Authored by Victor Davis Hanson via NationalReview.com,
In a flash, it’s been blown away, revealing the barbarism beneath. The seeds of destruction were planted long ago…
Nine months ago, New York was a thriving, though poorly governed, metropolis. It was coasting on the more or less good governance of its prior two mayors and on its ancestral role as the global nexus of finance and capital.
The city is now something out of a postmodern apocalyptic movie, reeling from the effects of a neutron bomb. Ditto in varying degrees Minneapolis, Portland, Seattle, and San Francisco — the anti-broken-windows metropolises of America. Walking in San Francisco today reminds me of visiting Old Cairo in 1973, although the latter lacked the needles and feces of the former.
At the present increasing rate of police defunding, homeless encampments, the emptying of jails and prisons, the green-lighting of rioting and vandalism, the flight of the wealthy, the revolutionary change to Skype/Zoom tele-working, and the exodus of upper-middle-class liberal families to safe houses in the New York and New England countryside, once beautiful New York City is in danger of becoming the nation’s aneurysm. That is, after the “recovery,” it and other blue cities may be seen as permanent weak veins and arteries prone to sudden fatal hemorrhaging that could implode at any moment, and thus may become metaphorically tied off, as the country reroutes around them.
In the old days of 2019, tolerant Americans more or less accepted that finely crafted statues of sometimes less than inspiring and formerly illustrious (to some) heroes were part of our history. For example, integral to California’s rich historical culture were its missions, acknowledged by Father Serra’s numerous eponymous streets and statues. No one in his right mind believed that renaming a mall named Serra at Stanford University would help mitigate the weekend murder rate in Chicago or the endemic poverty of illegal aliens in my own neighborhood.
The same allowance for imperfection by present standards was made for Robert E. Lee, a capable though not brilliant strategist, and by the standards of his time and space considered a good man who fought for a terrible cause. His name and likeliness were reminders to Americans of the tragedy of the Civil War that saw 700,000 Americans die in the struggle to end slavery. Focusing on inner-city gun violence or abortion or integrating the public schools with the scions of the white upper class might do far more for racial relations than toppling more bronze horses and riders. But that is the point: Focus on the irrelevant misdemeanor as therapy for ignoring the existential felony.
But that idea of live and let live with the past is ancient history now — and hundreds of decapitated and defaced statues ago. A mindless mob, appeased and enabled by a terrified establishment, has systematically and with impunity been destroying as many of the referents of American history as it can.
The fools of the bipartisan elite at first believed the iconoclasm was selective, rational, and measured. It was not. The point was never to fixate on the sins of the ancient slaveholder, or the European discoverer of America, or the author of Don Quixote.
Nor was the point to topple the bad in order to commission the better to take its place. (After all, for these statue-topplers, what icon might be substituted, given the array of their progressive heroes such as Wilsonian racists, mass-murdering Maoists, thugs masquerading as revolutionaries such as Che, or liberal icons like the eugenicist Margaret Sanger, or even the interment-signer FDR?)
The point instead was to destroy and deface most all images of America, from Frederick Douglass and Ulysses S. Grant to Lincoln and World War II heroes such as Churchill. The strategy of the Left was that if they could easily wage war on the bronze and stone of the past without repercussions, then as fear and terror mounted, they could turn to the flesh-and-blood enemies of the people in the present. Anyone who with impunity burns books — including the Bible — vandalizes memorials, defaces public buildings, or topples statues at night eventually gets around to trying out such violence on real people of the present. Portland is a good example, as the spoiled of the middle class seek each night to ignite a police station to roast the officers barricaded inside. Another is Chicago, where looters target high-end boutiques mouthing slogans of social justice.
Once upon a time, trying to torch a federal courthouse would earn years in prison. And simply taking over a large chunk of a downtown to re-create Lord of the Flies was unthinkable. Not now…
Today you can go to jail for reopening a gym that requires masks, social distancing, and constant cleansing with antiseptics.
But you will not go to jail if you assemble en masse to riot, unmasked, armored with makeshift padding, umbrellas, and helmets, and you’re free to shout and spray in the faces of officers and fellow looters and rioters alike.
Yet this is the hard phase, the Jacobin moment of the Revolution.
And we have not seen the full extent of the ongoing counterrevolution that will thin out the violent in the streets and in some ways fall more heavily on those who have empowered it. There will be a counterrevolution because without one there is not much of America left. And about 250 million people liked the America prior to March 1 and finally, in extremis, won’t so easily give it up. Washington and Lincoln, after all, do not just belong to some unhinged Antifa thug mad at America because he is mostly mad at himself. To almost every Jacobin tactic, from defunding the police to violent attacks on federal property, the people are opposed. And they make no apologies for their past or present.
What will the counterrevolutionary entail in areas beyond politics?
I wager that the NBA, the NFL, and perhaps even major-league baseball will soon have a come-to-Jesus moment. Either they will continue with the kneeling, the left-wing sloganeering, the mock-heroic logos, and the finger-pointing at their audiences, and thus slowly grow shriller and more irrelevant as Americans refuse to subsidize insults to their persons and country — or they will quietly return to the pre-Kaepernick world (as the NFL, for example, had in 2019) when politics was seen as bad business in a business, for-profit sport.
If the virus, lockdown, recession, and street violence have taught us anything, it’s that Americans don’t need LeBron James offering another pro-Chinese banality, another Kaepernick ad that hails his “courage,” or another appeasing quarterback fresh out of a North-Korean-like reeducation camp, apologizing for his now incorrect honoring of the flag.
The universities told us that they could charge $80,000 a year for the “campus experience,” that piling up $200,000 in debt for a B.A. degree was a wise investment, and that such campus intellectuals and progressives needed to pay no attention to the Bill of Rights. Fine. But all such nonsense was predicated on the belief that their brands were worth the cost, and the experience on campus was both unique and precious.
In the past year, the curtain pulled away and the con was exposed. You can stay home and tele-learn without stepping foot on a campus — a poor substitute for live teaching, but not so poor a substitute given the cost, the debt, and the indoctrination. The advantage of a Princeton or Stanford degree is now exposed not as proof of a superior education, but simply the purchase of a cattle brand to separate one’s future career from the herd — not much different from having Michael Jordan’s name on an otherwise pedestrian pair of tennis shoes.
At some point the public will want the federal government to turn over the student-loan-guaranteeing business to the universities, which will then cut costs. Endowments of such politicized and warped institutions will soon be taxed. And America will let go of the idea that a 21st-century B.A. degree has anything to do with knowledge, inductive thinking, and learning. After all, somebody “educated” those privileged, prolonged adolescents whom we see nightly in the streets, the environmentalists who leave trash and flotsam and jetsam as their trail, the woke who shout in the face of black police and arrogantly appoint themselves the anarchist brains of BLM, the compassionate who try to burn down, blind, attack the elderly, and destroy anything they cannot themselves create.
Polls show that Americans by overwhelming numbers now believe that the media are hopelessly biased. NBC and other networks and cable outlets are laying off employees. The no-holds-barred arenas of the Internet and social media are replacing newspapers and televised news as sources of public information — not because they are more accurate or less biased, but because consumers can access their bias and inaccuracy at far cheaper prices. Woke journalists have bragged that they no longer need to be anachronistically disinterested in the age of Trump. So why pay a marquee reporter $200,000 when you can get a comparable flack to write the same stuff online for a tenth of the price?
The Sixties generation is going out as it came in: gross, loud, and cowardly, destroying the very institutions for others that it so selfishly consumed for its own benefit.
If we wish to know why America’s veneer of civilization was so thin, and this year so easily scraped away, revealing barbarism beneath, look to a generation’s architects in the university, the media, sports, corporations, and politics who long ago seeded their cultural IEDs and are now giddy they are at last going off, though terrified that the ensuing blasts are reverberating ever closer to home.
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This is exactly what liberalism / socialism / communism gets you
>tragedy of the Civil War that saw 700,000 Americans die in the struggle to end slavery.
stopped reading after this nonsense.
I agree. Hanson is a neocon war lover. And he’s pretentious. Skip the middle name shithead.
Here’s all you really need to know about the author. He’s in bed with you know who.
Call them what they are – Deicides, Christ Killers, Destroyers of Nations, Antichrist. JEWS.
