Coronavirus Crisis Reopens 150-Year-Old Controversy

Submitted by Vixen Vic

Guest Post by Karen Selick

I look at the coronavirus crisis differently from most people. To me, it’s the reopening of a 150-year-old scientific controversy that much of the western world has forgotten.

French scientist Louis Pasteur (1822-1895) is widely celebrated as “the father of germ theory”— the idea that we become sick when our bodies are invaded by foreign organisms such as bacteria, molds, fungi, and of course viruses. Although the idea had been circulating long before Pasteur achieved eminence, his laboratory work in the 1860s appeared to provide the scientific proof that had previously been missing.

What’s not widely known is that other French scientists working in the same field in that era held somewhat different beliefs, known as the “terrain theory”. They believed that the most important factor that determines whether or not a person becomes ill is not the presence of a germ, but rather the preparedness of the body’s internal environment (the “soil” or terrain) to repel or destroy the germ.

One of  the main terrain-theory scientists was Antoine Béchamp (1816-1908). Pasteur and Béchamp were bitter rivals over several scientific issues. The book Pasteur: Plagiarist, Imposter (R. B. Pearson, 1942) even suggests that Pasteur plagiarized some of his work from Béchamp—no doubt a sore point with the latter, who ultimately died in obscurity. Pasteur, by contrast, became a skilled self-promoter who literally managed to make his name a household word long past the time of his death.

The other main proponent of the terrain theory was Claude Bernard (1813-1878), who (notwithstanding their differences of opinion on scientific issues) was a close friend and associate of Pasteur’s. At the end of his life, Pasteur is said to have recognized the importance of what Bernard had been trying to tell him, remarking, “Bernard avait raison. Le germ n’est rien, c’est le terrain qui est tout.” (Bernard was right. The germ is nothing, it’s the soil that is everything.)

In 1982, French scholar Marie Nonclercq published her doctoral thesis on Béchamp, alleging that Pasteur was not only a plagiarist but also a fraud and falsifier of experimental data. But regardless of Pasteur’s character, and regardless of whether he recanted at the end or not, what lives on after him is the mindset, clearly visible amongst most of today’s medical professionals and health care bureaucrats, that it is the germ (formally designated SARS-CoV-2) that has to be tracked down, isolated, avoided, and eradicated—and that’s all that matters. The “terrain”, to conventional modern thinkers, is nothing.

For instance, on the Ontario government’s website telling its citizens what to do about COVID-19, its advice consists entirely of measures designed to prevent people from coming in contact with the virus: stay home, wash your hands often, don’t touch your face, maintain physical distancing and wear a mask when you have to go out.

No mention is made of any measures individuals can take to ensure their immune systems are operating at peak efficiency (or as the French scientists would have put it, their terrain is well prepared to mount a defence). It’s almost as though the Ontario government doesn’t believe human beings have immune systems or that they’re of any use whatsoever. The only hope, Ontario seems to believe, is for a pharmaceutical company to patent a vaccine, because that is the only way that human beings can defend themselves against a virus, or acquire immunity.

In fact, Ontario and Canada have gone out of their way to discourage people from looking for methods of helping themselves. Ontario’s website says “there is no specific treatment” for COVID-19. End of story. Canada’s government-owned broadcasting company, the CBC, recently published this article denouncing “bogus cures” including vitamin C, zinc, medicinal mushrooms and oil of oregano.

This official attitude is utter nonsense—there is actually an abundance of scientific evidence supporting various nutritional supplements as being instrumental in preparing people’s immune systems to repel or overcome viral infections.

Take zinc, for example. Many COVID-19 patients have mentioned as symptoms the loss of their senses of smell and taste. According to the BBC, these symptoms affects as many as 18 percent of infected patients. This CNN article says that some people  will take days or weeks to recover these senses after having the virus, while others may take months or years.

But the loss of these senses is a well-established symptom of zinc deficiency, a fact not mentioned in either of the two articles cited, and apparently not known to most of the mainstream medical community. Yet here is a PubMed study connecting zinc deficiencies with “smell and taste disturbances”. Here’s one specifically connecting “older patients” with zinc deficiencies and loss of acuity in the senses of taste and smell. Both of these studies also mention that zinc deficiencies lead to impaired immune function or an increased risk of infection. Can medical “experts” and governments not connect the dots?

Vitamin D is another nutrient (a hormone, actually) well recognized by scientists to have antiviral benefits. Google Scholar lists 3,670 research reports published in 2020 alone containing the words “vitamin D” and “virus”.

But rather than recommending adequate amounts of vitamin D to Canadians, Health Canada has for many years discouraged people from supplementing with it. “Most Canadians are getting enough vitamin D” says this government website, recommending only that people over 50 might want to take the paltry amount of 400 international units (IU) daily. Other Canadian governments pages recommend slightly more—this one, for instance, which says adults over 70 should take up to 800 IU daily. Never do their recommendations come even close to those of the Vitamin D Society, a consortium of scientists who study this subject. Their FAQ brochure recommends at least 4,000 IU daily to maintain a healthy serum vitamin D level.

