Collapse Is Already Here

Authored by Chris Martenson via PeakProsperity.com,

It’s a process, not an event…

Many people are expecting some degree of approaching collapse — be it economic, environmental and/or societal — thinking that they’ll recognize the danger signs in time.

As if it will be completely obvious, like a Hollywood blockbuster. Complete with clear warnings from scientists, politicians and the media.  And everyone can then get busy either panicking or becoming the plucky heroes.

That’s not how collapse works.

Collapse is a process, not an event.

And it’s already underway, all around us.

Collapse is already here.

However, unlike Hollywood’s vision, the early stages of collapse cause people to cling even tighter to the status quo. Instead of panic in the streets, we simply see more of the same — as those in power do all they can to remain so, while the majority of the public attempts to ignore the growing problems for as long as it possibly can.

For both the elite and the majority, their entire world view and their personal sense of self depends on things not crumbling all around them, so they remain willfully blind to any evidence to the contrary.

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But most of the majority won’t get started until it’s entirely too late to make any difference at all. Which is sad but perhaps unavoidable, given human nature.

If everybody around you is saying “Everything is awesome!”, it can take a long time to determine for yourself that things in fact aren’t:

Real collapse happens slowly, and often without any sort of acknowledgement by the so-called political and economic elites until its abrupt terminal end.

The degree of rot within the Soviet Union went undetected until its final implosion, catching pretty much everyone in the West (as well as in the former USSR!) by surprise.

Similarly, one day people woke up and passenger pigeons were extinct.  They used to literally darken the skies for hours as they migrated past, numbering in the billions. Nobody planned on their demise and virtually nobody saw it coming.  Sure, just as there always are, a few crackpots at the fringes noticed, but they were ignored until it was too late.

Our view is that collapse of our current way of life is happening right now. The signs are all around us.  Our invitation is for you to notice them and inquire critically what the ramifications will be — irrespective of whatever pablum our leaders and media are currently spewing.

While the monetary and financial elites strain to crank out one more day/week/month/year of “market stability”, the ecosystems we depend on for life are vanishing. It’s as if the Rapture were happening, but it’s the insects, plants and animals ascending to heaven instead of we humans.

Committing Ecocide

Be very skeptical when the cause of each new ecological nightmare is ascribed to “natural causes.”

While it’s entire possible for any one ecological mishap to be due to a natural cycle, it’s weak thinking to assign the same cause to dozens of troubling findings happening all over the globe.

As they say in the military: Once is an accident. Twice is a coincidence. But three times is enemy action.

Right now, Australia is in the middle of the summer season and being absolutely hammered by high heat.  Sure it gets hot during an Australian summer, but not like this. The impact has been devastating:

Australia’s Facing an Unprecedented Ecological Crisis, But No One’s Paying Attention

Jan 9, 2019

It started in December, just before Christmas.

Hundreds of dead perch were discovered floating along the banks of the Darling River – victims of a “dirty, rotten green” algae bloom spreading in the still waters of the small country town of Menindee, Australia.

Things didn’t get better. The dead hundreds became dead thousands, as the crisis expanded to claim the lives of 10,000 fish along a 40-kilometre (25-mile) stretch of the river. But the worst was still yet to come.

This week, the environmental disaster has exploded to a horrific new level – what one Twitter user called “Extinction level water degradation” – with reports suggesting up to a million fish have now been killed in a new instance of the toxic algae bloom conditions.

For their part, authorities in the state of New South Wales have only gone as far as confirming “hundreds of thousands” of fish have died in the event – but regardless of the exact toll, it’s clear the deadly calamity is an unprecedented ecological disaster in the region’s waterways.

“I’ve never seen two fish kills of this scale so close together in terms of time, especially in the same stretch of river,” fisheries manager Iain Ellis from NSW Department of Primary Industries (DPI) explained to ABC News.

The DPI blames ongoing drought conditions for the algae bloom’s devastating impact on local bream, cod, and perch species – with a combination of high temperature and chronic low water supply (along with high nutrient concentrations in the water) making for a toxic algal soup.

(Source)

Watching the video above showing grown men crying over the loss of 100-year-old fish is heartbreaking. This fish kill is described as “unprecedented” and as an “extinction level event”, meaning it left no survivors over a long stretch of waterway.

We can try to console oursleves that maybe this was just a singular event, a cluster of bad juju and worse waterway management that combined to give us this horror — but it wasn’t.

It’s part of a larger tapestry of heat-induced misery that Australia is facing:

How one heatwave killed ‘a third’ of a bat species in Australia

Jan 15, 2019

Over two days in November, record-breaking heat in Australia’s north wiped out almost one-third of the nation’s spectacled flying foxes, according to researchers.

The animals, also known as spectacled fruit bats, were unable to survive in temperatures which exceeded 42C.

“It was totally depressing,” one rescuer, David White, told the BBC.