“I for my part maintain that to hate the enemies of God is lawful, and that such a hatred pleases the Master. By enemies I mean those who in every way deny the glory of the Master, whether the Jews or those who are manifestly idolaters or those who thought Arius’ teaching make an idol of the creature, and so take up again the Jewish Error. “ – Gregory of Nyssa, Letters, #3.8
Precisely; as soon as I saw teh author say that Lee fought for a ‘terrible cause’ , I stopped. Had the South not had respect for the nations history and sacked DC as they should have, and then stopped the madness before the war criminal lincoln could import – with rothschilds money – European mercenaries from various marxist ‘revolutions’/revolution attempts on that continent, we wouldnt be having these problems today. Period.
The war of Northern Aggression had NOTHING to do with slavery – even lincoln said so – and I imagine the author knows this. Otherwise, he is so stupid as to be pitied. But as he undoubtedly does know the Truth, he is only to be scorned and ridiculed, loathed for his lying and subservience to the (((narrative))).
Interesting that Jackson implored Jeff Davis to “give me ten thousand men and I will take Washington tomorrow” after the army of NVA kicked the Norths ass at First Battle of Bull Run
( Manassas). But it was thought better of and it did not happen. If it did the Army of NVA would have “sacked” DC as you say , taken Lincoln as a war prisoner or worse and then God only knows what would have happened from there. But you would think that at least some of the horrific bloodletting battles like Antietam, Gettysburg, Mule Shoe Salient (Spotsylvania), Fredericksburg would not have occurred.
Lincoln did use mercenaries. It is historical record that witnesses say when Sherman marched many of his civilian killing troops did not speak English. The idea that Lincoln is some almost mythical national hero is sickening. IMHO he got what he deserved at Fords Theater.
Agreed. Thomas J. DiLorenzo has written several good books about how Lincoln was almost a Dictator and raped the Constitution during The Civil War. He just came out with a new one entitled “The Problem With Lincoln”. I ordered my copy from Barnes & Noble.
Cool. Please post what you think once you have read it !
Me too.
What you’re not recognizing is Hansons jibe at BLM. Contextually, he is saying that the blacks have had less of an excuse to fail since the civil war. Even less since the civil rights act.
The Civil War was about slavery the same way our current predicament is due to Covid. The causes of the Civil War were economics and states rights.
Everything he wrote about the War of Northern Aggression was wrong. Who is this guy?
And Lee made a few mistakes but he WAS brilliant. If he had not lost Jackson at Chancellorsville (and had him at Gettysburg) that war very likely would have had a very different outcome. Legitimate historians consider Lee brilliant for the victory at Chancellorsville alone. I could go on and on but suffice to say this gentleman has no idea what he is talking about.
HH,
I really like Hanson but I too was baffled on his take regarding Lee and the CW. It’s my understanding Lee was a brilliant tactician.
Thinking the CW was about slavery is the most simplistic and misguided understanding.
Hanson is, of course, lying about “the cause” of the American “Civil War”. But he does have a point re General Lee; the South IMHO would have been better served by a strategy of more partisan-style conflict, rather than engaging in Napoleonic set-piece battles against Mr. Lincoln’s army.
Through my retrospectoscope, I’d say General Lee was tactically brilliant, but the overall war strategy could have made better use of the South’s limited resources.
Oh please. Lee was kicking their asses with an army half the size of the Union’s. Until Lincoln unleashed Grant et al: ( those dirty degenerates Sherman and Sheridan) to attack and kill civilians. Old men, women and children. War crimes anywhere else on earth. Lincoln was a filthy stinking pile of dogshit. Give it a rest.
The post-George Washington US Army has always rather fight lightly armed civilians than regular army. Look at the bombing of the Germans, Japanese, Koreans (both sides), Vietnamese (both sides), Syrians, Taliban.
If Sherman would have had airplanes there would not be a Southerner or Navaho alive today.
That is the way you win wars. We had better get ready.
Who won the Vietnam War?
Who won the Korean War?
Who won in Iraq?
Who won against the Taliban( the all new thirty year war in the making)?
There is always a payback for all this blood spilled, just look around.
This fighting for YOUR Freedom is the the biggest bullcrap line ever devised.
Excellent points, Ginger. With war there are only casualities.
Ginger…
How smart are you? Very.
“This fighting for YOUR Freedom is the the biggest bullcrap line ever devised.”
I don’t know anything for sure unless I was there…but you are right.
Taliban? It is my belief that the Taliban was originally against the
poppy production everywhere. Latter days they may have succumbed
to a $$cut of the action.
These stupid “wars” are $ making and $ laundering operations.
Mafia
Jesus…youre a moron.
“The Sixties generation is going out as it came in: gross, loud, and cowardly, destroying the very institutions for others that it so selfishly consumed for its own benefit.”
WTF? What does this have to do with the rest of the article? The ’60’s generation (Me) isn’t out there on the street yet, and when we arrive it won’t be as you describe.
I was confused by that also. The rioters appear to be mostly college-age white kids. Born around 1999.
Not sure, but I suspect Hanson believes, with shallow, perhaps partial justification, that late boomer and early genX cohorts were, in their youth, so narcissistic and spoiled that, later as parents and grandparents to the millenials, they were weak and irresponsible.
The author is yet another hack with an ax to grind. This g0-round he’s going after Boomers as the cause of all the ills of the world, later he’ll go after white men and conservatives.
Perhaps because everyone and their grandmothers know that if we were to take away Medicare and SS just to even have the chance to spare posterity from a sovereign BK, we know what the Boomers would do.
They aren’t exactly a self-sacrificing lot outside the Nam Vets who IMHO earned every penny for being treated like malarial cannon fodder.
Or perhaps your just a pathetic whiny punk.
Maybe. But I’m not a moocher. You have to live with that, knowing this country’s budget is mostly collapsing because of y’all’s unfunded liabilities.
How does that make you feel, Damien? I know how I’d feel!
Oh please child save me the drama and get a job. Christ.
LOL. Putting aside my rather lucrative career that I worked very hard to build, just to earn cash for your SS, you haven’t answered my question:
How does being a mooch – literally – make you feel? How does destroying this country’s budget – ergo, posterity – sit with you every morning? Does your Boomer POTUS pulling forward trillions of dollars in future demand, all for a virus that correctly only kills you all, give you a hard-on without the Viagra? 🙂
You do realize that people and the places these people work do pay into both SS and Medicare, and that about $140.00 is taken out of any SS each and every month for something like 80% Medicare coverage.
Believe you are confused about you paying for anything, you must be thinking of Disability and medicaid.
SS is a Ponzi scheme. Those “contributors” as you say are paying for PREVIOUS contributors and their CURRENT “benefits”. I pay for my parents. My father paid for his. That should be intuitively understood by every American, unless they believe the program has existed for infinity and was infinitely pay-go.
And Medicare? You would have to raise the taxes on it something along the lines of 500+% to even be a “valid” Ponzi scheme. Forget it, that and Medicaid WILL collapse this country.
I have said it before and I’ll say it again: I’m willing to give up everything I’ve put in if Gen X and after are able to kill those programs once and for all. Right here, right now, today. Keep my previous contributions. I don’t want them. I just want to be unshackled from a welfare program that will bankrupt my children and yours.
And that is why I say the Boomers NEED posterity and are THE existential issue of the day in this nation. Many of them have no retirement savings and would be out on the street without those generous welfare benefits that we will never have – nor want, at least in my case.
I do give Trump credit on one thing. He knows FICA is fucking doomed or else he wouldn’t have tossed out the payroll tax. Keep it or not, I imagine Denninger’s 2024 TEOTWAWKI deadline for Medicare is now years sooner, and Trump is perhaps trying to change the FICA “psychology” of the nation. One thing Trump DOES get is business and the status of welfare programs. He knows they’re functionally insolvent without the world reserve currency.
Everyone knows it is a ponzi scheme, or at least became one when the funds were used for other things such as wars. But that does not change the fact that some such a myself have paid into it for over fifty years, and therefore expect our money. There are plenty of people that have done the right thing, and expect to be treated accordingly. Nobody is just going to roll over.
I’m not down voting your statements, but just how could any party or political group just stop payments? Just can not be done without terrible consequences. And besides they can just print the money.
A new day is coming, and obama hinted at it. I really hate it for you youngsters. Enjoy your weed, weekly food box, living space, and universal income without providing anything except your very souls.
Ginger, you all miss the point as a generational cohort. You really just don’t grok what is really going on in this country. I loathe Mill politics as presented in media. Hate it. But it didn’t take tapping a trust fund of Treasuries for SS to run a deficit. This is simple mathematics and the laws of exponents meeting destiny. It’s such a poorly designed system that even the dipshits at ABC News said, “It’s not a Ponzi scheme…It’s simply one generation helping another.” Think about that and ask yourself who’s to blame for destroying the family unit? Is it the clueless Mills? Why has society become dependent on unfunded liabilities? Why should I value your well-being over that of my children, and at gunpoint?
