Guest Post by The Zman
The warning when you are young is to avoid falling in with a bad crowd. This almost always means staying away from the older crowd as they will talk you into doing things that you are not prepared to handle, like drugs or crime. The peculiarity of my upbringing meant that I spent my youth around an older crowd, that was all bad, but I avoided the worst of it. Now that I am on the down-slope of life, speeding down toward the inevitable, I find myself hanging around on-line with a younger crowd and they are all bad.
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I’ve never cared for generational politics so maybe that’s why I have no trouble with the younger generation. In my youth, I was forced to sit through endless lectures by Baby Boomer teachers about how Generation X was a bunch of slackers. By the time I reached high school, I could, from memory, draw maps of the Ho Chi Min Trail and recite the playlist at Woodstock, despite having no interest in either. I’ve always thought that my generation’s disinterest was due to having to sit through so many Boomer sermons.
If you are a Boomer reading this, you are no doubt outraged, scandalized and offended at my comments. Just to be clear, I’m not talking about you. You are an exception. In fact, you are unique, like a snowflake, a special creation that stands in stark contrast to the conformity of your coevals. You’re special! That’s always been the amusing part about Boomer culture. They love talking about themselves, but hate it when others talk about them. Everyone is conservative about what think they know best, as Derb would say.
As I said, I’ve never been into generational politics. When I was a teen in the 80’s, having to hear lectures about Gen X being deficient, always left me wondering what they called the kids who came along in the late 70’s? They were technically Boomers, but they were nothing like the people who came of age in the 60’s. Now I’m told that kids who came of age in the 90’s are calling themselves Gen X, which is probably fine to a point. I suspect they are rejecting Gen-Y because it sounds feminine, as in Y-chromosome.
Anyway, hanging around the bad kids on-line, I’ve noted their extreme hostility to Baby Boomers and Boomer politics. It’s not the normal youthful rejection of their parent’s stuff as their parents are not Boomers. In the case of the 20-somethings, their parents are my generation. Their grandparents are the Boomers. This means the so-called Gen-Z and Millennials literally want to push granny off a cliff. I’ve read screeds by youngsters to that effect. They really hate the Boomers and not in an abstract way.
The coming Boomercide, if it happens, is going to be triggered by some portly old guys in comfort waist slacks, showing up at an alt-right rally wearing tricorne hats, preaching “heritage not hate.” It is the Boomer impulse to accept the morality of the Left while pretending to reject the consequence of it, that enrages the youth. Whatever you want to say about the alt-right kids, they have this one thing right. Boomer politics is all about the so-called conservatives swearing that the liberals are the real racists, as if it matters.
A big part of this is the Boomer willingness to trust the media. I know. I know. You don’t trust the media. You know they are just a bunch of socialist liberal pinko Democrats. But, that’s just a way of trusting the media. There’s a big difference, a categorical difference, between thinking the media is honestly “biased toward one side” and thinking the media is just a deeply cynical public relations arm for the administrative state. Almost all Boomers will accept the former, while few accept the latter.
This is part of the great generational divide between the young hate thinkers and the Baby Boomers. The young have no trust in public institutions. This is not a thing particular to the alt-right. Bernie Bros are always moaning about the system. The stupid little girl jammed up on espionage charges acted on the basis that the system is illegitimate and lacks authority over her. That’s why she did not think twice about doing what she did. In her mind, the government and its agents are the enemy, with whom she is at war.
This trust in public institutions among Boomers is natural. Most of them grew up in a high trust culture. When they watched TV in the 50’s, the people making the shows were in love with America and promoted 1950’s values. Even into the 60’s, the mass media was supportive of America. When the culture began to collapse, the media seemed to be on the side of those good hearted Progressives trying to make things better for blacks, Jews, women and the disposed around the world. The media was all about good intentions.
Later generations came of age assuming that what was on television was a deliberate lie intended to have them buy stuff. Today’s youth have come of age in a time when the media is clearly the church choir for the managerial elite. Those who take the blue pill, get jobs in the media, singing whatever is in their hymnals. Those who take the red pill, view the media the same way the IRA looked at the Irish, who worked for the British security forces. As a result, they see the Boomers as gullible idiots.
Another aspect of the generation animosity is the Boomer enthusiasm for punching Right, in order to cozy up to the Left. Bill Mitchell is probably the most obvious example. He has turned himself into a cartoon in order to avoid being lumped in with the people the Progs have labeled “far right.” The other day a person on Gab pulled out this old take down of Bill Whittle by Steve Sailer, as an example of Boomer perfidy. In fairness to Whittle, he appears to have taken the red pill, but we’ll see if it holds when the Progs attack him.
All of this could simply be a bit of cosmic justice. The generally accepted theory is that Western culture collapsed in the 1960’s when the English speaking world allowed their kids to pull down the institutions that made all of it possible. That is certainly true. In fact, the Boomers have been like a wave of locusts, sweeping through each aspect of the culture as they aged, leaving nothing but waste behind them. In the 60’s and 70’s they destroyed social norms. The 80’s they destroyed education. The 90’s is was politics.
As the Boomers head into their golden years, they are prepared to bankrupt Western society by becoming a great financial burden, but the youth have other ideas. It would be amusing if the Boomers are eventually vanquished by a youth movement that is, at its heart, an embrace of everything the Boomers rejected. I cannot find an example of restoration genocide, but there is a first time for everything. The phrase “you have to go back” will become the slogan of this thing for a number of reasons.
Not being a boomer or a youth, I have no dog in this fight. I know, I know. “First they came for the Boomers and I did nothing because I am not a Boomer.” That’s a chance I’m willing to take. My guess is Gen-X will be just as easy for the kids to ignore as we were for the Boomers. There’s a lot of Boomers to push off a cliff, so my bet is they wear themselves out before they get to me anyway. At that point, I may have died from excessive amusement, so bring on the Boomercide!
Rambling and non- sensical……hateful and simplistic.
jesus in a chicken basket, I must agree, wish I had those few seconds of my life back. Like some rambling confused person high on chemtrail aluminum. Boomers were on to something in the late 60s then crapped out. My one sentence is more rational than this whole ramble.
This is not one of Quinn’s posts!
This is the Zman… Yup, that idiot.
Hey Jim, compose drunk, post sober.
That’s twice today.
So much for the TBP community being on top of things.
Whoa… Wait a f’in minute!
This is not the first time Jim has posted a piece by the Zman and failed to credit the Zman!!
Something smells rotten in Kulpsville, PA.
What about it Jim. Are you the Zman?
Check this out: The Shallowest Generation.
Coincidence?
The boomers were onto something in the late sixties. Those that went into govt ran up against the exact same thing tRump is running up against…….the ubiquitous deep state which has always been present in one way or another. Once they got the lay of the land, they sold out and set about cashing in because that was more realistic and less painful than looking like a nail to the hammers of TPTB.
From then on it’s been downhill on rails (now with grease to reduce the friction). That hard right at the bottom of that hill is going to be a real bitch though. If we can avoid nuking ourselves the cycle will start over again.
Words….lots of words…..meaning? who knows?