Flying foxes are no more sensitive to extreme heat than some other species, experts say. But because they often gather in urban areas in large numbers, their deaths can be more conspicuous, and easily documented.

“It raises concerns as to the fate of other creatures who have more secretive, secluded lifestyles,” Dr Welbergen says.

He sees the bats as the “the canary in the coal mine for climate change”.

(Source)

A two-day heatwave last November (2018) was sufficient to kill up to a third of all Australia’s known flying foxes, a vulnerable species that was already endangered.  As those bats are well-studied and their deaths quite conspicuous to observers, it raises the important question: How many other less-scrutinized species are dying off at the same time?

And the death parade continues:

Are these data points severe enough for you to recognize as signs of ongoing collapse?

Last summer was a time of extreme draught and heat for Australia, and this summer looks set to be even worse. This may be the country’s  ‘new normal’ for if the situation is due to climate change instead of just an ordinary (if punishing) hot cycle.

If so, these heat waves will likely intensify over time, completely collapsing the existing biological systems across Australia.

Meanwhile, nearby in New Zealand, similar species loss is underway:

‘Like losing family’: time may be running out for New Zealand’s most sacred tree

July 2018

New Zealand’s oldest and most sacred tree stands 60 metres from death, as a fungal disease known as kauri dieback spreads unabated across the country.

Tāne Mahuta (Lord of the Forest) is a giant kauri tree located in the Waipoua forest in the north of the country, and is sacred to the Māori people, who regard it as a living ancestor.

The tree is believed to be around 2,500 years old, has a girth of 13.77m and is more than 50m tall.

Thousands of locals and tourists alike visit the tree every year to pay their respects, and take selfies beside the trunk.

Now, the survival of what is believed to be New Zealand’s oldest living tree is threatened by kauri dieback, with kauri trees a mere 60m from Tāne Mahuta confirmed to be infected.

Kauri dieback causes most infected trees to die, and is threatening to completely wipe out New Zealand’s most treasured native tree species, prized for its beauty, strength and use in boats, carvings and buildings.

“We don’t have any time to do the usual scientific trials anymore, we just have to start responding immediately in any way possible; it is not ideal but we have kind of run out of time,” Black says, adding that although there is no cure for kauri dieback there is a range of measures which could slow its progress.

(Source)

People are rallying to try and save the kauri trees, although it’s unclear exactly how to stop the spread of the new fungal invader or why it’s so pathogenic all of a sudden.  It could be due to another natural sort of cycle (except the fungus was thought to have been introduced and spread by human activity) or it could be a another collapse indicator we need to finally hear and heed.

It turns out that New Zealand is not alone. Giant trees are dying all over the globe.

2,000-year-old baobab trees in Africa are suddenly and rather mysteriously giving up the ghost.  These trees survived happily for 2,000 years and now all of a sudden they’re dying. Are the deaths of our most ancient trees all across the globe some sort of natural process? Or is there a different culprit we need to recognize?

In Japan they’re lamenting record low squid catches.  Oh well, maybe it’s just overfishing?  Or could it be another message we need to heed?

To all this we can add the numerous scientific articles now decrying the ‘insect Apocalypse’ unfolding across the northern hemisphere. The Guardian recently issued this warning: “Insect collapse: ‘We are destroying our life support systems’”. Researchers in Puerto Rico’s forest preserves recorded a 98% decline in insect mass over 35 years.  Does a 98% decline have a natural explanation? Or is something bigger going on?

Meanwhile, the butterfly die-off is unfolding with alarming speed. I rarely see them in the summer anymore, much to my great regret.  Seeing one is now as exciting as seeing a meteor streak across the sky, and just as rare:

Monarch butterfly numbers plummet 86 percent in California

Jan 7, 2019

CAMARILLO, Calif. – The number of monarch butterflies turning up at California’s overwintering sites has dropped by about 86 percent compared to only a year ago,according to the Xerces Society, which organizes a yearly count of the iconic creatures.

That’s bad news for a species whose numbers have already declined an estimated 97 percent since the 1980s.

Each year, monarchs in the western United States migrate from inland areas to California’s coastline to spend the winter, usually between September and February.

“It’s been the worst year we’ve ever seen,” said Emma Pelton, a conservation biologist with the Xerces Society who helps lead the annual Thanksgiving count. “We already know we’re dealing with a really small population, and now we have a really bad year and all of a sudden, we’re kind of in crisis mode where we have very, very few butterflies left.”

What’s causing the dramatic drop-off is somewhat of a mystery. Experts believe the decline is spurred by a confluence of unfortunate factors, including late rainy-season storms across California last March, the effects of the state’s years long drought and the seemingly relentless onslaught of wildfires that have burned acres upon acres of habitat and at times choked the air with toxic smoke.