Like all human cohorts, perhaps Gen X and the Mills made some bad financial decisions. I don’t know. But what I DO know is that, unlike the Boomers, they exist in a descendant nation with no hope of family formation, rampant core inflation, and a countrywide lockdown to benefit the elderly to the detriment of those in their formative career years. Now, we can sit here and analyze the whys and wherefores. I’ve done it numerous times and it always ends up in folks calling me names, because let’s face it: The truth is what it is and it is a bitter pill to swallow.
The situation is so dangerous that the natural anger of the youth is being actively co-opted by Communists. And they are succeeding. Like the French Revolution, the Boomers are serving the same role as the Girondin. Good luck with that, because you all are so opposed to ANY radical change that you are forcing the most negative, radical change imaginable.
Sadly, I’ll probably be on the same boxcars as you all, because I’m a #RESISTER. But make no mistake, I understood what Marie was really saying when she said,”Qu’ils mangent de la brioche”. It’s not that she said it dismissively. She really didn’t understand why the mob couldn’t just eat crumbs.
When I say Gen X will not be there to save you all, I mean it. We can’t be even if we wanted to. We’re the shit in a sandwich with Boomers on one end and Mills on the other. Lovely position to be in, let me tell you it tastes fantastic. We’re too busy trying to tell our children why they shouldn’t have to wear Face Condoms to protect Granny who should sit her old pruny ass at home if she is so vulnerable.
“Many of them have no retirement savings and would be out on the street without those generous welfare benefits that we will never have”
Do you have irrefutable proof of this you disgusting crybaby little creep?
Sure, moocher-looter.
https://www.thebalance.com/average-baby-boomer-retirement-savings-4779121
That’s best case. I’ve seen numbers that indicate 1 in 10 would be homeless eventually, without SS and Medicare.
Maybe it would be fair to add up just exactly what amt. was contributed
by a former worker, and provide that in a lump sum. When it is spent,
family members can house their parents.
More than SS for citizen former workers will need a conclusion.
Political refugees receive SS and medicaid, (Jews from Russia) and
other groups. Illegal immigrants get free health care, unwed mothers
get a wide range of $$benefits, and many people double dip those
programs.
So why the fuck did you bring children into this? Did you just figure this out?
Nope. We will do as best as we can. I’m amazed at what I’ve actually been able to set aside for my family given what we’ve been through.
I’m just amazed at how clueless you guys are about your status in this country. You as a cohort are *this* close to a guillotine. It’s that bad out there. And you all are resisting change just like conservatives have done for decades. In the end, you will conserve nothing and lose everything.
I’ll probably be there with you. Because I’m a white male, and because the Communists have successfully injected mal-thought into their heads. It all boils down to bad economic decisions and you guys have quadrupled down on it.
“I’ll probably be there with you.”……..with your children.
Congratulations!
Indeed. I am not the enemy, GAZ. I am an ally. But we ALL have to admit we ALL fucked up in different ways. That is all I am saying.
Did I take out school loans and not pay them back? NO! But I did piss away a LOT of money and morals when I was younger. I paid it back, but there’s no excuse. That could have been money for my kids. I’m harder on myself than anyone else by far.
That’s all I’m trying to do is get people to own all of this with me.
Peace
Same to you, brother. Seriously.
Most of us on this site are on the same side. Sometimes we disagree on tactics or details. I do wish good fortune to you in the shit storm that is just getting started.
Don’t break your hand patting yourself on your back you brave sod. One minute you’re bragging on how great you are and then in the next minute you have your ass wedged so tight on your pity pot it’s a wonder you can walk.
One stroke of bad luck and you too could be out on the street. Enjoy what’s left of your ‘youth’ it goes real fast and spewing hatred for others isn’t exactly a way to stay young.
LOL, my youth. You can’t be serious, but sure, thanks!
I don’t brag on how “great” I am. I’m just proud of overcoming shit, both self-inflicted and otherwise. I had good people and God to thank for that. And stubborn tenacity I guess. But not government!
I really feel bad for you guys. You don’t see the train headed your way. No pun intended.
Stop. Enough. Now climb off your high horse and join the rest of humanity. Quit with the blame game disguised as ‘waking us up’ nonsense. You’re smarter than this.
You need a good spanking. Or not, you may like it…:)
LOL I won’t respond to that last part.
I am not trying to play the Blame Game. I am telling you this is a Bolshevik-French Revolution. And you guys are fanning the flames with this bullshit about “the Mills are all jobless druggies”, “it’s all the negros”, “I earned my SS benefits”.
Just. Stop. And breathe. Mark and Flea have COUNTLESS times on here acknowledged their flawed past. In other words, admitted they were human. Hell, I’m probably more flawed than them. But damn, own that shit! 🙂
the boomers i know, so thats my parents. say that hope it burns (the world) because they are so disillusioned by the disrespect for all their person toughness and accomplishments. All i see is that they supported the system that is crumbling from under me, they expect me to take care of them even though i was emancipated at 16, i guess for giving me my life, which i didnt choose. And dont get me started about my grandpa that bitched his entire life about FDR taking the gold – instead of taking a stand. I do stand, so my children wont have to…
Once all of us can acknowledge that we own this shit, the more quickly we can unite.
I just don’t see it happening. It makes me sad to see the reactions toward what I’m saying. I have a lot of Frog in me and let me tell you, there ain’t a lot of love on my side for 1789 France.
I am certain we are headed there and the Boomers will take the brunt of it. I don’t want to see that. But a hungry and angry mob that places its faith in Marx instead of God will demand blood. Especially with no recognition from the victims that their anger is justified, however mishandled.
Sheesh, what’s with your hard on against old people? Maybe you and Cuomo should get together, he worked real hard to kill them off.
Ahh, now you are getting it. Think that nursing home incident was an accident? Wait until it becomes more overt.
I’m sure I’ll be suffering there with you all. Too dangerous having peaceful thinkers out there!
I’ve no illusions about where things are headed and why they’re headed that way. A major part of this whole Beer Virus bullshit is covering up for a major financial collapse. Getting rid of old folk is a benefit as is destroying the economy.
And you guys are comfortable with it? With being loaded on boxcars? Make no mistake, Boomers will cause MINIMAL resistance to these Satanists’ diabolical plans. And you guys aren’t exactly making it easy for destitute Mills to sympathize!
Sorry, not me. I’m not OK with this.
perfect…gov. gives billions to every country and then some.
Likely more $ than boomers get. Then look to eg teachers unions,
they get more than when actually employed plus free health care.
No kettles calling pots black please.
You don’t pay FICA taxes? I have for the past 50 years. Squanisha the ghetto pump, popping out Dindus and Soy Boy who is depressed about AGW on disability are the ones who need to be cut off from Uncle Sugar. Not us old f’ers who paid our own freight.
You paid for your PARENTS. What is so hard to understand about this? Were they just given SS when it was enacted, and shit out the funds to pay while they no longer worked? How did Patient Zero pay?
Congress can’t even get you guys to acknowledge that life expectancy has increased. Think anything will ever be fixed???
https://mises.org/library/social-security-most-successful-ponzi-scheme-history
Sorry clown – those people paid for the Social security AND Medicare coverage; it is underfunded due to demonrats raiding it illegally to pay for welfare, importation of third worlders, jew wars and your bunches loan defaults. Hd it all been left alone as it was originally written, neither would be in trouble and the average SS payment would be something over 5 times what it is, without collapsing the system. Stop blaming your ekders and betters – blame the (((left))) and their theft/shenanigans. This info is readily available should you bother to read.
Ahh yes, always the Jews. They caused healthcare to rise from 4% of GDP to 20% of GDP and a hideously low Medicare funding rate as well I guess.
Thanks, I’ll trust raw math. But I appreciate that deep insight!
project much, dickweed?
I happen to be one of those grizzled old Nam Vets who served as a combat medic (MOS 91A10) and I can tell you that after paying into SS for every working year of your life, your expectations are at least to receive the miniscule stipend that the government doles out. I dont’ use my medicare, because it is a total fraud and designed to push big pharma’s drugs onto an uninformed populace. But even so, if the government wasn’t furnishing some type of medical assistance to the elderly, they would double up the amount of free care given to the millions of illegals that have crossed our borders unabated and even encouraged by the corrupt, bought and paid for politicians and phony church groups.
If every penny was suddenly taken away from those who worked their entire lives in this country, the government would create another program in which to spend even more money than they spend now.