Not every post by Jim needs to be a goddamn statistical scalpel. Sometimes those of us going through shitty situations in our familial microcosm, while simultaneously watching the global macrocosm go to Hell around us, just need some shit thrown at the wall. This is one of my top Jim-Posts. Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.
Greetings,
Something of substance would focus on the simple fact that the boomers must offload all of their assets in order to fund their retirements. Who is going to pick up their homes, cars, IRA’s, 401K, etc? Supply & Demand suggests that an oversupply of everything the boomers thought would fund them is close at hand. Then what?
Salient points, but I guess at this exact moment in my life, I wanted a Sam Adams and not a Thomas Jefferson.
To “gender confusion” we can now add “generation confusion”…
Red pill, blue pill. It was simpler in my day. Red pills were seconal, blues were tuanol. No matter which one you took, it ended the same. So, aren’t most teachers of the young from the generation before them? You clearly are generation ?, and yes the boomers call you that behind your back.
– another locust
The Boomers plan to extort the productivity of the Millennials to satisfy the promises Boomers made to themselves. A more likely course is the Sulla like proscriptions against Boomers where Millennials put finances on an even keel by not only ‘breaking’ the promises they didn’t make, but by seizing the wealth of the Boomers as they are executed for treason. I know not all Boomers, but declare Soros a traitor on Monday, seize his wealth (the legalistic term is asset forfeiture, but its take his shit), declare Bezos a traitor Tuesday seize his wealth, Gates Wednesday seize his wealth, the Walton and Rockefeller offspring might take a week or so. Zuckerberg isn’t a Boomer, but this is less about age than ideology. so he will get strung up and his wealth can pay for the Marine Corps for a year. By the time we work our way through those who betrayed our people, we can pay off the debt, have a tax cut and a balanced budget.
Sore ass isn’t a Boomer FWIW. He and Zuckerberg are both assholes so we can have a new subdivision of types.
As for Boomer promises made to themselves, Boomers were only old enough to first vote in about 1967 with the last first voters about 1986-87. All of this shit society has been saddled with primarily was the work of “the Greatest Generation” and whatever we call the one before them.
Yes, Prog shithead boomers and stealth fellow travelers like the Bush clan did plenty of crap too. In twenty years we will see the wisdom of the Snowflakes turn to shit before our eyes just like the great boondoggles every generation believes will be their great and lasting legacy.
That is why I included the ‘I know not all boomers” preface. But we can string up the worst of the Greatest, Silent, Boomer and X generations. And take their shit.
Where do you get this “we” shit, basket boy? What “we” do you consider yourself a part of? Let me know as soon as you string somebody up and “take their shit”. I’m in for a long wait, I suppose.
Well, Mr. Ed, the we is ‘us’ in the us vs them. If you don’t know whether you’re ‘us’ or ‘them’ you’re most likely lying to yourself, but either way, you’ll figure it out soon enough. I personally (most likely) won’t be stringing anyone up. It’ll be all legalistic like and official. They’ll be clowns in black robes up on the high bench. They’ll be other clowns in costumes with badges and guns. There will be paperwork and even probably stenographers and official transcripts. But the who is on the invite list and who is on the menu in terms of gov’t extortion is going to reverse. I won’t take your stuff any more than I directly fund the Marine Corps now, but if you’re ‘them’ don’t you worry. We’ll respect your life, liberty and property just as thoroughly as the fedgov currently respects the IVth and Xth amendments.
How long have the Boomers had control over our govt.? What, are 25 years not enough to repeal shit they allegedly are so opposed to? No, of course not! Spare me the crap about the Silent McCains and the X Cottons. The overwhelming majority of Congress is Boomer. Instead of CREATING more worthless govt. agencies (DHS), doubling the size of govt., and nearly quadrupling the debt, perhaps they could have rebuilt our infrastructure instead of Iraq’s???
“The Boomers plan to extort the productivity of the Millennials to satisfy the promises Boomers made to themselves”
That can’t be overstated. Boomers elected boomers who promised them the moon, but in reality it was the boomer generation promising themselves unrealistic benefits. Now they cry when younger generations don’t want to pay it. I love my grandparents, who are boomers, but every time I hear them complain about not getting a good enough raise in their SS benefits, it annoys the shit out of me. First, because they seem to be completely unaware that there is no ‘trust fund’ and that the pols they voted for their entire lives squandered the money they paid in, so what they are demanding is that the government take more money out of my paycheck and hand it to them. Second, they actually did save for retirement, and would be just fine without any SS at all.
However, it does need to be pointed out- my generation (im 32) isn’t sounding much better. Its them out there demanding free college, free healthcare, a ‘living wage’ regardless of if they work or not, etc. At least 50% of millenials sound like they want to ‘roll grandma off the cliff’ not because they object to voting yourself free shit, but because they want a larger chunk of the free shit for themselves.
You know, when my wife was diagnosed with cancer at 37 about a month ago, that’s what started me questioning everything. I mean everything. Millennials to me seem like an echo of the Boomers, but misguided more than evil…perhaps because most of them were raised by that narcissistic band of psychos.
I never thought I’d reach the point where I’d go fully Galt but in a year, that’s exactly what I’m going to do. Leave a fantastic position with fantastic annual bonuses and go off the grid. I’d like to say I will thoroughly enjoy the nuclear war the Boomers are fomenting, but unfortunately, my apple trees and me aren’t guaranteed to make it out of such a shitshow…
So, it’s everybody except your generation, huh? Looking around for somebody to blame is a distraction. Keep that up and you and your apple trees will be fucked without your having ever done anything.
” I suspect they are rejecting Gen-Y because it sounds feminine, as in Y-chromosome.”
Y-chromosome is masculine, just sayin’.
” y” you gotta point out mistakes like that? “x” cuse Admin. He might be hungover!?
I’m glad I’m not the only one who noticed that.
“It is the Boomer impulse to accept the morality of the Left while pretending to reject the consequence of it, that enrages the youth.”
BAM! There it is.
In my opinion, as just your average Nomad kickin’ ass and takin’ names.
Who the heck is accepting the left as having anything to do with morality? We aren’t all in Manhattan or Malibu.
The repudiation of morality is simply the flip side of the morality coin. Heads or tails, it is still morality. Make cents?
Gen-x have a reason to be disgusted with their Boomer Parents and grand parents ! We all stood by helpless as corporate CEO’s and political reps pilliged and plundered our entire economy for personal gains as our pensions and salaries and job values plummeted into the shitter and we did not do a thing ! The harder “THEY” fucked us the more we scurried about like cats covering up shit to make something work for us . A few were successful but most just hang on by a thread . When the job and pension theft started so should our second American revolution started . Gen-x lost respect for us and no wonder we should have clubbed a multitude of politicians , fared and feathered a few and hung a few more in the local squares . I bet our nation would be a lot better off economically from diligent force used against our note OUR GOVERNMENT !
Boomers didn’t act with malice. It’s more like evil prevailed because the good men among them did nothing. They pretended the country and society wasn’t being “fundamentally transformed.” They moved to the suburbs and buried their heads in the sand.
Too busy working to send you assholes to college?
