Trump To Launch Trade War With China On Friday, Beijing Vows Retaliation

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Yesterday, the WSJ reported that the Trump administration is planning to begin a probe of what the U.S. sees as violations of intellectual property by China. Against a backdrop of Trump’s frustrations with domestic policy, sliding approval ratings and disagreement with China over North Korea, the chances of protectionist action are rising, as is the probability of a “hot”, retaliatory trade war. This morning ow learn when Trump is set to fire the first shot. Reuters reports, citing White House officials, that President Trump is expected to make a speech and sign a memorandum at the White House on tomorrow, Friday, that will target China’s intellectual property and trade practices, effectively firing the first shot in what could escalate into a major US-China trade war.

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This will be the opening salvo to several months of trade actions, and is expected to be followed by actions on steel and aluminum dumping — which could include tariffs and quotas — and subsequent measures to protect services, and comes at a time when Trump has become increasingly frustrated with the level of support from Beijing to pressure Pyongyang to give up its nuclear and missile program.

Trump has said in the past that China would get better treatment on trade with the United States if it acted more forcefully against Pyongyang. Beijing has said its influence on North Korea is limited. China has countered that trade between the two nations benefits both sides, and that Beijing is willing to improve trade ties. A senior Chinese official said on Monday there was no link between North Korea’s nuclear program and China-U.S. trade.

As Axios adds, administration officials say Trump is doing this because of complaints he’s heard from Silicon Valley executives saying Chinese IP theft is one of their biggest challenges. Allegedly, Peter Thiel has been involved in crafting this new step.

In a rare show of bipartisanship, on Wednesday three top Democratic senators urged the president to stand up to Beijing, perhaps in hopes of further deteriorating the US economy and thus shortening Trump’s tenure even more. Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer pressed the Republican president to skip the investigation and go straight to trade action against China.

“We should certainly go after them,” said Schumer in a statement. Senators Ron Wyden of Oregon and Sherrod Brown of Ohio also urged Trump to rein in China.

That’s all Trump needed to hear.

So what happens next? About a week after Trump’s announcement, the U.S. Trade Representative, Robert Lighthizer, is expected to announce that he’s initiating an investigation into unfair Chinese trade practices — using a rarely-used tool, section 301 of the Trade Act of 1974. The investigation paves the path to the U.S. taking potentially aggressive retaliatory actions against China such as tariffs on Chinese imports or rescinding licenses for Chinese companies wanting to do business in the U.S.

U.S. Section 301 investigations have not led to trade sanctions since the WTO was launched in 1995. In the 1980s, Section 301 tariffs were levied against Japanese motorcycles, steel and other products. “This could merely be leverage for bilateral negotiations,” James Bacchus, a former WTO chief judge and USTR official, said of a China intellectual property probe.

To be sure, Chinese IP theft is nothing new, and has long been an issue for major US tech companies like Microsoft and prior administrations. It’s also a major issue for agriculture and manufacturing – and any sector that has proprietary information related to their production practices. However, in the past, U.S. administrations and companies have been wary about publicly confronting the Chinese government, preferring to do things behind closed doors and in a more diplomatic approach.

Meanwhile, China denied all accusations. Ministry of Commerce spokesman Gao Feng said Thursday that China pays “high attention” to intellectual property and wants to maintain good cooperation with the U.S, Bloomberg reported. Still, China has for some time had countervailing measures at the ready in case a trade spat erupts, including legal constraints on foreign companies and import curbs on specific sectors.

And just to make sure that Beijing’s position on trade war is loud and lear, China state media signaled the nation would hit back against any trade measures, as it has done in past episodes. This time around, the need to project strength domestically is compounded by the looming twice-a-decade leadership reshuffle that may further entrench President Xi Jinping’s power.

Chinese officials have mulled stemming U.S. imports should retaliation be necessary. Under a draft plan, soybeans have been singled out as the top product that can be dialed back, according to people familiar with the matter. Autos, aircraft and rare-earth commodities have also been identified as potential categories for restriction, the people said.

Still, Trump’s offensive comes at a very sensitive time for Beijing: just weeks ahead of the 19th Party Congress, when Xi Jinping wants everything in his economy to be perfect.

