“We Are Going Up In Flames”: New Jersey In “Worse Shape Than Any Other State” Senate President Admits

Via ZeroHedge

For years, it was conventional wisdom that the most financially-challenged state in the US – whether it comes to overall debt burden, outlays, tax collections, underfunded pension and retirement obligations, or simply credit rating – was Illinois, followed closely by New Jersey in second place.

However, according to New Jersey’s Senate president, conventional wisdom is wrong. In an interview with Bloomberg, Senator Stephen Sweeney, a Democrat, said that that credit-rating companies may be underestimating the severity of the state’s financial strains by giving it the second-lowest grade after Illinois.

“We are in worse shape than Illinois,” Sweeney said. “We are not investing in education, we are not investing in the areas that we want because all the money is going to pensions and health care.”

As Bloomberg notes, these comments underscore the persistent fiscal pressure on New Jersey, a high-tax state contending with massive debts to employee pension funds after years of failing to set aside enough to cover the $212 billion of benefits that have been promised. As extensively discussed in the past, New Jersey’s retirement system had about $82 billion of assets in 2018, only 38% of what it needs to cover checks that are owed in the decades ahead. That’s lower than any other state system in the U.S., according to data compiled by Bloomberg. The state’s obligation for retirees’ health care benefits adds another $90.5 billion. The state’s solution? Raise expected pension fund returns from 7.0% to 7.5%!

Wall Street and rating companies have expressed concern that funding for state services is being consumed by the pensions, which investors have said aren’t even at the tread water level. That’s the amount that the state needs to put in each year to keep up the liabilities from growing. But with the state’s taxes already among the highest in the U.S., it’s difficult to raise new revenue.

Adding insult to injury, the state is banned from borrowing to balance its budget, and it can only issue general obligation bonds through voter approval.

The outspoken Sweeney, New Jersey’s highest-ranking state lawmaker and career ironworker, has clashed with Governor Phil Murphy, his fellow Democrat, on several issues, successfully blocking the governor’s pitches for higher income-tax rates on millionaires, a smart move in light of several prominent departures by some of the state’s richest citizens such as David Tepper, who moved to less tax burdensome pastures in recent years.

Ironically, it is Sweeney who also pushed for less costly employee benefits, a hard sell with unionized employees who were key to Murphy’s election. In 2017, Sweeney resisted a push to unseat him by the New Jersey Education Association in what campaign-finance officials aptly enough, called the most expensive legislative race in state history. In May, after Sweeney proposed a series of cost-cutting health and pension bills, the teachers union vowed to fight “a terrible trend” and work with the governor.

As a result of this ongoing financial and political chaos, and absent some form of state bailout, the worst case scenario awaits the millions of state retirees. Karel Citroen, head of municipal-bond research at Conning, said he could foresee a situation in Illinois or New Jersey where “its pension fund essentially has no assets to cover its liabilities and benefits are paid from its annual budget.”

“I wouldn’t be surprised if one of the states ended up in a situation like Puerto Rico in terms of their pensions,” he said, referring to the bankrupt island’s depleted retirement system. “The way it has been going over the last ten years clearly hasn’t worked. States have pushed out their amortization but haven’t really addressed the benefits or made real step ups in their contributions.”

As shown in the top chart, New Jersey remains rated A3 by Moody’s, as well as A- by S&P A by Fitch. Those are the second-lowest ratings for a U.S. state after Illinois, which is one level above junk by Moody’s and S&P.

“Why am I yelling fire in a crowded theater and everyone else is saying that we’re fine,” Sweeney said. “We’re not. And it’s going to go up in flames. I would rather not go down in memory as the guy that told everyone the pension system was going to collapse and be found that I was correct.”

Well, maybe Sweeney won’t be “that” guy, but someone else will unfortunately have to deliver the very bad news to what will soon be a lot of furious retirees who learn that their retirement eggs has been suddenly cut in half… or worse.

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24 Comments
Michael S Goodman
Michael S Goodman
August 28, 2019 12:43 pm

The state is run by the mafia! What did you expect?

Dutchman
Dutchman
  Michael S Goodman
August 28, 2019 3:14 pm

It’s called the “Garden State” because “Shit Hole of the Universe” won’t fit as a license plate slogan.

Look at northern NJ’s population: Mostly indigents, ton’s of Puerto Ricans (probably the laziest race on the planet), gangs, mafia, union mafia, and lots of coons.

Pequiste
Pequiste
  Dutchman
August 28, 2019 9:04 pm

Hey Dutch, you didn’t include Camden in your list. (I know it is not in the north of Joizy.)