A bit rambling and should have been edited to a couple of paragraphs. I see his point on some, and feel he’s full of shit on some others.
Baby Boomers are those born between the end of WW2 and 1965. It would have added a bit of credibility if our writer knew that.
As for the rest of his BS, come and take it “bitches.” Regardless of outcome, at the end there will be a pile of empty magazines and brass around me and a whole lot of dead and maimed whining little phuques on the perimeter. I also have a very strong feeling Grandpa won’t be alone because my kids and grandkids think guys like him and these Boomer killing marauders he foresees are an enemy to be ground up and deposited in a good old regulation dual purpose ditch.
If it gets down to tribalism, a strong tribe will fight as one.
Love it, Jim. You penned a brilliant abstract of what I’ve been thinking for years. The Millennials are utterly clueless, but there’s something worse: The utterly EXHAUSTING, PARASITIC Boomer cohort.
Oh, suck my dick, you fuckin Xer. One in ten million of you motherfuckers have even done a day’s work in your lives.
Guess I’m the one in 10 million! The 9,999,999 probably include 80% previously productive individuals who you fucking narcissists actually think will be there to fund your entitlements. So sawwy, enjoy trying to acquire graftable rootstocks and scions when postal service is non-existent, and at 80 years old! Muhahahahha
“suck my dick, you fuckin Xer. One in ten million of you motherfuckers have even done a day’s work”
The opening is a sex-themed insult. The “one in ten million” is a ridiculous anti-intellectual generalization. The vague lambasting of laziness is probably projection.
One of my entertainments is to go through comments and see how many of the Deadly Sins could reasonably be ascribed to the commenter.
Sexual insult – lust, wrath, and pride
Intellectual laziness- sloth
vague accusation of nonproductive status – pride, envy, and implicit sloth
Unfortunately the comment didn’t address money and food, or else he would have had a chance to score all seven with avarice and gluttony.
All in all, he gets a raw score of five, but only wrath, pride, sloth, and envy are strongly represented, so he gets marked down to four out of seven deadly sins.
….little too close to home hey Anonymous?
black vs. white, illegal alien vs. gringo, heteronormatives vs. LGBTQIAAblahblah, nationalist vs. globalist, socialist vs. capitalist, 99% vs. 1%, women vs. men, and now young vs. old. i think they can say “mission accomplished” now.
Good Heavens! It is news to me that the younger generation thinks the only good Boomer is one who lives under a bridge, poverty stricken and afraid of youthful people. Terrifying.
Not too well written which made it all the more horrifying!
If you weren’t around for the 1960’s you missed the greatest decade ever. It was time on speed. Major events taking place every year, assassinations, nuclear showdowns, the Beatles and Dylan, riots in our cities that dwarf anything since. A draft for an unpopular war.
That was generational conflict not the pissant shit you are trying to manufacture.
Give it time to marinate. Fun times for the city slickers and urban sprawlers!
There weren’t any “grief counselors” like all the little peepants have today because somebody got a hang nail. These guys have no idea what it was like every week finding out which friend or neighbor or guy from your high school just got killed in Vietnam.
With the utmost of respect to the Vietnam vets (they deserve to be treated with dignity given a bullshit draft), perhaps the rest of you should have razed DC to the ground instead of smoked every last cannabis stalk at Woodstock. All the non-Vietnam vets did was flash a fucking Peace sign and smoke Leary’s pole.
Since the Boomers failed, your generation should feel free to raze DC to the ground.
It can be accomplished much more peacefully and in spectacular fiscal calamity, *if* enough of us go Galt. I’m not holding my breath yet. I just know that *I* am gradually going to stop feeding the beast over the next year…once my wife beats her ailment and I’m done paying $6k for biopsies that cost a few hundred for the Boomers in mid-life not so long ago.
Who’s stopping you from doing what you think your parents failed to do? I’ll wait for news of your new French Revolution if you’ll ever step away from the keyboard and do something.
BTW, I doubt that any of the Vietnam Vets you’re damning with faint praise would piss on you if your fucking hair was on fire. You ain’t fixin to do shit except bang on your keyboard.
French Revolution would have been far more suitable for the Boomers’ quixotic Marxist/Robespierre leanings — if they had had the balls. Which obviously they didn’t. I could give a flying fuck if the Nam vets would piss on me or not. I’m not asking for anything from them and I’m not getting sucked into your baiting regarding them.
As for doing something about our mess? The only way to bring this corruption to its knees — given the Boomer adeptness (Chambers, Gates, Ellison, etc.) at creating this Orwellian system — is to opt out. You all have been too good at destroying the lives of folks like Snowden to do anything other than decrease revenues. So you can tell your Boomer cohort Dimon to continue being concerned about the millions of men 25-54 not employed. We aren’t interested in paying bennies for Boomers.
AOC- You WON’T BE ASKED TO pay bennies for boomers.
Stop sniveling…….
That’s right. I forgot you fucks will continue to rape your children with government force to get it. Well o e day they will either opt out or go Illinois. You ingrates just are still in utter denial and think the system is fixable. Have fun with that windmill! Lmfao
AOC- I/WE are the victims not YOU…not our children. You won’t pay for the crash of the SS ponzi nor will my children or grand children…..BUT I SURE PAID OUT THE ASS. All citizens will receive income payments and medicare for everyone, so STFU.
Again, stop sniveling and man up. (You’re embarrassing yourself manchild)
BL you are too goddamn obtuse to get it. I don’t give a rat’s ass about me. This is about what you monsters have done to my children. I have them financially set. But what fucking country has 25 years of Boomer catastrophe left them with? So they have the means to escape like the wealthy Jews fled Deutschland. But to where??? You all singlehandedly accomplished what no other generation in American history has — a poorer progeny in the aggregate, personally and nationally! Jesus Christ man, you’re either deluded or too busy humping doorknobs.
Articleboy, you sound like one of the deluded Jew haters, except that instead of everything being the fault of the eevull joos, it’s the fault of the eevull boomers.
Ride your little hobbyhorse off a cliff and see how much good it does.
Ed- ARTICLES has been huffing glue again. When he AND his kids start getting their UBI payment maybe he will STFU.
Mr. Ed, quit fucking whinnying so much and address the facts. Stop with the stupid “evil joos” comparisons. The Boomers aborted more kids than any generation in American history — tens of millions. They had the highest divorce rates. They had the lowest church attendance. They created the America in which we live, from corporatism to militarism! And you all dare to chastise those who proceeded you without even giving us reach-arounds???
You OWN the single family household. You OWN the unsustainable SS worker:retiree ratios — surely you aren’t too stupid to realize most of those 45 million abortions would have been productive citizens? You OWN the postmodernism prevailing in this culture.
The personal attacks are damn funny if puerile, but fail to address the fact that you all are NOT sitting pretty in the world right now. Rightly or wrongly, you all should be terrified. Not of those of us Xers who chose to GTFO of the way and grow food in peace, but because the Millennials are showing how hot their anger runs.
Hate to tell you man, but revolutions — true revolutions — are born from youth. And Xers will NOT be there to save you, no matter how stupid and clueless the Millennials’ revolutionary spirits are misguided. Truthfully, their rage scares the shit outta me because it’s more like the Jacobins and Bolsheviks. The American Revolution was an Xer war…completely different.
