What Is America Going To Look Like When Stock, Housing, And Even Used Car Prices All Crash?

Authored by Michael Snyder via The Economic Collapse blog,

Have you ever thought about what comes after the bubble?  In 2008 we got a short preview of what life will be like, but most Americans seem to have come to the conclusion that the last financial crisis was just a minor bump in the road toward endless economic prosperity.  But of course the truth is that the ridiculously high debt-fueled standard of living that we are enjoying now is not sustainable, and after this bubble bursts it will be an extremely painful adjustment for our society.

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Since the last financial crisis, the U.S. national debt has nearly doubled, corporate debt has doubled, stock valuations have reached exceedingly ridiculous extremes, the student loan debt bubble has surpassed a trillion dollars, we are facing the largest unfunded pension crisis in U.S. history, and in many parts of the country (particularly the west coast) we are facing a housing bubble that is even worse than the one that burst in 2007 and 2008.

And even with all of these bubbles, U.S. GDP growth has been absolutely anemic.  Even if you believe the grossly manipulated numbers that the federal government puts out, the U.S. economy grew at a “miserably low” rate of just 1.6 percent in 2016…

In terms of GDP, the fourth quarter was revised up slightly, but there were adjustments for prior quarters, and overall GDP growth for the year 2016 remained at a miserably low 1.6%. We’ve come to call this the “stall speed.” It’s difficult for the US economy to stay aloft at this slow speed. As Q4 gutted any hopes for a strong finish, GDP growth in 2016 matched the worst year since the Great Recession.

And corporate profits, despite a stock market that has been surging for years, are even worse. A lot worse. They’ve declined for years. In fact, they declined for years during the prior two stock market bubbles, the dotcom bubble and the pre-Financial-Crisis bubble. Both ended in crashes.

Things have continued to get even worse early in 2016.  At this point, it is being projected that U.S. GDP will grow at an annual rate of just 0.9 percent during the first quarter of 2017.

So anyone that tries to tell you that the U.S. economy is in good shape is simply not being honest with you.

But even though things don’t look great now, they are going to look far, far worse after the biggest debt bubble in human history bursts.

For example, what do you think that America will look like after half of all stock market wealth disappears?  In a recent note to his clients, John P. Hussman stated that his team is projecting that by the end of this current market cycle “roughly half of U.S. equity market capitalization – $17 trillion in paper wealth – will simply vanish”.

And of course that projection lines up perfectly with what I have been saying for quite a while.  In order for key measures of stock market valuation (such as CAPE, etc.) to return to their long-term averages, stocks are going to have to fall at least 40 to 50 percent from their current levels.

As this coming crisis unfolds, other asset classes will experience astounding downturns as well.  This week, Morgan Stanley (one of the too big to fail banks) released a report that said that used car prices “could crash by up to 50%” over the next several years…

For months we’ve been talking about the massive lending bubble propping up the U.S. auto market. Now, noting many of the same concerns that we’ve highlighted repeatedly, Morgan Stanley’s auto team, led by Adam Jonas, has just issued a report detailing why they think used car prices could crash by up to 50% over the next 4-5 years.

Housing prices are primed for a major plunge as well.  This is especially true on the west coast where tech money and foreign purchasers from Asia have pushed home values up to dizzying levels.  Half a million dollars will be lucky to get you a “starter home” in San Francisco, and it was being reported that one poor techie living there was paying $1400 a month just to live in a closet.  Many believe that some cities on the west coast will be quite fortunate if home values only go down by 50 percent during the coming crash.

Everywhere you look there are bubbles.  In a recent piece, Daniel Lang pointed out some more of them

  • Eric Rosengren, the president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston, recently made a startling tacit admission. We may be in the midst of yet another real estate bubble. Major financial institutions in this country are in possession of over $14 trillion worth of residential real estate loans. That’s well over $40,000 for every man woman and child in America.
  • Low interest rates have fueled a bubble in subprime auto loans, and that bubble appears to be reaching its limits. There are now over 1 million ordinary and subprime auto loans that are delinquent, a number that hasn’t been this high since 2009.
  • There is now well over a trillion dollars worth of student loan debt in this country; much of it owned by low income families. And there’s little hope that these students will ever see a return on their investment. That’s why at least 27% of student loans are in default. While more than one in four students are in default now, that number was one in nine a decade ago. And if current trends continue, there could be $3.3 trillion of student loan debt by the end of the next decade.

At some point the imbalances become just too great and the system collapses in upon itself.

In other words, we are heading for a massive implosion.

And once the implosion happens, people are going to go absolutely nuts.  Anger and frustration are already rising to the boiling point all over the country, and it isn’t going to take much to push millions of Americans completely over the edge.