“Ahead of the 19th Party Congress, the last thing that China will want is a trade war,” said Callum Henderson, a managing director for Asia-Pacific at Eurasia Group in Singapore. “It is also important that Beijing does not look weak in this context. As such, expect a cautious, proportional response.”

Of course, ultimately the big question – as Bloomberg puts it – is whether the Trump administration is willing to risk a trade war as it ups the ante. The International Monetary Fund warned last month that “inward-looking” policies could derail a global recovery that has so far been resilient to raising tensions over trade. The problem, for both the US and China, is that as Trump gets increasingly more focused on distracting from his numerous domestic scandals, he is likely to take ever more drastic action in the foreign arena, whether that means “hot war” with North Korea, or trade war with China.

“So far, it’s all been posturing, with little action,”’ said Scott Kennedy, a U.S.-China expert at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington. “Pressure is building to do something, so the U.S. doesn’t look like a complete paper tiger.”

Finally, as discussed last night, a quick analysis of US winners (few) and losers (many) from any US-China trade war, reveals that most adversely impacted would be the states of Mississippi, Georgia, Illinois and  California, all of which maintain deficits at more than 3% of GDP.

 

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Anonymous
Anonymous
August 3, 2017 9:42 am

This is how TPTB will introduce a little more direct and visible inflation on the masses. We have been dealing with inflation by stealth for the last 10 years, that is to say: the price stays the same but you get less product.

we have reached the point where it can no longer be hidden or masked.

starfcker
starfcker
  Anonymous
August 3, 2017 12:30 pm

Prett sure we’re headed the other way, slow, but steady deflation. I was looking at Ford products the other day, a lot of the low end stuff was marked 40% off, brand new. Industrial over capacity, combined with Trump’s desire to ensure wages become the mechanism that people use to get what they need, as opposed to welfare, don’t bode well for inflation.

WIP
WIP
  starfcker
August 3, 2017 1:36 pm

I certainly hope you are correct.

The cost structure in America is too damn high. Just like The Rent is Too Damn High guy.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  starfcker
August 3, 2017 1:38 pm

Car prices are the effect of a crappy economy,plus,how often does a person purchase a vehicle as opposed to food and other necessities?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  starfcker
August 3, 2017 2:25 pm

$50k for a PU Truck demonstrates deflation. Maybe for well-boiled frogs.

starfcker
starfcker
  Anonymous
August 3, 2017 3:34 pm

But $50,000 for a pickup truck is not real anymore. Before you even start bargaining, they’re 25% off. Looks like you could get a pretty decent truck for 25-30k. And as the model year closes down I bet that discount gets over 35%. Watch. Deals on RAM 1500, 2500, 3500 in Miami | New Truck Specials at Dadeland Dodge Chrysler RAM | RAM Dealership Near Pembroke Pines, Pompano Beach, Doral & Fort Lauderdale
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Anon
Anon
August 3, 2017 1:59 pm

You know, I for one say bring it on. I am soooo sick and tired of hearing about how “important” China is to us. WE, and western banking interests (Fed, ECB, SNB) are the ONLY reason China has been the “economic powerhouse” of the last 20 years. Just like when everyone thought Japan was unstoppable, and the “new economy” in the late 70’s and early 80’s, China is the next Japan. They are doing ALL of the same moves, with the exception of their military adventures.
If you peal back all of the hype and BS, and look at what China actually looks like from a real economic standpoint, you will see waste, fraud and over expansion that would make the TBTF banks, Amazon, Netflix and Starbucks corporate blush. They have ENTIRE cities that are baron of humans. They literally look like the Will Smith movie I am Legend without the monster humans. Spooky. Only without the zoning laws. You have buildings from the old guard sitting in the middle of three lane highways – no joke.
Malinvestment is a way of life there, and the minute the central banks of the world either quit printing money voluntarily, or are forced to because of mathematical / economic / political limitations, China is going to be a case study in what not to do. Everyone thinks each cycle is different….it is not. The only thing different is the particular “tulip bulb” and the duration of how long the pumpers can keep the con going. It all eventually falls….

