Tesla’s Death Dive

Guest Post by Eric Peters

It is beginning.

Actually, it’s been happening for a long time – like a slowly metastasizing cancer. The afflicted can no longer hide the underlying disease.

Tesla is dying.

Elon is panicking – and executives are bailing. Yesterday, the company’s chief accounting officer, Dave Morton, resigned less than a month after taking the job. What do you imagine he  . . . took account of?

Left column, right column. What didn’t add up?

“Since I joined Tesla on August 6th, the level of public attention placed on the company, as well as the pace within the company, have exceeded my expectations,” Morton said a statement released by the company in a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission. “As a result, this caused me to reconsider my future.”

Italics added.

This is the sort of pabulum boilerplate issued by fleeing White House staffers, who sense a sinking ship and would rather not get wet.

“I want to be clear that I believe strongly in Tesla, its mission, and its future prospects, and I have no disagreements with Tesla’s leadership or its financial reporting,” he added.

Of course. I have nothing but respect for the president and his leadership… .

Also abandoning ship is Tesla’s chief “people officer” –  whatever that is. Gaby Toledano – who served as whatever that is – also announced she will not be coming back to work on the same day that Morton pinched his nose with his left hand and jumped over the railings into the water below.

Musk released another boilerplate nothing-to-see-here statement: Toledano is merely leaving in order to ” . . .spend more time with her family and has decided to continue doing so for personal reasons.”

But the Street is not taking these departures lightly.

Tesla’s stock prices took a a 6.3 percent dive on Friday; the night prior (Thursday) Elon was seen on a Podcast smoking a joint and drinking whiskey and looking extremely Doomed, like a saggy male version of Anne Bolyen the day before her date with the French swordsman King Henry had imported as a final gesture of kindness toward his soon to be headless ex.

But the death dive is steeper than just 6.3 percent. Since August – when Elon began to show public signs of coming unglued – the value of the electric car company’s stock has lost a third of its former value.

This followed Musk’s surprise (to investors) announcement that he was going to take the company private – so as to keep its coming-unglued operations private. For the first time since the electric car con’s founding some 15 years ago, mainstream media media analysts were finally beginning to raise their hands and ask serious questions. This unnerved Elon, who responded dismissively and petulantly.

“Boring!”

“Lame!”

But, as the saying goes, reality bites.

Tesla has never earned money but has taken a great deal of it. About $5.4 billion so far. At its peak, the value of Tesla stock was higher than the value of GM or Ford stock but then, Enron and WorldCom (for those who remember) were once highly valued, too. The fact that something has a price tag does not always mean it has value. And if it does not have value, the price inevitably falls.

GM and Ford – whatever their many flaws as companies – sell an inherently viable product. Not necessarily any specific model of GM or Ford car, but the internal combustion-powered car. These would exist even if GM and Ford went out of business. They do not require mandates and subsidies to exist.

Tesla is flawed as a company – and sells a product that is not viable. If this were not true, Tesla (and electric cars, generally) could exist without reliance on such things as carbon credits and zero emissions vehicle production quotas, which attempt to replace market demand for electric cars – virtually nil – with government mandates.

The problem there is people can’t (yet) be forced to buy electric cars and even those who are interested lose interest when faced with having to actually buy them at market prices. As an example of this, when Denmark eliminated the personal subsidy given to electric car buyers, Tesla sales crashed  by 94 percent. That’s not a typo. With the subsidy in place, 2,738 Teslas were sold in 2015. With the subsidies gone, 176 Teslas were sold the following year.

Elon has admitted openly that he can’t do “business” without these subsidies: “Clean energy vehicles” – as he styles them – “aren’t attractive enough to compete without some form of taxpayer-backed subsidy.”

But the taxpayer-backed subsidies he speaks of are on the cusp of disappearing. Well, one of them is on the cusp of disappearing – and it’s a big one. It is the personal subsidy allotted by Uncle to every purchaser (I use the word loosely) of a Tesla, amounting to as much as $7,500 per car.

It is what has kept Elon afloat (sort of) thus far.