You see, AOC, it isn’t the program that is important, it’s to make sure that the debt is endlessly increased or else the whole corrupt, crooked Ponzi scheme crashes down around their heads.
I’m sure when you become one of the gray beards (and it will happen) you will have entirely different outlook on things. I just hope for your sake there is still a country left for you to inherit.
I wonder what the CALPERS pensioneers will say? Maybe the same as the folks on this thread? Maybe get really angry and slam me personally?
Still won’t change the math, and the fact that they were on the hook the entire time it could’ve been fixed!
I have no qualms paying for you men, Panzer. You guys went balls to the wall in a shithole situation and were treated like DIRT for it by your peers.
AOC quit with the boomer bashing. Do you need to create even more division and hate? Isn’t the shit that’s happening now enough for you?
Read everything I wrote in here. Please. Despite our disagreements, you are very bright. I think you will see that it isn’t about the blame game.
When you use the phrase Boomer in a disparaging way you don’t make any friends here. Attack SS or Medicare or whatever, but attacking Boomers in the same vein as some attack Jews is beyond the pale.
And like I said, wait until it’s someone with an axe to grind in power. Like, you know, a Cuomo.
There is a LOT of anger that is justifiably directed at the Boomers. I’m not angry anymore. I know I will never have SS or Medicare. Take everything I’ve contributed.
Don’t let yourselves become the Tories, the Girondin, the Russian Monarchists. It’s a nasty outcome and if you’re honest, you see what I am seeing in this world. Your shit smells as bad as mine, as bad as Gen X and the Mills. But time and time again I see the same personality disorders, this weird narcissistic “we didn’t do anything wrong” attitude across BOTH political parties.
I’m wholly inclined to agree with you except as an old Boomer (70) I thought it would be gone by the time I got to it. When they reworked it in ’86 it should simply have become another means tested welfare program without the separate tax. I’ve hated the AARP ever since.
Well I don’t want to see you Boomers gone, believe it or not. You all are the last chance we have of saving this country.
That is not an exaggeration. Remember Fourth Turnings. Remember how Gen X Sam Adams was as pissed off, spitting mad as I was, and how you Boomer Ben Franklins pulled him into the hall to tell him to calm down. I would say Flea and Mark were examples of removing the scales from my own eyes, no matter how much MGM hates him. I’d eat a bullet for those two guys.
How about GEN Washington, when he was clenching his fist demanding resistance? I wonder what Franklin did to chill him out.
We really are all in this together. Each cohort has its role to play. I just wanna see them start playing it.
AOC…
Thanks, I’m seriously honored and walk point for your family in a second.
I took a day and a half off and you became her next target because this crazy nut only wants to control what can be said here. The topic is her excuse. GAZ too.
The rest, save a dozen exceptions don’t want to know we are in the midst of a Bolshie revolution because they would have to do something besides wait for a gray man. In two or three months the SUV’s will be pulling up to rural houses and doing to the occupants what they are doing in the cities. Because we refuse to organize. I will get the parade the boomers owe me and die on my feet.
I have to preserve what health I have remaining and have no energy or desire to alert the willfully unalertable to the coming darkness.
Mary posted a warning of whats coming below here so I’ll post a different version of the same thing.
https://fort-russ.com/2020/08/send-in-the-clowns-for-the-circus-is-in-town/
Flea, you’re like an angry spoilt child. Quit whining because I called you out. As to the dire warnings? Please. I would reckon that over 98% of the people who post on this platform are way ahead of the game and more than ready to deal with those SUVs and whatever else comes barreling up the road.
Organize? So let us all get together today, right now. Those of us in Texas will hop right on over to those in Virginia and the Montana contingent will be right on down. Get real. You act like no one but you has a clue and that is total bullshit. We organize in our geographic location and you haven’t a clue as to what all happens here because I’m not stupid enough to bandy that info on the internet.
You didn’t call me out you nut job. You just want to control everything.
I’m not the only one saying what I say about not doing anything but you admitted you are targeting me because You claim I’m the leader. Rather insulting to the intelligence of the others.
What you’re doing shows in your remarks. Nothing but trashing people.
Twisting my words around to create the narrative Soros is paying you for.
Never did I say it’s only jews involved in this mess and that it’s all the Jews. I went into detail describing those who resist the banking cabal and I quote some of them here frequently. Never did I say non jews were not involved in carrying out this plan and it is a plan. I said the like of Gates and Buffet are just chump change and distractions and the Zionist Rothchild Cabal has us playing whackamole with them while they go unnoticed. I have said it’s the Kabbalah Jews at the top who are directing and controlling this and there are no non Jews in that upper circle so there is no sense going after the managers at the federal level. They are chumps but you pretend to have never read that.
Your bullshit works on the others maybe but you hate me for describing your commie tactics. You’ve got Yoji apologizing and begging you to tone it down because you sold him some bullshit about being an aggrieved widow or something. That’s a poor excuse for killing messengers if it’s true. We all have problems, so what.
I see you were in no hurry to trash talk Fr. John.
In case I forgot, let me tell you to Piss Off.
The dough brained non thinkers can have your sorry ass, they deserve it.
You’re right again, I was wrong. Hate when that happens. I figured if Llpoh could give it another shot, I could as well.
She’s a mouthy witch making up for lost time. Just a hunch. I’d get lost in the woods permanently over having to deal with that quarrelsome bullshit.
Once upon a time this website had some intelligent commentary, commentary that covered a wide range of topics. It was educational and eye opening at times. Now it has degenerated into a bash fest, a cadre of small minds that, under the guise of ‘warning of impending peril’ attacks Jews, women, Boomers and anything else that can be properly hated and despised. Small minds that can only find fault and place blame while creating scapegoats have taken over. It has become boringly predicatable.
I know what you all are going to say, you repeat yourselves over and over. Nothing new, nothing fresh or enlightening, just the same dreary negativity and monotonous fear mongering and scapegoating
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Ya’ll can continue your circle jerk, keep reinforcing one another, it’s all you have.
I disagree My girl. I think the boomers do OWN this. I think pot laws were relaxed for the boomers sake. I look at the marketing that harkens the boomers back to their teen years, working. We’re spoiled, drunk, stoned and on welfare or some teat of another name. Sadly, very few synapses are firing anymore in tons of boomers and it shows.
The problem with singling out one group and making them the scapegoat is that it ignores the real people who actually stir the shit and create the problems. Painting everyone in a group with a black brush, without exception, is what the Nazis did with the jews, what the Hutus did to the Tutsi, what Stalin did to the Kulaks, what the Turks did to the Armenians….need I go on?
I wasn’t born when SS was created, I have paid into SS all of my adult life, I was forced to pay into it, I had no choice. . I didn’t create it, FDR did, and for someone to call out a generation that wasn’t EVEN ALIVE when SS was created is not only asinine, it’s also whiney and pathetic.
You’re right on one level. Blaming one entire group of people for all or even most of the ills of the world is not only immoral, but dangerous. It leads to where I see things headed.
You’re wrong on another level. Boomers have rarely owned their shit. That’s where all the blowback is coming from. Worse still, they project it onto the Mills, as if the Mills were the ones who repealed GLB that collapsed the global financial system, or enacted DHS that gave us the militarized police state. Mills know that their opportunities are fucked. Gen X has dealt with 3 financial crises (1 of them being the worst, 1 which would have been the worst if TARP weren’t passed) that wiped them out, so no savings there outside of RE. The Mills have never experienced a world without continuous, global war at their expense (bodily and financially).
If the Boomers don’t start taking accountability for some of this shit, it’ll be Tory 2.0. Do you know what happened to the Tories who stayed? Go read about the War of 1812 and how the Federalist newspaper editor was dealt with in Baltimore. That’s how long the Demo-Rep anger simmered.
Who do you think is going to win that battle of anger in the end, especially when it’s channeled by a bunch of Marxists and ne’er-do-wells?
I keep trying to tell you all that the complete image and likeness of God is the circle of Man and Woman, Justice and Mercy. You all have ZERO mercy and there is a price to be paid for it. There is no bunker that could possibly protect someone from a broke, destitute, angry mob. That is not the world in which I’d like to live.
There’s no comparison between the Nazis and a bunch of broke kids. There IS a comparison between the Nazis and those kids’ handlers. The kids are justifiably angry and handling it COMPLETELY wrong. And their financial situations are in large part a present from the Boomers. This is undeniable. Do you think they’ll care if YOU weren’t the Boomer who did it? Did Robespierre?
Oh please, quit being a drama queen. The broke kids? How many majored in bullshit gender crap to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars? You forget who made the federal government the grantor of those student loans and you also forget who removed bankruptcy as an option.