In a recent interview with Greg Hunter, author James Rickards warned that when things get really bad in America we could actually see what he refers to as “money riots”

So, could we be facing a “Mad Max” world if the financial system totally crashes? Rickards says, “In ‘Road to Ruin,’ I talk about what I call the money riots.  There is a lot of reasons for rioting.  When you start shutting banks and the stock exchange and they say you can’t get your money, it’s only temporary, trust us, people will go out and start to burn down banks.  The government is ready for that also with emergency response and martial law. . . . Governments don’t go down without a fight. . . . You can see the shutdown coming because they will try to buy time until they come up with a solution, whether it’s gold, Special Drawing Rights (SDR), guarantees or whatever it might be.  There are only two or three possibilities here, but all of them will take time, and they will have to shut down the system. . . . People will not sit for that.  So, that means people will riot.  They’ll burn down banks.  They will smash windows, but what is the reaction to that?  The answer is martial law, militarized police, actual military units and you get something that looks like fascism pretty quickly.”

I very much agree with his assessment.

All it is going to take is another major financial crisis and this nation will go completely and utterly insane.

Unfortunately, all of our long-term economic problems have proceeded to get a lot worse since the last time around, and so when things fall apart this time we will likely be looking at a scenario that is absolutely unprecedented in American history.

A lot of people have become very complacent out there these days, but that is a huge mistake.

Just because a crisis is delayed does not mean that it is canceled.  And because our leaders have kept making this economic bubble larger and larger, that just means that the coming crisis will be even more painful than it otherwise could have been.

 

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Boat Guy
Boat Guy
April 4, 2017 8:07 am

So , Ron Paul has been totally correct for nearly 40 years and the band of thriving kiniving low life lieing basturds from Wall Street To K-Street To Capitol Street managed to pull off the heist of the milenium . As we the great unwashed we’re forced to sit and witness it , pay for it and now are indebted to it as they skip off with a bonus ! OK they win the money , good luck spending it ! There will be blood !
I know a 6 plus figure federal employee that works in some alphabet agency in DC , he compiles figures so the powers that be can continue the big lie . I wonder how he will feel about himself when we tell him his pension is dust in the wind . That’s what people get when they lie for a living and eventually get caught . Oh I know the Nuremberg excuse “Just Doing My Job”

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
April 4, 2017 8:17 am

I shall rise above this trainwreck just as my NCAA brackets have done. 97% bitches!!!

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
  Administrator
April 4, 2017 8:56 am

3 > 75 lol

BB
BB
April 4, 2017 8:25 am

When we finally do collapse the governments emergency response will be ” martial law “.In many places America will look like a war zone. Avoid the big urban areas if possible.They will probably be nightmares of lawlessness and violence.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  BB
April 4, 2017 10:11 am

Avoid the minority dominated parts of them and you will probably be OK, even now if you avoid them you are probably safer than you are anywhere in Europe.

I’ll let you decide which minority parts to avoid, it may depend on the part of the country you are in to at least some degree.

CCRider
CCRider
April 4, 2017 9:47 am

What will America look like after the great reckoning? Like we deserve to.

Just John
Just John
April 4, 2017 9:47 am

I’m going to say that approximately 95% of Americans have NO FREAKING CLUE as to what’s headed their way. IMO, Mad Max was a fairy tale compared to what’s headed our way.

NickelthroweR
NickelthroweR
April 4, 2017 10:06 am

Greetings,

I believe that every one of these rackets will continue because TINA. We have an economy of rackets.

Out here where I live is a very large population of homeless people. What will happen is that those who can move in with others and those that can not will live in their SUV’s and those that do not have that will join the zombies.

Barnum Bailey
Barnum Bailey
  NickelthroweR
April 4, 2017 1:27 pm

I think they’ve gone on this long BECAUSE of TINA, but our antebellum times cannot survive much of an increase in interest rates.

We’re living in a house of cards made of IOU’s. The value of those IOU’s is entirely a function of interest rates.

Rising rates are like taking the steel girders out of a high-rise building. It doesn’t really matter if there’s no alternative to living in the penthouse if the building comes apart at the seams.

The result is the same: We’re all Barney Rubble.

catfish
catfish
April 4, 2017 10:29 am

Lordy more bullshit from Snyder – the tosser who told everyone that a mega catastrophe was lined up for 23rd September 2015.

The Mystery Of September 23: Why Does 9/23 Keep Popping Up All Over the Place?

He should keep his friggin’ cakehole shut – the fucking’ugly balding shyster.

Rdawg
Rdawg
  catfish
April 4, 2017 11:34 pm

Former DC lawyer Snyder is a fundy moron. He has to generate the clicks, since he’s apparently decided to make a living off these here interwebz.

I remember that 9/23 bullshit well. Here’s a gem from his article: “I want to make it clear that I am not claiming that anything specific will happen on any particular date. But I am not claiming that nothing will happen on any of these days either.”