The riots staged by the anti-fascists are good comic relief. Hell I witnessed more severe ass whupping at a 60s’ college beer bust than I have seen at these “riots” I have also observed the rioters are more tolerant now that the other side has started fighting back.
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I’d pay plenty to see what would happen to a crowd of black clad punks that would try to attack Boomer Grandad Jerry Miculek or his Boomer Grandma wife Kay. After they shot the first thirty of them in about five seconds, all the following injuries would be from the rats running over each other to escape.
News flash: The Xers won’t be wasting their time “rioting” and “pillaging” with the Millennials. Nope! We’ve had enough time not to be 100% looted…a time when we could actually afford to pay our ways through college on 7/11 salaries. We’re busy hoarding, planting, and waiting for what you twats are cooking…whether you know you’re cooking it or not.
Lots of us likely won’t make it. But we never had anyone sheltering us from shit storms in our childhoods and can see them coming from a mile away. Enjoy your 401ks. I’ll take my arable land.
It’s funny how easy it is to spot the boomer comments, and how many of them are in complete denial over the utter fucking mess they have made of society, and left for Gen-X/Y/Zyklon to try and survive – and how dedicated they seem to be to preventing anyone from even attempting to start addressing the consequences of their actions for as long as possible regardless of the negative consequences for younger generations.
You stupid little cocksucker. This shit was done to us, not by us. You must think that voting creates a welfare/warfare state. How did one generation of people accomplish all the evil done by government in the past 160 years?
Go suck a turd out of your granny’s ass.
Heh, you just proved ‘ol AC right. Good job!
Don’t forget to feign concern and ‘virtue signal’ about how you’re worried about the world your kids and grandkids will live in’….it’ll seem more real if you yank out a nose hair for a little tear in your eye.
I don’t think many younger people realize what a letter from the US government once meant.
“Greetings from the President” it would begin. No, he was not soliciting a campaign contribution or asking for your political support. He was TELLING you to report for active military duty not to defend the United States but to achieve a ‘foreign policy objective’.
You think you have too powerful a government today? Can you even imagine what that letter from the President once meant. It wasn’t a mere inconvenience or some petty regulation you must comply with or a tax increase. It was your life being disrupted and put in great jeopardy.
When I went for my induction physical in Philadelphia, we were told to pack our toothbrush and clothes because you could be grabbed that day; they could literally pull you off the bus that was going home and induct you into the army in the same day. It was called the draft. Millennial bitches don’t have to worry about it.
If you think Boomers are going to let you walk in and steal the silverware, you’re in for an unpleasant, and quite probably, terminal surprise. We can work together against the common enemy or we can fight each other to the death. If the latter, I would not count on Grandpa strolling over the cliff without protest.
Look at how many so-called Greatest Generation people are still in charge. The Senate is full of pre 1946 people and the House has way too many.
Facts are, the first Boomers in power were people like the Clintons and lots of your post 1966 shitheads voted for them! Then these same assholes voted for Obungle.
Be very careful who you are blaming for today’s problems. WE are all those over 55 unemployable, lost our job at the factory etc. etc. people. Maybe some of those Master of the Universe types on Wall Street fit the age bracket but a whole lot of those guys are still pre 1945’s too. Half the President’s cabinet I think are pre 45’s.
I guess I’m saying the blame game is bullshit. Snap out of it and try to do something positive. I haven’t quit even though I’m obviously an old asshole proud deplorable.
Great article on the fourth turning, without mentioning the fourth turning.
Don’t forget the champion is supposed to be a silver hair type.
I don’t think Jim wrote this as some of you think. It is too hard to read, too much rambling and nonsensical. Some statements are counter to what he typically states. It is too different. Who wrote this article?
The Z-man.
Admin posts his essays here all the time, but in this case, he just forgot to attribute it correctly.
I usually do not like your take on things. After browsing your website, and getting a good sense of who the Z-Man is, I’ll pass on your posts for now on.
Forgot? Are you sure?
SOME of the Boomers are as you described. MANY are not.
Your “curriculum” sounds like an exercise in shallow stupidity. Were you a Liberal Arts grad, may I ask? Because in engineering the curriculum looked more like:
Mathematics (algebra & trigonometry if you needed remedial), Calculus I/II/III/IV, Differential Equations, partial differential equations, numerical methods (for things that didn’t solve with the earlier stuff)
If a chemical engineer, then General/Organic/Physical chemistry (a year of each), I took Polymers as well
I ACT’d out of a year of Freshman English, took the second year in Honors classes
A couple of history classes, American and something else
Thermodynamics (two courses worth)
Various specialist courses in Unit Operations (heat transfer, distillation, leaching and extraction, and so on)
Electives (psych and sociology in my case)
NONE of these spent any time on Boomer activity (other than the wars in history), Woodstock, etc. The professors were mostly aged mid-50’s and might have served in Korea or similar; the youngest might have been in Nam, but never said so. I learned about the Ho Chi Minh trail in books.
You were cheated of an education if Boomer activity was the highlight. Go sue for your money back.
Yes, the author had to be in college during the late ’90s if his profs were preaching such shit about his grandparents.
Fuck all you haters, this sounds like classic Quinn. Whoever it was that wrote it nailed it to the wall.
Gen X ers saw the failure and selling out of our previously independent media before any other group in our society (except Vietnam vets) as narrative after narrative failed, falling away before our very eyes. We just adapted and overcame and went about the business of building our lives. We tried to hold on to the proven ways of our Grandparents generation, working hard , saving, staying out of debt.
The current nomad generation came of age during a new paradigm in the american experience, many of us came from broken homes. We were left to raise ourselves and figure things out on our own. This might explain why gen X ers have such a deep and profound distrust of many totems that boomers worship with messianic fever.
If you are a boomer at TBP, realize that you are not like your peer group. As the article says you are a unique snowflake, I have learned much from many of you but your generation (my parents) has fucked things up to a fine fair the well.
I love America and have lived the american dream. But 911 finally crushed the America f*** yeah narrative for me. The absolute devastation of that day moved my assemblage point to a place I didn’t even realized existed. After the grief of bringing out the dead on that day and the days following I mourned for the loss of the world as I had known it. For at that moment I knew it would never return.
So let the games begin You boomers on the TBP should be safe as you have seen the troubles ahead and hedged accordingly. Don’t lose any sleep for the lose of the majority of your generation they had many chances to embrace the truth, hoist the pirate flag and slit some throats, now they might as well just slit their wrists.
We Gen xers simply want to live in peace. We did not seek out this tidal wave in history, nor the darkness and destruction sure to follow in the wake. The circumstances of this fourth turning will force our hand. Once our action is unleashed the genie won’t be easily shoved back in the bottle. All bets will be off. With the help of the new (hero?) generation we will set things right.
Preach it norman! I’ve always felt that when/if X’ers ever break bad it’s going to be *severe*. I think X’ers have far more in common with the latest Gen Zero than the millenials.
