,
As someone that has his own business with product sitting now in ten different nations, I can tell you how difficult government makes doing business. After all, my business is in California as well as the manufacturing. I get it from every level from local government all the way up to dealing with a wide range of foreign entities that, for some reason, charge me incredible amounts of money for the privledge of selling my products in their country.
I’m not sure why I do any of it because, quite frankly, I’m the very last person in my organization that gets paid – the very last. As much as I wish to demonstrate that it is possible to manufacture right here in the USA and build quality products, the non-productive parasites and the SJW’s make it such an uncomfortable business climate that the prospect of claiming some disability bullsh*t and going on vacation for the rest of my life sure does look appealing.
Small business is the engine that drives this nation as it is the biggest job creator and small business is responsible for 70% of all new inventions. The greater population does not understand that they are killing the goose that lays the golden egg.
They could hardly give a fuck.
NickelthroweR Thank you so much for commenting.
Excellent post, Robert; captures the lunacy with vivid, applicable examples.
Now if we could only get 50% of the country (the ones on the dole) to read it, understand it, accept it and take responsibility for themselves.
Thanks.
Culling is the only solution for 99 percent of them.
jamesthewanderer Thank you so much for commenting.
Robert Gore–You always have interesting things to say!
Thanks. Sometimes I say uninteresting things, too.
This picture sums up for me what is going on right now.
Obama, BLM, the Neocons and the social justice warriors are camped out in their citadel high above everyone else. Surrounded by what they think are insurmountable hills, and drilling into earth like mad.
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Man, that is beautiful! Is there another one somewhere, maybe without the city nearby?
It is beautiful and I am pretty sure dormant but still not a place I would want to live.
You’re jealous James! That’s Diamond Head on the South Shore of Oahu. They used to herd sheep in it. Now they herd dollars..
Muck
Whenever I hear some sort of nonsense such as “quality healthcare is a right” or “decent housing is a right”, that is when I would like to apply the ‘two people on an island test’, and ask the person making the statement; If there are only two people on an island which one is entitled to the quality healthcare and decent housing and which one is obligated to provide those rights?
I got to remember that. That’s good thinking. I believe that I’d say, “If YOU and another person were on an island…”
If you make it personal, it will make them squirm a little to give an answer.
ASIG–Sometimes Reductionism makes clear delusional ideas.
ASIG Thank you so much for commenting.
The odds of finding yourself with a shipwreck companion with intelligence, morals, and skills is almost zero.
Reality:
The “companion” would incessantly complain and bemoan the situation quickly giving up as all is lost anyway. Soon they would demand food, shelter, and access to all amenities that you produced because they deserve it and are special. Eventually, the companion will realize that you resent them and are planning on cutting them off the easy tropical paradise lifestyle to which they had become accustomed to. The companion will then invite people of low skills and aptitude from surrounding islands to increase diversity and for you to feed and provide for. They will accuse you of not providing enough. Eventually they’ll chop your head off and throw it into the sea while going Lord of the Flies around a bonfire.
Then reality will hit and they’ll turn on each other and nature (human) will take it’s course.
So true! Sadly, i am living this very scenario right now ,with a sqwatter who refuses to leave, after spending over a year here and literally waiting for others to “help” him. He suckered us with the “i’m a homeless vet” routine. Here’s the kicker, now that we’ve got him hooked up with the VA, he’s decided that we cant kick him out because hes disabled! Sometimes good intentions become a self imposed trap.
Ticky Toc Thank you so much for commenting.
The real reason we’re in this jam is the government will not do it’s constitutional duty and issue our currency debt free backed by the labor of the American workers. The central banking system has provided the paper money for this welfare/ warfare nation.Abolish the central bank and fractional reserve banking system and real economy would flourish. Made sense to Adolf Hitler . How about you folks ?You can Bitch all you want about Hitler and Fascism but what he did worked.Germany became a super power in 7 years.
Damn, bb, you survived the operation. You owe me big time. I prayed big time or maybe the Other Fellow was looking after you. He probably kept you around to torment Stucky.
bb–You don’t understand money. What happened in Germany worked until it didn’t and that goes doubly for Weimar Germany.
Damn BB you just said POCB’s
Although a bit long winded on it
But to each his own ))))))))))
bb Thank you so much for commenting.
NOT!!
Who is John Gault? Time for Ms Rand’s thoughts to ring out and the rest of the do nothings to shiver.
Big Dick Thank you so much for commenting.
