Question of the Day, Roy Moore edition

I’ve about had enough of these women coming out 40 years later accusing the latest political star of sexual abuse. Does anyone else call BULLSHIT on this one? She certainly looks like someone who could use a paycheck. It’s always the same story, innocent little girl, lots of little facts that can’t be proven or disproven, and a handful of skanks collaborating the behavior.

Leigh Corfman says she was 14 years old when an older man approached her outside a courtroom in Etowah County, Ala. She was sitting on a wooden bench with her mother, they both recall, when the man introduced himself as Roy Moore.

It was early 1979 and Moore — now the Republican nominee in Alabama for a U.S. Senate seat — was a 32-year-old assistant district attorney. He struck up a conversation, Corfman and her mother say, and offered to watch the girl while her mother went inside for a child custody hearing.

“He said, ‘Oh, you don’t want her to go in there and hear all that. I’ll stay out here with her,’ ” says Corfman’s mother, Nancy Wells, 71. “I thought, how nice for him to want to take care of my little girl.”

This undated family photo shows Leigh Corfman with her mother, Nancy Wells, around 1979 when Corfman was about 14 years old. (Family Photo)
Alone with Corfman, Moore chatted with her and asked for her phone number, she says. Days later, she says, he picked her up around the corner from her house in Gadsden, drove her about 30 minutes to his home in the woods, told her how pretty she was and kissed her. On a second visit, she says, he took off her shirt and pants and removed his clothes. He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear.

“I wanted it over with — I wanted out,” she remembers thinking. “Please just get this over with. Whatever this is, just get it over.” Corfman says she asked Moore to take her home, and he did.

Two of Corfman’s childhood friends say she told them at the time that she was seeing an older man, and one says Corfman identified the man as Moore. Wells says her daughter told her about the encounter more than a decade later, as Moore was becoming more prominent as a local judge.

Aside from Corfman, three other women interviewed by The Washington Post in recent weeks say Moore pursued them when they were between the ages of 16 and 18 and he was in his early 30s, episodes they say they found flattering at the time, but troubling as they got older. None of the three women say that Moore forced them into any sort of relationship or sexual contact.

Wendy Miller says she was 14 and working as a Santa’s helper at the Gadsden Mall when Moore first approached her, and 16 when he asked her on dates, which her mother forbade. Debbie Wesson Gibson says she was 17 when Moore spoke to her high school civics class and asked her out on the first of several dates that did not progress beyond kissing. Gloria Thacker Deason says she was an 18-year-old cheerleader when Moore began taking her on dates that included bottles of Mateus Rosé wine. The legal drinking age in Alabama was 19.

Of the four women, the youngest at the time was Corfman, who is the only one who says she had sexual contact with Moore that went beyond kissing. She says they did not have intercourse.

In a written statement, Moore denied the allegations.

“These allegations are completely false and are a desperate political attack by the National Democrat Party and the Washington Post on this campaign,” Moore, now 70, said.

The campaign said in a subsequent statement that if the allegations were true they would have surfaced during his previous campaigns, adding “this garbage is the very definition of fake news.”

After The Post published this story Thursday afternoon, Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) and a handful of other GOP senators said Moore must step aside if Corfman’s account is true.

According to campaign reports, none of the women has donated to or worked for Moore’s Democratic opponent, Doug Jones, or his rivals in the Republican primary, including Sen. Luther Strange, whom he defeated this fall in a runoff election.

Corfman, 53, who works as a customer service representative at a payday loan business, says she has voted for Republicans in the past three presidential elections, including for Donald Trump in 2016. She says she thought of confronting Moore personally for years, and almost came forward publicly during his first campaign for state Supreme Court in 2000, but decided against it. Her two children were still in school then and she worried about how it would affect them. She also was concerned that her background — three divorces and a messy financial history — might undermine her credibility.

“There is no one here that doesn’t know that I’m not an angel,” Corfman says, referring to her home town of Gadsden.

Corfman described her story consistently in six interviews with The Post. The Post confirmed that her mother attended a hearing at the courthouse in February 1979 through divorce records. Moore’s office was down the hall from the courtroom.