But it gets worse. Vitamin D is actually free, if people would only go outdoors in the summer and expose their skin appropriately to the sun. These days, there are even cell phone apps that tell you when the sun is in the right position for your location, how long you should stay out, and how much of your body needs to be exposed in order to get the right dosage. The apps can also be used to determine how to prevent a burn.

Instead of telling Canadians how to get this free vitamin, Health Canada has told them for years to do exactly the opposite: to slather on sunscreen every time they go outdoors in summer and never to expose their skin to the sun.

How many Canadians have died, and will continue to die, of unnecessary health ailments (including COVID-19) because their government has given them this extraordinarily bad advice?

Americans are no better off. The National Institutes of Health fact sheet on vitamin D recommends the same 800 IU maximum that Canada recommends. And it says, “The American Academy of Dermatology advises that photoprotective measures be taken, including the use of sunscreen, whenever one is exposed to the sun.”

That’s no surprise, really. The US government is bedded down even more cozily than the Canadian government with the pharmaceutical companies who will eventually be licenced to produce the sacred vaccine.

But while Pasteur’s germ-theory mindset reigns in officialdom, savvy consumers seem to be following Béchamp and Bernard, without ever having heard of them. Vitamin C, zinc lozenges, and more exotic supplements such as monolaurin (a derivative of coconut oil which in laboratory tests destroys the viral envelope in a manner similar to soap) have been flying off store shelves. Online sellers can’t keep them in stock as word spreads among the public that there’s more they can do than merely trust their governments.

Epidemiologists busily debate the pros and cons of lockdowns and masks in controlling the spread of the virus, but I have yet to see a single report of anyone who has thought to compare the serum vitamin D levels of those who succumbed, versus those who recovered, versus those who have never become infected. This is the sort of data they should be looking at, but imbued with the germ-theory mindset, they are allowing this valuable information to slip away.

I hope this article will change that.

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78 Comments
Didius Julianus
Didius Julianus
April 21, 2020 6:30 pm

But, but, but… “the science is settled.”

Thanks for posting this, the science is never settled and too bad so many don’t realize that.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Didius Julianus
April 21, 2020 10:39 pm

Thank you, Didius.

ICE-9
ICE-9
April 21, 2020 6:34 pm

Biggest killer of them all is laziness and the sedentary life. But that is called “Freedom” in the USA. Don’t know the Canadian euphemism.

~L
~L
April 21, 2020 6:58 pm

Thx for the reminder kick in the shins, VV.
This was a good post.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  ~L
April 21, 2020 10:39 pm

I’m glad you liked the article, L.

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
April 21, 2020 7:19 pm

Louie PASTEUR’s deathbed words: “Bernard was right; the pathogen is nothing; the terrain is everything.”

Sam Fox
Sam Fox
  ILuvCO2
April 23, 2020 7:52 pm

ILuv, I’d say both. We must keep the germs & stuff out, but if & when some get in, good ‘soil’ is a must. Thanks to VVIc for the article. I got some good tips for my soil. Also garlic & cinnamon help with our immune systems. I just recently added zinc to my supplements. Get plenty of sun in my state.

realestatepup
realestatepup
April 21, 2020 7:42 pm

I’ve spoken before about my own experience with high-dose liposomal Vitamin C. Recovered from Legionnaire’s pneumonia (caught from a shitty Las Vegas Hotel, AC condensers on roofs are notorious reservoirs of this pathogen) with 3000 mg of liquid Vitamin C every 5 minutes until fever broke, then every 15 minutes for another 8 hours. Recovered in 3 days, zero antibiotics. I had a fever of 103 and was delirious prior to starting C.
I have taken it for Strep and bronchitis. Yes, you will absolutely have diarrhea but who cares? If you are sick, the “saturation” level of tissues before you actually get the diarrhea is much higher. Stay hydrated.
Standard vitamin C pills do zero and are basically eliminated through the urine without having much effect on the illness.
I do not, and will not, use sunscreen of any kind. Stay out of high-noon sun, and use coconut oil on burns if they occur.
I believe I had this covid shit way back in December, I had all the symptoms. Took C, recovered in my usual 3 days although the horrible, dry wracking cough lingered for another week.
“Health Care” in the US has zero to do with actual health., or anyone caring, for that matter. It’s a churning money machine meant to enrich the insurance companies and the pharmaceutical manufacturers.
There is no incentive for folks to take charge of their own actual health. All the conflicting BS about cholesterol, fats, grains, etc shows this to be true.
And despite tons of evidence that cholesterol drugs SHOULD NOT be prescribed, they still are. They cause harm to those that take them, and in my opinion, and based on my own research, are the leading cause of the spike in Alzheimers disease and other dementia illnesses.
The inserts on all drugs reads like a horror story, and the side effects are often much worse than the actual thing you are taking them for, and in some cases, cause death.
Americans are so lazy and scared that they think some person in a white coat magically has the little pill to cure what ails them.
But unless you are a surgeon, what you learn in medical school can pretty much be learned all by yourself. It’s anatomy, and everyone has it.
What docs need to learn in medical school is pharmaceutical application. In other words, how to figure out which pill to match with what symptom, not advise the patient how to get off their fat ass, stop eating crap, and exercise.
Almost all health problems are self-inflicted due to poor lifestyle choices, like smoking, drinking, eating crap, and obesity.
Yes, some things are genetic but that still does not mean a death sentence.