But the subsidy no longer applies once a company makes more than a relative handful of electric Turduckens. Then the purchaser must pay his own way – and so must Elon. The problem is that Teslian profitability – that never-to-be-reached oasis in the desert – depends entirely on mass-production and mass sales (real ones, not give-aways) of electric Turduckens, specifically, the much-touted Model 3.

Elon is now caught between a very big rock and a very hard place.

He cannot make a profit on his mass-produced Model 3 without the billions in subsidies necessary to tamp down the transaction price enough to make these things appealing to a mass audience.

But if he sells more than a few of the things, the subsidy gets pulled and the cars instantly become cost prohibitive for most people to consider buying.

What now, brown cow?

Morton – no dummy – knows. So also other fleeing-the-ship Teslians.

The Tesla 3 – at a market price – is grossly overpriced. It’s a $40,000-plus compact sedan that offers little – besides being electric – that you couldn’t buy for about $20,000 in a non-electric compact sedan.

Unlike the six-figure Model S – which is at least luxurious and ultra-fancy – the Model 3 is pretty spartan in terms of its features and amenities. It has AC and most power options, a nice stereo and a big LCD screen. Some “apps.”

And so do most $20,000 non-electric compact sedans.

Elon wants people to compare the Tesla 3 with entry-level luxury compact sedans like the Audi A3 and Lexus ES350. But those cars still cost thousands less and are much nicer cars.

They have luxuries and amenities the Tesla 3 doesn’t.

Plus, room. A car like the ES350 (which shares its chassis with the Toyota Avalon) is a mid-sized-verging-on-full-sized car, with a wonderfully roomy back seat and a big trunk. The Tesla 3 has neither.

Most people who have $40k to spend on a car want –  expect – more in the way of features and amenities (and room) than they’d get for $20,000. Electricity only takes you so far – literally as well as figuratively.

But Elon doesn’t care what the market wants or expects.

Tesla is in trouble – on death’s door – for exactly this reason. Elon’s effrontery and arrogance.

Which is the effrontery and arrogance of the whole electric car putsch.

Just the right word.

A putsch is an attempt by a small – necessarily violent – minority to impose itself on the majority.

If there were market demand for what Elon’s selling, Elon would not have trouble selling it.

As simple as that is, it’s a complexity unfathomable by Elon, the know-it-all.

But it’s a reality check everyone else is beginning to appreciate – including people who used to work for Elon.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
September 9, 2018 8:33 am

It’s ok. I’m sure his Space Fraud enterprise is on the up-and-up.

bigfootmm
bigfootmm
September 9, 2018 8:36 am

I hold one lousy $300 2020 put that cost me $7500. After Elon’s “funding secured” tweet, the put was down $4k. Yesterday it was up over $1k for a $5k swing in a couple of weeks. One put! Imagine all the big shorts who got stopped out after that tweet. Pissed would be the mildest term to describe it. Lawsuits are a coming to town all claiming Elon had malicious intent. The Board must be losing their minds about now, but the Tesla diehards are still super confident in Elon — or at least they say so . . .

Michael Price
Michael Price
  bigfootmm
September 14, 2018 9:21 am

Chanos’s lawyer took one look at the Musk text and started calculating how many billable work hours he’d get out of it.

SmallerGovNow
SmallerGovNow
September 9, 2018 9:15 am

California had brown outs recently due to the heat and didn’t have enough power generation to cool homes and businesses. BUT, they want 100% electric vehicles to add to that same undersized power grid. Not only that, but they expect to replace all “fossil fuel” power generation with “renewables”. Math is not a strong suit of the progressive communists. Tesla will fail in the same way all the electric vehicle lines are failing through the major car manufacturers. Nobody seems to understand it still takes a lot of oil to build electric cars… Chip

KaD
KaD
  SmallerGovNow
September 9, 2018 1:19 pm

Not only that, but where the F do they think electricity comes from? Most is from burning coal.

