Submitted by Hardscrabble Farmer
Great minds and all that jazz…
I found Owen Benjamin’s light-hearted neutering of NASA and it’s meat puppets to be more than mildly entertaining. You don’t need to offer a scintilla of proof, just allow NASA to dig their own grave with their own people and point it out as they go on.
Shocked, I am, that a government agency would falsify data to keep budgets flowing.
Yoeman’s work in this series of articles detailing the manipulation of data over the years by NASA / NOAA!
Some of the videos are a few minutes as necessary for the documentation.
https://realclimatescience.com/
I’m not the first to post this at TBP – in fact I think I learned about it here. But the single best piece I’ve ever seen debunking the moon landings is at http://centerforaninformedamerica.com/moondoggie/. I don’t see how anyone could read that and still believe we went.
I don’t see how anyone could read that.
Is it the length or the big words?
Iska, that’s the problem; you didn’t read it.
I agree. Some compelling information and argument there.
Odin beseeches…
Don’t do it RiNS.
Did Columbus really even go to America?
Certainly not until many, many others had made it first (though likely NOT in the same region of the continent).
No, he didn’t. We first went to the Caribbean Islands, Cuba, Hispaniola and Haiti. In later voyages to the Lesser Antilles, Trinidad, South America and Central America. But he never actually made it to America.
When I was in elementary school, I was taught Columbus discovered America. I kept trying to find out where Columbus landed. Come to find out, he never made it here.
Of course the US did not go to the moon. Any open minded person who has seriously examined the evidence with a rational mind knows this to be true. And this is not the only big lie. In fact, the US and the entire western world is built on lies as far as the eye can see. And to sustain this satanic system of endemic lies, Americans and people in high positions throughout the western world have traded economic security for morality and truth…and are suffering from the consequences and damage to their souls. America and the entire western world is morally and spiritually sick which is why Christian Western Civilization is collapsing.
Exactly! and somethin’ aboot collapse.
Wait. I thought Buzz Aldrin came back with proof.
He had a Polaroid of a deceased woman lying in the dust on our lunar orb.
ID’d as Alice Kramden, by Jackie Gleason.
Millennials, never mind.
Nothing to see or get here in this comment.
It’s for the Boomers w a sense of humor.
Been thru 20 minutes of video. Very compelling. Amazing!
And thank goodness he beleafs da earf is round not flat.
Keeping trying don’t say it…
That’s not the only video of them lying about going to the moon. Do research on the International Space station . You will quickly see there is no Space station in Outer space . Maybe low Earth orbit . Same within satellites and everything else about NASA. It’s all lies. I realize this when I started looking into the Firmament in Genesis 1 : 6 and 1: 14 and about a hundred other scriptures . NASA was started by Nazis and his been since day one run by the Freemasons .Google ‘Operation Pape clip” . 1500 Nazis were Brought over at the end of world war 2 . Then Google ” Thor smashing the Firmament” From 1958 to 1961 the USA sent up over thirty nuclear weapons trying to break through. All that testing in the Pacific was a result of them finding the end of the Firmament . Then when they discovered that the God of the Bible is real they quickly put together a treaty that banned travel to the Antarctica except for the militaries . Now that has expanded to about every nation on the planet. Look at those astronauts when they in the space station. You can see video after video of them faking being in Space. It’s all just a Google away .
Amazing! You go girl!
Peach to us oh wise one..
get the book if you must
Sing trucker boy!
Yes, we know it’s nothing new
It’s just a waste of time
We have no need for ancient ways
The world is doing fine
Another toy will help destroy
The elder race of man
Forget about your silly whim
It doesn’t fit the plan
then there are sum explosions
and the meek shall inherit da earf
or somethin’ like that..
then a long instrumental
then Iska’s favourite singer
starts singing again.
The whole thing is fucken’ amazing…
All planets of the solar federation…we have assumed control…we have assumed control….
Isn’t it still 2018?
If after reading MoonDoggie and you still believe we went to the moon; I just don’t know what to say other than there is truly no hope for this planet.
More importantly, they pulled off a moon landing. Hundreds, no thousands of engineers, press, etc. were all deceived. What else are lies? People always say “too many people are involved to ever keep it a secret”. No, it’s just compartmentalized and only a very small few know the truth and the whole operation.
If they can pul off a moon landing, 9/11 and Sandy Hoax are easy.
Benjamin certainly has a monster pair of boys. The sodomite thing Vs gay was hilarious and irrefutable, given honest language.
