Guest Post by John W. Whitehead
We’ve all been there before.
You’re driving along and you see a pair of flashing blue lights in your rearview mirror. Whether or not you’ve done anything wrong, you get a sinking feeling in your stomach.
You’ve read enough news stories, seen enough headlines, and lived in the American police state long enough to be anxious about any encounter with a cop that takes place on the side of the road.
For better or worse, from the moment you’re pulled over, you’re at the mercy of law enforcement officers who have almost absolute discretion to decide who is a threat, what constitutes resistance, and how harshly they can deal with the citizens they were appointed to “serve and protect.”
This is what I call “blank check policing,” in which the police get to call all of the shots.
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So if you’re nervous about traffic stops, you have every reason to be.
Trying to predict the outcome of any encounter with the police is a bit like playing Russian roulette: most of the time you will emerge relatively unscathed, although decidedly poorer and less secure about your rights, but there’s always the chance that an encounter will turn deadly.
For instance, it was just a year ago, in the early morning hours of Dec. 1, 2016, when Gregory Tucker, a young African-American man, was pulled over by Louisiana police for a broken taillight.
According to the lawsuit that was filed in federal court by The Rutherford Institute, Tucker was thrown to the ground by police, beaten, arrested and hospitalized for severe injuries to his face and arm, allegedly in retaliation for “resisting arrest” by driving to a safe, well-lit area before submitting to a traffic stop for a broken tail light.
Mind you, this young man complied with police. He just didn’t do it fast enough to suit their purposes.
If this young man is “guilty” of anything, he’s guilty of ticking off the cops by being cautious, concerned for his safety, and all too aware of the dangers faced by young black men during encounters with the police.
Frankly, you don’t even have to be young or black or a man to fear for your life during an encounter with the police.
Just consider the growing numbers of unarmed people are who being shot and killed just for standing a certain way, or moving a certain way, or holding something—anything—that police could misinterpret to be a gun, or igniting some trigger-centric fear in a police officer’s mind that has nothing to do with an actual threat to their safety.
At a time when police can do no wrong—at least in the eyes of the courts, police unions and politicians dependent on their votes—and a “fear” for officer safety is used to justify all manner of police misconduct, “we the people” are at a severe disadvantage.
Add a traffic stop to the mix, and that disadvantage increases dramatically.
According to the Justice Department, the most common reason for a citizen to come into contact with the police is being a driver in a traffic stop.
On average, one in 10 Americans gets pulled over by police.
Indeed, police officers have been given free range to pull anyone over for a variety of reasons.
This free-handed approach to traffic stops has resulted in drivers being stopped for windows that are too heavily tinted, for driving too fast, driving too slow, failing to maintain speed, following too closely, improper lane changes, distracted driving, screeching a car’s tires, and leaving a parked car door open for too long.
Motorists can also be stopped by police for driving near a bar or on a road that has large amounts of drunk driving, driving a certain make of car (Mercedes, Grand Prix and Hummers are among the most ticketed vehicles), having anything dangling from the rearview mirror (air fresheners, handicap parking permits, troll transponders or rosaries), displaying pro-police bumper stickers, having acne, appearing nervous or driving with a stiff posture.
In other words, drivers beware.
Traffic stops aren’t just dangerous. They can be downright deadly.
From the moment those lights start flashing and that siren goes off, we’re all in the same boat.
Survival is the key.
Technically, you have the right to remain silent (beyond the basic requirement to identify yourself and show your registration). You have the right to refuse to have your vehicle searched. You have the right to film your interaction with police. You have the right to ask to leave. You also have the right to resist an unlawful order such as a police officer directing you to extinguish your cigarette, put away your phone or stop recording them.
However, there is a price for asserting one’s rights. That price grows more costly with every passing day.
If you ask cops and their enablers what Americans should do to stay alive during encounters with police, they will tell you to comply, cooperate, obey, not resist, not argue, not make threatening gestures or statements, avoid sudden movements, and submit to a search of their person and belongings.