(Source)

Note the “explanation” given blames the decline on mostly natural processes: late storms, droughts and wildfires. I believe that’s because the article appears in a US paper, so no mention was permitted of neonicotinoid pesticides or glyphosate. Both of these are highly effective decimators of insect life — but they’re highly profitable for Big Ag, so for now, any criticism is not allowed.

Sure a 97% decline since the 1980’s might be due to fires, droughts and rains. But that’s really not very likely.  There have always been fires, droughts and rains.  Something else has shifted since the 1980’s. And that “thing” is human activity, which has increased its willingness to destroy habitat and spray poisons everywhere in pursuit of cheaper food and easier profits.

The loss of insects, which we observe in the loss of the beautiful and iconic Monarch butterfly, is a gigantic warning flag that we desperately need to heed.  If the bottom of our billion-year-old food web disintegrates, you can be certain that the repercussions to humans will be dramatic and terribly difficult to ‘fix.’  In scientific terms, it will be called a “bottom-up trophic cascade”.

In a trophic cascade, the loss of a single layer of the food pyramid crumbles the entire structure.  Carefully-tuned food webs a billion years in the making are suddenly destabilized.  Life cannot adapt quickly enough, and so entire species are quickly lost.  Once enough species die off, the web cannot be rewoven, and life … simply ends.

What exactly would a “trophic cascade” look like in real life?  Oh, perhaps something just like this:

Deadly deficiency at the heart of an environmental mystery

Oct 16, 2018

During spring and summer, busy colonies of a duck called the common eider (Somateria mollissima) and other wild birds are usually seen breeding on the rocky coasts around the Baltic Sea. Thousands of eager new parents vie for the best spots to build nests and catch food for their demanding young broods.

But Lennart Balk, an environmental biochemist at Stockholm University, witnessed a dramatically different scene when he visited Swedish coastal colonies during a 5-year period starting in 2004. Many birds couldn’t fly. Others were completely paralyzed. Birds also weren’t eating and had difficulty breathing. Thousands of birds were suffering and dying from this paralytic disease, says Balk. “We went into the bird colonies, and we were shocked. You could see something was really wrong. It was a scary situation for this time of year,” he says.

Based on his past work documenting a similar crisis in several Baltic Sea fish species, Balk suspected that the birds’ disease was caused by a thiamine (vitamin B1) deficiency. Thiamine is required for critical metabolic processes, such as energy production and proper functioning of the nervous system.

This essential micronutrient is produced mainly by plants, including phytoplankton, bacteria, and fungi; people and animals must acquire it through their food.

“We found that thiamine deficiency is much more widespread and severe than previously thought,” Balk says. Given its scope, he suggests that a pervasive thiamine deficiency could be at least partly responsible for global wildlife population declines. Over a 60-year period up to 2010, for example, worldwide seabird populations declined by approximately 70%, and globally, species are being lost 1,000 times faster than the natural rate of extinction (9, 10). “He has seen a thiamine deficiency in several differ phyla now,” says Fitzsimons of Balk. “One wonders what is going on. It’s a larger issue than we first suspected.”

(Source)

This is beyond disturbing. It should have been on the front pages of every newspaper and TV show across the globe.  We should be discussing it in urgent, worried tones and devoting a huge amount of money to studying and fixing it.  At a minimum, we should stop hauling more tiny fish and krill from the sea in an effort to at least stabilize the food pyramid while we sort things out.

If you recall, we’ve also recently reported on the findings showing that phytoplankton levels are down 50% (these are a prime source for thiamine, by the way). Again, here’s a possible “trophic cascade” in progress:

(Source)

Fewer phytoplankton means less thiamine being produced. That means less thiamine is available to pass up the food chain. Next thing you know, there’s a 70% decline in seabird populations.

This is something I’ve noticed directly and commented n during my annual pilgrimages to the northern Maine coast over the past 30 years, where seagulls used to be extremely common and are now practically gone.  Seagulls!

Next thing you know, some other major food chain will be wiped out and we’ll get oceans full of jellyfish instead of actual fish.  Or perhaps some once-benign mold grows unchecked because the former complex food web holding it in balance has collapsed, suddenyl transforming Big Ag’s “green revolution” into grayish-brown spore-ridden dust.

To add to the terrifying mix of ecological news has been the sudden and rapid loss of amphibian species all over the world.  A possible source for the culprit has been found, if that’s any consolation; though that discovery does not yet identify a solution to this saddening development.

Ground Zero of Amphibian ‘Apocalypse’ Finally Found

May 10, 2018

MANY OF THE world’s amphibians are staring down an existential threat: an ancient skin-eating fungus that can wipe out entire forests’ worth of frogs in a flash.

This ecological super-villain, the chytrid fungus Batrachochytrium dendrobatidis, has driven more than 200 amphibian species to extinction or near-extinction—radically rewiring ecosystems all over Earth.

“This is the worst pathogen in the history of the world, as far as we can tell, in terms of its impacts on biodiversity,” says Mat Fisher, an Imperial College London mycologist who studies the fungus.