Neither Corfman nor any of the other women sought out The Post. While reporting a story in Alabama about supporters of Moore’s Senate campaign, a Post reporter heard that Moore allegedly had sought relationships with teenage girls. Over the ensuing three weeks, two Post reporters contacted and interviewed the four women. All were initially reluctant to speak publicly but chose to do so after multiple interviews, saying they thought it was important for people to know about their interactions with Moore. The women say they don’t know one another.

“I have prayed over this,” Corfman says, explaining why she decided to tell her story now. “All I know is that I can’t sit back and let this continue, let him continue without the mask being removed.”

This account is based on interviews with more than 30 people who said they knew Moore between 1977 and 1982, when he served as an assistant district attorney for Etowah County in northern Alabama, where he grew up.

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Moore was 30 and single when he joined the district attorney’s office, his first government job after attending the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, serving in Vietnam, graduating from law school and working briefly as a lawyer in private practice in Gadsden, the county seat.

By his account, chronicled in his book “So Help Me God,” Moore spent his time as a prosecutor convicting “murderers, rapists, thieves and drug pushers.” He writes that it was “around this time that I fashioned a plaque of The Ten Commandments on two redwood tablets.”

“I believed that many of the young criminals whom I had to prosecute would not have committed criminal acts if they had been taught these rules as children,” Moore writes.

Outside work, Moore writes that he spent his free time building rooms onto a mobile home in Gallant, a rural area about 25 miles west of Gadsden.

According to colleagues and others who knew him at the time, Moore was rarely seen socializing outside work. He spent one season coaching the Gallant Girls, a softball team that his teenage sister had joined, said several women who played on the team. He spent time working out at the Gadsden YMCA, according to people who encountered him there. And he often walked, usually alone, around the newly opened Gadsden Mall — 6 feet tall and well-dressed in slacks and a button-down shirt, say several women who worked there at the time.

Corfman describes herself as a little lost — “a typical 14-year-old kid of a divorced family” — when she says she first met Moore that day in 1979 outside the courtroom. She says she felt flattered that a grown man was paying attention to her.

“He was charming and smiley,” she says.

After her mother went into the courtroom, Corfman says, Moore asked her where she went to school, what she liked to do and whether he could call her sometime. She remembers giving him her number and says he called not long after. She says she talked to Moore on her phone in her bedroom, and they made plans for him to pick her up at Alcott Road and Riley Street, around the corner from her house.

“I was kind of giddy, excited, you know? An older guy, you know?” Corfman says, adding that her only sexual experience at that point had been kissing boys her age.

She says that it was dark and cold when he picked her up, and that she thought they were going out to eat. Instead, she says, he drove her to his house, which seemed “far, far away.”

“I remember the further I got from my house, the more nervous I got,” Corfman says.

She remembers an unpaved driveway. She remembers going inside and him giving her alcohol on this visit or the next, and that at some point she told him she was 14. She says they sat and talked. She remembers that Moore told her she was pretty, put his arm around her and kissed her, and that she began to feel nervous and asked him to take her home, which she says he did.

Soon after, she says, he called again, and picked her up again at the same spot.

“This was a new experience, and it was exciting and fun and scary,” Corfman says, explaining why she went back. “It was just like this roller-coaster ride you’ve not been on.”

She says that Moore drove her back to the same house after dark, and that before long she was lying on a blanket on the floor. She remembers Moore disappearing into another room and coming out with nothing on but “tight white” underwear.

She remembers that Moore kissed her, that he took off her pants and shirt, and that he touched her through her bra and underpants. She says that he guided her hand to his underwear and that she yanked her hand back.

“I wasn’t ready for that — I had never put my hand on a man’s penis, much less an erect one,” Corfman says.

She remembers thinking, “I don’t want to do this” and “I need to get out of here.” She says that she got dressed and asked Moore to take her home, and that he did.

The legal age of consent in Alabama, then and now, is 16. Under Alabama law in 1979, and today, a person who is at least 19 years old who has sexual contact with someone between 12 and 16 years old has committed sexual abuse in the second degree. Sexual contact is defined as touching of sexual or intimate parts. The crime is a misdemeanor punishable by up to one year in jail.

The law then and now also includes a section on enticing a child younger than 16 to enter a home with the purpose of proposing sexual intercourse or fondling of sexual and genital parts. That is a felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison.