The problem, of course, is what to do when compliance is not enough.
As I make clear in my book Battlefield America: The War on the American People, every day we hear about situations in which unarmed Americans complied and still died during an encounter with police simply because they appeared to be standing in a “shooting stance” or held a cell phone or a garden hose or carried around a baseball bat or answered the front door or held a spoon in a threatening manner or ran in an aggressive manner holding a tree branch or wandered around naked or hunched over in a defensive posture or made the mistake of wearing the same clothes as a carjacking suspect (dark pants and a basketball jersey) or dared to leave an area at the same time that a police officer showed up or had a car break down by the side of the road or were deaf or homeless or old.
Frankly, the only truly compliant, submissive and obedient citizen in a police state is a dead one.
If you’re starting to feel somewhat overwhelmed, intimidated and fearful for your life and the lives of your loved ones, you should be.
You should be very afraid.
I am.
Comply. Its easy. Deal with it in court or by lawsuit later. I have alot of police friends. No different than you or I, just trying to do a job. Just let me do my job and i know you arent a problem is what i have been told. Seems perfectly reasonable.
Copfuks … they just love compliant sheep like you.
Do you give your copfuk friends Thank-You-Blowjobs?
+1000
So how do you react when a police officer stops you?
Really, tell thee truth about it.
Just because prudent people comply with abusive cops to stay alive doesn’t mean we should have to.
A) I tell him “I don’t give fuck.”
B) I comply.
Depending on my mood.
Complying makes the most sense … if you value you life.
centfromhell is getting TBP love for the bullshit comment that copfuks are just like us. Ummm, no! And that horseshit comment “just doing their jobs” ,…. the battlecry for every jackboot thug, ever.
So you’re saying you’re a “compliant sheep”?
Oh, you think you’re so damn clever. Don’t you?
Listen, Snowflake, learn how to read … for comprehension. centfromhell saying “comply” has nothing to do with that dipshit getting hammered.
Knowing what copfuks are capable of … that many are psychopaths … and all of them carry fucking guns …. only a fucking fool would not “comply” …. and my momma didn’t raise no fool.
So, yeah, that’s right Mr. Detective, when I get stopped, I do COOPERATE. I say little beyond “yessir”, “nosir”, and “I’m sorry about that, sir”. Been stopped maybe 5 times in the past 15 years … no tickets, though.
I would encourage everyone here to do likewise.
Says the assholio without a job living in a boarding house.
I’m actually in favor of abolishing private police forces, and recognizing only one law enforcement authority in a jurisdiction, an elected Chief Law Enforcement Officer (CLEO), typically the sheriff, whose responsibility it is to serve warrants and court papers. That includes getting rid of state and federal bureaus of investigate, and city police forces.
Our military should be patrolling and defending the borders.While we’re at it, decriminalize drugs and release all non-violent offenders from prison, as well as allow anyone to carry a firearm anywhere, except by decree by the CLEO, and uphold the rest of the bill of rights, as well.
Anything else is, well, unconstitutional.
If it makes you feel better than me … superior … then by all means, keep up with your “boarding house” theme.
It says much more about you, than me. You are such a petty, bitter little man.
“Just doing their jobs” = “Just following orders”.
centfromheaven at a traffic stop
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One of centfromheaven’s heros:
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And those Antifa type, your hero’s, what would you have him do about them? Billy clubs maybe? Or let them just rule the city?
If they’re blocking the road, cuff them and throw them in the van.
I imagine you would have the same thing to say about that as you seem to want to say about using pepper spray, especially if some of them were injured by continuing to resist and physical force was needed to accomplish that cuffing and throwing.
Just to be clear- those are college students sitting on a sidewalk. What purpose is served by assaulting them with pepperspray? And this was long before Antifreedom.
What purpose is served by assaulting non-violent protestors? California lets bums shit, piss, and fuck in the street, but kids sitting on a sidewalk get gassed? That seems a bit overkill.