I don’t much care about this controversy or any of the others. After coming to peace with the JFK hit I determined that if they were capable of that-butchering a man in full view and even on film and getting away with it means they are capable of anything. There is no deed to heinous or destructive they won’t do if it furthers their aims and can hide behind the flimsiest plausible denial. RFK, MLK, the moon, 9-11, sure. All possible and even likely.
Speaking of the stupidity of the Merican public fox news today cited a poll that 45% of us believe the Ruskies actually changed vote totals. For this we must consult Father Carlin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rh6qqsmxNs
You really have it in for Iska don’t you?
Great song pick, RiNS.
Gee,
I guess my Dad, who worked on the Apollo program, including the moon shot, was a fucking liar. So were the
father´s – most of them WWII vets – of every other kid in my school. Every last one of them worked at the Cape. An amazing conspiracy. Don´t believe this nonsense.
Southern ,no one is calling your DAD a liar . It was all comparmentalized . Just like the CIA . Did you know what your bosses were doing or anyone else in the Organization ? My Grandparents, Mom and Dad were fooled just as well. I remember watching it with them. You’re are smart guy .Do the research.
No, he’s saying people were fooled and taken advantage of.
Exactly, B.B.
Plus 100…
But if it’s couched in terms that this is a project of utmost importance to National Security (which is what people were led to believe at the time)? WWII vets? All the better!
Plenty of people work on top-secret stuff and none the wiser. As someone wrote above, it’s mostly all lies.
Lies and “optics”.
Mobile bio-weapons labs?
“They threw the babies out of the incubators..”?
Many, many more people mobilized around these fictions than around any moon landing. Plus, there’s certainly plenty of “valuable” (depends on your value system) science&tech stuff to be investigated just with the rockets and earth orbit, mostly in the war realm, I’d imagine.
Tinker Bell I’m not saying that either because that would mean 90 % of the population was stupid.I am saying it was all based on lies and deception. Still is .
yeah you are..
SS, read the book “Dark Moon”. Look up the Kubrick movie “The Shining” and the moon landing hoax.
https://theunredacted.com/kubrick-apollo-conspiracy-under-a-shining-moon/
Your dad, i’m sure a great man, was fooled by the compartmentalization.
Southern…take look at 9/11. The evidence that the Twin Towers and Building 7 were taken down by a controlled demolition is overwhelming…yet most people in the US and the western world believe the government narrative of 19 Muslims from the Middle East with box cutters. It is amazing what one can accomplish if you control the government, institutions such as Homeland Security, NORAD and NIST, the criminals’ “justice” system and the propaganda MSM. All you need is to be evil and there is no shortage of that attribute unfortunately. Another example is the AGW theory of global warming which again, despite the overwhelming evidence against this theory, is believed by most people in the western world. The scary aspects to me as someone who has researched climate change over 35 years is that most people don’t want to know the truth, they have become almost impenetrable…and I am talking about highly educated judges, lawyers, doctors and even scientists in Earth Science. The only explanation I have is that they all suffer from the Stockholm Syndrome.
It has long been obvious that many things about the Moon mission were lies or generally fishy.It’s clear that Kubrick made the video in advance, for example…And the fact that the astronauts looked depressed….
I really enjoyed that video, Hardscrabble. I subscribed to him.
And he’s correct. We did not go to the moon.
Sadly I watched this video to try and keep an open mind. However, after losing 60+ minutes of my life I see that it is a just a long rant, conjecture, opinions, lacking in context, taking things out of context, “important” sounding people/voice-overs offering their “theories”. Where’s the hard science? Where’s the concrete, irrefutable evidence? Start producing serious, peer reviewable science to prove your case or you have nothing worth considering.
When you have NASA engineers and scientists talking about this, is that not enough to convince you something isn’t right? I suggest you go back and research this and write an essay on why everything presented in the above video is wrong, from a scientific basis, of course. I’m sure that will convince all of skeptics and non believers.
It is not for me to disprove those who propose a theory. It is for those who propose a theory to provide the irrefutable evidence in the form of science, math, and hard, repeatable, testable data. And have it all peer reviewed by multiple acknowledged experts in their respective fields. 95% of this video is this guy talking, expressing his thoughts and opinions. That is not science.
“Faking the landing of the American astronauts to the Moon would have been more complex and expensive than actually doing it,”
“There is nothing to argue about Americans landing on the moon between 1969 and 1972,” Kostitsyn stressed. “You won’t hear a single cosmonaut say they didn’t.”
