“Not One Penny In Middle-Class Tax Increases” – Warren Unveils Plan To Cover $52 Trillion Medicare-For-All

Senator Elizabeth Warren unveiled more details of her “Medicare for All” plan she swears won’t cost the middle class “one penny,” while raising federal spending by $20.5 trillion. Paying for the increases would be a wave of taxes on large corporations, the wealthy, cracking down on tax evasion, an $800 billion reduction in defense spending, and putting newly legalized immigrants on the tax rolls.

Warren has come under pressure from her Democratic rivals to release the details of her ambitious plans – and in particular, how she plans to pay for them. As the New York Times notes, “Her new proposal marks a turning point for her campaign, in which she will have to sell voters on a tax-and-spending plan that rivals the ambitions of the New Deal and the Great Society while also defending it against both Democratic and Republican criticism.”

At a cost of “just under $52 trillion” (about what the current system will cost over 10 years), Warren’s plan calls for the elimination of employer-sponsored health insurance, which over 50% of Americans now receive. It would be replaced by free government health coverage for all Americans.

To pay for the $20.5 trillion, Warren would require employers pay trillions of dollars to the government. For those who currently pay for employee coverage, this would replace much of that spending. Businesses who don’t currently cover healthcare costs would be exempt. Warren would also tax financial transactions such as stock trades, as well as boost taxes for investment gains for the top 1% of households. Her signature wealth tax proposal would also take a larger chunk from billionaires. Lastly, Warren wants to cut $800 billion in military spending.

Ms. Warren’s estimate for the cost of Medicare for all relies on an aggressive set of assumptions about how to lower national health care costs while providing comprehensive coverage to all Americans. Like Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, she would essentially eliminate medical costs for individuals, including premiums, deductibles and other out-of-pocket expenses.

Critically, her new plan would not raise taxes on middle-class Americans, a question she has been asked over and over but has not answered directly until now. When confronted on the campaign trail and debate stage, she emphasized instead that her plan would result in higher overall costs for wealthy people and big corporations but lower costs for middle-class families. –NYT

Democratic 2020 rivals such as Joe Biden and Bete Buttigieg have repeatedly criticized Warren for her failure to detail the specifics of her plan – with Buttigieg calling her “extremely evasive.”

“A key step in winning the public debate over Medicare for all will be explaining what this plan costs — and how to pay for it,” Warren writes in her plan. “We don’t need to raise taxes on the middle class by one penny.”

After the Trump administration and Republicans unsuccessfully attempted to repeal the Affordable Care Act, Warren and other Democrats have taken up healthcare as a central issue to compete for their party’s presidential nomination.

The Times suggests that responding to her rivals in such detail has opened her up to attack from the right.

Although she is not proposing broad tax increases on individuals, her proposal will still allow Republicans to portray her as a tax-and-spend liberal who wants to dramatically expand the role of the federal government while abolishing private health insurance. Her plan’s $20.5 trillion price tag is equal to roughly one-third of what the federal government is currently projected to spend over the next decade in total. –NYT

Warren has aligned herself with Sen. Bernie Sanders, one of her top rivals who has long championed single-payer healthcare. Not only did she co-sponsor his Medicare for All legislation in the Senate, she declared “I’m with Bernie” regarding healthcare during her first primary debate in June.

According to the report, Warren’s financing plan is based on cost estimates that are on the low side. Her estimate that the plan will cost $20.5 trillion over 10 years is based on a recent cost model by the Urban Institute, except she inserts her own assumptions which reduce their estimate of $34 trillion over the same period.

Warren’s plan would create a new “employer Medicare contribution” which would total $8.8 trillion over a decade. Moreover, states would pay the federal government much of what they already spend to insure state workers and low-income residents covered by Medicaid.

$3 trillion of the plan would be raised via two proposals to tax the richest Americans. Previously, Warren floated a 3% annual tax on net worth over $1 billion. She is now raising that to 6%. The second proposal would alter how gains are taxed for the top 1% of households.