Didius Julianus
Didius Julianus
  realestatepup
April 21, 2020 8:33 pm

Do you have easy access to IV Vitamin C so you did that when you had what you now think is Covid or do you take some form of Vitamin C orally and if so, what form do you take that you consider useful? Thanks.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Didius Julianus
April 21, 2020 8:59 pm

He mentions Liposomal Vit-C. Generally this is in a liquid form although some do put the liquid in a “capsule.” By being encased in a lipid outer “shell,” the vitamin C is absorbed differently, and higher doses can be taken without the typical diarrhea that accompanies high doses of C in either pill or powder form (like ascorbic acid, etc).

Didius Julianus
Didius Julianus
  MrLiberty
April 21, 2020 9:05 pm

Thanks, I misread that as IV. 🙂

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Didius Julianus
April 22, 2020 12:07 am

Didius, if you have holistic doctors in your area, whether M.D. or not, you can receive I.V. Vitamin C as a treatment. You just have to find the ones in your area. Check the Internet. But liposomal Vitamin C can be a great treatment. You can even buy it on Amazon.

(EC)
(EC)
  MrLiberty
April 22, 2020 12:45 am

Puppers is a she.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  (EC)
April 22, 2020 12:57 am

E.C., where is Mags?

(EC)
(EC)
  Vixen Vic
April 22, 2020 11:03 am

She’s turned into Rambo lately. She pops in once in a while as M G, Martha Garu or Paulita, see Used Cars.

Didius Julianus
Didius Julianus
  realestatepup
April 21, 2020 8:36 pm

Amazing how some people are not motivated to learn and understand basics to keep up their health, logically one’s life should be enough to motivate but as we see all around us it is not. Your approach/understadning sounds fairly similar to mine for staying healthy.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Didius Julianus
April 22, 2020 6:08 am

Yes, Didius, itsounds like we’re on the same page for health.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  realestatepup
April 21, 2020 10:51 pm

realestatepup, thank you so much for sharing your experiences. My ex husband also thinks he had this last winter. He was diagnosed with flu. He actually fainted because of it and woke up on the kitchen floor and immediately called me. He was so weak, my son had to go to Myrtle Beach and stay with him and help him. He was weak for two weeks before starting to regain strength. He is on BP medication and heart disease runs in his family, not to mention he was recently diagnosed as pre-diabetic. I believe all of that was the reason he caught it.
I don’t go to physicians or use pharmaceuticals. If I broke a leg or have appendicitis, yeah, I’ll seek a physician. Anything else, nah.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Vixen Vic
April 21, 2020 11:56 pm

It wasn’t here before late January, so it’s pretty unlikely he had covid.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Iska Waran
April 22, 2020 12:15 am

They don’t know when it began. They’re still trying to figure out where and when it started. Some say if started in Europe, not China. Some say it just started, some say it started way before that.
My own opinion, maybe in the minority, is that it’s a strain of flu and it’s been here since last flu season. I could be wrong, who knows.
But the point is, the “experts” don’t know yet. It’s still being investigated. Of course, there’s always the possibility it was a biological weapon (which I don’t agree with yet without further evidence.) Then it’s the question of when and where it was released.

(EC)
(EC)
  Vixen Vic
April 22, 2020 1:05 am

Now they say the mutations will be worse. Just when I was beginning to believe the deniers.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  (EC)
April 22, 2020 1:18 am

E.C., usually, mutations make a virus less lethal but there are also arguments about that.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  (EC)
April 22, 2020 10:31 am

What is the difference between a denier and a questioner?

(EC)
(EC)
  Mary Christine
April 22, 2020 11:05 am

We are all questioners, a denier insists it is just the flu.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  (EC)
April 22, 2020 11:36 am

It’s just a cold.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  (EC)
April 22, 2020 12:33 pm

Then I’m a denier based on your logic because I say it’s a strain of the flu.