Agree. I almost feel bad when the next Sam Adams or (my ancestor) Francis Marion rears his ugly head. Almost.
I’m here every day (almost). I come on shift at 6:00 AM Pacific.
BTW – Norman – I think you nailed it. My F-I-L boomer almost has a stroke whenever we talk about anything outside of the weather. I don’t think he likes my Gen-X’er take on things.
Well said Norman!
Left unsaid are the dark forces manipulating behind the scenes. The Deep State players (all generations) are the minions of the 0.01% who are smart enough to remain hidden.
Another thing to watch for and we’re seeing it already: the ‘divide & conquer’ strategy. Class warfare and generational warfare will have us cutting each other’s’ throats to divert our attention and energy from the 0.01%.
Thanks Gerold, after my last article I got taken to task for the whole 1% narrative (Rightfully so) and have since come to see it is really the 0.00001% that is destroying the future. Probably just 15-20 families and a few thousand hangers on.
And you are spot on about the divide and concur strategy, if it keeps being successful they (( the 0.00001%)) won’t even have to hide when TSHTF.
As a bona-fide Baby Boomer perhaps I am entitled to observe that the accusations leveled by the author at the Boomer generation are essentially true. Their error was to believe and embrace the junk-culture memes of their day and in this they are little different than preceding and succeeding generations. Their parents had murdered their aunts and uncles in Europe and a strange tribe of aliens appearing nightly on the screens of something called television scared them with lurid tales of fantastical monsters they called “Hitler” and “Nazis”; but not to worry because sex, drugs, rock & roll, inflation, debt, racial integration, and universal taxation would pull them through. It is no wonder it became every man for himself, and has been ever since. (I may add that not all Boomers bought into all this, but the exceptions are few and invisible.)
All this rubbish about “red pill” vs “blue pill” is just another junk culture meme by which the Enemy seeks to confuse, distract, divide and conquer the ignorant masses. The real issue underlying everything is that of Race and Territory. The Enemy has transmogrified the Aryan race into a mob of helpless neoterics with their mass junk culture in order to destroy us as a race and to take our territories. What the Boomers’ successors need to consider is that, having embraced the mindless materialism meme, Boomers thus constitute, in spite of their errors, the glue holding together what remains of the wreck of Western Civilization to which everyone still clings. But we have arrived at the time when the Boomers have begun to retire/die. When this process runs its course, then what? What percentage of Millennials and/or gens. X-N have the knowledge, intellect, and temperament necessary to take over the reins of the State/Military/Economic machine upon which they depend, two percent? Five percent? Do the math. We Boomers listened to the Enemy back in the seventies and eighties when he said there was a “population bomb” looming, and we must reproduce less. Consequently, we have left insufficient progeny to fill our admittedly inadequate shoes. The resulting collapse is as inevitable as it will be complete. Oh, and bear in mind: the population of Africa is slated to more than double by the year 2050. Africa has already all but depleted its once ample resources. Where are the refugees heading? Enjoy your disaster with our compliments.
Of course, one could stop, contemplate, realize that Hitler Was Right, disengage from Enemy junk culture, and help us prepare for the coming Golden Age after the Debacle; but I know that would be pretty extreme for most of you.
This article reeks of jealousy. Younger generations have always envied the Boomers for the carefree lifestyles they were able to afford and enjoy. They have done nothing but copy the boomers ever since…to the extent that american culture has largely stagnated since the 70’s. If kids today could be transported back in time 40-50 years they would think they had died and gone to heaven. After a week they wouldnt even miss their iPhones.
The problem with your theory is that they were only able to ‘afford it’ by voting/promising themselves benefits to be paid for by their children and grand children. If they were able to afford it, the government wouldn’t be 20T in debt, with a good chunk of that paying for the ‘care free lifestyle’ you describe. After all, why save for the future and retirement when you have voted yourselves free shit for life, to be taken out of your children and grand children’s hides? Easy to live a carefree lifestyle in those circumstances.
The US was an industrial powerhouse in the sixties and that is why the baby boomers had it so good. We made more steel than Japan, Germany or China. Our cars were beautiful and powerful. European and Japanese cars were small and ugly. We produced all our own oil in the sixties and most of consumer goods too.
The seventies were the beginning of our decline. OPEC trebled the price of oil and this put our auto industry on its back foot. Those 427 cubic inch engines used a lot of gas and European and Japanese cars didn’t. Quality suffered too as drugs made their way from the Haight Ashbury to the assembly line. By the eighties American industry was hollowed out and the FIRE economy became dominant. Making things became less important than financing them.
Whose ‘fault’ was it? Well we all share some of the blame and the younger generation will bear the burden. Voting became an exercise in ‘gimme’. Why raise the revenue to pay for worthless government programs if you could borrow it. Working for the government became a better job that working in the private sector.
Wrong, Gator. I didn’t vote/promise myself anything. What I managed to get, I got by working and saving, while paying taxes and being held back by regulations. If you think that you can earn enough to buy property, pay for everything a family needs to live and still manage to do anything more than just survive by voting/ promising yourself something, go ahead and try it.
The debt didn’t really explode to current levels until your generation was old enough to vote, so by your standard, it’s all your fucking fault.
The debt boom started with saint reagan of the conservatives, who increased the debt something like 270% during his reign. His admin also spawned the glorious ‘deficits don’t matter’ mantra thats apparently driven our government ever since. Who put him into office? The debt bomb was inevitable once Nixon removed the last tenuous link of gold to the dollar. Who put him into office? For that matter, who elected Bush? My generation can accept partial blame for Obama, though, Ill give you that. You’re still a fucking idiot who is misunderstanding my point though.
It’s ALL because of debt-based fiat currency. Period. It wouldn’t matter in the least who voted for whom when if there had been sound money for the past seven decades. Politicians and voters are ALWAYS going to take the easy path–voters always want free shit and politicians always want to provide it. ONLY breaking from sound money allows them to provide it.
Votes don’t matter…the talking heads we elect don’t matter. It’s ALL about how money is created and who has the power to do so.
Largest category two years running, more than healthcare – are recreational vehicles financed for 20 fucking years…..yeah, we Xer’s are emulating you boomers….right……wake the fuck up. We don’t aspire to be like you – we see and call bullshit on your crybaby generation who apparently couldn’t get ready with double digit returns in their peak earning years and more.
McCain & Pelosi are both members of The Silent Generation. Some of the boomers had lots of help from prior generations. I was born 1959 so a little kid in the 1960’s. Labeled a baby boomer but more in common with Generation X.
Great article and odds are people over 60 have no clue how much they disenfranchised younger people because so many of the old farts are total narcissists. It would be a total abstraction to them they aren’t Gods gift to humanity and lots of people would be revolted by the ME Generation which is a more fitting term for the teenagers of the 1950’s & 60’s who looted the country.
I’m with Bob. The article nails it pretty well, excepting perhaps a few minor points. The Boomers really do trust the institutions, even when the institutions don’t deserve to be trusted. Great example was Scott Adams’ posted article proclaiming that because the lawyers won’t agree on the obstruction case against Trump, the answer must not be clear. The lawyers decide their position on laws based on what they they want the law to say. I can’t understand why anyone believes a damn thing any lawyer says, knowing they whore themselves out to whoever is paying. That is a clear example of a Boomer who doesn’t even get that his “trust” of the institutions is obscuring his ability to recognize the truth. So yeah. And yes, I can’t stand old people in general even though I’m soon to totally qualify as one.
