Presumptively Corona’d?

Guest Post by Eric Peters

A reader sent in some interesting data – some from the CDC itself  – that presents an interesting juxtaposition. On the one hand, deaths attributed to Corona (that is to say, people who died with it in their bodies as well as from it – the distinction being important but no longer mattering) are increasing but deaths attributed to the flu – which means, flu that developed into pneumonia (mostly in older people) and resulted in death from that – are decreasing.

At least that is what is being reported:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/weeklyarchives2019-2020/data/NCHSData12.csv

There is a very active discussion of this on Reddit: Pneumonia Deaths have fallen off a cliff this year, I wonder what could have caused this to happen.

Via: According to Hoyt:

…the 2019-2020 season shows week by week pneumonia mortality to be low compared to the last few years, which is not what I expected. What I truly did not expect was the sharp decline over the last few weeks.

Could it be that “Corona” deaths – at least, a lot of “Corona” deaths – are actually deaths of people who got the flu – and then pneumonia – rebranded as “Corona” deaths?

It certainly seems to be the case that numbers are being fudged for the purposes of making “Corona” seem worse than it is – very much in the way that the EPA made the “emissions” produced by “cheating” TDI diesels seem Exxon Valdez-esque and used that to justify the “locking down” of an entire line of cars that made electric cars look silly.

We heard lots of dire talk about the “threat” these diesels presented when it was really an affront – to Uncle’s testing/certification regime, which demands “compliance” with practically nil emissions, no matter what it costs and no matter how little actual harm is at issue.

Similarly, the carbon dioxide con. The average person believes the earth is suffocating under a toxic cloud of man-made C02 when in fact the entire earth produces so little C02 that it constitutes less than 1 percent of the total. And “human activity” produces a fraction of that – yet the “climate” is in “crisis” because of that?

Really?

The problem with that fraud, of course, was that i was too obvious to see that the “climate” isn’t in “crisis.” It wasn’t getting traction as the latest Fear Sell to get the public to buy a radical diminishment of their lives and a radical increase in the power over the life of the public  . . . by the very people making the “sale.”

Well, it wasn’t working. The Green New Deal was going nowhere. And the Orange Man appeared to be on track to going back to the White House for four more years  long enough to undo most of the manufactured “crisis.”

So a new one had to be invented – one that you can’t see.

Corona!

It is everywhere! It can strike anyone! Therefore, everyone must accept the most extreme measures – else we’ll all die from Corona! This brilliant because it is possible – in the same sense that we might all die from a Coronal Mass Ejection. But is it actual? Is it likely?

There is another problem.

Bodies must be produced to support the narrative – enough of them to make it credible. One very good way to do that is to exaggerate the numbers, by conflating them with the numbers of pretty much everyone who dies, from whatever reason.

They are presumptively Corona’d.

And we’re being conned.

People die in the thousands every day in this country – because it is a big country, with lots of people in it, among them lots of older people who by dint of being old tend to die every day. What is the mortality rate at a nursing home vs. a college dorm? Everyone knows the answer, yet many accept at face value the equivalent of the nursing home fatality rate as a predictor of the college dorm fatality rate.

No one wants anyone to die – unless of course they deserve it. And we expect older people to die – sooner and easier. Because they are old. The same as regards the tubercular, the diabetic and hypertensive. All of them cause death. Corona – which is a relative of the flu and so easily conflated with the flu – may accelerate the demise of such but to say it caused it is not unlike saying that wind storm we had last night caused the termite-eaten treehouse to collapse.

Shall we outlaw the wind? Social distance it?

It is easy to dread that which you cannot see. So have a look around you. Do you see bodies stacking up like cordwood? If not, shouldn’t that worry you at least as much as something you cant see?

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8 Comments
Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
April 8, 2020 3:56 pm

It took the CDC ten weeks to answer my question. Nice to know I was asking the right question. Were more people actually dying or were they just dying of of regular garden variety death.

old white guy
old white guy
April 8, 2020 4:12 pm

I think the biggest danger to humanity as a whole is stupidity. Language had been used to obscure and confuse the less than intelligent. There has already been an order for want of a more obscuring word to describe ordering that all deaths be considered corona virus unless otherwise challenged. Numbers are very important and to keep the country locked down. The numbers must scare the shit out of every snowflake and granny in the country. Sick people should be looked after, people with mild flu like symptoms stay home and the healthy get the hell out to work. I am an old man and I know that the protocol for me is I get the flu, is let him die. I still think the whole thing is a crock and will never believe other wise until we hit the levels of the Spanish flu. By the way no one really is sure of the numbers of deaths then , I have read 20 million and as high as 50 million. Well with a world with almost 8 billion people that is still one hell of a small percentage.

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 8, 2020 6:25 pm

At trial, Jamal told the jury that while he had shot Daquan fifteen times, Daquan had a pre-existing condition, and it wasn’t really the bullets that killed him.

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 8, 2020 8:05 pm

Has anyone else noticed how hard it is to get Google ( or any search engine) to give you direct links to questions you ask like: “how many total deaths by regular flu in year xxxx…” or ” US deaths by month”…

We could do a lot of our own detective work except that info is buried and misinformation is promoted so blatantly.
I’d be curious to compare the total deaths in the USA month to month this past 12 months or month totals year vs year….I suspect overall less total people are dying by far right now as traffic fatalities, street crime etc is probably WAY down..

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
April 8, 2020 8:11 pm

With some digging to page 4 of Google suggestions I finally got this piece on CDC mortality charting….eye opening.

“According to data obtained from the CDC’s National Center for Health Statistics Mortality Surveillance System website, total U.S. deaths for the first three weeks of March are DOWN 10% from the average of the prior four years for the same three week period.
The average for weeks 9 through 11 for the four prior years was a total of 170,555 deaths. For weeks 9 through 11 this year, the total is 153,015, meaning 17,540 fewer people died in America during the first three weeks of March than could be reasonably expected. And the gap between historic deaths and weekly deaths is widening. For week 11, just 47,655 Americans died, 8,773 and 15% fewer than the average for week 11 in the prior four years. And while data on week 12 is not complete, it is trending similar to week 11 and will likely be down by 15% (around 8,700 deaths less than expected) even though 1,919 COVID-19 deaths were reported (in week beginning 3/22).
Now after deaths for the entire month of March are reported, the results show that deaths in the US this March are 15% less than the average of the past four years!”

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
April 8, 2020 8:36 pm

Also– 2018 death cause ranks–notice the totals average per year:

4. Chronic lower respiratory diseases
Number of deaths per year: 154,596
Percent of total deaths: 5.6 percent
More common among:
women
people over age 65
people with a history of smoking or exposure to secondhand smoke
people with a history of asthma
individuals in lower-income households

8. Influenza and pneumonia
Number of deaths per year: 51,537
Percent of total deaths: 1.88 percent
More common among:
children
the elderly
people with chronic health conditions
pregnant women

That’s over 200,000 annual deaths from flu, pneumonia or respiratory issues.. makes Corona a perfect candidate for bloating numbers with all of these deaths to mis-attribute.

NOTE: these are only US deaths– the global numbers for respiratory related deaths annually are in the millions..

Ben Lurken
Ben Lurken
  Anonymous
April 9, 2020 9:07 am

CDC website has that. You are correct. Total deaths are going down each week. As are deaths from pneumonia and influenza.
https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/mortality.html