Rising Debt + Rising Rates

Have they all lost their collective minds? Look I get that some people are leaning Democrat versus Republican and vice versa and that’s fine, but what exactly are voters getting? If, on the one hand, you think Democrats tax and spend too much you get Republicans on the other hand who cut taxes with disproportional benefit to the top 1% and then spend even more. Fiscal conservatives? Please.

In early February the US government was already scheduled to borrow nearly $1 trillion this year. 

A week later and that figure is already out the door as this week as both parties agreed to expand spending caps seemingly preparing for World War III. An incremental hundreds of billions of dollars to the military budget alone in just 2 years. What for? To what end? It’s a bonanza for defense contractors surely and the president apparently wants a parade, but have we entered the math no longer applies zone?

The numbers are staggering:

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The end result? Much, much more borrowing and deficits into the trillion+ range forever and ever amen:

2019? Looks lot be $1.4 Trillion.

I didn’t see these figures mentioned in any campaign brochures have you? And this is all pre-recession folks. We get a recession and you are looking at 2-3 trillion dollar deficits.

Think I’m going hyperbole on you?

Watch this: Here’s a chart I posted back in 2016 when I called all this Empty Promises. Look at what the CBO then had projected in terms of coming deficits for 2018 and 2019:

I spot roughly $500B for 2018 and a little over $600B in 2019. Now we’re looking at figures double these for the same time frame and that’s ASSUMING the rosy growth forecasts they’ve all baked into these forecasts come to fruition.

These numbers don’t represent a slight increase, they represent a deficit explosion and the CBO forecast from 2016 for the 10 years into 2026 are already hopelessly outdated. At the current rate we’ll be hitting $24 trillion by the next presidential election.

In case nobody has noticed: Rates are going higher and any new borrowing will be at higher rates and old debt will have to be refinanced at higher rates. Reduce tax revenues in the process and you end up with a fiscal disaster.

Indeed rising interest payments will represent the fastest growth line item in the US budget:

“Interest On The Debt Will Be The Fastest Growing Part Of The Federal Budget…By Far. Forget Medicare, Social Security and the Pentagon: $1 trillion-plus deficits means massive increases in the national debt and that debt will have to be borrowed at higher interest rates (see #1). Add the need for the Treasury to roll-over existing debt at higher and higher rates and you get an immediate increase in the amount the U.S. will need to spend on interest each year.”

Watch this space:

Some people may argue that tax cuts will bring in so much economic growth it will all pay for itself. There is precisely zero evidence for such an assertion:

If you know your tax cut history you know where in the chart above major tax cuts were passed. The debt continued to rise and will continue to rise as spending continues to be expanded.

But here’s the kicker: Never in modern times have we seen tax cuts being implemented and spending increased with debt to GDP north of 100%:

Many corporations are drowning in debt, as are consumers, and so are their interest payments:

People invariably argue and say: Yea well, but as a percent of disposable income it’s not so bad. Yes, it’s called artificial low rates, they can mask a lot, but what is currently the situation is not the point, it’s sustainability of debt loads in the very immediate future.

As you saw in the above data we are already seeing a vast increase in interest payments despite rates having barely moved off of the historic zero bound line.

Here’s the prime rate history dating to the early 80’s:

We’ve barely scrapped off the bottom yet.

A sign to cut down on debt?

Nah, just keep charging it:

To fully grasp the depth of the insanity just follow the math:

“As for total debt, the CBO last predicted borrowings of $25.5 trillion by 2027. According to Riedl, the tax cuts, new discretionary outlays and additional interest on the extra spending could add $5 trillion to that number, bringing the total of $30 trillion. That’s 107% of the national income estimate projected by the CBO. The scariest unknown is what happens to interest expense. At $25.5 trillion, the CBO forecasts outlays for interest of $818 billion in 2027. Going to $30 trillion will raise the load to over $1 trillion. One dollar in seven in spending would be going to interest, versus one in 15 today.

And that scenario assumes that the yield on the 10-year Treasury increases to just 3.5% over the next decade, far below its historic average. “If rates go to their average in the 1990s,” warns Riedl, “the deficit will go not to $2 trillion, but to between $2.5 and $3 trillion.

I must repeat: Not one of these projections assume a recession.

So I must ask again: Have they all lost their collective minds? I see no party even pretending to care anymore. Debt ceilings? Gimmicks. Fiscal conservatives? A slogan. Caring about the obligations of future obligations? Nobody cares.