Robert Core , I have read many of the articles on your blog .You know what the problems are but you never offer any solutions unless the only solution is letting the whole house of cards collapse. Are you in favor of abolishing the central banks like Hitler did ?A military coup ?
The NSA already has you on their domestic terrorist no fly list so you have nothing to lose by being honest about solutions to our problems.
bb,
I don’t believe that letting the whole house of cards collapse is a solution, but I believe that’s inevitable and must precede a solution. If you’ve read articles on my site, you know my basic precept is liberty works, coercion and force do not. After the collapse, I believe there will be an opportunity to set up enclaves of liberty, although I don’t think it will be possible throughout the entire US. In an enclave of liberty, the program is pretty simple: market determined money, both public and private adjudicatory bodies, and government limited to protection of individual rights and maintainence of any military forces necessary to protect the country from invasion. That’s it. Pre-collapse, I try to make the case for the illegitimacy of the government, the failure of command and control systems, and what I believe should emerge after the failure. I’m not the only one saying these things, but I try to approach them from my own angle and say them in my own way. I also write fiction that incorporates the same themes. I’ve got another novel coming out in a couple of months.
RG–My thinking is that there will be a breakup of the USA. The pendulum will swing back to States and counties. I think James Kunstler is correct in this regard. Whether it’s after a nuclear war, I don’t know. What I do believe is that for homo sapiens to get their act together, they have to have their current belief system about government totally destroyed. How will this change come about? Government will do it for everyone by becoming so tyranical, intrusive, and destructive to human life that man will choose it no more. In their hopelessness man will choose God and morality. Perhaps, we will be rubbing two sticks together to get fire. I hope not. I hope we wake up to the destructiveness of government. There truly are other ways to live than slavery and plunder.
Some people will never wake up or change their belief structure, but if 10% do miracles can happen.
Abraham pleaded for the people of Sodom, that they not be destroyed for their wickedness if fifty righteous were found there. He continued inquiring, reducing the number to forty five, forty, thirty, twenty, and finally if there were ten righteous in the city, it would be spared.
Surely, we have 10 righteous people in America.
Robert Gore, and the Homer,
Thanks Mr. Gore for another impassioned plea for the
people to wake up! and refuse to participate in a corrupt
system. Considering the evidence that creeps out/or roars
out, after another “shooting event”, we are starting to realize
the events have been plotted and carried out by gov. How dare
they do that to people? Propaganda against the people is legal
and constant.
Homer,
I loved your response…one smart cookie you are. So thanks.
Suzanna
Thank you.
Wow! Suzanna– That’s a first! Not to shabby for a fellow with a fourth grade edujucation. I would have went to the fifth grade, but I didn’t want to pass my dad.
Suzanna Thank you so much for commenting.
Stucky,
Thank you so much for this thank you comment…
you are the bomb, and thank you very much for commenting on the commenting.
Suzanna
It’s getting a little thick around here….
USA incorporated ruffly 1871 ,
MEANS it is a corporation !
Why the constitution is no longer in effect .
Base all premises on that , and it will start to make a little sense.
Or , do some cognitive dissonance and meander around the whole fucking situation .
Good stuff you write for the most part Mr. RG.
Just a cook , WTF could I know cept maybe a recipe or 2 ? lol
Be well sir .
Thanks.
THANK YOU! I just discovered your blog via TBP, and subbed a week or so ago. Been enjoying the dailies, and likewise, the content of comments. I’m tickled to see that you also write fiction ! Since finding blogs and folks like you via links from other blogs , I feel like I am able to customize and chose what ever I fancy in my personal ” Box o’ Chocolates!” Thanks for a very timely peice! This hits home for me . Tough lesson but grateful it occurred pre- shtf.
Thanks.
It’s going to have to collapse – because the government has become so huge, overly complex, too many rules / laws / taxes / scams / grabs / rackets / corruptions that it will crush itself under it’s own weight.
Everything tangible / nontangible reaches a point where it needs replacement. How to go about replacing it is the Question.
Homer ,thanks I think .I am still a little sore from the surgery but my stomach looks and feels normal.
You are right about Stucky. The Lord God in Heaven has seen fit to keep me around to BLESS STUCKY with my godly character and wisdom.He still has so much to learn.It’s almost like being on a mission from God himself.
Jesus loves you, bb. Everybody else thinks you’re sofa king retarded.
lol that is hilarious sir per stucky I mean 🙂
I think I am on ignore from stucky due to some unfortunate personal situations where basically I lashed out at um damn near everyone due to my absolute rage at not being able to protect those that meant the most to me .
Fight club . Well , maybe I was wrong .
I was abusive ,arguementive, and a complete ass .