Quotes from Novosti Yury Kostitsyn, Head of The Institute of Analytical Chemistry, directly involved in developing sensors for space and was part of the Soviet robotic study of the moon.
Why would a Russian scientist support the American moon landing claims? Where are all the Russian scientists with their proof of the fake landing? Surely they would be the most avid moon landing deniers to embarrass the US?
Stephen Curry? What are his credentials? Is he an authority on space science? I cannot find this info on the web.
You won’t anon cuz Mr. Curry IS FUCKEN AMAZING!
Come on people that shoud be enuf and why can’t we all just be friends.. except for fleabaggs…
he’s a real smartie!
Are you being WiseAss from Nova Scotia now?
Are you accusing me of just starting to be a wise ass. Geeze its hard getting respect when you’re not FUCKEN AMAZING like that Curry dude..
I finished listening to the yootube bit and all I can say is Bravo… Bravoissimmo!
All this and still no respect.
Its hard being green..
Yours by the Grace of Odin,
WAfNS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS1okqbnePQ
RiNSe- We never went to the moon, get over it.
And Herr Curry is still FUCKEN AWESOME!
Ima open to the possibility of faked moon shots but….
I cannot see the optics allowing such subterfuge despite the risk of syrupy derision. I, like SS, cannot believe thousands of engineers and military men and women could be isolated from the nuts and bolts of pulling it off.
OTOH there is 9 11.
I found this video from a company specializing in digital creation to give some credence and grace to refutation of much of the narrative about the purported faked photographic images, through digital graphic evidence and explanations.
“Nvidia Debunks Conspiracy Theories About Moon Landing”
I will check this out, too.
I watched it and agree the two images discussed might be explained by the reflective light phenom. And, I’m betting that one by one my other concerns could also be explained away. Maybe my son is correct… maybe my head has gotten overloaded with MoonMadness.
I don’t think so. I am still highly suspicious of the moon landings. But, I appreciate your input.
Me.
Did you see all the dust, all over the vehicle. No, nor did I. When it descended the thrusters kicked up a huge cloud of dust that would have covered the lander and the cup shaped landing pads would be filled with dust and the thruster would blow a deep hole directly beneath the lander. That baby is shiny polished, without a speck of dust on it. Now, how is that possible unless it took a quick trip to the drive through lunar lander wash. The wash BTW, is only $2.95 with a fill-up.
Shouldn’t the essential question be “why”? Why go to such lengths to cause people to believe man went to the moon?
I have never really understood why people are always concerned with a motive. But hey. What do you think the budget for the Space Race/ Cold War was?
Trillions?
People have done a lot worse for a lot less.
Speaking for myself, understanding motive increases problem solving potential.
As for the trillions, it is mind boggling to consider where and to what use that money has been put.
I was listening/watching and my son and husband got nosy and asked why I was “wasting my time” with it. I got annoyed and explained that there are many reasons to suspect our ability to get a rocket ship out of earth orbit NOW, much less then. My husband, five years older than I, remembers the fixation the country had with the original moon landing. I barely remember it, since I was about 6 years old at the time and more interested in other things. We might not even have had a television then… there were times either we couldn’t afford to have the tube fixed or my father just plain wouldn’t allow it on. (The television coverage of the Vietnam conflict and cultural changes which ensued from the anti-war movement caused my father to remove the television from the house at one point.)
But, looking at the information presented on the Moondoggie site is compelling. I took several photography courses in college, as part of my journalism degree which is kind of like a basket-weaving degree but I did learn how to write right. I grasp just how difficult the man on the moon photos would have been to capture on film in a camera strapped to one’s chest, without use of viewfinder or even mirror. I can see that there is secondary lighting of some kind in more than one photo. I can see that some of the images with the mountains/hills in the background USE the same background but different foregrounds have been doctored in. NOT photoshopped, but literally cut and pasted into the image using either darkroom splicing techniques OR, I’m betting, clip art technique. This is probable on at least some of the photos, because some are really sloppy. Most are very well composed and blended.
Well, I explained a bit about the images to my husband, who suggested NASA faked the images ahead of time in order to have them for distribution to prove we went to the moon… and I said “Why the hell would they fake them in advance?”
His answer? “Why would they fake the launch of that giant rocket in Florida and pretend the astronauts went to the moon?”