Now, a global team of 58 researchers has uncovered the creature’s origin story. A groundbreaking study published in Science on Thursday reveals where and when the fungus most likely emerged: the Korean peninsula, sometime during the 1950s.

From there, scientists theorize that human activities inadvertently spread it far and wide—leading to amphibian die-offs across the Americas, Africa, Europe, and Australia.

(Source)

Frogs, toads and salamanders were absolutely critical parts of my childhood and I delighted in their presence. I cannot imagine a world without them. But effectively, that’s what we’ve got now with so many on the endangered species list.

This parade of awful ecological news is both endless and worsening. And there is no real prospect for us to fix things in time to avoid substantial ecological pain.  None.

After all, we can’t even manage our watersheds properly. And those are dead simple by comparison. Water falls from the sky in (Mostly) predictable volume and you then distribute somewhat less than that total each year.  Linear and simple in comparison to trying to unravel the many factors underlying a specie’s collapse.

But challenges like this are popping up all over the globe:

Fear And Grieving In Las Vegas: Colorado River Managers Struggle With Water Scarcity

Dec 14th, 2018

On stage in a conference room at Las Vegas’s Caesars Palace, Keith Moses said coming to terms with the limits of the Colorado River is like losing a loved one.

“It reminds me of the seven stages of grief,” Moses said. “Because I think we’ve been in denial for a long time.”

Moses is vice chairman of the Colorado River Indian Tribes, a group of four tribes near Parker, Arizona. He was speaking at the annual Colorado River Water Users Association meeting.

The denial turned to pain and guilt as it became clear just how big the supply and demand gaps were on the river that delivers water to 40 million people in the southwest.

For the last six months Arizona’s water leaders have been experiencing the third stage of grief: anger and bargaining.

Of the seven U.S. states that rely on the Colorado River, Arizona has had the hardest time figuring out how to rein in water use and avoid seeing the river’s largest reservoirs — Lakes Mead and Powell — drop to extremely low levels.

Kathryn Sorenson, director of Phoenix’s water utility, characterized the process this way: “Interesting. Complicated. Some might say difficult.”

One of the loudest voices in the debate has been coming from a small group of farmers in rural Pinal County, Arizona, south of Phoenix.

Under the current rules those farmers could see their Colorado River supplies zeroed out within two years.

The county’s biggest grower of cotton and alfalfa, Brian Rhodes, is trying to make sure that doesn’t happen. The soil in his fields is powder-like, bursting into tiny brown clouds with each step.

“We’re going to have to take large cuts,” Rhodes said. “We all understand that.”

(Source)

Oh my goodness. If we’re having trouble realizing that wasting precious water from the Colorado River to grow cotton is a bad idea, then there’s just no hope at all that we’ll successfully rally to address the loss of ocean phytoplankton.

That’s about the easiest connection of dots that could ever be made.  As Sam Kinison, the 1980’s comedian might have yelled – IT’S A DESERT!! YOU’RE TRYING TO GROW WATER-INTENSIVE CROPS IN THE FREAKING DESERT!  CAN’T YOU SEE ALL THE SAND AROUND YOU?!? THAT MEANS “DON’T GROW COTTON HERE!!”

A World On The Brink

The bottom line is this: We are destroying the natural world. And that means that we are destroying ourselves. 

I know that the mainstream news has relegated this conversation to the back pages (when they covered it at all) and so it’s not “front and center” for most people.  But it should be.

Everything we hold dear is a subset of the ecosphere. If that goes, so does everything else. Nothing else matters in the slightest if we actively destroy the Earth’s carrying capacity.

At the same time, we’re in the grips of an extremely dangerous delusion that has placed money, finance and the economy at the top spot on our temple of daily worship.

Any idea of slowing down or stopping economic growth is “bad for business” and dismissed out of hand as “not practical”, “undesirable” or “unwise”.  It’s always a bad time to discuss the end of economic growth, apparently.

But as today’s young people are increasingly discovering, if conducting business” is just a lame rationale for failed stewardship of our lands and oceans, then it’s a broken idea. One not worth preserving in its current form.

The parade of terrible ecological breakdowns provided above is there for all willing to see it. Are you willing?  Each failing ecosystem is screaming at us in urgent, strident tones that we’ve gone too far in our quest for “more”.

We might be able to explain away each failure individually. But taken as a whole?  The pattern is clear: We’ve got enemy action at work.  These are not random coincidences.

Nature is warning us loudly that it’s past time to change our ways.  That our “endless growth” model is no longer valid. In fact, it’s now becoming an existential threat

The collapse is underway. It’s just not being televised (yet).

Davos As Destiny

And don’t expect the cavalry to arrive.

Our leadership is absolutely not up to the task. If the Davos conference currently underway in Switzerland is a sign of anything at all, it’s that we’re doomed.