Misplaced anger on my part .
My children were dying .
I was mad at the world .
I was inadequate to protect them from diseases that I had no control over .
I made mistakes
I vented in the only way I could .
Hope my human condition gives some idea of why .
I will get up that 9th time , but I was angry beyond angry .
I hope no one ever has to go thru absolute despair.
This is the only apology that I will give you sirs and madams
It is not sufficient , but dammit I am trying !
Hope you have LIFE before death !
Just a cook (((((((((((((((((((((((((((
What if you were trapped on an island with that fat bitch from BLM. If you resorted to cannibalism you could eat for months.
Pretty sure it would poison you.
diogenes Thank you so much for commenting.
Homer , it worked for 7 years until Germany was thrown into another world war which hurts any economy. Pls explain to me why the Jews declared war on Germany in 1934 .Why the allies went to war ? The first thing the allies did after they destroy Germany was set up another central bank in Germany based on the debt monetary system. Oh pls tell me great Homer in the Sky why did they do this ?????
Well. bb, I rarely come down to earth. It’s so dirty and dusty there. It takes to much time to wash my robes. But…
bb–The Germans lived ‘high on the hog’ until the bombs started falling on Hamburg. You can live pretty high on plunder which is what Germany did under the auspices of Hitler’s war machine.
I didn’t know the Jews declared war on Germany. Boy, have I got a lot to learn. Israel didn’t get going until after 1947. But I think I know what you mean. Jewish banker, if I got that straight, funded Hitler and both sides of the war.
You’re a Christian but as a Christian you can do many unChristian things. Jews can do many unJewish things too. I don’t condemn all Christianity for a few bad actions of a few Christians.
Soros, a Jew, turned in many Jews to the Germans. His reply was “Someone was going to do it.”
I don’t have that on actual facts, tho.
Why did they set up another central bank in Germany? Easy! Keynes-ism was the new mantra of economic success. The Allies were doing God’s work. Germany’s infrastructure and productivity was destroyed in the war. Germany was going to need the things that America would sell them to recover. Germany needed credit in order to rebuild. A bank was necessary to provide that credit.
That’s my understanding.
Robert Core , I have read most of you articles but do you really believe in freedom ? People are going to be free alright in every EVIL sense of the word.What did Christ tell you Robert ??.*Because of lawlessness the love of many will grow Cold…The government / states with declare Martial law . Robert I respect your writing .. but we are not going to vote our way out this mess ,pray our way our out or segregate our way out…It Will probably come down to secession and maybe another civil war. Didnmean to hog your post.
I couldn’t agree with you more that we are not going to vote our way out of this mess. It probably will come down to sucession and devolution. And yes, I believe in freedom among communities of like-minded individuals because I think if offers the only sustainable chance for humans to live together.
Don’t worry about hogging my post, and I’m glad you’re recovering from your surgery.
Howard Roarke has left the building.
Always spot on, Robert, but it would be good to hear how you’ve managed to navigate your ideological premise with your day to day life.
And if you ever get tired of where you are the NH Free State Project still needs about 18,000 like minded individuals so we can… I’d better not say.
HSF,
As far as day-to-day life goes, I think we have a similar philosophy: keep it simple. I live in Albuquerque, NM. I spend most of my time writing, for SLL and also novels. I am also involved as an investor and part-time executive of a start-up trying commercializing an innovative new technology. I grow tomatoes, green chiles, and jalapeños in my back yard and make my own salsa and pickled jalapeños. That’s not quite your effort, but it’s fun. And who knows, I might end up in NH one of these days. My life hasn’t always been completely consistent with my ideological premises, but I think it is now.
hardscrabble farmer Thank you so much for commenting.
Christianity teaches complete unselfishness. Why is anyone here complaining? Governments are simply following the precepts of Christian morality.
Jesus set up the moral ideal, by dying a horrible and screaming death by torture for strangers who sat watching, having picnics and cheering on His tormentors.
Why then does anyone complain? Are you not your brother’s keeper?
Wrong–Wrong–Wrong! You’re three for zero! SpecOpsAlpha
Government does it by force. What happens if you don’t pay your taxes? And the bible says that everyone should work, those that don’t go hungry…
SpecOpsAlpha Thank you so much for commenting.
Don’t be silly. Governments aren’t demonstrating unselfishness but the rewarding aspects of theft without consequences.
Woe to anyone who ends up on what I will claim as MY deserted island. I’ll build my own hut, start my own fire, collect my own food and water. Everyone else can fuck right off! Don’t even think about rescuing me either. Once I finally achieve some peace and solitude on this planet I’ll be damned if I give it up willingly! My biggest worry will be building weapons to repel any invaders.