In Alabama, the statute of limitations for bringing felony charges involving sexual abuse of a minor in 1979 would have run out three years later, and the time frame for filing a civil complaint would have ended when the alleged victim turned 21, according to Child USA, a nonprofit research and advocacy group at the University of Pennsylvania.

Corfman never filed a police report or a civil suit.

She says that after their last encounter, Moore called again, but that she found an excuse to avoid seeing him. She says that at some point during or soon after her meetings with Moore, she told two friends in vague terms that she was seeing an older man.

Betsy Davis, who remains friendly with Corfman and now lives in Los Angeles, says she clearly remembers Corfman talking about seeing an older man named Roy Moore when they were teenagers. She says Corfman described an encounter in which the older man wore nothing but tight white underwear. She says she was firm with Corfman that seeing someone as old as Moore was out of bounds.

“I remember talking to her and telling her it’s not a good idea,” Davis says. “Because we were so young.”

A second friend, who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of losing her job, has a similar memory of a teenage Corfman telling her about seeing an older man.

After talking to her friends, Corfman says, she began to feel that she had done something wrong and kept it a secret for years.

“I felt responsible,” she says. “I felt like I had done something bad. And it kind of set the course for me doing other things that were bad.”

She says that her teenage life became increasingly reckless with drinking, drugs, boyfriends, and a suicide attempt when she was 16.

As the years went on, Corfman says, she did not share her story about Moore partly because of the trouble in her life. She has had three divorces and financial problems. While living in Arizona, she and her second husband started a screen-printing business that fell into debt. They filed for bankruptcy protection three times, once in 1991 with $139,689 in unpaid claims brought by the Internal Revenue Service and other creditors, according to court records.

In 2005, Corfman paid a fine for driving a boat without lights. In 2010, she was working at a convenience store when she was charged with a misdemeanor for selling beer to a minor. The charge was dismissed, court records show.

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The three other women who spoke to The Post say that Moore asked them on dates when they were between 16 and 18 and he was in his early 30s.

Gloria Thacker Deason says she was 18 and Moore was 32 when they met in 1979 at the Gadsden Mall, where she worked at the jewelry counter of a department store called Pizitz. She says she was attending Gadsden State Community College and still living at home.

“My mom was really, really strict and my curfew was 10:30 but she would let me stay out later with Roy,” says Deason, who is now 57 and lives in North Carolina. “She just felt like I would be safe with him. . . . She thought he was good husband material.”

Deason says that they dated off and on for several months and that he took her to his house at least two times. She says their physical relationship did not go further than kissing and hugging.

“He liked Eddie Rabbitt and I liked Freddie Mercury,” Deason says, referring to the country singer and the British rocker.

She says that Moore would pick her up for dates at the mall or at college basketball games, where she was a cheerleader. She remembers changing out of her uniform before they went out for dinners at a pizzeria called Mater’s, where she says Moore would order bottles of Mateus Rosé, or at a Chinese restaurant, where she says he would order her tropical cocktails at a time when she believes she was younger than 19, the legal drinking age.

“If Mother had known that, she would have had a hissy fit,” says Deason, who says she turned 19 in May 1979, after she and Moore started dating.

Around the same time that Deason says she met Moore at the jewelry counter, Wendy Miller says that Moore approached her at the mall, where she would spend time with her mom, who worked at a photo booth there. Miller says this was in 1979, when she was 16.

She says that Moore’s face was familiar because she had first met him two years before, when she was dressed as an elf and working as a Santa’s helper at the mall. She says that Moore told her she looked pretty, and that two years later, he began asking her out on dates in the presence of her mother at the photo booth. She says she had a boyfriend at the time, and declined.

Her mother, Martha Brackett, says she refused to grant Moore permission to date her 16-year-old daughter.

“I’d say, ‘You’re too old for her . . . let’s not rob the cradle,’ ” Brackett recalls telling Moore.

Miller, who is now 54 and still lives in Alabama, says she was “flattered by the attention.”

“Now that I’ve gotten older,” she says, “the idea that a grown man would want to take out a teenager, that’s disgusting to me.”