Very true. Cooperation when confronted with a person who is armed and in a dominant position be he a cop or an thug is a good idea. Doesn’t mean you have to approve of the situation but resistance is only going to escalate things.
That said, cops can find a reason to pull anyone over and they are street wise so the ‘traffic stop’ is often a pretext for a full scale search and background check. I didn’t say this but I used to work for a municipal utility and our radios, computers and GPS systems were the same as the police departments. I grew irked by some things the office was doing to us field people so I bought some GPS jammers. They will also jam police radio and mobile computer systems. Buy a good one with a range of a couple hundred feet and you can disable the cops ability to check your license status or any warrants for your arrest.
better put some place that shit can’t find it after 40 yrs driving have little love for them just looking for money from you
Sounds like you’ve never been ordered to lie prostrate on the asphalt because you were driving with a broken taillight. You might feel differently if you had been.
Have you?
And if so, exactly what did you do during the stop to merit it?
I’m betting it wasn’t politely responding to requests and questions with “Yes sir” and “no sir”.
Yes, capitulation is always the best policy. (lol)
Which is why you capitulate.
A smart thing to do, FWIW, when it involves capitulating to the police at a traffic stop.
Exactly what do you tuff guys expect to accomplish by giving a cop shit? There is nothing you can say to them that will change their attitude, or their decision about what they are going to do to you, except for “good afternoon sir” or yes sir. You cant win, so dont try. Read some sun tzu. There are battles to be fought, and some you lose before you begin. One ticket since 1987. One. And I drive like a fuckin asshole. I am friendly to cops. I have a very funny picture on my license. I get warnings. Be friendly. Make them laugh. Do the online driving school thing. Whine in court. Not at the cop. Shit, you were prolly guilty anyway, of some admittedly stupid infraction, but you know the rules, and you know you broke them.
Yeah, you broke the rules, everybody breaks the rules, and there’s no way to live without breaking any rules.
The thousands of pages of rules written each year by elected and unelected assholes ensures you break the rules.
And the bar to illegality is set so low that “normal and prudent behavior” is illegal.
Welcome to the Police State.
Blowback. When it finally comes, it’s going to be a bitch.
Promises, promises. If it hasn’t happened by now, it ain’t gonna.
Have you been in public lately? 95% of people staring intently into their iGadgets as if the secrets of the Universe can be found therein.
I work with law enforcement . There are some really deranged ones . More than would be expected in a cross section of the general population. The job attracts many who have the bully syndrome. Others are just plain terrified when they pull you over. Dangerous, not rational. Many are just O.K. people, but why would anyone want the job?
Robert (QSLV)
Yes why would one want it, wnen one out of two not bad you are screwed
Freedom or security. Pick one. Those that kowtow to cops already have.
Bow before no one.
But I’m betting you pay your taxes and stop when those lights come on behind you.
That’s bowing before someone, even though you probably rationalize it away so you don’t have to face the fact that you don’t walk the way you talk.
Anon……….that is BS
No, it isn’t.
I agree. If you value what you have and the life you got, you do what they tell you. If you don’t have a job, home, money, family, life to speak of- go nuts. I just want to get home tonight, so I’ll pull over, keep my hands where they can see them, and respond with Yes, Sir/No, Sir. Having been to court and federale court, I’ve seen how prosecutors can cut you a deal if you’re not a prick and how judges are keen to see how you interacted with the cop.
I also pay my taxes.
Flame on, internet tough guys, but you know you’re going to play ball when they stop you, too. Or are you going to be some kind of martyr nobody ever heard of?
Exactly.
You are correct. You may have to “bite your tongue”, but the best thing to do is to get the traffic stop over as quickly as possible. Having a hidden video recording system is an excellent idea, as there are some cops, who regardless of the total compliance you give them, will STILL cause problems for the honest citizen…
I’m sure there are plenty of jagoff cops out there. And over the years, I’ve been pulled over my fair share of times, especially when I had that damn 733i. However in my case, the twain have never met as it’s yessir or yes officer.