The world has been taken over by bankers and financiers too smitten by their love of money to notice much else or be of any practical service to the world.

By way of illustrative example, here’s the big techno-feel-good idea unveiled on the second day of the conference.  The crowds there loved it:

Yes, folks, this is what the world most desperately needs at this time! /sarc

While I’m sure drone-delivered books is a heartwarming story, it’s completely diversionary and utterly meaningless in the face of collapsing oceanic and terrestrial food webs.

Sadly, this is exactly the sort of inane distraction most admired by the Davos set in large part because it helps them feel a tiny bit better about their ill-gotten wealth. “Look!  We’re supporting good thngs!”  The ugly truth is that big wealth’s main pursuit is to distort political processes and rules to assure they get to keep it and even amass more.

Drones carrying books to Indonesian children provides the same sort of dopamine rush to a Davos attendee as Facebook ‘like’ gives to a 14-year-old. Temporary, cheap, superficial and ultimately meaningless.

The same is true of their other feel-good theme of the day. “Scientists” have discovered an enzyme that eats plastics:

That’s swell, but you know what would be even better?  Not using the bottles in the first place. Which could be accomplished by providing access to safe, potable water as a basic human right and using re-usable containers.  Of course, that would offer less chances for private wealth accumulation so instead the Davos crowd is fixated on the profitable solution vs. doing the right thing.

In viritually every instance, the Davos crowd wants to preserve industry and our consumer culture as it is, using technology and gimmicks in attempt to remedy the ills that result.  There’s money to be made on both ends of that story.

The only thing that approach lacks is a future. Because it’s not-so-subtly based on continued “growth”. Infinite exponential growth. The exact same growth that is killing ancient trees, sea birds, insects, amphibians, and phytoplankton.

Who wants more of that? Insane people.

In other words, don’t hold out any hope that the Davos set representing the so-called “elite” from every prominent nation on earth are going to somehow bravely offer up real insights on our massive predicaments and solutions to our looming problems. They’re too consumed with their own egos and busy preening for prominence to notice the danger or care.

As they pointlessly fritter away another expensive gathering, the ecological world is unraveling all around them. The oceans are becoming a barren wasteland.  The ancient trees are dying.  Heatwaves are melting tar and killing life.  The web of life is snapping strand by strand and nobody can predict what happens next.

In other words, if you held out any hope that “they” would somehow rally to the cause you’d best set that completely aside. It’s no wonder social anger against tone-deaf and plundering elites is breaking out right now.

From here, there are only two likely paths:

(1) We humans simply cannot self-organize to address these plights and carry on until the bitter end, when something catastrophic happens that collapses our natural support systems.

(2) We see the light, gather our courage, and do what needs to be done.  Consumption is widely and steeply curtailed, fossil fuel use is severely restrained, and living standards as measured by the amount of stuff flowing through our daily lives are dropped to sustainable levels.

Either path means enormous changes are coming, probably for you and definitely for your children and grandchildren. 

In Part 2: Facing Reality we dive into what developments to expect as our systems continue further along their trophic cascade. Which markers and milestones should we monitor most closely to know when the next breaking point is upon us? 

To reiterate: Massive change is now inevitable and in progress.

Collapse has already begun.

Click here to read Part 2 of this report (free executive summary, enrollment required for full access).

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BL wondering WTF?
BL wondering WTF?
January 26, 2019 12:25 pm

Hope Loopey’s A/C is working well in OZ. This was more of a global warming article than expected.

Ever notice there is never a GW issue around the beaches, ski resorts or high end living areas of the global elite? Why is that? Not one completely eroded/flooded beach due to melting ice caps where the jet set Hoi Polluted hang out. Their lobster tails and champagne is always ready for their dining pleasure. Doom porn never seems to touch their world, now does it?

Llpoh
Llpoh
  BL wondering WTF?
January 26, 2019 3:25 pm

Australia is a bron land. It is by far the driest continent. We got hit by a couple of heatwaves of about a week. But nothing earth-shattering for around here. The issue is we had a dry winter. That is the root of the issues he discusses. That happens. It comes. It goes. It comes. It goes.