Debbie Wesson Gibson says that she was 17 in the spring of 1981 when Moore spoke to her Etowah High School civics class about serving as the assistant district attorney. She says that when he asked her out, she asked her mother what she would say if she wanted to date a 34-year-old man. Gibson says her mother asked her who the man was, and when Gibson said “Roy Moore,” her mother said, “I’d say you were the luckiest girl in the world.”

Among locals in Gadsden, a town of about 47,000 back then, Moore “had this godlike, almost deity status — he was a hometown boy made good,” Gibson says, “West Point and so forth.”

Gibson says that they dated for two to three months, and that he took her to his house, read her poetry and played his guitar. She says he kissed her once in his bedroom and once by the pool at a local country club.

“Looking back, I’m glad nothing bad happened,” says Gibson, who now lives in Florida. “As a mother of daughters, I realize that our age difference at that time made our dating inappropriate.”

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By 1982, Moore was by his own account in his book causing a stir in the district attorney’s office for his willingness to criticize the workings of the local legal system. He convened a grand jury to look into what he alleged were funding problems in the sheriff’s office. In response, Moore writes, the state bar association investigated him for going against the advice of the district attorney, an inquiry that was dismissed.

Soon after, Moore quit and began his first political campaign for the county’s circuit court judge position. He lost overwhelmingly, and left Alabama shortly thereafter, heading to Texas, where he says in his book that he trained as a kickboxer, and to Australia, where he says he lived on a ranch for a year wrangling cattle.

He returned to Gadsden in 1984 and went into private law practice. In 1985, at age 38, he married Kayla Kisor, who was 24. The two are still married.

A few years later, Moore began his rise in Alabama politics and into the national spotlight.

In 1992, he became a circuit court judge and hung his wooden Ten Commandments plaque in his courtroom.

In 2000, he was elected chief justice of Alabama’s Supreme Court, and he soon installed a 5,280-pound granite Ten Commandments monument in the judicial building.

In 2003, he was dismissed from the bench for ignoring a federal court order to remove the monument, and became known nationally as “The Ten Commandments Judge.”

Moore was again elected chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court in 2012, and was again dismissed for ignoring a judicial order, this time for instructing probate judges not to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples.

All of this has made Moore a hero to many Alabama voters, who consider him a stalwart Christian willing to stand up for their values. In a September Republican primary for the seat vacated by Attorney General Jeff Sessions, Moore defeated the appointed sitting senator, Luther Strange, who was backed by President Trump and other party leaders in Washington. Moore faces the Democratic nominee, Doug Jones, in a special election scheduled for Dec. 12.

On a visit home in the mid-1990s to see her mother and stepfather in Alabama, Corfman says, she saw Moore’s photo in the Gadsden Times.

“ ‘Mother, do you remember this guy?’ ” Wells says Corfman said at the time.

That’s when Corfman told her, Wells recalls. Her daughter said that not long after the court hearing in 1979, Moore took her to his house. Wells says that her daughter conveyed to her that Moore had behaved inappropriately.

“I was horrified,” Wells says.

Years later, Corfman says, she saw a segment about Moore on ABC News’s “Good Morning America.” She says she threw up.

There were times, Corfman says, she thought about confronting Moore. At one point during the late 1990s, she says, she became so angry that she drove to the parking lot outside Moore’s office at the county courthouse in Gadsden. She sat there for a while, she says, rehearsing what she might say to him.

“ ‘Remember me?’ ” she imagined herself saying.

Author: Back in PA Mike

Crotchety middle aged man with a hot younger wife dead set on saving this Country.

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unit472/
unit472/
November 9, 2017 7:55 pm

I seriously doubt a district attorney is going to call a 14 year old girl in 1979. This was a time when most families only had a single phone line even if they let a teen girl have a ‘princess phone’ in her bedroom. Anyone who was a teen in those days remembers the problem of having a ‘private phone call’ at home. Mom might answer and ask who is calling and then stay on the ‘kitchen’ line until the daughter picked up in the bedroom. If mom is at all suspicious and what mom wouldn’t be hearing a mature man’s voice she’s going to grill her daughter as to the identity of the caller

This smacks of the old playbook of dumping an unverifiable allegation shortly before the election and, let’s face it if the GOP and Democrats can spend millions on this campaign to defeat Moore, coming up with a few thousand to pay some bimbos to make allegations is easy and if there are no more recent examples of Moore chasing younger women it sounds fake. Better to try the Barbara Boxer ploy of charging her opponent of going to a strip club on election eve.

