Edward Snowden in exile: ‘you have to be ready to stand for something’

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M G
M G
September 14, 2019 9:59 am

I truly believe the Edward Snowden story will be one found in the GeoSocioPoliticology Department of the History of the Downfall of the Late Great United States.

I am happy to hear him speak of his God-given “helpmeet” in such nice terms. And, I am glad that she was able to join him in “exile.”

I suggest a new title for the last part of the video, if someone wanted to rip it from 7:00 to the end for a new, short post of his comment on Standing for a thing instead of just Believing in a thing. I liked it…

“The Exile of Ed Snowden: a One-Man Stand”

Summary Quote Snowden from 7:00 on:

“We need people to recognize those problems and understand the problems and be willing to give up something …

People can Believe in a thing, but you have to STAND for a thing if you want to make it a reality.

[[[Very brief summary of the last minute and a half.]]]

My thought? Right or Wrong, I o admire Ed Snowden for standing on a principle he truly believes. No matter what.

And, like him, I admire his wife and life partner, Lindsey, for standing by her man. No matter what.

Anonymous
Anonymous
September 14, 2019 10:05 am

Living freely requires paying the costs required. An income stream, a large savings account, or on someone else’s dime are the usual means. I wonder how Eddie funds his living in Russia. If holdings were able to be transferred from U$D to rubles, how that was accomplished would be interesting to know, but doubtful that he reveals such in his book. The guy has stones; I’ll give him that much. Whistleblowers usually pay a huge price for taking a stand. Is he righteous, or is he a tool for one of the hat teams, white or black? Both? Hmm.

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  Anonymous
September 14, 2019 11:02 am

Anyone who doesn’t realize by now that Snowden and Assange are paid actors is mentally challenged.

It’s easy to manufacture fake people like these, by the dozen!

Spotting spooks, manufactured fakes, Trojan-horses, and “limited hangouts” is basic espionage 101.

Also, the term “spook” comes from espionage, as in a ghost, someone who is wealthy and/or a spy who fakes their death- like Epstein.

Grog
Grog

I took basic Espionage 101 at a school run by a guy whose name is Milo Maffis, or something.

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  Grog
September 14, 2019 1:21 pm

“You have to be ready to stand for something.” – Edward Snowden

Like relocating to friendly Russia, getting paid, and pretending you’re “in exile”?

SeeBee
SeeBee

Something about Snowden (Assange and Manning) always rubbed me the wrong way. I can’t place my finger on it….but intuitively, something keeps me questioning his (their) intentions.

Bob P
Bob P
September 14, 2019 10:28 am

Well-spoken, brilliant, courageous man; I have the highest respect for him. He, unlike so many of the cretins in Washington, is a real American patriot. Until he is allowed to return and live freely in the USA we can be sure that evil continues to rule in Washington.

Here’s what they did to the people who helped Snowden escape to Russia:

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  Bob P
September 14, 2019 10:54 am

Wow.

You believe anything the mainstream tells you on this one… why?

Bob P
Bob P

What the hell are you talking about? The mainstream tells me he’s a traitor and should be in jail or killed. You apparently believe them on this.

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22winmag - Guns now, due process later DJT 2-28-19
September 14, 2019 10:57 am

Snowden is a limited hangout, just like Daniel Ellsberg (the Jewish fake whistleblower from the DISCREDITED Pentagon Papers).

Assangeis also a limited hangout… a paid actor.

There are no “good guys.”

Real whistleblowers usually end up dead in short order.

There are no “celebrity whistleblowers” who expose government wrongdoing year after year (unless they are manufactured fakes like Snowden and Assange).

You are a slave
You are a slave
September 14, 2019 12:14 pm

“Some might say “I don’t care if they violate my privacy; I’ve got nothing to hide.” Help them understand that they are misunderstanding the fundamental nature of human rights. Nobody needs to justify why they “need” a right: the burden of justification falls on the one seeking to infringe upon the right. But even if they did, you can’t give away the rights of others because they’re not useful to you. More simply, the majority cannot vote away the natural rights of the minority. Arguing That You Don’t Care About The Right To Privacy Because You Have Nothing To Hide Is No Different Than Saying You Don’t Care About Free Speech Because You Have Nothing To Say.” ~ Edward Snowden

Anonymous
Anonymous
September 14, 2019 12:42 pm

Tell the truth to power get killed or exiled bankrupted life destroyed . Snowden and Assuage are surely not with out faults but like people who have had involvements with the Clinton power machine discredited or dead .
The Republic circles the drain and those speaking out now are quickly silenced . It’s only a matter of time now !

Undefined
Undefined
September 14, 2019 1:39 pm

One wonders if, in 2013, TPTB wanted the public to know how far the surveillance state had progressed.

If so, how else might have Snowden’s surfacing on the grid have served the goals of the Power Establishment?

Is The Guardian a tool of British intelligence in the same way The Washington Post services the CIA?

Because in The Guardian article linked below, Snowden said:

We have moved to a society in which we are forced to live our lives naked before power.

Therefore, in light of Snowden’s revelations, perhaps we should all acquire more scarves, hats and coats:

‘They wanted me gone’: Edward Snowden tells of whistleblowing, his AI fears and six years in Russia | US news | The Guardian

He [Snowden] has dispensed with the scarves, hats and coats he once used as disguises and now moves freely around the city, riding the metro, visiting art galleries or the ballet, joining friends in cafes and restaurants.

RS
RS
September 14, 2019 1:41 pm

Snowden was a CIA plant inserted into the NSA. Don’t trust him for a second.

Spy vs. Spy, and it continues today.

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  RS
September 14, 2019 8:49 pm

I keep trying to tell these poor souls who think Snowden and Assange and Manning aren’t manufactured to wake up.

Daniel Ellsberg and the Pentagon Papers has long been outed as a limited hangout, so why not the new crop?

M G
M G
  RS
September 15, 2019 8:20 am

I asked my friend in DC if her organization tested non college graduates for potential in programming as Snowden was tested for hire at NSA.

She said NO…only if asked to do so.

I assume by TPTB

Steve
Steve
September 14, 2019 4:51 pm

Snowden and Assange are hero’s in my book.

M G
M G
  Steve
September 14, 2019 7:27 pm

I believe History will say that.

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September 14, 2019 8:41 pm

The PSYOP message: There are good people like Snowden and Assange who are standing up, fighting the good fight, and making a difference!

Reality: There are no good guys and how exactly have they made a real difference? They are spoon feeding you bullshit, and you think they’re real people people being persecuted. The fact is, getting paid to pretend you are in exile while enjoying your celebrity status and (paid) retirement Russia isn’t such a bad job after all.