In addition to imposing a tax on financial transactions, she would also make changes to corporate taxation. She is counting on stronger tax enforcement to bring in $2.3 trillion in taxes that would otherwise go uncollected. And she is banking on passing an overhaul of immigration laws — which itself would be a huge political feat — and gaining revenue from taxes paid by newly legal residents. –NYT

On the medical side, Warren’s plan would put ‘substantial downward pressure on payments to hospitals, doctors and pharmaceutical companies,’ according to the Times. Instead, Warren assumes that aggressive negotiations could lower spending on generic medications by 30% vs. current levels, and that spending on prescription drugs could plummet by 70%. Payments to hospitals would be around 10% higher than what Medicare currently pays – which would lead to big cuts for some hospitals, while helping others. Doctors would be paid less under Warren’s plan vs. what Medicare currently pays.

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Iska Waran
Iska Waran
November 1, 2019 11:18 am

Sounds likely to be quite popular.

Dutch
Dutch
  Iska Waran
November 1, 2019 11:54 am

With people who have shit for brains.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Dutch
November 1, 2019 2:06 pm

No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.

None Ya Biz
None Ya Biz
  Iska Waran
November 2, 2019 4:10 pm

Cite H. L. Mencken when you do that partner!

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
November 1, 2019 11:21 am

There are only two ways to set prices….market forces of supply and demand or government rationing…..The Warren Government Rationing approach will, of course, produce massive shortages of medical services, prescription drugs and end new medical discoveries.

I think most folks can understand why this would be no different than every other government-run health plan….long wait times for shitty service and doctors that are less competent.

Let’s however think about the new medical discoveries for a second….in our quasi-free healthcare market (getting less free all the time) bio-tech, pharma and medical device companies can still make a profit so there is an incentive to do R&D.

The rest of the government-run healthcare system countries then ride our coattails integrating new drugs and treatments into their plans as they can afford them. But if you take away the profit motive here in the USA…..the R&D machine will slow down dramatically….why would Lilly work on a new drug if Der Fuhrer Warren is going to tell them how much they can make…..sorry….hard pass.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Martel's Hammer
November 1, 2019 2:05 pm

“There are only two ways to set prices….market forces of supply and demand or government rationing”.

Seems to me there’s a third way: allow providers & insurers to conspire to issue fake, inflated invoices (raising the perceived value of insurance) and then making it illegal to not have insurance. So, what we have now.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  Iska Waran
November 1, 2019 2:50 pm

That’s not actually setting prices but is an accurate description of the current government enabled oligopoly extracting super-profits from the tax cattle (that would be us).

KaD
KaD
  Martel's Hammer
November 1, 2019 6:05 pm

Think about what your day is like when you have to go to the DMV. Now imagine your healthcare is like that.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  KaD
November 1, 2019 6:58 pm

With Medicare for All, when your life is on the line, you get the efficiency of the DMV, the competence of the Postal Service, and the compassion of the IRS.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  TN Patriot
November 1, 2019 8:04 pm

At first glance I thought this was a Babylon Bee headline.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Martel's Hammer
November 2, 2019 7:24 am

-son to mom……i cut off my arm with a chainsaw.
Omg lets go to the ER
Er said have a seat and wait while we practice equality and take care of the non English speaking illegals for a common cold.
Doctor said we cannot spend the money to reattach your arm because we are rationing things as someone else in the future may need these items.
I lost my job because it took two arms to perform my duties…
Went to u employment and social security lines and they said i could still work so they denied me. As i was leaving the brown whore with 8 kids, none of which resembled one another started bitching i took too long while the other brown lady gave her the free benefits. Somehow she qualified at a healthy half my age…..

Steve
Steve
November 1, 2019 11:24 am

Elizabeth, explain to me how raising taxes on “big corporations” won’t result in higher prices being charged for the products they sell and we buy from them?
I’m sure that will ultimately cost me more than 1 penny.
More intrusive govt will solve all our problems.

Neuday
Neuday
  Steve
November 1, 2019 12:28 pm

If the evil corporations raise prices, then government will step in with price controls. If corporations reduce output to influence prices, the government will step in with production quotas. It’s only fair.

Nicolas Maduro
Nicolas Maduro
  Neuday
November 1, 2019 2:07 pm

Makes sense to me.

splurge
splurge
  Steve
November 1, 2019 1:28 pm

Not only that but also lower the wages they pay to the employees. Also additional offshoring of labor.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
November 1, 2019 11:32 am

Memo to Sen. Lieawatha:

Corporations do not pay taxes, they just collect them from their customers and pass them on to the government.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  TN Patriot
November 1, 2019 11:53 am

TN Patriot: Shhh, don’t let the people know that truth….

musket
musket
November 1, 2019 11:53 am

This clown is nothing short of an enormous fraud and her medicare plan completely both accounting and accountability fail. Her entire career is based on shibboleths like medicare for all and they all failed as well.

roberto
roberto
November 1, 2019 11:59 am

Maf be hard !