Didius Julianus
Didius Julianus
  Vixen Vic
April 22, 2020 2:30 am

I think it has been around longer for sure due to other people with those kinds of symptoms. If you want to get really speculating, look up the US couple that went to Fiji around last May and had something like the very bad version of it, they were only in their 30s, apparently good shape and died in Fiji and lots of weird events about their deaths and even their bodies being shipped back to the US.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  gatsby1219
April 22, 2020 6:04 am

That article is very interesting, gastby1219. That’s what I’m talking about. It could have been around much sooner than people actually think. Thank you so much for that contribution to the conversation.

(EC)
(EC)
  Vixen Vic
April 22, 2020 1:01 am

Pre-diabetic is like saying pre-alcoholic. It means the person is getting close to losing control. An alcoholic cannot drink just one drink and a diabetic cannot regulate blood sugar anymore. That’s the only difference between diabetic and pre-diabetic. I was peeing every 15 minutes and thought nothing of it until I lost all control and I had to pee immediately after drinking the water I so badly needed right then and there.

Metabolic syndrome is the gradual loss of all defenses, because the blood is loaded down with sugar – glucose. It’s a lot like AIDS in that respect and the person becomes susceptible to a lot of crap; cold, flu, cough, that doesn’t bother regular folks.

Like the article says, doctors begin to repeat common lines like you don’t need vitamin X supplements; they have been repeating the line that you don’t need an antibiotic for the flu. I said this before: Dr B (D.O.) explained that an antibiotic is needed to fight the opportunistic bacteria that invade the body weakened by the flu virus. He said the bacteria will leave you feeling like you got hit by a freight train. That was in the 80’s when I was crawling around the house and sleeping on the floor because I couldn’t get up onto the bed.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  (EC)
April 22, 2020 1:21 am

Doctors said my ex was pre-diabetic but he was what I call borderline. I instructed him on the Keto diet and sent him links to Dr Berg and others on the diet. He’s been following it and his blood sugar is fine now. Hopefully, it stays that way.

(EC)
(EC)
  Vixen Vic
April 22, 2020 11:09 am

First wives are angels in disguise.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  (EC)
April 22, 2020 12:39 pm

E.C., I still love my ex. But that doesn’t mean we can life together in peace. He’ll have my heart as long as we’re alive.
Edit: I left him so I’m not pining. But I’ll love him for eternity.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
April 21, 2020 8:56 pm

I read this on LewRockwell yesterday and being a scientist, it has been going through my head ever since. I had no idea that there was actually this controversy. I have NEVER believed that a bug that existed on this planet was ever so inherently powerful that the health of the patient did not matter one bit. I have come to now realize that the vast majority of people are so grossly uneducated, so grossly brainwashed by any asshole with a lab coat on or a Ph.D. after their name, that they truly believe that whether you die of this virus is more about “chance” than anything else, and that anyone who catches it will only survive if luck in on their side. How truly fucked up is that? Of course health matters. Of course the condition of the patient matters. But then the lie that health has nothing to do with it has been told about cancer, heart disease, diabetes, and virtually every other health-related illness our species now suffers from.

The sheer fact that the basic issue of vitamin D deficiencies in blacks versus whites because of melanin cannot ever be raised by anyone, should tell every black how little the medical establishment and bigPharma gives a shit about their health. Our local county “officials” held a virtual forum about a week ago to discuss why so many blacks were getting and dying of the virus (mostly black county, nearly all black county commission, etc.). Of course the conclusion was racism, how 400 years of slavery have permanently made blacks less healthy, limited access to worthless western medicine, and other bullshit. When the question of supplements, nutrition, etc. was raised and asked, both a useless white doctor and a useless black doctor both said that nothing could help make you healthy to fight this, but that healthier individuals seemed to fair better, and that getting out and exercising and “being healthy” was the best thing everyone could do.

Ropes all around.

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
  MrLiberty
April 21, 2020 10:16 pm

Reminds me to take my 50,000 UI Vitamin D supp. before bed, thanks.

Steve
Steve
  ILuvCO2
April 22, 2020 9:23 am

ILuv, 
Look into taking Magnesium with the D. I was low and RXed for 2 months a high dose. 2 months later, still low. Ah-ha. Mg is needed to uptake the D. Fine now!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  MrLiberty
April 21, 2020 10:41 pm

The virus is a protein, not a bug; bacteria are bugs.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Anonymous
April 21, 2020 11:18 pm

Well, bug or protein, you know what I mean. Everyone is different genetically, everyone is different biochemically, and everyone is different with regards to levels of nutrients in their body.

Just seems pretty basic. You buy a plant and they tell you the type of soil it does best in or what you need to do to improve crappy soils (like GA red clay). When you plant a garden, you don’t just shove a seed into whatever crap soil you have lying around. You give the soil additional nutrition in the form of compost, specific mineral nutrients, etc. to get the best, healthiest plants. Just more of the common sense that is so desperately lacking.