Blalalalalala I fucking through with reading the obvious – so what is Gore telling the hard-working – to stop paying taxes and end up in prison sodomised by the somdomites??? IS he suggesting tax evasion. Or what? Yeah what???? yeah what what are we gonna do to get out of our slavery – Man we know what the fucking problem is dipstick. He aint telling me any new shit – he aint saying how I can stop being a host – always the fucking same – blablablablabla. Look Gore your fucking kids and grandkids are enslaved and it gonna get worse end they either gonna starve or get the Mark of the Beast – and no amount of writing and blablabla on your part is gonna change that
Why so blue Danube?
danubian Thank you so much for commenting.
Robert, i agree completely, the problem is a moral one. I’m not any kind of doomer, i believe we are about to nimbly avoid the train wreck collapse we have been barrelling towards, and i think we are about to undergo massive change as a country. All in globalization, and the corporate hand in steering policy in that direction, is at a dead end for exactly your reasons, we have long since spent everyone elses money. When 2008 got bad, some of the best operations in the businesses i’m in became losers overnight, they were just too big, overcapacity to organic demand killed them virtually overnight. Many of the multi nationals are in the same boat, i believe. Their capacity to produce dwarfs the ability of the world to absorb that production without spending counterfeit resources. One of the best comments i ever read here, someone said we should allow EBT to only purchase bread. Someone else, llpoh ,i believe, said no, only let them buy flour.
starfcker Thank you so much for commenting.
Stucky, thank you for commenting on my comment
EXCELLENT post Robert…
Thank you both starfcker and SGN.
Oh for fuck sake please stop with all the thank yous. Ass kisser. Are you running for political office?
Your article is a True Masterpiece Of Stating The Obvious. Gems like this — “you are more interested in your own survival than that of your companion,”. Wow, stop the presses and call in the National Guard!! Pablum even to the mentally challenged. If I’m ever stranded on an island with you there better be some cotton balls available so I don’t have to listen to your nattering nabob of negativity notices — “Stucky, if we don’t find water we’re gonna die.” No shit, Sherlock.
I normally charge $50 for this kind of analysis. Nevertheless, please do not thank me.
Thank you, Stucky.
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A lovely picture. Thanks again for thinking of me.
Robert Gore
Thank you for saying thank you.
Jeebus! (An initial quote from Stuck, I believe – many yeas ago)..
Now we’re going emoji but that one doesn’t look like “Thanks you”, Stuck.. I will have to revamp my diagnosis..
Muck
You guys are funny! Stucky, you want peace, meditate or medicate. No peace on this rock. If there was only one person here there would still be no peace. We are all tormented.
Laffter is better than tears when looking at our predicament.
I feel your pain Stucky.
This thread does seem to be turning into a circle jerk of thank yous!
Not wanting to turn anything connected with TBP into a circle jerk, I will, in the future, forego thank yous, unilaterally, not contingent on Stucky doing same. To all those I will no longer thank, be assured you still have my gratitude.
I think the interaction with your readers is a good thing myself…
SGN Thank you so much for commenting.
Robert
Thank you for no longer having to thank me for thanking you.
Just playing man. I appreciate anyone having the gumption to write for this forum. TBP can be a pretty tough room.
cheers
rt
It’s beer o’clock.
Go Jays!
It’s beer o’clock.
Go Rays!
Off by a letter.
There, fixed it for ya Rob.
🙂
sb
Come on Rays just win a game!
Missed it by that much..
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Rays are pitiful this year…Look for them to trade a couple of starting pitchers between now and the Aug 1st trade deadline…..Sadly for Rays fans, management still thinks Cash is blameless in this woeful mess. Too bad that Vinik doesn’t own the Rays as well as the Bolts. What do they say? WTNY……arg….
I hear you nkit. Jays are doing pretty good this year. But there were some pretty lean years..
Everyone said at start that the starters were the weak link but they have for most part pitched pretty good. Hopefully Rays can get back on track. I’d like to see the Yankees scuffle along for a couple of years. The sooner the Rays turn it around the better..
And thanks unto you Stuck!
Robert…wonderful allegory. I’ll steal it ( although I won’t represent it as mine ) and use it from time to time .
I’m in the camp of let it burn realizing fully that I may be part of the cordwood on the pyre . The Leviathan has grown so large that I doubt even our owners could have imagine the growth .
For generations F.A Hayek,Ayn Rand and others have warned us about the breeder/eater class’s impact on the productive class .