You will never resolve anything mano on mano with a cop who has pulled you over. NEVER.
He’s armed, street wise and will be believed, sans video, about 100% of the time in court. The stop might have seemed unjust to you but life ain’t even steven. You want to escalate? Good luck with that.
My friend and I were riding around in my white Ranchero once and were pulled over by what seemed like 2 very overly aggressive cops. One approaching up each side of the car from behind. We could have “resisted” when they asked where were had been in the past half hour. We had a receipt from a downtown burger joint and wrappers which we showed them. Turns out there had been a robbery in the area where we had motored to(Cherry Creek) and a car like mine was seen speeding away.
just sayin
I’ve used COPFUCKS a number of times (killing without justification).
However………………..
In my many instances of meeting the police, they are generally polite and respectful. If you are polite and respectful, not drunk or high on drugs, the traffic stop should end without a negative ending.
There are far more crazy, angry, drug addled people than in the past. They are literally EVERYWHERE now, including law enforcement. It is a freak show in this country now.
Far too many cops are just psychopaths with guns.
That being said I just would comply and deal with it later in the hopes of a big pay day.
Thats what i said.
Gun… check!
Badge… check!
Anabolic steroids… check!
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/12/hundreds_of_nj_police_firefigh.html
Please feel free to disseminate this with attribution…thank you…I apologize for the long treatise on solutions for police brutality, but in light of this excellent article, here goes:
If anything, police should be held to a higher standard than that of the public…As it stands now, police can commit crimes with impunity because, in most situations, they investigate themselves…Behavior that would get an ordinary citizen charged, convicted and incarcerated is routinely ignored by “the powers that be” because police are considered to be “above the law” as the “law” is whatever they say it is, the Constitution be damned…
Police officers are the only group that can murder someone by falsely claiming that “they feared for their lives”, have 48 to 72 hours to “get their stories straight”, and have a union lawyer and compliant prosecutor-steered “grand jury” absolve them of responsibility.
Police demand immediate compliance (Israeli-style)–with two or three cops issuing and yelling out conflicting commands, it is easy to see how a person under police control could lose his life for merely attempting to follow conflicting directions.
Ever notice that police unions are “fraternal”? This should tell you something. The “thin-blue-line” is a gang, little different than street gangs–at least when it comes to “covering-up” their questionable and quite often, illegal and criminal behavior.
In today’s day and age, “officer safety” trumps de-escalation of force. This, in part, is due to the militarization of the police along with training in Israeli police tactics. This becomes a problem, with the “us vs. them” attitude that is fosters, along with the fact that Israel is a very different place, being on a constant “war footing”, its police tactics are very different.
There are too many instances of police being “given a pass”, even when incontrovertible video and audio evidence is presented. Grand juries, guided by police-friendly prosecutors, quite often refuse to charge those police officers who abuse their authority.
Police officers, who want to do the right thing, are quite often marginalized and put into harms way, by their own brethren…When a police officer is beating on someone that is already restrained while yelling, “stop resisting” THAT is but one reason police have a “bad name” in many instances…this makes the “good cops” who are standing around, witnessing their “brethren in blue” beating on a restrained suspect, culpable as well…
Here are changes that can help reduce police-induced violence:
1. Get rid of police unions. Police unions (fraternities) protect the guilty, and are responsible for the massive whitewashing of questionable police behavior that is presently being committed.
2. Eliminate both “absolute” and “qualified” immunity for all public officials. This includes, prosecutors and judges, police and firefighters, code enforcement and child protective services officials, and others who deal with the citizenry. The threat of being sued personally would encourage them to behave themselves. Require police officers to be “bonded” by an insurance company, with their own funds. No bond= no job.
3. Any public funds disbursed to citizens as a result of police misconduct should come out of police pension funds–NOT from the taxpayers.