BigPharma would have you believe that a disease is caused by a lack of their overpriced wonder drug, when truly, the disease found a “ripe” environment because of a lack of some nutritionally-essential natural compound/mineral, etc.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  MrLiberty
April 22, 2020 12:20 am

Great comparison, Mr. Liberty. I’m a Dechamp believer, it’s the terrain, not the germ.

Just a Medic
Just a Medic
  Anonymous
April 22, 2020 10:18 am

The virus is a protein…

False. The virus is a snippet of nucleic acids. Commonly the nucleic acids are packaged inside a sac or web or clump of glycoproteins with elaborate quaternary structure. Mr. Anonymous earns an F in molecular biology.

Doctors use “bug” synonymously with “microbe.” Microbes include bacteria, fungi, viruses, prions, etc. Mr. Anonymous earns an F in medical microbiology also. Get lost.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Just a Medic
April 22, 2020 12:44 pm

Thank you so much for our input, Just a Medic. The science of this is always appreciated.

Mygirl....Maybe
Mygirl....Maybe
  Anonymous
April 22, 2020 11:52 am

The virus is a protein, not a bug; bacteria are bugs.

Dear God, that is a remarkably ignorant statement. Viruses ARE NOT PROTEIN. Prions are proteins, prion diseases are untreatable and ALWAYS fatal. Prions cannot be destroyed in an autoclave, they are deadly.

Prion
Prions are misfolded proteins with the ability to transmit their misfolded shape onto normal variants of the same protein. They characterize several fatal and transmissible neurodegenerative diseases in humans and many other animals. It is not known what causes the normal protein to misfold, but the abnormal three-dimensional structure is suspected of conferring infectious properties, collapsing nearby protein molecules into the same shape. The word prion derives from “proteinaceous infectious particle”. The hypothesized role of a protein as an infectious agent stands in contrast to all other known infectious agents such as viruses, bacteria, fungi and parasites, all of which contain nucleic acids (DNA, RNA or both).

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  MrLiberty
April 21, 2020 10:55 pm

I agree completely with your assessment, Mr. Liberty.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  MrLiberty
April 22, 2020 12:09 am

A smoker who never exercises and consumes loads of carbs, saturated fats, and sugars is on the road to being overweight, diabetic, and DEAD faster than they realize.
That isn’t racist, it’s reality. A virus is blind to skin color. For the life of me I’ll never understand how people could ignore their lousy health and poor immunity being irrlevant. Ignoring it defies common sense.
My stepmother had atherosclerosis due to zero exercise, non-stop chain smoking, and a constant diet of coffee. She also had hypothyroidism, hypertension, and prescriptions for Librium, Xanax, and even blood thinners. The drugs would be broken in half doses to minimize her side effects and satisfy her excuse that the medicines were too expensive. She was a walking time bomb and dead at 53, a perfect candidate for secondary complications from a serious illness. She had little more than sixth grade education, no idea of what an antioxidant might’ve been or how to spell it.

So black people are dying at higher rates. Gee, I wonder why.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Anonymous
April 22, 2020 12:56 am

Blacks are dying at a higher rate because of the crap food they eat. They’ve never been instructed on how to cook, which their mothers never taught them, and they don’t eat properly. Food corporations have been lobbying for years to allow EBT users access to buy more and more of the crap food they produce. (Bring back home economics, I say.)
Being a smoker does not mean you’ll die early, by the way. I’ve been a smoker since age 15 and, in my last chest x-ray, and after having to tell them I’m a smoker, I was told I have extraordinarily clear lungs, which they considered “odd.” But then again, I roll my own cigarettes from natural tobacco without addititives. I believe the additives in cigarettes are the problem, not tobacco itself. But that’s a whole other argument.
It all depends on the individual, their amount of exercise and their diet, the “terrain.”
By the way, saturated fat is actually good for you. Both your heart and brain rely on it. Vegetable oils should NEVER be heated. They’re detrimental to your health.
Our ancestors thrived on saturated fats. You should, too.

Gen X Nomad
Gen X Nomad
  Vixen Vic
April 22, 2020 3:36 am

Can you please tell me what RYO tobacco you recommend? Thank you!