Camden – the model for the Garden State’s garden spot.

AC
AC
August 28, 2019 1:07 pm

New Jersey, a high-tax state contending with massive debts to employee pension funds after years of failing to set aside enough to cover the $212 billion of benefits that have been promised….

The government made promises which weren’t kept, and which were probably never intended to be kept. I suppose some people might call this fraud.

So . . . . where did the money that should have been placed into the pension fund go?

In places like California, it’s not a mystery – they spent it on free shit for Mexicans and blacks. But what did New Jersey do with it?

e.d. ott
e.d. ott
  AC
August 28, 2019 1:31 pm

It occurs when more benefits get paid out than contributions going in.
This happens when more retirees claim benefits as opposed to employees paying in at lower rates. Over time, the benefits decrease or drop to zero as retirees live longer and costs of living increase.
I watched an older co-worker who’d driven a truck for JB Hunt sell his house and relocate. He couldn’t afford to live in NJ on Social Security and a non-existent Teamster-run pension when it went bankrupt.

Anonymous
Anonymous
August 28, 2019 1:21 pm

$10 bet says one remedy will be to place an exit tax on residents looking to pull up stakes, and relocate to Florida.
Just like Illinois.
That tactic, and raping the homeowner that sells, to move out.
The money thieves in high Dem States are morons.
But, give Amazon 900 million tax break for erecting a warehouse distribution hub that will employ 1000 people. Woo Hoo. Jobs!
Equal horrendous R.O.I.
Idiots couldn’t run a profitable lemonade stand, let alone a State government budget system.

Incentives, morons.
Use incentives to attract newbies & make existing residents want to stay, not flee.

WTF is so hard about that?

Money goes where it is treated best.

Keep squeezing the producers, and they’ll be gone, and so will your State’s fiscal solvency.

Are you listening, Michigan?
Nah.
Didn’t think so.

e.d. ott
e.d. ott
  Anonymous
August 28, 2019 1:36 pm

That “exit tax” already exists.
If you sell your house and try closing on property out-of-state, NJ will ask for their cut of the income taxes before you leave. This potentially puts you at short-term financial risk. It’s wiser to sell, then rent for a year by downsizing, then relocate. The fucking tax vampires financing the state debt don’t bite as hard that way.

Pequiste
Pequiste
  e.d. ott
August 28, 2019 9:06 pm

A great tip, e.d.

e.d. ott
e.d. ott
August 28, 2019 1:25 pm

Gee, Steve-O, tell me something I DIDN’T know!
This swamp has been created and run by, and for, the fucking Democrats and mob-affiliated union political kickbacks for YEARS. I’ve told my wife numerous times my Teamster-run union pension fund has absolutely no chance of being paid out during this lifetime and we need to make some alternative life choices. As a township employee, taxpayer, and parent I’ve watched and observed the workings of where I live and the social interactions among the residents. I especially despise the NJEA and their Teachers Union.
Sanctuary state NJ, especially my special corner, is going to sink. It’s loaded with retirees and more Orthodox Jews and minorities will be moving here to escape NY. It’s time to go before my corner is another Ramapo, NY or Lakewood, NJ.
The wife, she says I’m soooo NEGATIVE.
Well, guess what. A lot of realists who deal in facts are sometimes informed cynics. Billions in the red is a big indicator deficit spending and MMT doesn’t work, but you couldn’t tell the LibTard governor that. He could care less, he’s a billionaire using my taxes to give DACA babies free shit. Does he shop at Costco or Aldi’s? No.
NJ ranks as one of the top states for government services, but you PAY for that. Taxes are only going to increase as more tit-sucking people gravitate to NJ and it won’t get any better.

Dutchman
Dutchman
  e.d. ott
August 28, 2019 4:44 pm

Otherwise it’s OK?

e.d. ott
e.d. ott
  Dutchman
August 28, 2019 5:49 pm

If you lived here you wouldn’t ask that question.
The property taxes are some of the worst in the nation. It’s a union state. The population density is worse than Japan in some places. That means a lot of traffic on pitifully maintained roads, and since the state is loaded with retirees and minorities, it’s sucks to drive anywhere unless the inclement weather keeps the idiots at home. I drive for a living and dealing with the NJDMV is a nightmare because their incompetence causes me to go back every year for something-or-other that was their fault in accounting for my state-tracked CDL.
The gun laws suck, you even have to get permission for a pellet rifle. Using a pellet rifle in the Nanny State can get you prosecuted as can an unattended no-kill trap called in as a complaint by a Quisling neighbor.
When it’s time, I’m gone. I was toying with the idea of pissing the neighbors off by selling to Orthodox Jews, who, by the way, are buying every house they can to live in or lease to minority renters. In ten years or so they will get reps on the school board and local government. After that, the local schools will go to hell just like they did elsewhere when extra-curriculars and funding got diverted to the private yeshivas.
Yes …. time to go.