james the deplorable wanderer
james the deplorable wanderer
November 9, 2017 8:14 pm

This has Mitch McConnell’s fingerprints all over it.
Moore committed the unpardonable sin – he showed Mitch has NO INFLUENCE down in Alabama, and all the money the RINOs could dump on Luther Strange went absolutely nowhere. Roy showed the “emperors” they had no clothes on – and rubbed it in their faces in the special election. Can’t have some backwoods nobody showing up Mitch McConnell! Boys, we’ve got an election to steal – and there’s no way we can let the people have THEIR choice!
I’d bet a nickel that when the tales get told, these gals did SOMETHING with Moore – thirty years back, with no evidence, no way to know what happened (whether it was a platonic relationship, a date or a heavy petting session) and when Mitch came along waving hundred-dollar bills in their trailer park, these gals saw a way to make some quick bucks and get some hurt feelings soothed – at a straight white man’s expense!
I hate politics in general and I hate machine politics in particular – if there’s anything here, it’s unprovable now, and can’t be believed without evidence that doesn’t exist. Won’t stop Jeff Bezos from trying though! Lying bastards.

kokoda - AZEK (Deck Boards) doesn't stand behind its product
kokoda - AZEK (Deck Boards) doesn't stand behind its product
November 9, 2017 8:44 pm

Just a few weeks away from election; very convenient.

I call BullShit based on the timing.

Anonymous
Anonymous
November 9, 2017 9:00 pm

I say , some or many 50 year old men, come out of the woodwork and accuse Mitch McConnell and John McCain of sexual abuse when they were 9 year old boys.

KeyserSusie
KeyserSusie
November 9, 2017 9:04 pm

There are many cretins out there. I have little opinion about this as I have no knowledge about it except what I have read here. They do exist. I believe I met the daughter of Delores Clairborne at a sleepy bar on Pensacola Beach following Hurricane Ivan. She told me she was from Maine, close to where I once lived. She said Stephen King had written about her family but that is all she would admit to. I could see the pain she carried. I carried some myself with my home destroyed by a 12 foot surge.

I have heard many similar stories like this, many from strippers I have known intimately, of abused girls, some who take away the power of their abusers by acting like sex is not any big deal, hence why they use it to have power over men.

If you spend three months listening to sex addicts in treatment you will hear stories like this one and worse with sad regularity.

Captain America
Captain America
November 9, 2017 9:15 pm

Repeal the 19th Amendment, eliminate no-fault divorce, end transfer payments from men to women. If they refuse, boycott women entirely. They will soon find themselves in cold, dank caves, dirty, and devoid of iPhones. Instagram and Facebook will fold, and we, being creators, men, will build beautiful, loyal and compliant sexbots, and refine the extant artificial womb technology. The risk reward ratio for women has grown way too high. I hate these deceitful, illogical, puerile creatures.

Boat Guy
Boat Guy
November 9, 2017 9:16 pm

I wonder how my lawsuit is going against a couple of hot teachers I experienced as an adolescent boy when they would wear mini skirts and sit infront of the class balanced on a stool legs crossed and me with a boner under my desk . Fuck it I had to take Geometry in summer school because of that one !
I probably don’t have a case , LOL

TampaRed
TampaRed
November 9, 2017 9:21 pm

This is slightly believable but it is not pedophilia or rape.
However, if true it showed exceedingly bad judgment but if I were in Alabama I’d still vote for him.

rhs jr
rhs jr
November 9, 2017 9:22 pm

I’ve done worse and probably so has every Democrat politician. Show me something since he got married and within the last couple decades. I wish I could vote for Roy Moore.

Rdawg
Rdawg
  rhs jr
November 9, 2017 10:00 pm

You’ve done worse than grope an underage girl when you were in your thirties?

That’s fucked up.

rhs jr
rhs jr
  Rdawg
November 10, 2017 3:11 pm

Not that but really bad in my opinion (it was before becoming a dedicated Christian) but I have no intention of making a public confession either; Roy obviously had a vice (young girls) when he was 30ish and single; I am glad you made it through your youth free to throw stones.