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Gen X Nomad
April 22, 2020 4:50 am

I buy my tobacco, either in bulk or a few bags at a time, from smokersoutletonline.com. I’ve been buying from this company a long time and highly recommend them.
I buy the “Golden Harvest” natural (yellow bag) tobacco. There are others that also claim to be natural but I’ve used this brand a long time and trust the company so haven’t ventured out. I also buy the Golden Harvest tubes (with filter) simply because I like them. There are multiple brands of tubes and tobacco you can choose from.
And there’s plenty of traditionally-flavored pipe tobacco brands for those who prefer pipes.
The tobacco I buy is considered pipe tobacco, but is “plain” and can be used for home-rolling cigarettes. By designating it as pipe tobacco rather than cigarette tobacco, you don’t get hit with the extra taxes. The tobacco is cut longer than cigarette tobacco but works just fine in all tobacco-loading machines.
They also have a wide selection of tobacco-loading machines, from the cheap slides that cost less than $20, to manual machines at about $50, and electric machines at about $80 or $90. I have one of each but added several of the less than $20 slides in my stockpile just in case.
I hope this info is useful for you, Gen. I do highly recommend the site and their products. As I’ve said, I’ve been buying from them for a long time.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Vixen Vic
April 22, 2020 10:37 am

I swear, Vic, years ago it was reported that nicotine was found to be a sort of protection against Alzheimer’s Disease which is what killed my mother.

I do remember them saying that they were NOT encouraging people to take up smoking to prevent Alzheimer’s..lol! It was so long ago I don’t remember what prompted them to report how the study was done or why.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  (EC)
April 22, 2020 11:34 am

Lol! Enemas can be had in all kinds of ways.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Mary Christine
April 22, 2020 12:55 pm

I honestly don’t think tobacco is the demon they say is; Brand-name cigarettes maybe, but home-made, I don’t think so.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Mary Christine
April 22, 2020 1:22 pm

That’s just weird. The medical establishment is always contradicting itself. I don’t consider them trustworthy.

Gen X Nomad
Gen X Nomad
  Vixen Vic
April 22, 2020 1:04 pm

Thank you very much for taking the time to respond. I’ll check it out. I’ve already acquired a rolling machine and tubes, and have been trying to decide what tobacco to buy. A lot of people online also seem to like the natural (unflavored) OHM tobacco, so I may order a small bag of that as well to try. I just can’t keep paying seven bucks a pack for cigarettes — apart from my concerns about supply being disrupted. My next pandemic homesteader project will be figuring out a steady beer supply 🙂

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Gen X Nomad
April 22, 2020 2:30 pm

Gen, with a pound bag of tobacco and three boxes of tubes, I can make a minimum two and half cartons. So I’m paying about $30 for 2.5 cartons compared to about $150 for three cartons of marketed cigarettes. And that’s because of taxes.
OMH and American both have good flavor but they’res hard to roll in the electric cigarette machines due to multiple stems. That’s one reason I like Golden Harvest, less stems to deal with and good flavor.
You should try small amounts of the tobaccos you’re interested in and experiment and see what you really like.
I’m actually thinking of buying tobacco seeds to grow my own. Who knows what will happen in the future.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Vixen Vic
April 22, 2020 5:54 pm

Actually they are likely dying because their dark skin prevents ALL vitamin D formation during winter time, and allows for less production than for whites even during the summer time. In NYC, you can be naked all day if black, and not get even 1 IU of vit. D produced during winter. So without supplementation, you are screwed when a virus shows up. Some have speculated that the reason so many in Canada get MS is because the northern latitudes mean much lower vit. D levels from sunshine, despite nearly everyone being white. But heaven forbid any health official, black “leader,” race baiter, or other clown they listen to, should tell them about this truth and encourage vitamin D supplementation (or even start a business or charity handout of the stuff).

Mygirl....Maybe
Mygirl....Maybe
  MrLiberty
April 22, 2020 11:42 am

There are diseases like rabies, bubonic plague, dengue, yellow fever, hantha virus, ebola, tuberculosis, cholera, spongiform encephalopathies and several others of that ilk that are not going to be cured or staved off by ingesting vitamin C, D, E or whatever else comes to mind. Massive doses of fat soluble vitamins can lead to serious toxicities in the liver, blood and elsewhere.

That said, very little attention is paid to the role of proper nutrition in maintaining health and disease mitigation. Our immune systems are what keep us healthy, barring exposure to some of the aforementioned diseases which are so virulent that only immediate medical intervention can hopefully prevent fatalities. If I am bitten by a rabid animal I can guarantee that I won’t be self treating with vitamins.

More isn’t always better and common sense is key (and uncommon) If you think you have deficiencies there are tests that can ascertain what they are and if you have them. The RDA was established to insure no deficiencies were created and set at lower guidelines to avoid toxicity problems. Lack of certain vitamins results in diseases such as pellagra and rickets. There is another consideration regarding vitamins, that being fortified foods. Those must be taken into account when measuring vitamin doses.

Fat-Soluble Vitamins: A, D, E, and K – 9.315

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
April 21, 2020 9:14 pm

May as well nail this to the doors of the Wittenberg Church.

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
  Hardscrabble Farmer
April 21, 2020 10:17 pm
Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Hardscrabble Farmer
April 22, 2020 7:26 am

Could be revolutionary.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
April 21, 2020 10:43 pm

If I miss any of your comments, I apologize in advance. As Admin can attest, Comcast is not allowing me to receive subscription confirmation e-mails for article comments to which I subscribe. I’m hoping this problem will go away. If not, I’ll have to get a g-mail account so I can see the comments.