Ham Roid
Ham Roid
  SmallerGovNow
September 9, 2018 4:07 pm

The math is there! Commiefornia is on track to have half their idiot lib population either emigrate to lower tax red states or relocate to tents and streetside shanties nearby! Whorywood will have ‘lectricity-a-plenty!

Mr. Frosty
Mr. Frosty
  SmallerGovNow
September 9, 2018 7:32 pm

It’s going to take CA a small ocean of petroleum to rebuild its electric infrastructure and build the renewable infrastructure (wind farms, solar panels) from scratch.

The liberals don’t even seem aware of this irony.

CCRider
CCRider
September 9, 2018 9:24 am

I like Joe Rogan. He’s interesting and does his homework. But I could only listen to about 15 minutes of him blowing jet engine smoke up musk’s ass till I bailed. Did anyone suffer through this? If so please let us know at what point Rogan went pedal to the medal on this grifter.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  CCRider
September 9, 2018 10:32 am

I bailed after 5 minutes, tops. Musk is crazy.

anonsortof
anonsortof
  CCRider
September 9, 2018 11:24 am

I like Joe, too, but there’s a goofy side to him that will surface like this in about 1 in 20 podcasts.

unit472
unit472
September 9, 2018 9:34 am

I’m really curious how the 2nd hand market develops for Tesla. Right now the prices for used Tesla’s are all over the place at Autotrader but its a thin market. What should concern owners of Teslas is the lack of a dealer network for service and Teslas lack of support for its out of warranty cars. People are not buying a car from a full service auto manufacturer and god help them when the inevitable recall arrives and the lack of service centers combined with Teslas production problems leaves their cars inoperable for an extended period of time.

Rossa
Rossa
  unit472
September 9, 2018 11:33 am

IMO the biggest problem in buying a used EV is the purchase of a large, second hand, rechargeable battery that will eventually not hold sufficient charge to run the car. Then it’s just a lump of metal with a dead battery. Anyone buying a used Tesla or any other EV has to calculate the cost of a replacement at some unknown point in the future, and add that to the lifetime costs….or not.

Can’t see there being many 10, 15 or even 20 year old Teslas on the road, can you?

jamesthedeplorablewanderer
jamesthedeplorablewanderer
  Rossa
September 9, 2018 12:51 pm

Buying one new (if you’re crazy enough to want one) is challenging in some places. Utah will not allow sale of Teslas, because you must buy them FROM Tesla, not a dealer. That is, the new car dealers in Utah own the legislature (or its powers in that area), so they got a law passed that no one can buy a new car in Utah without going through a dealer. It’s kind of a restraint-of-trade law and would probably be nullified if anyone challenged it in court, but now it’s law. Tesla can set up SHOWROOMS (there’s one in Salt Lake City) and you can even test-drive one, but because it’s owned (the showroom) by Tesla they can’t sell you a car. You can hop across the line to Nevada and buy one, take delivery there and drive it back to Utah (about a three or four hour operation from Salt Lake City) but then there is no real network to service it either (much outside of SLC).
Sound ridiculous? It is – but then, apparently not that many people want an electric car, so no challenge to the law (that I know of, anyway). Maybe they all read Eric Peters and decided to do something else?

starfcker
starfcker
  Rossa
September 9, 2018 2:39 pm

Because replacing a battery in something is hard? Ever own a flashlight?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  starfcker
September 9, 2018 2:49 pm

OK Fanboy, we get it.

starfcker
starfcker
  Anonymous
September 9, 2018 3:03 pm

Fanboy, huh? “Most people who have $40k to spend on a car want – expect – more in the way of features and amenities (and room)” Hey Eric, you do realize that Tesla sold more model 3’s alone last month then BMW sold cars and SUVs in the United States? Maybe you should do some research before you write these rants.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  starfcker
September 9, 2018 3:31 pm

how many of those were fully paid on & delivered?
% please–

starfcker
starfcker
  TampaRed
September 9, 2018 5:01 pm

Are you talking about the BMW’s, Tampa? Because most of those are probably leases.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  starfcker
September 9, 2018 6:47 pm

when an automobile is leased the manufacturer is paid,even if it is the automaker’s own finance company doing the leasing–
how many teslas were fully paid on & delivered vs buyers taking delivery on cars ordered months ago or deposits on cars not yet paid on/delivered?