Bob McDoanld
Bob McDoanld
January 26, 2019 12:29 pm

Collapse began 10 years ago under the Obama administration. It was a very deliberate plan to undermine our country and culture with the placement of hundreds of operatives that would run the government in lieu of any elected president, “a true deep state”. We could not have elected a more head strong president than Trump. Whether you like him or hate him everyone should be scared to death at what is going on. Trump is fighting an internal coup. We have an unelected government that is determined to take him down. Watching the way the Muller investigation has functioned so far is pretty much a disgrace. Irrespective of the number of indictments, he has not produced much. Fostering an investigation falsely set up with the single purpose of destroying a president is Treasonous. Subjecting anyone to the level of scrutiny the entire US Government has placed on these people is mind boggling. Am I supporting some of the crap that has turned up, NO! But think about this, if this is the new norm, there is unlikely a single person or their circle of influence that will ever survive a presidency. And, why is it that it is only a one sided affair? If you are moving to this level of investigation and review for indictments, where is Hillary, Lynch, Holder, Comey, and the rest of the criminal network. We are currently one step away from becoming Venezuela. For all the Trump haters who support this lunacy, remember a precedent is being set, a dangerous one. We have moved away from a Democratic Republic to a Fascist State under a Republican President being driven by an embedded Democratic Deep State. It is difficult to gauge who is the greater evil here. While no fan of Trump, my analogy for what is going on is a Doctor killing his patient to cure his cancer. The actions are in fact worse than the problem. Goodby America, it was nice knowing you the past 62 years. Welcome Fascist State, brought to you by the folks obsessed with Russian influence. A Black Comedy if ever there was one.

22winmag - The South was Right!
22winmag - The South was Right!
  Bob McDoanld
January 26, 2019 1:47 pm

Stopped reading at your first sentence because this ENGINEERED COLLAPSE was over 40 years ago:

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Rob157
Rob157
  22winmag - The South was Right!
January 26, 2019 4:50 pm

40 years ago?
Ummm… No. More like over a century ago.
It has been hard to see, to fathom, but it was set into motion around 1913.
Thank Woodrow Wilson for signing over America’s fate, to those who want Western Civilization dead.

No one
No one
  Rob157
January 27, 2019 8:12 am

And Bingo was his Name-O. Does anyone know the origin of Bingo?

Thunderbird
Thunderbird
  Bob McDoanld
January 27, 2019 5:48 pm

Something odd and out of the blue is happening in France. It is the Yellow Vests. I think this monkey wrench is coming to america. The pendulum always swings both ways.

unit472
unit472
January 26, 2019 1:16 pm

Clearly what the world needs more than a new pesticide or a cure for malaria ( which destroys mankinds greatest pest the negro) is an enzyme that would allow low income people to dine on wood and grass. It would, e.g., eliminate the need for SNAP/Food Stamps in the US. A person claiming to be too poor to buy food could be given a supply of this enzyme and told to go mow a lawn or prune some bushes and not only make some money doing so but be able to feed his family with the freshly harvested grass and clippings from the shrubbery!

The risk of wildfires in California and elsewhere could be reduced if illegal aliens and the homeless were relocated and told to devour the dead wood in California’s forest floors or eat the vegetation on Southern California’s canyons and hillsides. A further bonus would be since these people would no longer require traditional ‘food’ the land, fuel and water requirements for traditional agriculture would be reduced!

KaD
KaD
  unit472
January 26, 2019 4:43 pm

There’s a science fiction book about exactly this, I can’t remember the title though. In the end the turd worlders just ate their way through the wood and fibrous plants until nothing was left and were back in the same semi-starvation predicament.

Stucky
Stucky
January 26, 2019 1:40 pm

“Real collapse happens slowly, ”

Sure. Cuz I see that constantly in everyday life.

They blew up the old Tappan Zee bridge last week — it took 6 hours to fall down. Same with the Twin Towers — once that first floor started to pancake it took several hours for the rest of the floors to collapse (into their own footprint). One day my dad is sitting in a wheelchair and then his head just slumped over unto his chest when his heart collapsed …. took him another day and a half to really die.

22winmag - The South was Right!
22winmag - The South was Right!
  Stucky
January 26, 2019 1:51 pm

Sorry about dad.

I’m calling your punk card.

Refute trinity.pdf or tesla.pdf or titanic.pdf or shut your hole.

Signed,
Pruitt Igoe

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Stucky
Stucky
  22winmag - The South was Right!
January 26, 2019 1:55 pm

I already refuted them in the other thread.

Stop following me around and trying to suck me into your vortex of bizarre thinking that destroys brain cells. If I want to fuck up my brain I’ll drink a bottle of cheap Tequila.

No one
No one
  Stucky
January 27, 2019 8:19 am

I picked up some interesting Tequila at the AF base on clearance. Best Tequila I ever had. I got the Cinnamon flavor too. Bought them out. Two or three cases for a few dollars a bottle. The manager said they were not selling it anymore. I don’t buy hard liquor often, so am not sure they still exist.

Anyone heard of Peregrino? I only saw it at the BX a few years ago.

22winmag - Trump is a psyop and Q is lead actor
22winmag - Trump is a psyop and Q is lead actor
January 26, 2019 1:46 pm

Or just give niggers a bunch of brand new public housing buildings and wait about 15 years…

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… until demolition is the only remaining option.

Stucky
Stucky
January 26, 2019 1:50 pm

“Collapse is a process, not an event.”

This is not profound. Of course, it’s a process … wtf else would it be?

Everyone alive will suffer the collapse of death. Let’s say someone dies of cancer. When did the process of dying begin? When the person was first diagnosed? When it went into Stage 4? Or did the process of dying begin the very moment he was born?