Edit: In others words, as Admin said, Comcast said TBP bad and blacklisted.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
April 21, 2020 11:02 pm

Maggie, where are you? Haven’t heard from you in a while. Hope you’ll comment.

Selenium Rectifier
Selenium Rectifier
April 21, 2020 11:49 pm

About a month ago someone here mentioned that Ebola was prevalent in African and Asian areas that had selenium deficient soil. There was not much discussion, though one comment later poo-poohed the idea that selenium might help. Upon further review, it turns out that there is a band going diagonally across China where selenium deficient soil exists. And Hubei Provence is right in the middle of that band. My theory: because viruses are highly adaptable they build defensive mechanisms partially based on their environment. Some viruses are what are known as enveloped, which simply means they have a lipid (i.e., fat) coating for protection. Destroy the coating and the virus becomes weakened to the point it is no longer a viable threat for most and will be flushed by a reasonably healthy body. Note: corona viruses are enveloped. That is why hand washing with soap (soap is a lipid solvent) works so well. Other viruses are not enveloped and are notably more resilient-apparently they have different defensive mechanisms.

Back to the theory: most of the recent corona viruses in the last 20 years developed in China in areas with selenium deficient soil. And then there is Ebola from Africa-same story about the poor soil. Anyway, if the virus develops where there is some “ingredient” missing then the virus does not develop a response to that “ingredient”-no matter whether the “ingredient” would exhibit a positive or a negative influence on the progression of the virus. The discovery of the causes of Keshan Disease in China during the 1970s is influential to the theory: selenium deficient soil leads to selenium deficiency in human tissue which is apparently necessary for certain viruses to attack; in the case of Keshan it is a mutated strain of Coxsackievirus that causes an often fatal condition. Selenium was added to the diets of people living in the Keshan area and the disease went away.

Since the Ebola event studies have suggested that the micro-nutrient selenium acts to boost the immune system in ways that are similar to other more common supplements like zinc. The linked article briefly discusses the link between the lipid layer and selenium’s anti-viral characteristics. For me-especially since I have a propensity to over clot (and because corona viruses cause hemorrhage)-I have chosen to increase my immunity specifically with extra dietary selenium as well as selenium supplements. Caveat empetor: if you choose the same path spend some time studying how to raise your selenium level some, but not too much. Start with the RDA of 55 micrograms and keep in mind the upper limit of 400 micrograms. However, should I come down with what seems to be COVID-19 you can bet I’ll be munching a fist full of Brazil nuts 2X daily (6-8 nuts can contain up to 10X the RDA of selenium).

https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2017/08/30/the-evolutionary-reason-why-the-ebola-virus-is-so-deadly/#6647d0dd562c

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Selenium Rectifier
April 22, 2020 12:32 am

Selenium Rectifier, thank you so much for your comment. I think that will be helpful to other people. We all need to share the knowledge we’ve come across on ways to treat illnesses and inform about nutritional deficiencies and the problems those deficiencies cause. Perhaps additional supplements of trace minerals will also be helpful. Correct nutrition is essential to beat illness.

Didius Julianus
Didius Julianus
  Selenium Rectifier
April 22, 2020 2:40 am

Another “nut” to eat (OK, a seed) are apricot seeds, preferably bitter ones. Eat 2 or 3 a day as a maintenance dose. “Vitamin B17”, very anti-cancer and who knows what other good micro-nutrients. Can be toxic if you eat LOTS of the seeds as one of the metabolites is cyanide. The good out weighs the bad, I have 2 or so every day. I have read that people treating their cancers eat up to 20 or so a day and can tolerate that amount. These nutrient is also in apple seeds (not sure about some of the newest varieties since they are so modified or GMO though).

I think “an apple a day keeps the doctor way” came about in large part because a long time ago people used to eat the seeds and all and were getting their B17 that way. When dogs eat “grass” they are instinctively finding the types of grass that have B17, very missing from their diets. Every wonder why so many dogs these days get cancer like people? The factory S**t thy are fed, even “quality” dog foods are severely deficient in a number of micro-nutrients.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Didius Julianus
April 22, 2020 5:17 am

I say you are correct, Didius. I’ve read that people of the past ate the core and the seeds of apples, which helped keep them healthy. I’m all in for using Vitamin B17, also named Laetrile or Amygdalin. There’s a lot of research that says it effectively treats cancer and i’s good for your immune system.
The fed gov stopped the import of bitter almonds. Many believe it was because they know people use it for treating cancer, which hurts Big Pharma. But it would be hard for them to stop people from using apricot seeds or apple seeds instead.
There’s a book call “The Little Cyanide Cookbook” that outlines foods that contain Vitamin B17 and how much, along with recipes. It may be a good idea to buy that.