You also seem to ignore how spoiled many of those precious little SJW’s truly are.
You talk out of both sides of your mouth. One minute blame the boomers, next minute apply false pathos for those ‘broke kids’ then off you go on some weird God tangent with zero mercy and bunkers and what all else. You sound bi-polar and off your meds.
Newsflash little fella, we’re all in this shit filled rowboat together , like it or not, regardless of age, gender or whatever you’re bitching about at the moment, no one gets out of here alive. Trying to find a scapegoat to vent your anger at is understandable but not very mature.
Way below the belt. Fuck off, you hairy-legged kraut. Go get stuck in a washer. It is so deliciously ironic that you live in the next VA.
Love it!!!
You make no sense, if you’re addressing me then I will politely tell you to go fuck yourself. If you’re addressing someone else then ignore this comment. Have you taken your meds today?
WE boomers do have a lot to answer for. We have willfully mushrooms, being in the dark and being fed shit most of our lives.
Thank you thank you thank you Confederation.
The old commie fuques are the mentors of the current crop. Cloward-Piven, Ayers and Dohrn etc. Look at the old assholes on MSNBC. They are cheerleading and see nothing wrong except it’s all Trump’s fault because there is a federal officer defending a federal building they want to burn down.
I hope to not be on a street but on top of something rather tall. Remember to pull the ladder up with you.
When I was in 8th grade my social studies teacher had us read an article entitled “On the Shoulders of Giants”. Then we were to write, in our own words, what this meant to us.
For me, as a 14 year old girl, I saw it as building upon those that came before us. To see the long sight into the horizon, to move forward, not back.
If you google this phrase now, all that comes up is absolute bullshit about sports teams and the first entry is some drivel from Pete Buttigieg.
We can go back decades, centuries, and millenia and find fault with every single person that made any contribution to society. Why? Because people are flawed creatures. That’s just the way it is. Cast the first stone and all that.
Christopher Columbus was, seemingly, a really big asshole. He did some really bad shit I have no doubt. We do not celebrate the bad shit. We look at a man that discovered a new land on a wind-powered ship before GPS, with nothing more than a sextant, which I am going to safely assume 90% of the US population could not identify if you stabbed them in the face with it.
Thomas Edison, also a pretty big asshole and racist. We would not have our sparkly iPhones and all that other shit without him.
Does anyone think the Holy Steve Jobs was a saint? Does anyone honestly believe the man had no human frailty?
How about Albert Einstein? Brilliant beyond measure no doubt, but just a man.
Stephen Hawking was also brilliant, but apparently loved women and could not keep his junk in his pants.
When we try and erase the past, we are doing no one, especially ourselves, any favors. What we need to do is look realistically at the human condition. EVERYONE is a power of example, both good and bad, what to do, what to strive for, and what not to do.
Despite the genocide of millions of people, Hitler will never be erased from history. Why? Because we don’t want to forget what an absolute monster he was. But what we also cannot forget, is that an entire nation of Germans allowed it to happen. The other really important question is why? Because they were scared shitless of ending up in a concentration camp and dying a horrible death.
We, as a nation, are heading down the path of 1940’s Germany. Those leading the charge are no better in their cries of “equality!” because it is in fact, not equality for all, but only for some select few.
We are taking all the bad of Rwanda, Germany, China, et al and rolling into one giant stink fest egg roll of epic proportions.
What exactly do all the BLM and Antifa people think is going to happen if their “demands” are met? I am curious as to their end game, although I am sure that it will not end the way they think it will. Right now they are running on pure hate and anger, and that is no way to end up.
South Africa is running on hate and anger, and they are on the path to starvation.
The Red Terror started out guillotining everyone the peasants thought were nobility, but as we all know, it didn’t end there. Read the accounts. Eventually clean clothes were enough to get you separated from your head.
We are seeing the shining sun of freedom devolving into the red dwarf of collapse, where it eats itself and in the end destroys all things in it’s path. What will be left behind is a black hole of misery and suffering not for some, but for almost all of us.
I haven’t seen an ANTIFA wack job give an interview yet. On the street, they just yell over people trying to talk or get interviews. I guess their all idiots.
RE Pup,
I agree with everything you say but you need a serious learning experience on Hitler. There is not a more maligned figure in history. He begged Churchill ( a true sociopath) not to fight and as far as the whole 6 million burning jews thing, there is no more erroneously written garbage.
The holohoax never happened and the Holodomor is never remembered. Figure out the why on that one and you will have learned much about history and today’s landscape.
you can make a case that not as many people died in the holocaust as claimed–you can also make the case that many of the deaths were due to malnutrition & disease–
stating that the holocaust never occurred takes away your credibility–
Steve’s comment is true.
Holocaust is destruction by fire. The term is a propaganda tool, meant to mislead and rally support for an ongoing global, legally enforced, and enormously lucrative cult of victimhood for an ethno-racial group that wields an equally enormous degree of economic and poltical influence.
There was no such thing as a holocaust in the detention centers. The allied bombing of Dresden was an example of an acutal holocaust. There were no ovens intended for, or even capable – as regards quantity, size, or availability of fuel – of exterminating millions of people in 4 years time.
Neither were there gas chambers used for this purpose. Typhus was rampant and Zyklon was used as a decontaminant. And the pictures of lampshades or soap bars made from dead jews that you saw in elemntary school were fake.
Witnesses with knowledge or evidence to this effect were banned from testifying at Nuremberg.
Yes, jews suffered, but so did everyone else. In the latter stages of the war, food, fuel, medicine, and shelter were scarce. In the immdiatete aftermath those who suffered most were German civilians, in allied death camps, as maliciously intended.
1 [countable] a situation in which many things are destroyed and many people killed, especially because of a war or a fire
a nuclear holocaust
2 the Holocaust [singular] the killing of millions of Jews by the Nazis in the 1930s and 1940s
https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/holocaust
Maybe find a definition before jews got their hooks in all Western publishing.
genocide requires at least some intent. if ‘many of the deaths were due to malnutrition & disease’ because the good guys bombed all the supply lines, that hardly counts as purposeful and therefore not a hall of cost.
what we did to germany after the war is a different matter.
For Christ’ssake, Auschwitz had a swimming pool on its ground for the “prisoners”. There were also soccer teams, concerts and births that occurred. I’m definitely NOT saying it was Shangri la. It was no doubt awful. But a designated extermination camp with that as it’s sole purpose? That’s laughable.
There were three camps in Auschwitz. Camp One had the swimming pool which some have claimed was actually a water reservoir. Here is a better explanation of what Auschwitz actually was…
What was Auschwitz?
Contrary to those on this thread who are referring to Auschwitz as a “death camp”, Auschwitz was in fact a concentration camp. Built on the barracks constructed for Polish soldiers in the Great War, KZ-Auschwitz (Oświęcim, in Polish) was in operation from 1940 and its operation was a matter of public knowledge.
The Nazis had every intention that, following their success on the battlefield of Europe, Auschwitz would remain a permanent feature of the conquered Polish landscape.
In 1942, Auschwitz became an industrial complex with the inclusion of a new camp in Monowitz (Monowice, in Polish), where IG-Farben set up factories. In addition, a sucamp in Birkenau (Brzezinka, in Polish), grew in that same year to constitute the most efficient death camp in the entire Nazi camp system.
As such, what we term “Auschwitz” is no longer one camp, but three: a concentration camp, a labour camp, and a death camp. The “swimming pool” was in Auschwitz I – the concentration camp (or KZ) of Auschwitz.
https://www.quora.com/Why-were-there-swimming-pools-at-Auschwitz-during-the-Holocaust-Were-they-for-use-by-the-SS-or-the-inmates
Steve: I am making no claims as to the actuality of who died at the hands of whom, and how many. Hitler was no saint. He was a narcissist, sociopathic, methamphetamine addict who absolutely WANTED to kill millions of people based on their race, sexuality, or religious affiliation. To what extent he did it has been up for debate for years.
I personally have spoken to a “work camp” survivor who was, in her own words, one of the lucky ones who was actually in a small camp that actually was doing war production. She self-admittedly saw no experiments, tortures, or gas chambers, but she did experience deprivation, starvation, lack of medical care, over work, sexual assault, lice, scabies, scurvy, a shaved head, freezing cold, dirty water, and
extreme weight loss. When the war ended, she never knew what happened to hundreds of Jews she personally knew. They were just gone.
The winners always write the story, but there is plenty of corroborating accounts of what happened in that country.
Mao killed millions. Edi Amin was a nut case murderer. Pol Pot had zero compunction in using death as a weapon.