Thanks.
BUCKHED Thank you so much for commenting.
Did I leave anyone out?
If so, thank you for commenting.
Doesn’t it feel good to express your gratitude? Although in the future when you do so, you might want to combine them all into one big “thank you” post, to save the rest of us the trouble of having to scroll through multiple posts.
I missed about a week of TBP and am wondering who body snatched Stucky.
Mr. Gore,
Never mind and carry on. It feels good to get a thank you..
and keep giving us your words of wisdom.
BTW, do you have a suggestion? I mean we all know we are
swirling and choking…the threats are overwhelming. It is not
creative but practical…We have left the city for rural. I am not
kidding myself tho, we are 4 h north of Chicago by car, one of
worst cities in the nation. We better hope that EBT keeps
happening.
Susanna,
Rest assured, I’ll carry on, and I’ll still sneak in the occasional thank you. It’s the way I was raised by parents who made my life less than enjoyable when my manners slipped. As for suggestions, the one I have comes from the name of my website: Straight Line Logic. Don’t let anybody do your thinking for you, and don’t doubt the power of step-by-step, straight line common sense. And don’t underestimate the power of a question, or many questions. I don’t know what’s coming, but I do believe that it will require anyone who wants to survive to use their mind to its utmost. In a nutshell: don’t let anyone bullshit you.
Dutchman—gets 33 thumbs up for his comment
NickelthroweR—gets 25 thumbs up for his comment
I got 18 thumbs up for my brilliant comment
And we’re the only ones you don’t give a “Thank You” WTFsUWT !!!!
I’m devastated I tell you, Totally devastated!!!
Thank you EVERYONE for getting this to 100.
I knew it all along…that has been your campaign.
This thread will go down in TBP hall of records and fame as the most polite thread ever. Oddly – Stucky seems to have put it over the top.
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You’re welcome.
I, for one, really appreciate all of the courtesy and would like to thank everyone as well. Thank you for saying “thank you” and thank you for saying “you’re welcome”.
I once read in the preface of a Kurt Vonnegot novel something I never forgot:
“Love may fail, but courtesy will prevail”.
Blow me ungrateful.
Has an ironic ring to it… eh!
Twat? I cunt hear you. I have ear infucktion…
Dang it! I knew Robert Gore was too classy for us.
But thanks Rob! That’s the first compliment I got all day. 🙂
Thank you ungrateful.
Fuck that was too easy.
You assholes are ruining this thread.
For some love may fail, but courtesy will be the last to prevail.
The leaf of a palm plant or fern.
113 comments and I can feel the love on this thread. It’s pure joy to be able to contribute.
You are one of us Mr Gore, and acceptance is the greatest gift.
Thank you.
I’ve been re-reading all the comments in this thread and I realized something. I can be a real dick.
Mea Culpa, Mea Culpa, Mea Culpa!
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No comment, Stucky. I never got a thank you either for which I thank you very much..
Muck
Stucky.
Thank you for exhibiting personal growth. You are an inspiration. Truly. Thank you. Thank you very much…
WTF is a frond? Yep you can tell how often I visit the south.
The easiest description is that it is a “branch”, if you will, from a palm tree. It includes the “leaf”, generally palmate or pinnate in structure, and also the “stalk” supporting that “leaf”. Dead, dried ones are often used for the roofing of huts.
Another excellent essay by Robert Gore.
Terry Goodkind, one of my favorite authors, has his own version.
“You live is yours alone. Rise up and live it.”
To do so, you must be able to LOVE yourself, with all your strengths and weaknesses, as well as other people.
To have the COURAGE and RESPONSIBILITY to accept all of life’s challenges, on your own, without whimping out or dumping them on someone else.
To have the HUMILITY to acknowledge your limitations and the WORK ETHIC to surmount them.
Sadly, this mind set is now DoublePlusUnGoodBadThink according to the PC Codes of the Liberal Progressives, but fuck’em, I say.
Live well and joyously and let the Pajama Boys and Twigglypuffs rot in their self imposed shit holes.
Well, scrolling through those comments was 90% a waste of time. 140 comments, and maybe 14 worth reading.
Seriously, I should have trimmed my nose hair instead.
Lipoh,
Those nose hairs needed trimming in any event!!
Didn’t you laugh out loud? Thanks Stucky for making
me laugh out loud several times, all in all, very therapeutic.
Admin., and Mr. Gore, thanks to you both.
Lipoh, please don’t be a grouch…these days a good laugh is
worth it’s weight in ….Ag.