unit472
unit472
  starfcker
September 9, 2018 7:32 pm

Gotta remember the used vehicle market. BMW, as a guess, probably has 3 or 4 used BMWs for sale for everyone new one sitting in a dealers lot. This matters because a person might decide a 3 or 4 year old BMW5 is a better buy than a new BMW3

Slay Them With Memes
Slay Them With Memes
September 9, 2018 9:36 am

How anyone could be so duped by a guy with the last name of “Musk” is the funniest thing to me in this whole charade. Say his name out loud a few times and try not to laugh. Go ahead, out loud and slowly, say it….Elon…Musk…lol.

Boat Guy
Boat Guy
  Slay Them With Memes
September 9, 2018 10:47 am

Musk Rat love ?

Boat Guy
Boat Guy
September 9, 2018 10:45 am

Tesla , Space-X and now the flame thrower boring company are all grandiose plans or dreams of a modern day PT Barnum . Musks intelligence and exuberance in public does not change his mental instability of a childish narcacistic adult convinced by himself and all he surrounds himself with how special he and his ideas are .
No doubt the space-x and Tesla car company have come up with some interesting stuff but like most luxurious liberal endevours the massive costs for minimal achievement is hidden in the details always behind the curtain . When you add the debt service to the achievements there is no there , there !
Like a section 8 landlord convincing someone else to pay exorbitant rent for a non-performing property investment so some sad sack can live in it rent free .
Oh if those of us in the real world could only understand how special pissing our hard earned wealth confiscated from us down another rat hole . Like a war on drugs , poverty , terror and now the CO2 we exhale . Almost forgot the corn alcohol from VP Mike Pences neck of the woods . Just another subsidy to buy government a little longer .
In the end the circle jerk of Wall Street to K-Street to Capitol Street will win out regardless of the continous spiral down the drain average Americans go .

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Boat Guy
September 9, 2018 1:30 pm

I still recall back in say 2010 (MOL) when a notable Blogger that should know better lauded Space X as being a “private” rocket/space company and how that was much better than having NASA do it, etc. How this otherwise intelligent and perceptive blogger could think this, and not understand that ALL of Space X’s funding came via the USGOV in one fashion or another was beyond me: oh no, Boeing has projects with them, etc. Duh, and who is funding Boeing for that work?

Cleveland Rocks
Cleveland Rocks
September 9, 2018 12:13 pm

” The fact that something has a price tag does not always mean it has value. And if it does not have value, the price inevitably falls.” Great line and truth.

anon
anon
September 9, 2018 12:15 pm
Collateral Damage
Collateral Damage
  anon
September 9, 2018 12:40 pm

Excellent video. Humility is considered a mental disorder akin to criminal insanity to a self-centered prick. Which is projection.

ursel doran
ursel doran
September 9, 2018 12:20 pm

EXCELLENT musings sir, and there is one other pin stuck in his balloon.
The company lives on the continual supply of the plus Five percent convertible junk bonds, doubtless for HUGE FEES, and turn over to the underwriter of selling them at a discount and shorting them at the same time, as the game is played there..
Wall St. is happy to sell them to suckers looking for yield on the assumption that they will be converted to shares that will always and only go up. That delusion is now and forever shattered.
Put the mark on the calendar when the first issued has to be redeemed, and its over.
Also the rate of the cash burn can indicate when the next one will have to be sold, or NOT.