Edwitness
Edwitness
November 9, 2017 9:53 pm

Mud slinging. Nothing more. And probably from the repubs. They are total hypocrites. And most of them lower life forms than even their dem counterparts.
From what I know of him Moore would be a breath of fresh air in a very dank and dark place.
Blessings:-}

Rdawg
Rdawg
  Edwitness
November 9, 2017 10:04 pm

Two of my favorite Bible-thumpers defending a thirty-something year-old man who possibly put his paws on under-aged girls. Maybe BB will chime in and make it a trifecta.

Your tribalism blinds you.

Maranatha, you sick fucks.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Rdawg
November 10, 2017 9:23 am

So you seem to assume he is guilty, and also that what he is accused of is somehow against biblical teachings about the age of marriageable women?

FWIW, when the Democrats are scared of a Conervative candidate winning it is normal for them to drag decades old sexual misconduct claims against him that have never been stated before during his career for some odd reason.

It is also normal for them to attack without restraint those making claims against anyone on their side, as they did without hesitation for Bill Clinton.

One difference though, claims against the Conservative just sort of disappear along with the women alleging the misconduct when they don’t work, but the women accusing Clinton of rape are still making those same exact accusations whenever and wherever anyone will listen (which isn’t often in the Leftist MSM).

prusmc
prusmc
  Edwitness
November 10, 2017 8:00 am

Does this security group of former Mossad agents hire out to any one who seeks their services? In Harvey’s case they played defense can they also take the offense? Inquiring minds want to know.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
November 9, 2017 10:12 pm

I had men come on to me when I was 16 at my part-time jobs. The assistant manager of the Arthur Treachers Fish and Chips was 32. It was my first job. He was married. We were closing up, he pinned me to the wall. I told him I was not interested in him. The manager fired me, he said I was a distraction and he needed his ASSistant manager.

The next job I had, the vice-president of this small company that kept track of people that wrote bad checks, got me alone in the small kitchen and did the same damn thing! I wiggled my way away from him and went back out to the main office. All the rest of the girls, all my age, around 16-17 saw the look on my face and virtually all of them were nodding, yeah, he did the same thing to all the girls there. I didn’t wait for him to fire me or look for an excuse to. I just walked out. Oh and he was married, too. I bet he was at least 40 if not older.

The point of my story is I don’t remember their names or even what they looked like. I just remember the incidents.

I told my mom about both incidents and all she has to say about them is something like “Well you need to just get used to it. It’s just the way the world is.”

Oh, thanks, mom. That was really helpful.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mary Christine
November 10, 2017 2:43 am

I don’t think you’re telling the whole story.

javelin
javelin
  Mary Christine
November 10, 2017 8:06 am

This stuff happens frequently—my wife has told me about her friends father making moves on her when she was a teenager.
My older daughter took a job at a local music lesson studio when she was 15 or so. The late 20’s owner was a bit pushy and touchy with his overtures and my daughter told my wife. Eventually my wife confided to me with the, “I don’t want you to do anything stupid but….”
I went to the studio the next day and one-punched the smarmy punk, stood over him and told him he was lucky that was the end of his punishment and that I should be going to the cops instead. He actually cried-pathetic.
I’m actually less restrained now. If someone touched my granddaughter it would probably be answered by an anonymous .308 round from a few hundred yards away.

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
November 9, 2017 10:57 pm

I’m one of the youngsters of TBP group and I wasn’t born until the 80’s. I don’t remember most of the people I knew from high school or college. I just have vague memories and can recall a few names and a few characteristics about those people. Even my memories of family members, close friends, and ex-boyfriends are muddled with vagueness.

Memories, especially from nearly 40 years ago are unreliable. These women probably each had an experience of older men coming onto them. But, there’s no way to really know if these women remember the name Roy Moore or if it was suggested to them. Creating new memories by filling in details into the gaps of old memories is the same thing psychics and hypnotist do to exploit memories.

Rdawg
Rdawg
  Stephanie Shepard
November 9, 2017 11:10 pm

“Memories, especially from nearly 40 years ago are unreliable.”

Well, I would say it depends on the event. I vividly remember camping in south-central Washington state when Mt. St. Helens erupted in 1980. I also remember with great detail watching the total eclipse with my parents the year before.