My son suggested my head was going to explode from reading that sort of conspiracy crap. I am glad to have the brat here one more Christmas but am equally glad he moves to his new software engineering job in early 2019. He did not leave my home a Millennial, but college turned him into one.
So, I’m pretty much in agreement that the initial moon landing, at least, if not all of the Apollo missions, was pure theater. But, I still don’t get why Russia, China, et.al. would not tell the world NASA was lying. They hadda know.
I am curious on how you interpret the Nvidia viddy.
Where’s the dust? The lander is shiny, squeaky clean. Where’s the blast hole from the thrusters under the lander? Why are the cup shaped lander pads not filled with dust?……The Nvidia video was malarkey.
It was a pretty good explanation of the light scattering quality of moon dust. I’d not seen the idea that the reflective nature of the suits themselves made Neil Armstrong glare like a light.
I think it explained those two photos and, given time, could probably explain more. But, I’m still wondering about some of the lost technology and other crazy things about the whole story.
I can’t seem to stop watching these.
By the way, Whosie Suze… my son got all four of his wisdom teeth out at a walk-in dental surgery clinic in Springfield one day in late November. I didn’t even know there was such a thing, but he accepted a job for early January start date and said he was getting rid of the damned wisdom teeth for once and for all.
And, I guess they all came out in one piece, unlike mine. But that was longagofaraway.
Did you know there were such walk-in dental clinics?
https://theunredacted.com/kubrick-apollo-conspiracy-under-a-shining-moon/
Yeah, I worked in walk in dental surgery clinics for 32 years. DDS Doctor of Dental Surgery- As a freshman at Emory the student body elected to use DDS on our degrees instead of the newly fashionable label of DMD. Doctor of Medicine in Dentistry. Same difference
Usually they called first before walking in. In the military it was called dental sick call. Wisdom teeth were usually easy money. And the ones that were not, were referred. Unerupted (complete impaction) ones can and do lead to serious complications. Partially erupted ones are certain to cause trouble.
As a freshman in DS I had my third molars removed by a hometown Oral Surgeon. They have much more surgical training. Mine were totally impacted with absolutely no room to erupt. Cystic, possibly malignant, formation around such teeth is common later in life. PLUS total impacted third molars create a weakness in the ramus of the mandible. One of my sons was sucker punched by a drunk and because of his unerupted wisdom teeth, his mandible was fractured.
I was IV sedated – wheeee And given a Rx for 12 – #3 codeine pills. Of which I took two. The next day I was taking my brother’s gf and her female friend to Tallahassee – a 200 miles trip – pre I-10. I had to stop half way and buy more 2×2 gauzes to help stem the flow of blood from the wet sockets. AND that continued while I made the moves on the unattached female later that night. It ruined my chances of scoring.
As surprised as I was (and worried) my son has recovered well… like you, he took very few of the pain pills.
Mine came out military dental style… in one visit to the oral surgeon at the Air Force dental clinic after recommendation by a dentist.
I guess I never needed a walk-in dental clinic, so I never knew they existed.
i live just north of tampa intl airport,and in between the 2 runways–
all day long from @6am to after 10pm there is a continuous staggered line of passenger jets either taking off or landing–
many,many x i have thought to myself while watching one of those huge planes take off,”if we can get one of those to stay in the air & fly across the ocean,why can’t we go to the moon?”
i’ve never doubted the moon landing & until i began hanging out on this site i’d never heard what i considered an intelligent person even question it–
we landed. these naysayers are just gone stir crazy. https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2004/21jul_llr
anon,
that was an interesting link–
the apache point observatory mentioned in the article,wasn’t that the place raided by the fbi a few months ago?
That is so cool.
We never went to the Moon.
And Odin is your Lord and Master..
how’s that ankle?
the man in the moon no likee you denying that we visited him,that’s why he knocked you out of the tree–
Doesn’t prove anything. Just that there is a reflector on moon..
ok. https://moon.nasa.gov/exploration/moon-missions/
look. there’s been MANY excursions to the moon. over half of which aren’t even by NASA
y’all are retarded if ya think this is some worldwide hoax.
Your link sure looks legit and intelligent. Thanks for posting. Here is fictitious fake news from the beast. not
Being retarded doesn’t prove anything either….
Now, the question you need to ask yourself is WHY would they put together this very convincing link with no real evidence.
Hahaha… couldn’t resist.
I’ll be quite honest and admit I’m not convinced either way. I am also not sure it is worth any more viewing time.
The sun is out.
Exactly the sun is out. There are better things to fret about.