I merely used Hitler as one of the better-known examples of a really, really bad person in power and how a country can be led down the path by someone like him. He caused just as much suffering to his own people as whomever else he turned his evil eye upon.
The US is held up as doing what we “had to” by dropping the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. What is not taught is that Hirohito surrendered weeks before this, his only ask was that the emperor remain in order to keep the country from breaking up into chaos. Truman wanted “unconditional” surrender and the civilians of Japan be damned. What kind of a sick person drops hydrogen bombs on innocent civilians? A pure sociopath. That’s who.
So make no mistake Steve, I have a brain and use it.
Your comments are solid, REPup, but no “hydrogen bombs” were dropped on Japan.
Regards.
H Bomb or A bomb..the results were very bad indeed. Thanks for the clarification though.
As bad as those results were, they are nowhere near as bad or irreparable as niggers in Detroit produced and are continuing to produce.
well that changes everything – let me re-think the whole ‘war is bad’ premise because in this nuclear age i obviously missed what you are seeing billy..
The more you talk the dumber you look, pup. Quit reading you own press releases. The sub 90 readers told you, you were a good writer and you believed them.
what a brave anony, i dont think anonymous should even be allowed to do their chickenshit critiques. did you have anything intelligent to say or any solutions? or are you just shill!
Anons don’t care what you think kevie. She’s a pedestrian writer repeating grade school false history
and you low-q readers fawn all over her. She ranges in the bottom percentile of women here.
anonII…can’t wait for the sequel…
As to what Pup wrote, where is she repeating false history? Please, elucidate, inquiring minds want to know. Real easy to cast aspersions but a whole nother ballgame to actually show proof of the errors.
RE Pup,
I appreciate the vast majority of your comment and agree with your general perspective on most things. I do get rankled with the “Hitler bad” rhetoric that is always tossed out there so haphazardly due to 70 years of gross propaganda by the small hats. The guy was concerned for the Aryan race. The global Zionist bankers, not at all. And we see today the same contempt and appetite for destruction.
Steve-It’s almost as though some unseen hand is somehow controlling the narrative. Go figure.
There aren’t any museums or memorials remembering the 60 million whites murdered and starved in the Ukraine and Russia at the hands of the ruthless and diabolical Bolsheviks, as well. Guess it wasn’t worth remembering.
“with nothing more than a sextant, which I am going to safely assume 90% of the US population could not identify if you stabbed them in the face with it.”
I must confess that if you showed me one, I would be able to identify it as a navigation thingy.
Sex Tent? I thought they closed that place down back in ’08?
It would hurt to be stabbed in the face with a sextant….
Noon siting position confirmed attack imminent BATTLE STATIONS !
A brilliant analysis Pup, and how courageous of you to actually think for yourself. I would caution you on taking any advice from posters on this site: it is infested with nihilistic self-promoting trolls who have their own agenda and wish to spread it. When evaluating Received Wisdom, consider the source. Lord Acton said “power TENDS to corrupt”, not that all humans are damned. Rather, stick to the sentiment of your last sentence: the collaborators, like you, can stick together while the adversarials can hang apart. Be the network to which we all want to cleave.
Wow..CF, I think you need to go sit in the internet corner for a while.
Chuck, thank you for that acknowledgement. But what I love the most about TBP is that we don’t censor people here. No matter their views, they are given the right to speak.
Which is what we all strive for. When I read Steve’s comment, my first thought was “Why is Steve defending something, that to me, is indefensible?” But then I thought some more. And am thinking Steve is maybe not as good as getting his point across. Maybe Steve’s point is much like mine in my response to him: The victor writes the history. Thus my point on the US dropping the bombs.
There is never any 100% good and 100% bad guy on any side. Period. That is just not how life works.
When the pendulum swings it never returns to center but continues on it’s path right to the opposite side.
So while we are rightfully dismayed at the current events, we are but a speck in history and experiencing our own pendulum swing. I say this not to minimize the damages being done, but rather to tell all to hold fast as nothing lasts forever on this blue ball.
That does not mean we forsake the good and right. No. It means we must all live our conscience as best we can, love our families and our neighbors, and denounce bad acts and actors wherever they may be.
Pretending something isn’t real despite knowing it is, will solve nothing.
“simply the purchase of a cattle brand to separate one’s future career from the herd”
Yikes! V.D.H. is writing this? It is the end…
It’s Satanic Communism going worldwide right now and we told you so, long before any of this shit went this far.
Trust not the arm of flesh (1967) https://tinyurl.com/y64ah3jl
He who is awash with wisdom of a false prophet, his brain eatineth awayeth by social rejection, who striketh back with a constant barrage of moronic fables shall eventually returneth to dust and ultimately be ignoredeth.
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This is one of your good ones.
Ask your local County Pastor or Catholic Priest why only 25% of his APOSTATE flock believes abortion should be illegal in most instances.
See what he says and quote him on it.
Men should stay the fuck out of abortion issues.
They aren’t pregnant for 9 months and go through child birth and ruin their bodies and they don’t raise children.
Let women decide!
Dear Humans: If you don’t want abortions use birth control.
You’re welcome ladies.
I’ve seen a lot of idiotic comments here but yours takes the cake. Seriously. You have no idea what you are talking about. Do not get me started.
“If you don’t want abortions use birth control.”
Is that the idea you don’t like?
Are you a man?
Come back and talk to me after you read both of these:
Women decide to abort. Women…it’s their choice!
What do you find offensive? The choice?
I’m not going to read anything. Do you think it would change my mind?
Not for….not against……I have no children and I never will.
I am sorry if any of the above offends you.
Of course you won’t read it. You don’t give a shit about women or what abortion does to them not to mention the 60 million children killed.
So what is your opinion of women that have had abortions?
60 million according to you.
Would you have them punished? How?
Or would you have your God punish them ? How?
I’ve been happily married for 34 years with no children… by choice… by both of us because we new what was/is coming.
I have never impregnated a woman or owned a slave.
You think I don’t care about women. Why? Because I think they have the ultimate right of choice? Maybe you should self examine why you have such strong feelings of anger toward a total stranger that doesn’t have the duplicate feelings of reproduction that you have instead of lashing out incoherently like a psychotic cunt.
Look, asshole, I’m not going to rewrite what I already wrote. If you want to know my opinion, it’s all in my two essays. Otherwise, fuck off. I was perfectly nice until you started calling me a psychotic cunt. At that point, yeah, I’m going to become aggressive. You are the one who started the shit so who is the psycho here?
Those are essays?
🙂
“You’re welcome ladies.”
You so proudly expect applause for an asinine statement. You won’t even consider an opposing opinion. You then start name calling because you don’t like my opinion, even though you have no idea what it is. I’m beginning to think you are a troll.
Mikey the troll comes to mind.
Ahhh, yes. Mikey, he didn’t last long, did he?
Piss off jerkwad. What was the point of marrying if you weren’t going to procreate and raise kids.
You could have just shacked up or slept around. All you have in life is trashing good people you don’t even know. If you had a kid you might understand what she is getting at.
I find killing babies offensive.
I exist to provoke idiotic comments and such things, m’lady.
The truth usually brings out the most down votes around here.
You flatter yourself gaz.
women are supposed to create life not take it…
I prefer the imperfect world we had before the Virus and the riots started going on. What I find strange is the cops putting up with the rioters, theres no peaceful protesting going on. Liberal hell holes seem to want this stuff. I don’t think this would fly in most other places. You start fires where I live and the locals will kick your ass. Plus everyone is armed. I think soon we will read about people opening fire on these ANTIFA thugs.
Exactimundo- fight fires with (gun)fire.
“I think soon we will read about people opening fire on these ANTIFA thugs.”
Once that happens, it’s on like Donkey Kong.
Seems the Wisconsin rioters were armed. That takes things to a whole ‘nother dimension. As to the cops, they are loyal to the pension and will follow the orders of whoever controls those pensions. Smart cops will realize that said pension may not be worth getting killed over and quit if the pension controllers are also pro-rioters.
This ^
Smart cops will realize that smart people can figure out where they and their families live.
Forced confiscation of firearms? Better think twice Johnny Law/National Guard..
You are with us or against us.
Police and politicians and lawyers and realtors…..you need to be a sociopath to want to be one…generally speaking.
Substitute “Cop” with “Boomer” and “Pension” with “Social Security” and you’re also accurate.
Would you like some cheese with that whine girly boy?
But ACCURATE. Sorry, Damien!
QED
AOC
Are you kidding me?