I think that the more significant the event, the more “sticky” the memory of it tends to be. I too can barely recall events and people from high school, except close friends, as that wasn’t really an especially important time in my life.

Getting felt up by the town big-wheel might qualify as significant.

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
  Rdawg
November 9, 2017 11:17 pm

Those are called ‘flashbulb memories” that are extremely vivid snapshots of events. Such as where were you during Pearl Harbor, JFK’s Assassination, 9/11 etc. Those memories aren’t reliable either. Mostly because of the hyper-focus of those memories leave out a lot of details to where you just vividly remember the experience and how you felt.

Just as Mary Christine pointed out, she recalls the experience and how she felt. But not their names or what they looked like. That’s why I said those women probably did have those experiences but there’s no way to know if they recalled Roy Moore’s name on their own or if the reporter from WaPo suggested his name to them.

Rdawg
Rdawg
  Stephanie Shepard
November 9, 2017 11:51 pm

Uh, not convincing to me. I can picture EXACTLY where I was when I heard about 9/11. It was no “flashbulb”, where I just remember “how I felt”.

Mary Christine said she didn’t remember their faces or names, but she sure as hell remembered who they were: assistant manager, vice-president. She sure as hell remembered where it occurred.

The victim in the story remembered Roy Moore’s vocation and when/where she met him. Evidence corroborates this.

Your thesis is not very convincing to me.

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
  Rdawg
November 10, 2017 12:11 am

I’m not trying to convince you. You piggy-backed my comment. Think for yourself and make up your own mind.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stephanie Shepard
November 10, 2017 2:45 am

Flashbulb memories light the self in the most positive light.

Lala Blood
Lala Blood
November 9, 2017 11:14 pm

He’s a “Christian” Republican. Of course it’s true.

Rdawg
Rdawg
  Lala Blood
November 9, 2017 11:53 pm

That hasn’t got fuck-all to do with it. Your stupid tribalism is just as bad as the dickheads who think that a Christian could not have done it.

Anonymous 2
Anonymous 2
November 10, 2017 2:48 am

Sexual misconduct? What’s the standard the swamp demands for allegations like these to be believed? Past history gives an answer: such as actual semen on a blue dress, i.e., tangible, physical evidence admissible in a court of law, otherwise, it’s just another bimbo eruption according to the left and the Washington Post. Or, does the Washington Post believe there are different standards for different folks? The substantive question is: who benefits from this “narrative”? Obviously, the establishment Republicans get payback for having uselessly spent and wasted millions of donor dollars to defeat Judge Moore in the Primary, the establishment Democrats gain an unearned seat, and finally, the Washington Post gets to claim victory for another takedown of their political opposition. Think, people, you were given a brain, use it.

Boat Guy
Boat Guy
November 10, 2017 7:38 am

I cannot believe all the incidents of grown men coming on to underage girls . Obviously I must have been the last Boy Scout ! My involvement with girls or women has always been in my same age bracket . Being the father of a now adult daughter she always knew I would do anything to keep her safe . She also knows to this day I have a gun a shovel and 10,000 acres of park forest land close by , and no I am not afraid to got to prison or the electric chair should some clod make a fatal mistake by harming her !

Card802
Card802
November 10, 2017 8:39 am

I’m getting the feeling these shotgun accusations from years ago are going to eventually lead to Trump.

Witch trials, McCarthyism, etc and more fourth turning fun.

BSHJ
BSHJ
November 10, 2017 9:58 am

The sad thing is that as usual, the truth does not matter…..now all that matters is the accusation. From now on, Moore is ‘tainted’….damn I hate politics and RINOs the most, at least I expect this crap from the Dems.

Truther
Truther
November 12, 2017 8:56 pm

Everyone knows back in 1979 in Alabama there was only one rotary phone int the middle of the house. It was still very much a new technology and no home was wired for multiple lines. Not until the mid 1980s did larger wealthy home start getting built with a phone line in the kitchen and master bedroom. Fewer with more than this. No privacy and if he called her that often her mom would have known. Calling bullshit on this one. She got paid off by Bezos the fucking ass clown…..thunked up by Mitch McConnel. These rat bastards are all working together. Trump has shown us the deep state and the rhinos are wolves in sheepskin parading around as republicans…..tea party is back birches and time to vote em all out in ’18!!!!!!