4. Regular drug-testing of police officers as well as incident-based drug testing should take place whenever an officer is involved in a violent situation with a citizen–no exceptions.
5. Testing for steroid use should be a part of the drug testing program. You know damn well, many police officers “bulk up” with the “help” of steroids. Steroids also affect users mentally as well, making them more aggressive. The potential for abuse of citizens increases greatly with steroid use.
6. Internal affairs should only be used for disagreements between individual officers–NOT for investigations involving citizen abuse. State-level investigations should be mandatory for all suspected abuses involving citizens.
7. Prosecutors should be charged with malfeasance IF any evidence implicating police officer misconduct is not presented to the grand jury.
8. A national or state-by-state database of abusive individuals who should NEVER be allowed to perform police work should be established–a “blacklist” of abusive (former) police officers.
9. Most people are unaware that police have special “rules” that prohibit them from being questioned from 48 to 72 hours. This allows them to “get their stories straight” and makes it easier to “cover up” bad police behavior. Police must be subject to the same laws as civilians.
10. All police should be required to wear bodycams and utilize dashcams that cannot be turned off. Any police officers who causes a dash or body cam to be turned off should be summarily fired–no excuses. Today’s body and dash cams are reliable enough to withstand harsh treatment. Body and dashcam footage should be uploaded to a public channel “on the cloud” for public perusal.
11. All interrogations must be video and audio recorded. Police should be prohibited from lying or fabricating stories in order to get suspects to confess. False confessions ARE a problem in many departments. Unknown to most people, police can lie with impunity while civilians can be charged with lying to police…fair? I think not…
12. Any legislation passed that restricts the rights of ordinary citizens, such as firearms magazine capacity limits, types of weapons allowed, or restrictive concealed-carry laws should apply equally to police. No special exemptions to be given to police. Laws must be equally applied.
13 “Asset forfeiture” is a form of “legalized robbery under color of law” and must be abolished. We must return to Constitutional principles when it comes to “crimefighting”. The so-called “war on drugs” is actually a “war on the citizenry” and has had an extremely corrosive effect on the Constitutional principles that our country is (supposed to be) founded on.
14. “No-knock” raids must be abolished as they put both police and (especially citizens) in harms way. Even the Nazis “knocked on the door” before gaining entry.
15. SWAT teams must be reigned in on their “dynamic entry techniques”. Smashing everything in sight “just because they can”, blaming it on an “adrenaline rush” must end. There is NEVER a reason for destroying property.
16. The “21 foot rule” must be modified or abolished. American police training assumes that ANYONE that gets within 21 feet of a police officer and is deemed a threat, even a non-life-threatening situation is “fair game” for the use of lethal force. Persons with rakes, sticks, knoves, or even their fists have beem executed, even when non-lethal means would have been more appropriate. Police hide behind the “21 foot rule” in order to justify questionable police shootings. Their “excuse”, when brought before a prosecutor or grand jury is “that is the way they are trained”. THAT has to change. Police have a greater responsibility NOT to use deadly force against those that they could easily subdue by other means.
Police work is not inherently dangerous…there are many other professions that are much more dangerous.
A little “Andy Taylor” could go a long way in allaying fears that citizens have of police.
That being said, I have no problem with police officers who do their job in a fair, conscientious manner…however, it is time to call to task those police officers who only “protect and serve” themselves.
bully!
Here are “police” practices that deserve to be exposed:
#1. During a traffic stop, the police officer will touch the back of your car. The reason for this “touch” is that, quite often, the police officer will have a small quantity of narcotics (marijuana or cocaine) on him (in his hand) that he will rub on the car in order to help “justify a search”. When the dog is brought in, it will react to “cues” from its handler as well as the drug residue on the vehicle and help “justify a search”. This tactic is mostly used against young people. Drugs can also be “planted” on a “suspect”.
The “touch” used to be a way for police officers to “prove” that they had an interaction with a citizen, but no more . . .