ALL of the cops shooting blacks in recent videos are below 40, rejected by girls in high school, former dorks. I’m not standing up for idiot ,felon, armed blacks who dis-obey simple commands…but, come’on man….young cops are ASSHOLES! What kind of a person wants to BE a cop now?
I’m not defending these monsters. Age has nothing to do with the profession, which apparently Republicans love. Personally, I’d rather see the irregulars – the People, the militia – minimally trained and armed. They should be policing their own neighborhoods which is what the primary purpose of our 2nd was. Arm the People to safeguard liberty in the worst case.
I’m just making sure to point out that the Boomers lambasting all of these kids were mostly responsible for their upbringing and single parent households. Certainly responsible for militarizing them, after Dubya (Boomer) created the DHS.
I’m Gen X. My kids can’t even drive yet.
” Age has nothing to do with the profession”
You don’t think there’s a difference between a young cop and an old cop who would have just kicked that guy’s ass and threw him in the back of a Crown Victoria instead of shooting him in the BACK several times!
You are out of your fucking mind.
I see. You’re right, law enforcement is such a noble profession. Only the best and the brightest, Stanley Milgram would say. History has taught us exactly that!
Remind me again what the 3rd and the 4th were for?
Are you able to argue the merit of the argument or just continue with your usual derogatory self, GAZ? 🙂
I made my point and you are distorting it. Buh- Bye
Good-bye and Godspeed!
dude, we cant even distinguish between our enemies and those we have something in common with. what do you think they are protesting? they are protesting that every generation before them has left them with nothing. Even their ‘education’ teaches them nothing – and they know this to be true. these are our alies, its just neither side can see we are all the same slave…
And why is that the case?
I wouldn’t say they were left with nothing, they certainly seem to have an inordinate amount of free time and enough capital to underwrite their indolence.
So you think you won’t get old? You sure are being an arrogant asshole with this boomer bashing bullshit. Instead of Jews you’re going after Boomers because you evidently need some group to vent your frustrations on.
MGM, I’ll be happy if I live to see 70. Look at this country, ma’am! Look at what the Mills, dumbfucks as they are, have inherited! It’s a Shit Sandwich Party and I don’t wanna be in the middle of you all.
This isn’t about me. It’s about my kids, and they aren’t even Mills, either.
How about we limit it to just bashing old Jews. See, I’m willing to compromise.
LMFAO. OK that was funny.
I say shoot all the wounded Luciferian Globalists and all their ORCs…I don’t give a shit what race, color, creed, sex, religion and when it comes down to hand to hand…their age…
LOL. I’m ok with bashing old jews, heck, lets also bash old politicians who deserve it more.
Are you Biden?
Will you please quit with the boomer bashing, it makes you look petty and small. Nowhere do you mention the Social Security fraud or how the democrats used SS to fund illegals. Get rid of those and SS would actually serve it’s purpose.
The only purpose it was designed for is the introduction of socialist practice in everyday American life, weakening resistance thereto. It was and is the second step toward the destruction of the country and its people’s liberty. The federal reserve having been the first.
mg says- Seems the Wisconsin rioters were armed. That takes things to a whole ‘nother dimension.
They have been armed since Chaz and you have followed it but didn’t know that? The stupid, it burns.
Yo, stupid, they are now shooting at cops, they kinda held back before. I daresay the little chickenshits who insult anonymously are worse than the chickenshit pukes who belong to Antifa and BLM.
There have been plenty of armed people up to this point but in this case they appear to have been firing on that MRAP. They should have been shot. Here in my little bumfuque town there would have been one or more sniper teams in overwatch during something like this.
Agreed. Cops/politicians sit on their hands. They are not going to fire the first shot heard around the world. That is what the puppetmasters want, John Q. Citizen, a White fed up citizen to cross the line and go batshit. Then all their False Rhetoric will prove true, that it is Whitey’s fault, his innate nature is one of violence and racism against the poor folk that just can’t get a break……..
Indeed the liberal hell holes want this stuff. It is not rocket science . Peaceful Demonstrations do not throw bricks,burn buildings, assault police disturb the peace, interfere with peaceful movement and buisiness of other citizens. All of those things are subject to arrest and prosecution. The cities “choose “not to do either. Obviously it is what they want.
Yah, have you seen the city council members from these shitholes? Many of them appear foreign born with heavy accents. They look unhinged and just babble left wing shit. They are why the cops in these places can’t do anything.
HR, the residents put them on the city council. They voted for this, now they get to live the consequences.
Virtue signaling should get the death penalty. “Look how awesome we are! We are so cool that we vote for unserious foreign crackpots to prove we aren’t racists.” I hope we can at least figure out why these Prog localities continuously vote for unserious people for serious jobs. I am of a mind that half the country is not capable of making intelligent decisions regarding governance. Maybe more than half. Much more. I think the result is going to be all Prog cities or areas will become No Go zones.
unfortunately some of those are my kids – so you will shoot the stooges but what of the handlers? i dont see any of us dragging our governors down to the old courthouse – which is exactly where the fire needs to be set. it is funny that we didnt want big government and now we have kids facing them down and we call them these anti-establishers the problem, yes we would do it differently – but they did it while we typed insults at each others wrinkles. the time is ripe but none of us see how to get the 2 sides together against the real enemy. so sad – no i dont have ideas to get them together either – i suck!
How about Barry McGuire’s “Eve of Destruction”?
Join the discussion…Great take on current events and the coming demise of several terminally diseased social institutions (sports, media, education), but evidently miseducated regarding CW, Lee etc. The closing comment about 60’s generation was an errant asteroid from nowhere–unrelated to the rest of the article. Perhaps he meant that the tactics of the 60’s leftists and the seeds they planted have taken till now to come to harvest. Looks like we’ll reap the whirlwind, but shouldn’t have that blanket indictment of a whole generation.
All of this is a distraction while they carry on with the real Plan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQSGZKWBSmA
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My own normalcy bias tells me that the mayors, prosecutors and councils will certainly not allow their cities to become Beirut for the sake of their own gain. How wrong can a guy be? The politicians are of 2 kinds. Opportunists who don’t care about their communities as long as they to steal their share and keep it. There are also the true believers who truly hate. TPTB are using them to achieve their goals . They will deal with BLM and Antifa later.
As long as TPTB do not have the control they want, we will continue to become Beirut and Mogadishu. The veneer is peeling back as we watch and what is underneath is not pretty.
More like Juarez and Tijuana.
The Mexicans will always rule over the Muzzies in this country.
Fracturing of the USA into smaller war lord/cartel controlled racially hygienic areas coming soon to a socially distanced theater near you.
The End.
We only have a thin veneer of civilization left because government and its violence and tyranny, has come in and destroyed/replaced all the normal structures that support civil society – family, church, real community, neighborhoods, voluntary associations, schools, etc. One half is stolen from to hand to the other half. One race is pitted against another (or many). Government is hailed as “all-knowing” and given power accordingly. Truth is whatever government and their lapdog media say it is.
we let that go ourselves. we were the institution but were to lazy to maintain it. divide and conquer! Scientific method seems to be dead, magna carta left with pensions, and was there ever rule of law – i see ourselves to blame!
” a good man who fought for a terrible cause.” Hey Victor …..blow me ! We’ll see how many turds like you want to come South once the SHTF. As far as I’m concerned you’re not welcome here ….and the rest of the South haters as well .
B/BLOA- You may want to check out the video of Hansen at the Jewish Leadership Conference. -Speaks volumes as to where his loyalties lie. The old west movies occasionally make reference to carpetbaggers (Thunder over the Plains is one,) but never seem to reveal the fact that they were mostly Jew scavengers, who like their cousins, the vultures, came down south to pick the bones of the beaten down and impoverished southerners during the wretched period jokingly referred to as reconstruction.
Hansen’s a hollow puppet that dances to Israel’s tune. His perspectives will always align with the damyankees (one word).
Is it me or do negro females sound like wild chimpanzees in the jungle? Just asking.
Having lived in Playa Jaco in Costa Rica for two years (in the mid 80’s, when it was still nice) and listening to white face monkeys scream all night long I would actually have to agree.
Nevertheless, the Nephites were inspired by a better cause, for they were not fighting for monarchy nor power but they were fighting for their homes and their liberties, their wives and their children, and their all, yea, for their rites of worship and their church.
(Alma 43:45)
The Nephite army throws back the Lamanite hordes in North America circa 74 B.C.
Dear .22 stupidest wild cat cartridge ever:
Don’t give me the”it shoots flatter” blather you extra chromosome blem.