I just finished reading an article at the .. Occidental Dissent.. website called ” A rootless , Traditionaless Race ” by AJ Pamplin.Posted today will give you alot of answers as to how we are so fucked.A little long but otherwise will answer your questions.
Read that too.
Jim, in case you haven’t seen it:
http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2017/06/11/a-rootless-traditionless-race/
Now, now, Do we all need a big group hug? This article (can I even call it that?) appears to abandon any lucid attempt to identify the basis for our current reality. And those of you who are feeding into it with your personal investment in identity politics are just another part of the dysfunction. I won’t tell you to get a life. You already have one. But please, please, get a grip.
Gotta say that I had to suspend all rational reactions just to read through the aftermath, gauntlet of blame and finger pointing. There have been many excellent pieces in TBP since I started reading it 8 months ago, but this submission is intended to create lots of heat and very little light. Perhaps next time we catch ourselves preening in the mirror we should point the accusing finger at our reflection.
“…but this submission is intended to create lots of heat and very little light….”
Welcome to TBP. It’s far tamer than it used to be but this used to be TBP bread and butter. It’s why the regulars are called shit flinging monkeys. It’s a badge of honor around here to stir and fling shit. Eight months is not long enough these days to know the dynamic of TBP.
A lot of you guys are really missing the point of this article. The point is, regardless of who is to blame, many young people percieve, correctly or incorrectly, that they are being bankrupted and forced to pay for a bunch of free shit or old people that they KNOW they themselves will never get. They will get angry. Eventually they will be in charge, and it may not be pretty or nice when it happens. Remember, they don’t have to literally push anyone off a cliff, they just have to refuse, in mass, to pay for it. Whose fault it really is, or which generation is truly the worst one ever, or the most to blame, whatever, is not the point of this article.
Bingo. My goal within the next year is to reduce my take-home pay by 50% — at the least. It’s going to be one hell of an adjustment. But it’s well past time to starve the beast as I REFUSE to pay for the parasites any longer. Denninger is right. There’s only one way to peacefully effect change and that is to Opt Out and starve the beast. The only winning move is to not play the game.
ARTICLES- I commend anyone who had the balz to starve the beast. That is all real nice but blaming a generation of slaves on a slave planet that took it up the ass is deluded. Seriously, you need to get a grip ……. and you called me obtuse, Har Har. GO FOR IT ARTICLES, I will be your biggest cheerleader….starve the beast.
Maybe you’re right. Not saying I have all of the solutions or have even identified all of the problems. I just know that a LOT of the problems that drive me batshit crazy are traced directly back to the Boomer generational cohort. Maybe they aren’t problems to others, or maybe they aren’t even all of the problems…but the level of excess that was pissed away, and the complete disregard for their progeny…?
I’m not even sure how it will play out, quitting this job. It’s a fucking huge risk with three kids. But WTF else can a sane person do than make a huge bank withdrawal out of this shitshow. 9 years in the making, and gradually, is all I could do.
I agree with you gator, I know I will never get back the money I put in social security. And it was a lot, as I was paying 15 self employment penalty. I have told my millennial kids they will never get that money either. I also taught them there is no shame in not going along with this scam, maybe at some point…. Neither my mom or dad need the money, I know they paid in but at 82 and 81 they have already pulled out more than they ever put in. Nice work if you can get it. I am not jealous but the rape that their grandkids and great grandkids will receive for this really pisses me off. So yeah you millennials should say f*** all and start learning the meaning of ‘resist much obey little.’ Most of the nomads will have your back if you pick the right targets.
To whom it may concern: Young people will not be asked to pay for shit.
The articles about UBI (Universal Base Income) are NOT fantasy. Gen X and minnies, ridiculous as they are, won’t even be asked to pay their own way, which is a MUCH BETTER DEAL than I ever got from TPTB!! I actually spent my ENTIRE LIFE paying for all of the retired seniors SS/Medicare and all the niggers (black, white and brown versions) for Welfare/Food Stamps/Section 8 Housing etc., ect. and etc. (And care and feeding of my offsrings, plus education).
Oh sure WE fucked things up soooo much we even punished ourselves by paying for everyone in the countries for an entire fukkin lifetime.
Stop blaming me, I am going on 13 years since my last vacation as I also pay for grandchildren to have the extras…..you really can’t call me selfish or reckless, now can you?
Bea, I guess these younguns plan on just shooting all us old fuckers. I don’t know why, because I don’t get any of the bennies they’re raving about and I’ve always been an outcast among the people they’re mad at.
OK, then. Y’all go ahead and do whatever you think is a good idea. I got to be as old as I am now by out-toughing young, entitled pissants like y’all. Fuck anybody who blames this shit on me just because of the year I was born. Fuck’em and feed’em fish heads.
Ed- What a bunch of whiney pussies.
Yep, what a gaggle of fags, jacking off with one hand and pointing fingers at everybody but the real culprits with the other.
I think that we Boomers are survivors who have been pissed about the same stuff as the more recently exposed contingents here and for Hell of a lot longer. Still, if they can succeed I think all the old phuqueres would root for them wholeheartedly.
Comments about never doing or trying anything simply ignores a lot of blood and history.
no mention of what you did to EARN the money
Bl and Ed
No one is blaming you. Since you are here at TBP obviously you are not suffering the kind of extreme CD that affects most of your generation.
You two, along with other boomers here at TBP fought the good fight. The money that was extorted from you had more value than today, But it also started at a much lower rate. I paid the 15% social security to the max most of my working life. I knew I would never see a dime of it again. The thing that gets me is that if the shoe fits wear it. It doesn’t fit for you since you have your eyes wide open. You defend your generation like someone defends a political party or a sports ball team. Most of the boomers I know in meat space don’t give a fuck about any of this as long as no one upsets their applecart.
You may be right about your generation being rapped worse than any other before. Going forward however the rape you received will pale in comparison to whats in store for everyone else in the not too distant future.
You can embrace your unique position as the wizened elders that you are, or you can keep defending those who resist any change or tweek that might be a step in the right direction
P.S BL I will try your 7.83 hz some night when I can’t sleep. Thanks
Norm- I really sleep harder under 4.32hz, suit yourself which is best for you. Let me know what you think as I would be interested to know if you have the same results. 🙂
I’m not defending anybody who resists change, Norman. I’m defending myself from generalizations being made by people who are too fucking blind to see who did the dirty deeds. You and your pals are no better at thinking than you are at trying to express yourselves in words.
I was awake to what you’re whining about before you were born. If that makes me a “wizened elder”, fine. I’m an elder, nonetheless.
Apparently, Gator, you and your little pal articles of confederation are perceiving, incorrectly, that everything government has done is all the fault of your parents and those of that generation. You’re right about refusing to pay for what government is doing.