SR
SR
  Vixen Vic
April 24, 2020 3:10 am

I wondered why Bing cherry seeds (as well as peach seeds, and others) take forever to decompose in my little garden. Come to find out that the innards of the cherry seeds contain or give off cyanide. I had cracked one open to see what was inside and if it was edible; forget how that experiment went, but as I remember the pit did not have a good taste.

Side note/interesting trivia about brazil nuts (really they are seeds) and their exceptionally hard shell: “The outer casing of the fruit is so hard that only one known animal—the agouti, a large rodent with sharp, chisel-like teeth—can crack it open”. Guessing that there must be a good reason why seeds/pits with hard shells are that way. I routinely work my garden’s soil as I add mulch and always find plenty of cherry pits from previous years, though I have not a clue how long it normally takes them to break down.

Does “The Little Cyanide Cookbook” say anything about pits with hard shells?

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
April 22, 2020 12:08 am

Vitamin D, vitamin C, selenium. Been taking them all. Zinc inhibits the ability of coronavirus to replicate, but it needs a zinc ionophore to assist it across the plasma barrier into the cell. Hydroxychloroquine is a zinc ionophore, but so are quercetin (a nutritional supplement) and ECGC – a compound found in green tea. I’ve been taking zinc + quercetin, and drinking a bit of green tea.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Iska Waran
April 22, 2020 1:06 am

Good advice, Iska. This is the type of advice I want to see people relaying to each other. Show us what you’re doing to stay healthy. Show us what you’ve learned from experts and studies. We can all benefit from that advice.

Selenium Rectifier
Selenium Rectifier
  Vixen Vic
April 22, 2020 2:29 am

The more I study various research reports the more it becomes apparent that viruses have the equivalent of multiple achilles heels as far as certain nutritional compounds having the ability to target one part of the virus’ genome and stopping its ability to replicate. Sort of like a sniper getting a good head shot at 600 yards.

FWIW-selenium rectifiers were developed very early in the solid state portion of the Electronic Age. Compared to modern day rectifiers they were inefficient, over sized, and unreliable. I still remember the Mission Impossible scene when Barney (played by Greg Morris) was replacing a bad selenium rectifier by soldering in a good one-time was ticking away and the solder was flowing with the soldering gun hidden in a cloud of smoke. Just as the clock ticked to zero Barney nodded to Willy (Peter Lupus) who flipped the switch to turn the machine on and save the day.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Selenium Rectifier
April 22, 2020 5:20 am

Very interesting.

Connovar
Connovar
April 22, 2020 5:58 am

Look up Medcram 59

talks about Vit C & Vit D

Really good article

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Connovar
April 22, 2020 6:46 am

That was a good video.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
April 22, 2020 10:45 am

Vic used to pepper articles with her comments after almost everyone else. I think that was BC (Before Coronavirus). Today I take up that slack. I was busy all day and evening yesterday. Thanks for posting this, Vic. Very interesting and something they will never teach you in school. I sent it to my nurse daughter who is always interested in alternative medicine.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Mary Christine
April 22, 2020 1:47 pm

Mary Christine, I’m always late responding to articles because I work late and can’t respond right away. But I always appreciate your comments because you’re level headed. And I’m glad to hear your nurse daughter is interested in alternative medicine. She’ll benefit from both worlds.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Vixen Vic
April 22, 2020 3:20 pm

I think she will, too, Vic. She is a lot like me as far as questioning everything. She is one year into her duties as a nurse and quite surprised that the job security she thought she would have is now threatened because they may start closing hospitals if they don’t start opening them up to elective surgery soon. I told her that her skills would still be needed in a black market;)

(EC)
(EC)
April 22, 2020 6:30 pm

This has been the most pleasant thread ever. VV has no fear of being taken off topic and follows a conversation wherever it may lead with admirable transparency. I’m reminded of Admin and LLPOH in the olden days proffering the gentlemanly courtesy of a reply that Stucky practiced long after others forgot what that was. Kudos!

Sam Fox
Sam Fox
April 23, 2020 9:01 pm

When taking vitamin & mineral supplements be sure to get natural as opposed to synthetic. Man made stuff can stimulate one’s ‘soil’, but can’t feed it. The difference between natural/organic & synthetic isn’t so much a molecular structure/chemical difference, it’s a biological difference. Also synthetics don’t contain what are called associated food factors (aka -transporters and co-factors). Associated food factors are the natural ‘support team’ that supports the ‘star’ of the show. AFF’s come in natural food but not from test tubes.

https://globalhealing.com/natural-health/synthetic-vs-natural-vitamins/

https://sunwarrior.com/blogs/health-hub/whole-food-vitamins-vs-synthetic-vitamins-the-difference-may-astonish-you

SamFox