GoneWest
GoneWest
  Anon
August 3, 2017 8:52 pm

China is “important” because they have the type of society/political system the elites want to create in America – elite controlled government linked directly to the corporations with overwhelming power over every aspect of people’s lives.

China is the TPTB wet dream.

Vektor
Vektor
  Anon
August 3, 2017 9:50 pm

Launching a trade war against a country that has been waging a trade war against us for decades? Long overdue.

TampaRed
TampaRed
August 3, 2017 3:50 pm

stucky just posted a funny over on the “can a nation attack a company” thread if you guys are interested–

Stucky
Stucky
August 3, 2017 4:50 pm

A country with 1.3 BILLION people … a nuclear power …. making yuge deals with Russia ….. and who surely supplies 80% or more of everything in Walmart, Target, Home Depot …. who can build entire cities from the ground up in less fucken time than it take to repair one mile of the PA Turnpike …. and don’t they hold many billions of US Bonds? ———- well, I don’t know shit about economics but it seems a trade war with them will end badly for us.

That’s all I got to say about that. I think the pic below is funny as shit.

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BL
BL
  Stucky
August 3, 2017 5:23 pm

Hoorah!!! Stucky is back.

Vodka
Vodka
  Stucky
August 3, 2017 5:32 pm

Stuck,
I generally don’t comment on financial writings on TBP, because I come here to learn about such things. But when there is such a huge trade deficit with China, what’s the risk with a ‘trade war’ against them? Does that mean I won’t have to throw out my countertop appliances every couple of years like I do now, because they’re Made in China pieces of shit?? I would be good with that.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Vodka
August 3, 2017 6:59 pm

You don’t have to buy crappy cheap product from China , lots of better quality options available but some people are so cheap .

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
August 3, 2017 7:10 pm

Savage.

Go home Vodka, you’re drunk.

Vodka
Vodka
  Anonymous
August 3, 2017 11:16 pm

Anonopussy,

I haven’t yet poured one, so watch out if I do. You are a true fucking idiot.

Wodkanisky
Wodkanisky
  Vodka
August 4, 2017 10:53 am

You are cognitively impotent and shallow, Vodka, which is why all you do around here is toss around the word idiot and chimp level rebuttals.

Hollow man
Hollow man
August 3, 2017 4:55 pm

Kinda like biting the hand that feeds you. They just might convince a few people to sell some debt.

james the deplorable wanderer
james the deplorable wanderer
August 3, 2017 7:35 pm

It could get interesting real quick. China holds less US debt now, but they are still a Ponzi scheme writ enormous in every sector. Once trade slows down, where will they get the cash flow to cover the ongoing debt?
Lots of capital flowed out of China to fund real estate bubbles in Vancouver, Seattle, San Francisco, wherever they could find a half-stable government and some kind of property rights. Once the income drops, how do you pay all those state employees in various industries that are only propped up by miracle money? And when theirs collapse, how far behind will ours be?
The Crunch could be a rate hike away ……

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
August 5, 2017 12:19 am

Poke at the N. Korean hornet’s nest, poke at the Russian hornet’s nest, poke at the Chinese hornet’s nest….do whatever it takes to get WW3 started. It most certainly isn’t going to start itself, and there are still lots of war profits to be made before the total and absolute collapse of western civilization and the totalitarian Amerikan Empire.

Dan
Dan
August 6, 2017 6:14 am

Hmmm, it seems to me that the Chi-coms have been in a trade war with us for 40 years, but we’re too stupid (or greedy?) to see it. The powers-that-be in China have no desire for a free market… they use coorpratism against us as an economic weapon, and it has yielded spectacular results for them. Brilliant strategy, actually…. they use our own greed and altruistic intentions (“if China is more free-market they’ll embrace democracy” BS) against us, thus weakening our businesses, making them reliant on China’s almost nonexistent enviro laws and their nearly-free labor supply (prison slave labor). It also placates their unruly rural areas w/crappy jobs (ie- building the empty cities), and gives them the ability to seize our manufacturing technology when desired, bc we make so much of our junk there, not back at home. Maybe it’s time to reverse this madness…. but be aware, it will not be without pain, as the Chi-coms will do many things to punish us.