Glad you woke up a little about the point of the article. Your parents will appreciate your letting them off the hook you hung them on with your earlier comments.
You’re right, Gator. Perception is everything.
My Millennial godson, normally a level-headed fellow, was mewling about the older generation robbing his future. I belted him while his mother calmly sat and watched. We’re in the Fourth Turning, we’re in a Stealth Depression that began (take your pick) between 2000 and 2008 that’s being covered-up with government bullshit statistics and their water-carriers, the ass media.
Another thing no one’s talking about. The great depression and WW II destroyed a lot of the elite’s wealth. The re-building between 1945 (the ‘Greatest Generation’) and about 1975-80 (Boomers) fueled a period of unprecedented prosperity for the middle class. Even the blue collars could ‘afford all the toys.’
We’re now seeing the pendulum swing back from that prosperous extreme. It’s called ‘reversion to the mean’ and it’s painful. Get used to it because this shit-storm has a long way to go.
It’s said that “after every depression, money is returned to its rightful owners.” We’re about to find out who those owners are, but it won’t be any particular generation.
Myopia of the first order.
I have paid into SS since my first job, back in 1981. They came after me because I HADN’T paid SS on my previous job – hauling hay in the summer a couple of times! Anyway, I have paid into this crap of a fraudulent seizure for nearly forty years.
I do NOT expect to collect a dime – and if I collected $100,000 , by the time I get it, it will be WORTH a dime! The Feds collect money and spend it like drunken sailors, then DEPRECIATE the currency towards worthlessness as fast as the servers can generate 1s and 0s!
Do you get it yet? I didn’t vote for SS, none of my [cohort] of late-onset Boomers did (I don’t really consider myself a Boomer, I’m a citizen like most others), but WE have paid into it all our lives and probably will see no benefit. How are we different again, Millenial? You have barely STARTED to pay in, and may not see a decade before it all falls down.
When I was growing up, I was sold a line of bull that went, “Your retirement planning should be like a three-legged stool: SS, private pensions and private savings. The three, together, will support you in your golden years”.
Fast-forward four decades: SS is bankrupt because they spent all the reserves. Private pensions are almost non-existent: forced vehicles like 401(k)s, invested in the biggest bubble of a stock market ever (after being raped with fees for Wall St. firms), will disappear when the bubbles burst. [I actually have two private pensions supposedly coming from my earlier working life: if I’m lucky, the two together might pay for beer and cigarettes, and I don’t smoke or drink (much)]. I converted a few 401(k)s to IRAs when I left jobs; I’m still down from investment value after thirty years. Private savings haven’t made any interest for the last decade because of the Fed’s ZIRP policy. If you can’t earn interest, how are savings supposed to grow again?
Boomers (and everyone else) have been RAPED by Wall St., the Federal Reserve and the government all their lives. I hope to die a free man, roasting rabbits over a fire of Fed files in the ruins of D.C., after the Crunch makes all Feds unemployed and having to become hunter-gatherers like the rest of us.
jtdw, every law should have a built in sunset clause so that EVERY generations gets to vote on whether to continue, modify or end it. Failing to vote one way or another results in automatic repeal as do ties.
Indeed, much akin to Jefferson’s view that we needed a ConCon every 20 years. He thought it the pinnacle of immorality for one generation to burden another with its debt. Especially war debt.
Indent Service ,you should pay more taxes asshole and pay just for sport .Now bug off.
This is what he said
Anonyhole, if you’re saying that what James wrote is like the teacher’s voice in a Charlie Brown cartoon, try reading it.
I used to be a workaholic and went Galt. Cashed out of the rat race in my 40’s and got setup in the backwoods and now game the system that used to game me. When I cut & split firewood I don’t have to give half to the government so they can redistribute it to the neighbors so they can waste if having a bonfire for fun while claiming it’s for the children. Same deal with the garden, the government doesn’t take half of it and tell me it’s for the children as in other peoples children.
I used to be a target, now I’m a taker instead of a giver. I’m clawing back what I worked for. Biff & Muffy robbed me for years and said it’s for the children. Now their children are grown and I’m going to take from Biff & Muffy and their trophy children who are now adults an owe me because I paid for their so called education & lifestyle long enough.
I smell a lot of Boomer flatulence in the comments. You can tell the truth of a post by the vehement denials it receives. Especially by those who have talked themselves into believing they are part of the “new religion”. LOL.
“In fact, the Boomers have been like a wave of locusts, sweeping through each aspect of the culture as they aged, leaving nothing but waste behind them. In the 60’s and 70’s they destroyed social norms. The 80’s they destroyed education. The 90’s is was politics.”
I’ve been saying this for years. Boomers suck the oxygen out of everything they touch, leaving nothing behind them. First generation in US history to do this, with horrendous results.
Highest abortion rates, highest divorce rates, lowest church attendance. They’re worse than worthless…they’re narcissistic murderers.
Ten bucks says ARTICLES lives off somebody, parents/girlfriend/friends. Never had a real job and never paid in to anything, including the bill for the internet that he also sponges WHILE HE DOES NOT WORK.
He’s a pajama boy sipping his latte with his keyboard blazing while SOMEBODY went to work today……right ARTICLES? Are you a dindu ARTICLES?
Haha don’t I wish, you sorry excuse for an enlarged prostate. Don’t I wish. How about addressing the facts about your cohort. Just own up to the fact that you all kicked your descendants and their nation in the nuts.
Art- Leave my prostate out of this.
Haha touche. No hard feelings you fucking douchebag. Good to blow off some steam. Thanks.
when i came home from VNAM i saw not the america i left but shits that hated ever thing but conlyould not tell you why, lets smoke dope get high do drugs i hated them then and still do, This amercia went to hell with FDR when people say i want they are saying i want free things, all of them have become little shits the go to school go in debt then want someone else to pay. the only thing i can really says they have nothing but not wanting every thing. i have a gift for them a 556
How does that saying go? Write drunk, post sober? Something like that.
Nut
Let me axe you a question?
Do you think that I and other boomers paid for SS/Medicare/SS Disability for our ENTIRE lifetime because we wanted to (most of us paid in the max amount each year)? How were we sucking the oxygen out of everything? We at least paid without being pussies about it.
Same goes for all the domestic and global welfare safety nets and giveaways that we paid for, maybe there won’t be a lot left when we leave BECAUSE WE WERE ROBBED AND RAPED BY TPTB worse than any other generation……..did that ever occur to to you jr?
Just like a Boomer to assume that because someone calls you out they must not be a Boomer. The more you guys talk the more you make my point. And don’t call me Junior, daddy’ll come knock some sense into you. “We paid”, horseshit, you and your generation worldwide have created social welfare nets which you then looted and robbed. “We paid”, typical fucking Boomer response, again I say you leave behind much less then you were given by your betters. Fucking leeches.
Boomers in Denial
Drive imported cars or cars made by foreign companies that suck boatloads of money out of this country or gas hog trucks. The trade deficit they don’t care about it or if they use every last drop of cheap oil. Too bad for future generations who get $20 trillion in unpaid bills the ME Generation ran up and on top of that the ME Generation promised themselves lavish retirements and didn’t save a penny to fund them.