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  roberto
November 1, 2019 7:00 pm

Yu gots at rite, m-f-er

Hank
Hank
November 1, 2019 12:07 pm

Yeah, not ONE penny but many thousands. I paid for my Medicare through payroll taxes and now Warren expects me to pay yet again, this time for everyone else including illegal aliens. No thanks.

LibertyToad
LibertyToad
November 1, 2019 12:07 pm

Only a fool would listen to the promises of a documented liar…..

AC
AC
  LibertyToad
November 1, 2019 2:36 pm

We should ask her what the price is in beads.

Bob P
Bob P
November 1, 2019 12:09 pm

$52 trillion? So what? Just push a few computer keys and presto! $52 trillion! No need for taxes at all. And since insane currency printing over the last dozen years hasn’t ruined the currency, another $52 trillion won’t hurt either. In fact, why not make it ten times that and everyone can quit and buy yachts and party day and night. Go, Pocahontas!

Dutch
Dutch
  Bob P
November 1, 2019 12:36 pm

It’s all done digital – don’t even have to print the money anymore.

Yancey_Ward
Yancey_Ward
November 1, 2019 12:24 pm

Oh, shit, I thought this was Friday Fail.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Yancey_Ward
November 1, 2019 2:08 pm

It is.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
November 1, 2019 12:37 pm

Looking for the Babylon Bee link, but this is actually NOT a parody….or is it?

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  MrLiberty
November 1, 2019 1:35 pm

She isn’t stupid. She knows it’s not even remotely possible. Her supporters actually believe her though, not unlike supporters of any other individual or party. On the contrary, I think quite a few of the Democratic politicians are despicable, evil, sadistic geniuses that are quite close to realizing their specific End Game.

Their knuckle-dragging supporters, however, are just plain maroons.

22winmag - w/o tagline
22winmag - w/o tagline
  Articles of Confederation
November 1, 2019 5:55 pm

Yes!

Low-level pawns think the plan is viable.

Anyone high-level enough to matter knows it’s not.

The same can be said for #resistance and #impeachment.

Only low-level losers believe the efforts to resist and impeach are genuine efforts.

Anyone high-level enough to matter (both Dem and Repub) knows resistance and impeachment are sham productions intended to make the Dems look like toothless, floundering wackos instead of the DEADLY SERIOUS COMMUNIST OPERATIVES AND AGENTS OF ISRAEL THEY ARE.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Articles of Confederation
November 1, 2019 7:02 pm

Some of them are fruity maroons.

card802
card802
November 1, 2019 1:02 pm

This reads the same as the new lefty loon Lori Lightfoot in charge of Chi town and how she proposes to raise fees to erase her towns deficit……

Use smoke, mirrors, promise to tax corporations and of course, tax the wealthy…….. The government did a great job taking over public schools and creating idiot drones that vote.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
November 1, 2019 1:29 pm

I have an honest, no-sarcasm question for (some of) you (unemotional) Always Trumpers: What if the Left is successfully implementing a Fabian, controlled demolition of the system; and Trump’s failure to use the powers fully vested in the Executive is allowing it to persist?

What if he actually fully used those powers, or previous precedent, however draconian, to foment a system shock and reboot, thereby tossing Fabianism out the window?

Overthecliff
Overthecliff
November 1, 2019 1:36 pm

It is in humane and racist to make refugee immigrants fleeing American oppression pay taxes.

gatsby1219
gatsby1219
November 1, 2019 1:59 pm

Fuck it, just make everything “free”.

AC
AC
November 1, 2019 2:34 pm

There is absolutely no need to increase taxes to pay for this. The money being spent right now by the Federal and various State governments is enough, all by itself, to fully fund an American NHS at a higher per-capita rate than the UK spends on their NHS.

I’m not saying it’s a good idea – but the money is already there and it’s already being spent on health care.

Anybody demanding a new source of funds for this is lying about the need for it.