So, it seems really difficult to say when the collapse process starts, no one ever knows how long the collapse process will last or when it’s officially over …. not to mention that sometimes there CAN be recovery before the collapse!

Other than that, saying America is in the process of collapse is really very helpful.

No one
No one
  Stucky
January 27, 2019 8:32 am

“no one ever knows how long the collapse process will last or when it’s officially over”

I assume you meant to type “even” and all I can say for sure is that I heard it would take three and a half years or so to collapse to the point any real help is coming our way. Of course, that only helps anyone if “no one” ever had a clue when the first day of the three and a half years was scheduled.

I don’t know that.

anarchyst
anarchyst
January 26, 2019 2:07 pm

All of the earth’s ecosystems go through cycles, of ebb and flow. a good example of this is Lake Erie, one of the Great Lakes. For a number of years, life within the lake was decreasing. As it stands now, the lake is very much alive.

Pequiste
Pequiste
  anarchyst
January 26, 2019 6:21 pm

Lake Erie was much cooler when it was able to ignite on fire.

yahsure
yahsure
January 26, 2019 3:22 pm

Between this stuff and the solar minimum, we have a wet dream for the agenda 21 crowd who thinks there are too many people. I think the Liberal/Democrats are evil like Stalin.

MJC
MJC
  yahsure
January 27, 2019 7:50 am

It won’t be long until we all are forced to be vegan unless your willing to eat soylent green
I believe there are too many people on this planet, I struggle with this because I love my grand children but worry alone that their future may soon be bleak. I don’t advise my children not to have kids because like most, I avert my eyes and try to be optimistic. Hope for the best, technology will save us from ourselves or accelerate to the finish.

No one
No one
  KaD
January 27, 2019 8:33 am

We knew they all have some kind of cooties.

Thunderbird
Thunderbird
January 26, 2019 5:40 pm

When I read the collapse is already here I became concerned and started looking for it. I first went out to the garage to see if it was there but it wasn’t. Then I went to the food pantry and then the refrigerator but it wasn’t there. I then went to my office and looked in the closet but it wasn’t there. Then I went upstairs and looked in every room but it wasn’t there.

Could someone please tell me where the collapse is? I want to know.

Articles like this are a waste of time reading. Absolutely nothing of value to read about. When a collapse comes we will all know it. It is not a process. It will be a sudden breakdown of the system. Like was beginning to happen with the air transport system after a 34 day shutdown of the government. Funny thing about that is we are so far gone as a self regulating society that we can’t even survive a partial government shutdown. It reveals our vulnerability that we are unable to adjust our behavior to a partial interruption of services.

Our government is dis-functional and whats worse is our society is dis-functional. We no longer have the ability to adapt to changing conditions; even when the changing conditions are transitory.

Funny how we have troops all over the world fighting terrorism and we cannot even protect our southern border from invading populations from third world countries all over the world. Make america great again is becoming an empty slogan.

Since the turn of the century the country has gone through a great change both in how the people think and the way the country is run. External wars have created massive government debt and mass unchecked legal and illegal immigration have unbalanced the political stability that used to exist.

Whenever anything as changed and leaves its bounds, instantly this brings death to that which was before. LUCRETIUS.

We are now where LUCRETIUS; a voice out of the past, says we are. There is no turning back. While we the people were sleeping our elected representatives changed the game.

The Yellow Vests in France have evidently woken up but will they be able to turn the tide in their country? Their only way back to self determination will be to destroy the system that holds them in bondage. We will see. The elites in France and the EU will not go down without a fight. Freedom is not free. It always in history had to be paid for in blood.

As for america many of us seem to be better off then the French common man; for right now, but then again many in the working class are really struggling with the ability to pay rent and put food on the table. That is evident to anyone that is paying attention. But the professional class is doing well. And as long as they can pay their property taxes the cities will survive and life will go on.

But as long as this system continues america will not be great again. Because when america was great this system did not exist. Administrative Law did not exist across the country. America was great until the early 1970s when all the State Legislatures accepted the Administrative Procedures Act and began using administrative law to control every aspect of american life. And it has been down hill since then.

So Make America Great again to me means getting rid of or installing values in this administrative system that is holding america in bondage. It means a congress that works together for the people; not the corporations. It means people waking up and becoming self directing and not depending on government for their subsistence. It means people going out and starting their own businesses without government regulating those businesses or the products they produce. It means busting up the monopolies and creating a level playing field for business to truly compete.

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
  Thunderbird
January 26, 2019 11:17 pm

Head of the class comment.

BK-another day closer to this fourth turnings end
BK-another day closer to this fourth turnings end
  Thunderbird
January 27, 2019 8:00 am

Collapse happens slowly, and then all at once. It’s still going slowly…for those of us with enough wisdom to understand, comprehend and try to get out of the way…when it happens all at once, then EVERYONE will know it. But, it will be too late for most by then. Hope you got your popcorn stacked, it’s gonna be a show for the ages.