Brilliant. What’s even better is the comment section. Full of sycophants kissing his ass, telling him how smart and pious he is for spreadin’ the Lawd’s Word.

Shark
Shark
April 4, 2017 10:34 am

The sky is falling, the sky is falling!

Yeah, okay…every year, it’s doom porn stories flooding the Internet, half from self-appointed Cassandras and half from hucksters selling survivalist crap products. Yet, these prophecies never seem to bear fruit.

I’m a realist – – I had twenty years in the Marine Corps to give me perspective, and I’ve bought weapons, ammo, food stocks & water, so if it comes right down to it, I can zip away from the major city nearby (already a crime-infested jungle) to my hidey-hole in the woods in the middle of the night and weather the storm for a good long time.

Maybe the worldwide economic system will collapse, maybe a comet will smash into the Earth, maybe the sky will rain blood and frogs…whatever. Yeah, okay guys, calm down, but be prepared. * Yawn *

Barnum Bailey
Barnum Bailey
April 4, 2017 12:28 pm

We’ve had a credit bubble of historic proportion.

It was fueled by unconscious herding optimism (same as all the Utopian political policies like racial equality, eliminating poverty, etc.)

It was enabled by removing a consistent yardstick from money (by taking silver and gold out of dollars.)

It was amplified by a coincident bull market for bonds from 1981 until August of last year. During this time, every dollar spent by Congress (or any corporation) did TWO things: it cascaded through the economy to raise GDP while simultaneously the debt created was treated as an asset, just like Accounts Receivable.

This had the effect of a feedback loop. The more “wealth” in bonds people had, the richer they felt, the easier time they had rationalizing ever higher prices in stocks, houses, cars, etc.

ALL of it rests on the wealth value of the bond market, which is entirely a function of interest rates. Rising rates destroy the value of EXISTING bonds, and we are now clearly in a rising rate environment. No man or group of men controls interest rates.

Peak trust leads to declining trust, and then no trust at all.

Today people trust that their stocks will not crater in value. They trust that their bank will give them their savings deposited whenever they ask. They trust that the promises of future cash flows (pensions, Social Security, Medical subsidies in Medicare, etc.) will be delivered.

None of it will happen. None of it CAN happen (the math simply doesn’t work out.)

When this crisis FINALLY arrives, it will manifest as a SHORTAGE OF MONEY.

During inflationary times (which is most of the time), owning STUFF is wise because its price will only rise (and at least until you sell, you can’t be taxed on the rise in value.)

During deflationary times, owning STUFF is unwise. It will be available tomorrow for a lower price, and if you need to sell, you’ll be selling into an illiquid market. (Housing is the WORST for this.)

Owning “cash” (any claim on money that cannot or will not be defaulted upon) during a deflation is best. Unfortunately, serious deflation is very, very rare and fleeting.

Stocking up on “cash” is thus very, very difficult, punishing and unrewarding.

If someone has a way out of that box, I’m all ears.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Barnum Bailey
April 4, 2017 5:28 pm

Get completely out of debt if you expect deflation, during a deflation your debt stays the same but the money available to pay it drys up.

As Farmers during the Dust Bowl and many others during the Depression discovered.

Richard Collins
Richard Collins
  Barnum Bailey
April 5, 2017 12:58 am

Wow owning stuff during deflation is a no-no. Try and hock nothing. Try and build with nothing. Try and survive with nothing.

In deflationary times the individual with excess capital is king. The man who has resources calls the tune.

Barnum Bailey
Barnum Bailey
  Richard Collins
April 5, 2017 8:33 am

Own nothing for investment purposes.
“Own” nothing that is mortgaged (if possible, given housing realities.)

That’s all I meant. Own tools you might need.

I might add, if globalism dies (as I think it will and it should), lots of stuff available today will become UNAVAILABLE at any price.

The cornucopia we enjoy today will end. Most of it is sustained with fake money anyway.

rhs jr
rhs jr
April 4, 2017 3:03 pm

I believe athletes, actors, professors, singers, sellers & bureaucrats will get what they’re really worth; most politicians, banksters, shysters and black robed tyrants won’t hang very happy; the repairmen will survive as well as the holders of the precious metals brass and lead; Farmers, ranchers, medics and tailors will prosper; Urban Jungles not so well.

Barnum Bailey
Barnum Bailey
  rhs jr
April 4, 2017 3:20 pm

What about cobblers? I keep thinking I need to learn a trade…and involuntary premature retirement leaves me the time….

In all seriousness, I doubt our black-robed tyrants (or other assorted ilk) will hang. They’ll fade into irrelevance, which for them might well be a fate worse than death.

What happens to these clowns when they realize they can issue their edicts and their legislation and their rants and NO ONE PAYS THEM ANY ATTENTION?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Barnum Bailey
April 4, 2017 5:31 pm

That’s what happened during the end of the Soviet Union, maybe something similar here?