TC
TC
November 1, 2019 2:56 pm

American politics has become a game where the two parties jockey to see which has the more gullible voters.

Frank
Frank
  TC
November 1, 2019 6:55 pm

Don’t forget the blithering idiot office holder competition.

Bob
Bob
November 1, 2019 3:24 pm

How much crack does one have to smoke to buy into any of that crap? Quite a bit, I’m guessing.

yahsure
yahsure
November 1, 2019 5:27 pm

Isn’t she from Taxachusetts? it’s just typing on a keyboard to get the money, right?

KaD
KaD
November 1, 2019 6:04 pm

Democrats Move to Create New Protected Class – Climate Refugees

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
November 1, 2019 9:59 pm

Since the average USian is basically innumerate, they will vote for $52T of free stuff because someone else is supposedly going to pay the freight. Stick it to those damned corporations that produce everything the consumer purchases. That will surely work.

Little does the average voter realize that any increase in a corps taxes will instantly show up in the cost of their product or service. So, the consumer pays ALL taxes with the corp as a middleman to collect a portion so the citizenry is kept ignorant of the totality of the taxes they actually pay to gov’ts. No corp pays a tax – they collect them so gov’t can hide the true tax rate from the voting rubes.

Please all you voters, vote for the person that promises the most ‘free stuff’ so we can get this shit show over with as quickly as possible.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Solutions Are Obvious
November 1, 2019 10:41 pm

Please all you voters, vote for the person that promises the most ‘free stuff’ so we can get this shit show over with as quickly as possible.

And THAT is the obvious solution right there, but alas, I need to use that extra hour for preserving wealth.

TLate
TLate
November 1, 2019 11:12 pm

Dog whistle!! We will make the rich people pay for it…you mean the people who own Congress (you) and give you all the money for your campaign?? I think FDR started that one (rich will pay all the tax). My favorite part… we will pay doctors less… which means we will have more lawyers since they are still unregulated. You can’t make this stuff up. Does anyone understand that in order to have “free care” you have to have people to provide it? Hopefully competent people but not if they get paid crap wages. We are slowly (rapidly??) spiraling into the abyss. Yep federal programs work so well. Just ask any demo.

Anonymous
Anonymous
November 2, 2019 7:18 am

Ok listen up morans, you need them to write down their classification and definition of middle class. They refuse to disclose what and who they mean is middle class. They once in history defined back in the 1990”s the term or definition of “rich”. Bill Clinton said anyone making 50k a year even if that were to support a family of 5. You are rich at $50,000 a year in total family income as described by democrats in the 1990’s. Imagine today what they mean by middle class. I assume 20,000 income. So if you make above that they will tax the living shit out of you and waste it on brown mother f****** who are illegal or lazy.

Billy Jack Galt
Billy Jack Galt
November 2, 2019 7:37 am

Well she’s not lying…….. they’ve already destroyed the Middle Class so the tax will fall squarely on the working class poor.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
November 2, 2019 8:10 am

I feel like I’m on some kind of Candid Camera show.

That Elizabeth Warren ever rose beyond the level of a Town Clerk boggles my mind. The face, the voice, the lies, the hypocrisy, the fact that she’s a woman– everything disqualified her a long, long time ago and yet there she is, at the front of the pack.

It would be laughable if it weren’t so sad.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Hardscrabble Farmer
November 2, 2019 8:49 am

She’s going to be POTUS … welcome to your new leader.

You ask why? Because the TBP readership will not be enough to outvote the madness.

None Ya Biz
None Ya Biz
November 2, 2019 4:08 pm

Here is Warren’s plan: All large u.S. Corporations move their charters out of the united States to a tax free venue. All moderately wealthy individuals leave the u.S. and renounce their citizenship.
The 1% percent elite do not pay any taxes because they wrote the tax laws. So who to tax? The people that can’t relocate.

You know, I actually met Doug Casey once, I was running for u.S House district 8 in Tennessee as a libertarian at the time. He came across as an asshole and arrogant. Ever since then I have no interest in anything he has to say. However, people vote with their feet. When the taxes get onerous then the people that have the ability to be the engines of economics will leave. Just as they did in Ayn Rand’s tome Atlas Shrugged.

Warren wants to turn the united States into Venezuela. God help us all when she does.