The Me Generation created Food Stamp Nation as they sold out the working class by playing them off against third world labor.
Divorces and single mothers is another gift from the ME Generation. Boomers had lots of help from people born prior to 1945. The Silent Generation is just as guilty of being selfish as the Boomers.
The ME Generation turned the country into a third world nation. The top 10% to 20% looted the country for decades while blowing smoke up everyone’s butts who complained. How’s the NEW Economy and Global Economy crap working out ? Half of Gen-Y lives at home while tons more live off government assistance.
The ME Generation created our culture and todays economy while believing they are educated. Spending on education has ballooned after a generation of con artist sold it as the answer to the failing economy. Another yuppie scam in action. We now have 10’s of millions of underemployed people with college degree’s after decades of the ME Generation education lie.
Bob- You are COMPLETELY FOS! Wall Street does not represent my generation, ditto fake government voting in giveaways.
You better step back and look at Gen X and minnies if you want to complain about degenerates who have bastard children and sponge off the system, TALK ABOUT LOOTERS. You are a hypocrite of the first order.
BL, you are in denial and like most of your generation want to blame it all on Wall Street. Here on Main Street the little people got elected to state & local government and sold out the young.
Nobody from Wall Street tried to chase me out of a Ford dealership or tried to tell me I couldn’t by a small house.
Bob- I can’t help that you have bad credit and are unable to purchase a home or a Ford. Build that credit back up Bob and stop blaming the boomers for your fuckups.
BL, your stupid comment proves your generation is incompetent. I have a great credit score and paid cash for house & car so your comment is part of the reason younger people are revolted by the A-Hole ME Generation.
You said it Bob not me , If you paid cash why make that statement?
If you paid cash for your home/car, why are you complaining ? Boomers built a world where you have prospered ya fukkin maroon.
BL, you don’t get out much do you ? Boomers destroyed the country.
Tell ya what Bob, you panty wastes keep keep blaming us for everything and we will live up to every inch of the bullshit you have piled on. My your days be long and hard, jr.
If you have time, I wrote a lengthy article a few years ago that’s still relevant today and addresses this socialist, entitlement, generational-warfare mentality. Although it’s from a Canadian perspective, the arguments apply across borders.
Socialist Envy, Canadian Style
Boomer here. A tail end one to be exact. You credit us with way too much. The first wave of boom-booms were either sent to Vietnam, or were weaponized in college by the first wave of tenure professors. The later became darlings of Cultural Marxists. My wave went to college in droves, only to become bobble headed repeaters of either our educated olde siblings’ lunacy or Ronnie Reagan’s Any Rand’s neo con wonder world. Having said all that, if any boomer had an original idea, our heads would fall off. In other words, we’re not the problem; just silly little fools. But at least we cared for our parents…. and lots of abandon grandkids.
Boomers suffer from the most common human condition. Human nature is immoral,godless,murderous ,thieving and covetous. What is new.
There are a hundred million-odd unemployed workers in this country. I still get work, and it’s not because I’m over 55 – it’s because I DO work, CAN work, and can do things that are in some rarity and demand even in this economy. That’s reality – if all you can do is bitch, well, there’s plenty of folks who can do that, and few who can do what I do well.
I’ve been either working or going to university since 1981: I was out of a job for about eighteen months during Bush II, went back and earned two more degrees and found a niche as a consultant.
The clients I work for don’t care that I’m not pretty, not fashionable and not on social media. They have work they need done and I do it; then I get paid. Bitching about my kids, someone else’s kids or the bastard TPTB doesn’t enter in to it; designing production facilities that work is the job.
You can bitch about Boomers, Millennials, Gen-X-ers or whoever. The people who made this world the way it is didn’t work on production lines, in factories or plants. They went to Ivy League colleges and private schools; they met others like them there, got degrees in Business or Finance or Law or Medicine, and slipped into positions where they could learn how to buy influence, structure derivatives or run campaigns, and quietly and cunningly stuck it to the rest of us. You are paying for other people to run your life, and as long as you pay taxes that cost you more than you receive in benefits, you are the sucker.
It’s a trade-off, though: not paying any taxes generally lands you in jail, unless you’re GE or Apple or similar. Funny, that: some of the biggest companies pay little or no taxes because their lobbyists and accountants and lawyers and “representatives” get loopholes written into the tax code to shield them. Where is the AMT for corporations?
Keep looking: you’re correct that you’re being screwed, but it’s not the Boomers that are doing it / did it. When you figure it out, let the rest of us know.
I don’t find any value in blaming Dad. If one generation supposes they can forget their ancestors, I’m happy to take up the torch. Dad’s weakness is not mine.
Let me ask an unpopular question: what is capital?
Another unpopular question: Who is a capitalist?
YOU own your life. Fuck Dad, fuck whoever you think is a “boomer”.
Grow up you sniveling shits.
Dad fucked up. Lots, as it turns out. Can you learn, or can’t you learn?
There is a great scene in the movie “Payback” that is so very appropriate for this entire thread and the best dialog goes something like: “My money. Yes or no?”
Your Daddy issues hurt, but do you really understand why, as a man–why it always comes down to money?
Capital is savings. Sacrifice. Delayed gratification.
It’s meaningful in a world of spendthrifts to be a saver. Don’t try to pretend like your Dad is the only one that doesn’t understand. Lots of your buddies don’t get this concept either, and you know it.
My money. Yes or no?
Just an observation, I have many clients who are Gen Xers and I have the opportunity to know how they spend their money and who they owe on what. To be perfectly honest, they don’t seem to be a bit different from boomers. I don’t have one Xer who has a home free and clear that they purchased. A few have inherited homes from the parents you say leave nothing behind.
From what I have seen, the 40’s and 50’s aged Xers here in this area tend to spend more on homes than my boomer clients and trust me they have mortgages and car payments and eat out more than at home. So my question is how are these two groups any different? Seriously, what is the difference?
I don’t see the Xers making any noble sacrifice, quite the opposite. They are big time vacationers, want to buy new cars with a lien attached and have mortgages on their homes larger than most of the boomers. And trust me, they are not big savers by any stretch. Things may be a little different here because there are not hords of Xers living with a parent/parents as you see with minnies.
Of the the three or four Gen X I know who live with family, it is because they went belly up due to maxed out credit and lack of resposible spending and divorces.
I think ever since WW2 this country has just been on a steady slope into a shit stew. It wasn’t just the Boomers (although they piss me off). It wasn’t just the FED (although it pisses me off). It wasn’t just one single thing or even a combo of things. The country got complacent, then spoiled, then completely degraded.
Shit, I remember how much more simplistic life was in the early 80s, when there were only three fucking brands of baseball cards: Topps, Donruss, Fleer. That’s it. Baseball players stayed with the same team their entire careers. Ripken was everything to me. Then everything went completely consumerist. I don’t even recognize anything anymore.
The Boomers royally piss me off. But something snapped before them, way before them. All I know is that even the perennially compromising Silents smell shit coming. Old Pat is a good bellwether…it was a pleasure campaigning for him as a kid at one time. Shame people didn’t listen to him then.