Miles Long
Miles Long
  e.d. ott
August 29, 2019 3:41 pm

It’s still nice between Belvedere & the Water Gap. Well…except for the taxes & gun laws.

Anonymous
Anonymous
August 28, 2019 5:20 pm

New Jersey is a tax hell hole & Maryland is not far behind !
The only reason Maryland holds a triple A bond rating is due to the unrealistic numbers of government employees residing in the state . You should have heard the wine fest when the federal government had its bull shit shutdown . The Maryland government receives $6 million per day from federal employees in the form of state withholding of income tax . Strange , nobody I know had their life skip a beat including federal employees . Sure there will always be a few that no matter how much they are paid there is to much month at the end of the money , most are driving cars far above what would be considered a prudent expense but remember the first thing congress cocksuckers said was they would all receive back pay for the shut down . Funny , I never got back pay for my lay offs when the company had lack of work or funding , I must have missed the memo LOL

SeeBee
SeeBee
August 28, 2019 8:35 pm

NJ is just putting its dibs on the bailout funds that will be needed to keep almost every pension-deficit State afloat. That mob thinking is coming in handy.

Pequiste
Pequiste
August 28, 2019 9:16 pm

Would this be a good time to ask if anyone knows what financial jeenyus and criminally inclined (is there any other type of politician?) ex-gov John Corzine is up to and located these day?

Maybe Hoboken? (For that Manhattan view?)

SeeBee
SeeBee
  Pequiste
August 28, 2019 9:24 pm

https://zerohedge.whotrades.com/blog/43540531258
Can you believe this crap?!!! Unbelievable.

Pequiste
Pequiste
  SeeBee
August 29, 2019 3:40 am

Thanks, SeeBee. You are correct: un-fucking-believable.

Rather than “Liberty and Prosperity” I propose a new motto for NJ: “Where Crooks Flourish.”

WestcoastDeplorable
WestcoastDeplorable
August 28, 2019 10:26 pm

Why the fuck would anyone want to live in either NJ or IL? Both are shitholes.

e.d. ott
e.d. ott
  WestcoastDeplorable
August 29, 2019 9:40 am

Family, but even that has a fading luster.
Girlfriend, now wife, was living in NJ and I relocated. Some places are better than others, but yes, it’s all Indian Country for me. It’s all about the demographics which are now deteriorating fast.
Wife has a secure job and I left 26 years military/defense contracting and bought a house in a relatively decent area so her boys could get a leg up. Educational opportunities are excellent in NJ for kids. Many younger ones don’t realize it and piss the opportunities away. I know, because stuff the boys get in the NJ school system, despite the degenerate liberals, wasn’t available to me 40 years ago.
As I said I’m under no illusion there will be a pension from NJ for me. If the kids do well they become my legacy.
That’s all I’m asking for … that, and some peace.

Tacitus
Tacitus
August 29, 2019 12:23 am

FUCK NEW JERSEY!!! They dug their own hole. You Yankee trash need to accept your fate and stop whining. Fuck all you Yankee Pimps and Bitches! Carpet bagging scum! It is a happy day for me!

e.d. ott
e.d. ott
  Tacitus
August 29, 2019 9:57 am

There good people here, and no … many aren’t natives or unsalvaged LibTards..
Grew up between a cornfield and bean field. Many of my friends were salt of the earth farmers and I helped them during the summer. There’s more in the World, but much good to be had living closer to the Earth and it hasn’t changed my perspective one bit.
I’m going to push Fate, and I intend on surviving. Sorry.

Anonymous
Anonymous
August 29, 2019 7:07 am

The sad thing is what is going to happen to all the folks who have been promised pensions? How are they going to live and what will they do once they find out that they are essentially broke going into retirement?

e.d. ott
e.d. ott
  Anonymous
August 29, 2019 10:06 am

The people who were promised pensions will take reduced benefits or lose them altogether. I expect a wave of angry geriatrics causing social and political turmoil when they lose cars, homes, and a means to eat or get meds. Those who have no family will likely suffer and die.

Miles Long
Miles Long
August 29, 2019 3:37 pm

Quick… blow the bridges before they infest the rest of America.