starfcker
starfcker
September 9, 2018 12:55 pm

I used to know a guy years ago who lived in Fort Myers by the name of Bob Halgrim. Bob was Thomas Edison’s assistant. His house was full of things that Edison had given him over the years. He would show me things and tell me how they came to be. Edison was very similar to Elon Musk in many ways. A guy who just never ran out of ideas. Henry Ford and Edison had their winter homes in Fort Myers side-by-side. You can go look through them now, the two homes are basically one big compound and it’s open to the public. I find it funny when people rag about Henry Ford or Musk on this forum. Greatness is very scarce. But it can change the arc of human existence. Edison certainly did. I wouldn’t be surprised if Musk ends up the same way. He is not cracking up. Tesla is not dying. There’s a guy named Kevin Williamson over at National Review who wrote an article a couple years ago describing how Trump misunderstood trade with China. When it was bought to Trump’s attention, he laughed. Trump did tens of millions of dollars worth of business with China every year. Kevin Williamson’s business history with China involved shopping at Walmart, yet he felt qualified to give Donald Trump advice on international trade with China. This is the exact same thing. Eric Peters can’t even understand how a speed limit might be desirable thing. Yet he feels qualified to judge Elon Musk, a man who has built a 50 billion dollar business in a market segment that didn’t exist until he got there. Yes there’s a huckster in this equation, but it’s not Elon Musk

Aquapura
Aquapura
  starfcker
September 9, 2018 1:27 pm

I will grant you that Mr. Peter’s pens opinion pieces while Elon Musk runs some substantial enterprises, profitable or not. That being said, comparing him to Edison is a bridge too far for me. The things that Edison developed were truly revolutionary overnight. Musk isn’t doing anything that hasn’t been done before. Electric cars existed when Edison was alive. Putting 2000’s tech in a fancy wrapper doesn’t make something suddenly change the world. I’d argue personal vehicles, no matter what powers them, is not revolutionary at all. You didn’t fix congestion, you didn’t increase speed. Pollution arguably has just been shifted somewhere else. All window dressing bullshit. Invent a Star Trek style transporter and I’ll be impressed. The rest is just refining what has already been.

What I will say, Elon and Edison have one thing in common, their fame is built on the backs of the engineers they employ.

starfcker
starfcker
  Aquapura
September 9, 2018 2:08 pm

I would say he’s exactly like Edison. Watch the bits of the Rogan podcast where he’s actually tasting the joint. The guy does nothing but riff insane ideas constantly. That’s how those kinds of minds work. He actually touches on congestion. “their fame is built on the backs of the engineers they employ.” I’ve said several times on this forum. Good ideas are basically worthless without the skill set to turn them into something substantial.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  starfcker
September 9, 2018 1:35 pm

Elon Musk is no Thomas Edison, nor Henry Ford. Musk was created and survives ONLY because of public financing. In that sense, he is no different than any Federal employee.

starfcker
starfcker
  Anonymous
September 9, 2018 2:09 pm

He’s quite different from almost all federal employees. He has a skill set that few people on the Earth possess

Mike
Mike
  starfcker
September 9, 2018 4:56 pm

Plunder! Squared!

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
  starfcker
September 9, 2018 6:11 pm

Musk has also committed securities fraud on several occasions, and should be removed from management entirely.

Michael Price
Michael Price
  starfcker
September 14, 2018 8:46 am

Name an idea he’s had that worked. Name a prediction he’s made that had happened even close to when he said it would.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  starfcker
September 9, 2018 3:41 pm

star,
why do you defend musk so much?you seem to be emotionally invested in musk for some reason–
comparing musk to ford/edison is absurd–they did,musk has not–

starfcker
starfcker
  TampaRed
September 9, 2018 5:05 pm

I’m not emotionally invested in it at all. I just take great satisfaction in pointing out to people in advance how the wool has been pulled over their eyes by the dishonest press. I only tend to do things like this when the event horizon is short enough that we will see the results soon. it’s my way of trying to get people to think.

Michael Price
Michael Price
  starfcker
September 14, 2018 8:51 am

Who is likely to be lying, the people with no skin in the game who have been willing to parrot Musk’s hype, our Musk who called questions about whether Tesla would need more financing “boring”?

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
  starfcker
September 9, 2018 6:09 pm

Real businesses don’t rely on government subsidies and don’t lose close to a billion dollars in a quarter…Musk has never made any money, and is terrible at manufacturing, so he’s a scam…

KaD
KaD
September 9, 2018 1:18 pm

I can’t believe it took this long for people to smell the Mt. Everest size pile of dead fish.