No one
No one
  Thunderbird
January 27, 2019 8:38 am

I second Donkey Ball’s nomination for “head of the class” comment.

GilbertS
GilbertS
January 27, 2019 3:11 am

So if you can give me a feel-good story about something that kills cockroaches, houseflies, and mosquitoes, I’m OK with it.

No one
No one
  GilbertS
January 27, 2019 8:39 am

Boric acid mixed with a bit of powdered sugar. Place it in cracks, crevices and on ledges where your pets will not access. You may see a few bugs once in a while, but they will be walking really, really, slow.

No one
No one
January 27, 2019 7:16 am

Am finally taking a few minutes to read this. Chris Martensen pretty much educated us a decade ago about what to do to get ready.

We listened. Bought the land a year later. Started building five years ago. Watched the collapse begin from the porch, which was the best anyone could hope for.

Edit after reading a bit… I realize the say neighing naysayers will accuse Chris of trying to cover his cries of WOLF by suggesting the wolf came and went undetected and he told us so. I’m not one of them. I see Peak Insanity around us in so many aspects I am glad I listened to those crazy prepper kooks in the Family of Families group at Tinker and went to the presentation and got my usually reticent husband to attend enough of the discussion, he educated himself and agreed to exit the ‘burbs as soon as possible.

I said, long ago, to friends who rolled their eyes at me… “Our society is in a state of collapse, with common sense thrown aside for commonness.” Commonness was something children were once taught to avoid, but now it is known as equality. I either just made that up or am plagiarizing someone closely. Either way, I think I’m onto something. Commonness really be synonymous with equality, couldn’t it?

Back to Chris’s article before it is time to go feed the little kangaroo hopping goats. They are really cute. And, since the second nanny lost her kid, I have TWO nursing goats, if I can keep Nellie nursing. I’ll be making that goat cheese this spring!

So, back to the Collapse issue, since I’m all set for it.

Here is my first “takeaway.” Ecological impact is a very tricky thing, which can sometimes be an intentional consequence, albeit undisclosed.

Here, in Missouri, during the last decade or so, these Japanese beetles have begun to threaten crops, gardens and, even, hillbilly log homes in the suburbs of the sticks. There is, of course, a special poison you can get from Monsanto, which is evil enough with roots deep in the beginning of this diabolical plan to send these beetle bugs marching across the country. In other words, 1916 was when they came, so someone who understands data manipulation, or propaganda, could make obvious connection to robber barons and Jekyll island meetings. With Monsanto’s connections to German chemists, there could also be some suggestion they might have poisoned Jews for Hitler. But, mostly, in my neck of the woods, faraway from Jeckyll Island or Germany, the dislike for Monsanto comes from sweeping up these beetles from the floor each day rather than spray poison on my windowsills. I’ve settled for borax mixed with a little powdered sugar on the window frame. They die inside the house without laying more eggs, so it is a decent compromise. I’ve been told that works for roaches, as well, placed under cabinets or appliances (so pets do not eat.)

“The beetle came to the U.S., plant scientists believe, in a shipment of ornamental irises to New Jersey about 1916.” See? Obvious connection to the Jeckyll Island plan to take over the entire country by infiltrating with beetles without a natural place in the food chain. They eat everything.

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/japanese-beetles-threaten-gardens-and-crops-in-missouri-illinois/article_792b576a-461c-54b5-8aef-983bf974d6c2.html

I am only halfway joking. These bugs are a pestilence with not enough birds to eat them all. We refuse to use toxic chemicals, but I can see why people are easily tempted to do so. Shoot, I did so for years. I shudder to think of the toxic chemicals we used when I was in the service. Anyway, just a nod to Chris, saying we listened and a personal anecdote which may or may not make a lick of common sense due to your commonness.

The dawn approaches. Little goats need food.

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MJC
MJC
  No one
January 27, 2019 7:38 am

Phermone traps work really well on Japanese beetles, in my experience

Boat Guy
Boat Guy
January 27, 2019 11:15 am

We as a species have been literally and figuratively shitting where we eat and drink with everything from our own excremate to industrial waste , farm runoff and conspicuous consumption and the waste produced from that modern life habits .
Now what ???

Thunderbird
Thunderbird
  Boat Guy
January 27, 2019 5:40 pm

Every once in awhile nature on her own cleans us the mess caused by the biosphere. Humans are part of the biosphere. Nature does it by causing parts of the crust (tectonic plates) to sink under the water and raises other parts of the crust up above the water.

The story of Noah’s Ark seems to be one of those times.

So Boat Guy don’t be so concerned where we shit. Nature takes care of that. If we are truly going into a grand solar minimum then the process is already in gear to happen.

My suggestion to you is get close to God.