I’ve expressed my concerns before (see below) and the recent data points show an acceleration in debt accumulation into rising rates that takes the breath away.

 

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BB
BB
February 11, 2018 4:59 pm

And all that money going to pay interest on “money ” created out of nothing.800 + billion dollars going directly to the banks and the Families that own the Central Banks.Damn what a Demonic scam .
I would rather have Trump in office when it does Collapse.He may just hand all this ” debt ” back to the banks.
They got all this money they are creating out of thin air but they won’t create money for a damn wall to stop illegal immigration.I hate these son of a bitches more and more every day

Anonymous
Anonymous
  BB
February 12, 2018 8:25 am

“And all that money going to pay interest on “money ” created out of nothing.”

Since it is all “created out of nothing”, including that which is used to pay the interest which had that same creating source, so what?

kokoda the Deplorable Raccoon and I-LUV-CO2
kokoda the Deplorable Raccoon and I-LUV-CO2
February 11, 2018 5:07 pm

It was either get re-elected with more spending (look what I did for you) or be booted out for advocating to cut spending which will hurt the voting public.

CCRider
CCRider
February 11, 2018 5:48 pm

Just think of the withering, bone-ass contempt these fucking politicians have for the rabble they lord over. Mulvaney was on a number of shows this morning telling us with a straight face-smiling actually-that adding this debt is a good thing. That the extra spending and colossal expansion of debt in a single year will be offset by growth in the economy-betting that 10 years into a recovery we won’t face another recession for as far as the eye can see. What unmitigated gall. Who can believe this shit? How many fucking times will we have to hear this horseshit before these mulvany cocksuckers are made too embarrassed to utter such bold faced lies? And the sad part is that they do it because it works. God how I hate what this country has become.

motley
motley
February 11, 2018 6:18 pm

Perhaps someone can explain this to ‘Q’ who thinks everything is about to come up aces. The race to bedlam continues no matter who occupies the Whitehouse. To deny the actual evidence is lunacy. Funny … the shear levels of profligant spending are announced in the open. No need for cryptic, double-entendre tweets. And yet, so many WANT to believe things are about to get better. Whatever.

Crawfisher
Crawfisher
February 11, 2018 7:26 pm

The person who has the gold, makes the rules. (Regardless of political party)
My personal belief is those who ‘got’ theirs, couldn’t give a sh*t about the average person.

I always wondered where the ~10 trillion Obama borrowed went? For the life of me, I have no real idea, and have not seen any smart opinion writers describe or define where it went.
But it sure as hell got spent and us taxpayers were left with a future bill to pay.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Crawfisher
February 11, 2018 7:44 pm

Where’d the $10 trillion go? Military, the healthcare industries via Medicare and doled out as Social Security payments.

This debt is about to go parabolic. There was no goddamn reason to to bust the “sequester” caps. Hell, those limits were woefully inadequate. And while some tax reform made sense, an overall cut in taxes wasn’t needed.

The weighted average cost of debt service was barely over 1% two years ago. Now the 10 year is up to 2.85% with further increase likely. 3% annual cost to service $20T is $600B in interest alone. We’re adding debt at double the rate of GDP growth and it’s about to get a lot worse.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Iska Waran
February 12, 2018 8:27 am

And the Stock market, a lot of it went there.

Which only benefits those who, for example, have 401k’s and such.

Rainstorm
Rainstorm
February 11, 2018 8:17 pm

Over the past several decades, there have been multitudes of citizens and analysts who have warned about the eventual consequences of rising local, state and federal debt.

Game over.

Protect yourself.

Wip
Wip
February 12, 2018 12:27 am

“Interest On The Debt Will Be The Fastest Growing Part Of The Federal Budget…By Far.”

Maybe this is why we spend so much on military?

Trapped in Portlandia
Trapped in Portlandia
April 11, 2018 11:04 pm

First Stockman and now this guy using that magical thinking called math. Forget math and facts. That stuff is for losers. All you need to believe is that TPTB will protect us and keep us happy.

Just like livestock are happy as the are chowing down all that good grain on their last day.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
April 12, 2018 12:00 am

Right now we are able to pass most of this on to the other 6.8 billion hapless chumps on the planet by way of Petro Dollar debasement. Hence the need to neuter Russia and China by way of Syria. The Petro Dollar is a worldwide tax by way of debasement. The game must be kept alive at any cost. Sure we pay interest on those bonds but we get it back.