AC
AC
September 9, 2018 1:21 pm

He was fine until this:

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Then the press and the financial industry started working together like a fist in a glove to destroy him.

https://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/02/opinion/nocera-how-punch-protected-the-times.html

starfcker
starfcker
  AC
September 9, 2018 2:10 pm

“The press and the financial industry have set out to destroy him.” They had their moment. He was vulnerable for a while, as any enterprise is at certain points. Looks like he’s the one that’s going to win though

Darrell Dullnig
Darrell Dullnig
  starfcker
September 9, 2018 4:06 pm

One thing you can say for S-fcker, long after the last Tesla has been laid to rest in that great junk yard in the sky, and Musk is food for worms, he will likely be running like the Everready bunny.

BL
BL
  Darrell Dullnig
September 9, 2018 5:04 pm

He is dedicated dude. I’m betting he is still married to the same woman since high school. I like that and I really think a lot of Star even though I give him shit daily.

Of course he is completely in the weeds, but who knows Tesla may survive in another venture yet unseen.

starfcker
starfcker
  Administrator
September 9, 2018 5:23 pm

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Per/Norway
Per/Norway
September 9, 2018 7:43 pm

but but but he is a visionary and smokes pot just like me, he must be a genius and besides all that he is ironman and a superhero.
sarc off.

Anonymous
Anonymous
September 9, 2018 8:09 pm

Elon ate GM’s cheese. And got filthy rich doing so. Ha Ha.

TampaRed
TampaRed
September 9, 2018 9:12 pm

tesla’s bondholders are getting antsy also–

As Musk Goes Nuts Publicly, Tesla Bondholders Get Antsy

22winmag - Hug a Nazi, punch a Socialist!
22winmag - Hug a Nazi, punch a Socialist!
September 9, 2018 9:21 pm
TampaRed
TampaRed
  22winmag - Hug a Nazi, punch a Socialist!
September 9, 2018 9:59 pm

winnie,
i’ve never read miles mathis b4 you posted this –does he just have an inflated ego or is he stark raving crazy?

TampaRed
TampaRed
September 9, 2018 9:27 pm

this is not about tesla but it’s also about a failing business–
cryptos are in a state of collapse

Crypto-Mania Collapse Update: $638 Billion Gone

bigfootmm
bigfootmm
  TampaRed
September 10, 2018 7:57 pm

Sounds like that drop is a lot like what has happened to the Federal Note, aka the dollar bill, which is a debt instrument and is unbacked by anything other then the technology of the digital “printing press” and the word of a spendthrift government.

Cryptos are manipulated by big money. Could it be that big money wants in at lower prices? Could it be that big money ran BTC up to $20k and sold into the top and on the way down in order to discourage real investment by the little guy? What are cryptos backed by? How about 50 years of technology and a bright idea whose time has come? A trustless currency that cannot be hyperinflated by anyone at all seems like a good idea, right? Then there are all the tokens that will be used in real businesses that will remove big banks from our lives and make supremely more efficient transactions in countless other enterprises worldwide. Take a broader view, Tampa. Not that hard to avoid the scams and choose among the prospects having brilliant managers behind them. Some of them will be enormous, so buy into a dozen and hold on. E.g. BTC BCH LTC VERI PPT OMG ADX ZEC XLM ETH ZRX DGB

Or you can buy FB GOOGL AMZN GM BA GE and the like and pretend you are buying solid, long-term money-makers that you believe won’t crash in the next year or sooner. TSLA is up $20 today, so we know (not!) the markets always correct in the direction dictated by good reasons. TSLA and the cryptos are alike in that regard, right . . . ?

You might take note that at the beginning of 2017, BTC was around $1000. Today it is around $6ooo. What a crash! It’s all hopeless!

Two if by sea. Three,if from within thee
Two if by sea. Three,if from within thee
September 9, 2018 10:53 pm

What’s it matter if Tesla goes belly up?
Musk knew it was all a gimmick and rode it out like so many tax payer funded scams before him.
What’s most important is to ask why he got funding in the first place