#2. Most (if not all) cops possess a “throwdown” weapon. This “helper” is obtained from a criminal who is then “let go” without his weapon and is always used to justify a questionable police situation and to “sanitize” a “crime scene to absolve police on the scene of criminal police behavior.
#3. If you are in the back of a police car, LIE DOWN on the seat. Police use the concept of “screening” to abuse their unwilling “passenger”. This involves, driving at high rates of speed, violent turns and other antics to get the passenger to “hit the screen” separating the front from the back with his face. Hence the act of “screening”.
#4. If you are being handcuffed, quite often the police officer will wrench you arm behind you, forcing you to “turn around”. Another “trick” is a foot to the instep, forcing the individual to involuntarily “pull away”. The officer will then add a charge of “assault” to whatever other charges they concoct against you (just for being forced to turn around). They “pile on” charges, hoping you will plead guilty to at least one.
Remember–NEVER CONSENT TO SEARCH . . . You must be polite, but firm in your refusal. You can state that “you NEVER consent to searches” as well as using these “magic” words–“am I free to go?” The police officer MUST answer your question . . . If you are being detained and an illegal search takes place, you have legal recourse.
Remember–police are not your friends . . .
That being said, not all “law enforcement” personnel are criminal, but the “thin blue line” that they so jealously guard (and “look the other way” when rogue cops abuse their authority) does much to taint ALL “law enforcement” personnel with having ulterior motives.
A good cop won’t turn in a bad cop so you really have 2 bad cops
Exactly! Can’t be any good cops if they all turn a bind eye to the bullshit perpetrated by the criminal cops.
At every military base I ever lived on they had a little newspaper and in it they published the monthly Article 15 breakdown. Military police always took top honors by committing the vast majority of assaults, rapes and other violent crimes in addition to committing most of the robberies, thefts, B&E and other property/vehicle crimes. If you weren’t qualified for anything else when you joined the USAF I think they just made you a cop.
I had a job at Shaw AFB where I was being trained by two young G.I.’s. Turns out they were cops temporarily assigned to the Commissary while awaiting trial for theft of cigarettes, alcohol and of all things, landing lights, from the active runways there at Shaw. They were on work release but had to report to the base jail every night after work. They were found guilty and sentenced to several years at Ft. Leavenworth, KS where they learned to make little rocks out of big rocks under the supervision of Marines that ran the place.
A number of years ago (has it been that long?) there was a situation in a Texas fast-food eatery in which fast-food workers refused to serve the cops. The story picked up by the mainstream media was that the cops were being “disrespected” by the fast-food workers and that they should be fired. The article tried to make people feel sorry for the cops.
Now “for the rest of the story” (that the mainstream media “forgot” to print)…
These fast-food workers were all well-behaved young kids who were constantly being harassed by these cops. These kids would be pulled over for no reason, or on a false pretext., issued tickets, and were harassed by these same cops “just because they could”. A ticket could mean the loss of a whole week’s pay…These kids definitely got an “education” on the true nature of “law enforcement”…
The “21-foot rule” is a training concept that has been embedded into normal police practices as well as law that authorizes the use of “deadly force” by police officers if they feel their life or well-being is threatened.
This “21-foot rule” is used to justify (normally unjustifiable killings–actually homicides) by police against those who invade that 21-foot “sphere” that police have reserved for themselves.
This “rule” is abused much of the time, being used against mentally-ill suspects, and others, even innocent parties, “just because they can”–it is easier to shoot someone than to “talk them down” and gain control of a situation.
A person with a rake, shovel, stick, or even a knife can be disarmed by the use of non-lethal methods, such as a baton, taser, or just good martial-arts techniques. Any police officer who cannot disarm a person with a rake, shovel, or stick without resorting to lethal force has no business being employed as a police officer…
The “21-foot rule” should be abolished and replaced with policies that stress non-lethal forms of gaining control.
good luck on that
I’m courteous respectful affable and personable. This places the ball back in their court
Being personable and affable divulges to me shortly, where their heads at.