If you want to shoot at paper targets and squirrels while wasting powder and enduring needless recoil and burning out barrels prematurely (if you ACTUALLY shoot this caliber regularly) knock yourself out Jethro.
Nobody gives a shit if the Nephite army threw a no-hitter “back in the day”.
Oh, great. Victor Hanson Davis again. He is almost as clueless as Whitehead. This pretentious old California “dude” is so typical of the breed. Claims to be “conservative”, whatever that is, and opposed to the maniacs destroying our country. Of course, right out of the box, he has to prove his “non-racissness” by taking a dump on Robert E. Lee, the hero of ALL true Southerners, the most cohesive and numerous conservative bloc in the country. He sneers at Lee’s supposed lack of “strategic” vision. Fact check, you moron. Lee did not direct Confederate strategy. Until the end he did not even command all of the Confederate armies. Confederate strategy was decided by Lee’s civilian chief, Jefferson Davis. Lee was not a free agent. As for the “terrible cause” he fought for, really? Defending your homeland from people who hate you and want to destroy everything you hold dear has usually been seen as a fairly honorable reason to fight. Lee did not start the war nor did he want it. Like every American, he was forced to take sides by circumstance and by what he thought was right. Lee was a Virginian when being a Virginian meant something. Further, he was from the First Families of Virginia. To expect him to turn on his own illustrious ancestors and kin to fight for New England radicals who despised the South and people like Lee, well, it was not going to happen.
Davis makes some smug, half-hearted comments about it being bad that statues of people like Lee were being torn down since SOME people (no doubt smelly rednecks with no teeth and wearing bib overalls) seem to admire him.
That a dipshit like Davis – who is a Californian who actually can still stand to live there – feels entitled to sneer at the South and Southerners to curry favor with the sort of people who would like to turn him into taco salad or chitlins, makes me puke. Listen up, you horse-faced old bastard. Southerners do not care what you think but you had better care what We think.
Like it or not, this country will not be and can’t be saved without the South, period. I would advise all so-called “conservative” pundits like Davis and Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro and all the rest to chew on that for a while. And when the dust settle we will remember who are friends are, and those who are not our friends.
^^^ This x 100. Love it.
When can we draft you (again), SS? Soon, I hope?
Yea, that was a standing ovation SS…
Ahhh…if only the Wall of Stone had been at Gettysburg…maybe…if…could have…history might have… oh well.
“Let us cross over the river,” he said calmly, “and rest under the shade of the trees.”
http://www.ageod-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=50105
Mark, everyone should read Jack Hinson’s One-Man War: A Civil War Sniper.It’s a bit of a hard read because the author tended to repeat himself but it has a great analysis of the battles lost because of politics. I ordered it after you recommended it a while back.
“I heard Neil Young sing about her…”
Bravo!
“… And about 250 million people liked the America prior to March 1 and finally, in extremis, won’t so easily give it up.” If this is what it takes for the Awakened Saxon to finally, irrevocably REMOVE the detritus of the TURD world, and their Zionistic supremacist “Massas” from these shores, then so be it. Deo Volente!
“I for my part maintain that to hate the enemies of God is lawful, and that such a hatred pleases the Master. By enemies I mean those who in every way deny the glory of the Master, whether the Jews or those who are manifestly idolaters or those who thought Arius’ teaching make an idol of the creature, and so take up again the Jewish Error. “ – Gregory of Nyssa, Letters, #3.8
“Equality is known to produce strife. Therefore God allowed the human race to be a monarchy, not a democracy. But the family is constructed in a similar way to an army, with the husband holding the rank of monarch, the wife as general and the children also given stations of command.”
St. John Chrysostom, Homily 34 on I Corinthians, 7
“If you want liberty you yourselves must strike the blow. If you must be free, you must become so through your own effort … Until you produce what the white man has produced you will not be his equal.”
– Marcus Garvey, speaking to the Universal Negro Improvement Association in 1921
“Islam is a political system, NOT a religion, and unless and until humanity wakes the hell up and STOPS referring to it as a religion, there is no hope.”-
“Just like they destroyed Russia a few years before that through their communism over there. Jews destroyed Russia, not goyim. Jews destroyed it. Communism is by Jews. Don’t let anybody confuse you. You look at history: Karl Marx, all the [others]….they are all Jews. Wicked, but none the less Jews. They destroyed Russia, and [Hitler] wrote in chapter two of “Mein Kampf,”’ now they want to destroy Germany. That’s why I have to destroy them.’ Now, it doesn’t make it right. I’m pointing out, that’s absolute true history….This is one of the biggest reasons of why he hated Jews. Because they destroyed the economy, because of their greed. It’s not making him right. Don’t let this confuse you. But this is happening again.”
“…the language of “rights”, whether human or national, is a Western language deriving from the French revolution: it has no place in discussions of God’s judgements about the nations. “The earth is the Lord’s, and the fullness thereof”, and He gives it to whom He wills- temporarily and on trust. If we are believers, then we know that God changes the boundaries of the nations in accordance with His justice and for the sake of the salvation of the peoples –all the peoples – living in them, not because of any specious “rights”. Do the Jews have the right to rule present-day Israel. No they do not! Not even the King of Israel, the Lord Jesus Christ admitted them that right before His death, having given “to Caesar what is Caesar’s”; still less did He accord them that right after they had killed Him, but scattered them in exile across the face of the earth.”
– Vladimir Moss, https://www.academia.edu/34381268/PUTIN_S_REVOLUTION_docx?email_work_card=view-paper
I’ve no use for VDH’s continued historical crap about slavery being the cause of Lincoln’s War of Northern Aggression. Plus, RE Lee being mediocre? Then why did Lying Lincoln offer him command of the Yankee Army?
Used to respect his scribing, not it ain’t nuttin but prattle sh*t. Let him deal with CA Hwy 99.
off topic but this is an interview w/the author of a book about trump advisor stephen miller–
https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5ucHIub3JnLzM4MTQ0NDkwOC9wb2RjYXN0LnhtbA/episode/NWZhNGJjNjktNjRjYS00MGIxLWJmYjYtOTg0YmJmNDZlNzE2?hl=en&ved=2ahUKEwjd_J7EkbXrAhWQuVkKHRS0BDAQieUEegQIAxAE&ep=6
The writer is obviously a Yankee piece of scum. There was never a “civil” war in America after 1783 – there was a war for secession. It’s curious to claim it was about “ending slavery” when slavery is still enshrined in American law. If you disagree, get locked up sometime.
I demand more posts from @Articles of Confederation.
That was a blast down voting so many posts.
As a Boomer, one of my favorite hobbies is busting the
latch key kids a.k.a. Gen X (c. 1965-1985).
whaa, whaaa, whaaaa.
Way more fun than melting precious Snowflakes.
I believe it was in Plato’s Republic that he discussed the various forms of government ranking them and describing their flaws and idiosyncrasies. It is my recollection that democracies were somewhere near the bottom of the list. In our times we have given practical worship to the democratic forms of governance. Professor Morris Berman wrote an interesting book titled “Why America Failed.’ His thesis was that the seeds of our failure were built into our system of government. We were a nation of hustlers who have alas hustled ourselves right out of business. I would also add that the separation of powers is no guarantee that all three branches would not be co-opted by a greater power than the will of the people or that the will of the people would lead to its being co-opted in the end.
Civil War was fought over states rights , slavery was just one of the issues but the only one that ever gets attention .
The average American has been economically shaken down for decades and the financial elites and the academic elites who were untouchable in their towers of finance and education also government elites will no longer be tolerated . The shear largess of what is confiscated or siphoned out of the American middle class is no longer tolerable or affordable to support these leeches on society . Therefore they must be cut loose either willfully or by force .
The same threats and force against average Americans must be turned against those who benefited from our and our republics demise !
Grab a takeout Pizza and the beer of your choice.The Total Damn Collapse Of Higher Education will be worthy entertainment.
This should be really good.Escape from New York the Sequel. A real life romantic tragedy. Wonder who gets to play Snake Plisseken?????
I am OK with police defunding. Their funding was much higher than needed. What I am not OK with is police being told not to do their job.
Prohibition is a disastrous and asinine policy that does nothing but profit a few at the expense of the many. It sucks up most of the dollars spent on law enforcement. End prohibition and you can drastically cut cost, reduce crime, and improve safety.
I have no time for anyone discussing law enforcement who is not intelligent enough to understand those points.
Sorry Victor, but Robert E. Lee did not fight for a “terrible cause”. He fought because his beloved Virginia was invaded by Northerners. And he fought for States Rights and against an oppressive Federal Government. In The South the Civil War is known as The War Of Northern Aggression.