It’s a tit-for-tat thing that can be amusing and rewarding. And it quickly, more often than not, divulges how serious the situation may be.
I feel empathy to those who don’t travel lightly ( giving cause to initiate a search) but living in a Florida County renowned for taking the Patriot Act to the hilt and having seen numerous K-9s in action along the interstate that flows through these parts, best to remember the odds.
Hope this wasn’t too high a horse, Hah.
I recently ask a cop at a restaurant what is the best thing to if you get pulled over at night.He said turn on the inside light.Then put your hands on the steering wheel so they can see them.He said then just corporate and everything should be ok but if you do get a ticket don’t get upset .Just wait and have your day in court.Make sense to me.
I believe Stucky needs a hug and Indent Service has got V D again . Indent I told you to stop messing around with those BLACK gals.Damn boy now look at you .Back in the same Jam as before.
that is exactly what I did the last time I was pulled over. At 3 am. Windows down, dome light on, hands of wheel, parked so I could not get away with him parked behind me. He asked if I had been drinking. I said I stopped at midnight which was true. He told me he stopped me because I was too far over in the right lane going across a deserted 3 mile bridge. I do that to avoid the racers speeding over the bridge at 100 mph. I didn’t tell him that but I should have. He let me go with a smile.
When they pull you over just remember they really just want your money
“11. All interrogations must be video and audio recorded. Police should be prohibited from lying or fabricating stories in order to get suspects to confess. False confessions ARE a problem in many departments. Unknown to most people, police can lie with impunity while civilians can be charged with lying to police…fair? I think not…”
Sad to say but the above is my experience in spades and hearts. I was looking at 30 years for believing the cop fuk.
The only thing worse than a lying cop fuk is a vigilante prosecutor with two lying cop fuks working for him.
Or maybe a proby who would send you to jail rather than let you call a bail bond and let you skip the trip to the clink and be screened.
That’s such a great scene.
Install 4-way video recorders in all your vehicles. Utilize them “liberally”. Not that expensive and may save your life if and when you encounter the copfuks.
unit472/!!!! thankyou for that tip! u tha man:>:>
i’m sure muslim cop Noor won’t be prosecuted for his sharia murder in mpls
I will always be respectful to cops – same as I am to anyone. I will be careful not to spook them, because, well, they are cops. I will not do sit just to piss them off, like hold my license against the window, or only roll the window down 1/2 inch, etc. I will not antagonize them by filming them unless I have serious reason to do so.
But I will not agree to stuff like voluntary search of my car, etc. Get a fucking warrant. I will not forgo my basic rights.
I do not like cops. They make their living preying on citizens. I know they are a necessary evil. But they simply cannot be trusted because they are indoctrinated to prey on citizens, and they are more concerned with their safety than that of the public.
Every despot turns to the police when they need thugs to crush the citizenry.
This all comes down to those who live in cupcake land (where many small town/suburban cops abuse their authority) applying collective guilt to every other police officer in the land (who couldn’t possibly know every other small town cop). This collective guilt is a technique that is commonly used by leftist, so it perplexes me why it is used by people who commonly refer to themselves as libertarians.
Then there those of us who are white flight refugees from the urban jungle, who are more concerned that afro americans have killed more of American residents than all other groups (including terrorist). We dealt with the real consequences of violence by living with it personally, and most city police officers are looked upon as the last line of defense against afro american destructive chaos. We are able to make the distinction that city police have nothing to do with the small town officer who likes to abuse their authority.
All this indiscriminate damning of police provides aid & comfort to groups like BLM. If they cared about their fellow citizens, who were victims of afro violence, as much as they loved to complain about small town cops, they they would be outraged by BLM (but I guess not ever living in direct consequences from afro american violence, they complain about traffic stops instead). Wow, many (but not all) small town cops abuse their authority, what a revelation! But how does that compare to all the criminal/economic damage that afro americans did to this nation over the last 50 years (and the need to keep them contained from doing more)?