LLPOH: Three Out of Three Ain’t Bad

Despite what some may think, I as a rule do not hold grudges and rapidly forget disagreements and fights. I not only usually do not remember the reason for past conflicts but generally do not even recall they happened. The fact is, I hold no grudges against anyone who may read this. I do remember some conflicts, some that continue easily, but truly I do not have any grudges. Grudges are unproductive as a rule.

However, in my lifetime there have been three people that I have truly hated, and I expect I will carry that hate to my grave. I will never forgive, and never forget.


The first person to make this list of three falsely accused me, and caused me much trouble. I never understood the why of it. I in the end escaped the issue unscathed, but it could have gone badly for me.

The second to make the list crossed a line that should never be crossed. In truth, he deserved killing, and it was something I contemplated a great many times. Each time my hand was stayed owing to the damage it would have done to me and my family. But make no mistake, he deserved killing. He crossed a sacred line.

The third person to make the list betrayed me. I had helped this man for decades both professionally and personally. My intervention saved one of his sons from jail. Truth is, he owed me a great debt. But in the end, despite all of that, he betrayed me, and the hate I hold for that betrayal burns bright. It is actually the hardest to understand – for someone you trust, and have helped, to turn on you in an act of betrayal, is truly hard to understand and deal with. When confronted, his answer was he did it as he felt I would not find out it was him. And he was sorry. Only his age saved him from my wrath.

Long ago, person number one eventually crossed my path in what proved unfortunate circumstances for him, and the issue was settled and justice was done. It was in a time and a place that allowed for settling of disputes in such a direct fashion, and there were no repercussions. Although a measure of justice was done, forgiveness is not ever happening.

The second object of my enmity died a few months ago. It is unseemly I am certain, but his death provided some significant satisfaction, and has eliminated the occasional thoughts I have had about that individual.

The third person died last week. I am pleased the treacherous bastard is gone. However, I regret so many people do not understand what a hypocritical piece of dung he was. I receive calls asking if I had heard of his demise. It puts me in a quandary, as social norms are such that speaking ill if the dead is frowned upon. I simply say that I have heard, and say that he was not who you think he was, and I am not saddened by his passing.

Am I unique in these matters? Do any of you have such feelings about people that you have encountered throughout your lives? Is it wrong to truly hate someone who has done you a great wrong? Is it wrong to be satisfied when they fall?

I have had my butt well kicked without developing hatred. I have been stolen from, without becoming hate filled at the thief. I have forgotten almost all slights, and have forgiven, moved past, abandoned almost all grievances towards all people save these three. My heart eternally hardened toward them. And I am not sorry about it. I worry it is/was a bad thing, that it reflects poorly on me, but that is the truth of it. I am not a pacifist, and so far there have been three people I was unable to forgive for their actions against me, as their actions were so heinous. Hopefully I will encounter no others. In the meantime, I think about visiting their graves, doing the hornpipe, and signalling my satisfaction in at least one other way.

And to paraphrase Meatloaf, given I have now obtained as much satisfaction as is or was possible, three out of three ain’t bad. I lived to see them dead, or extracted justice. And I am content knowing it is so.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
July 7, 2021 11:46 pm

Harry was left to ponder in silence the depths to which girls would sink to get revenge. ~ J. K. Rowling

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 7, 2021 11:48 pm

But if there is any further injury, then you shall appoint as a penalty life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise. ~ Exodus 21:23-25

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 7, 2021 11:49 pm

I’m a fighter. I believe in the eye-for-an-eye business. I’m no cheek turner. I got no respect for a man who won’t hit back. You kill my dog, you better hide your cat. ~ Muhammad Ali

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 7, 2021 11:50 pm

We should forgive our enemies, but not before they are hanged.

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 7, 2021 11:51 pm

Revenge may be wicked, but it’s natural.

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 7, 2021 11:52 pm

When a man steals your wife, there is no better revenge than to let him keep her. ~ Sacha Guitry

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 7, 2021 11:53 pm

To exact revenge for yourself or your friends is not only a right, it’s an absolute duty.

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 7, 2021 11:54 pm

Funny thing about revenge. It could make a killer out of a nun.

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 7, 2021 11:54 pm

Revenge is sweet and not fattening. ~ Alfred Hitchcock

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
July 8, 2021 3:21 pm

Alfred Hitchcock was obese.

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 7, 2021 11:56 pm

For the longest time I studied revenge to the exclusion of all else. I built my first torture chamber in the dark vaults of imagination. Lying on bloody sheets in the Healing Hall I discovered doors within my mind that I’d not found before, doors that even a child of nine knows should not be opened. Doors that never close again. I threw them wide.

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 7, 2021 11:58 pm

TAKE AS MUCH REVENGE AS YOU CAN STAND ……. “but leave room for the wrath of God, for it is written, VENGEANCE IS MINE, I WILL REPAY, says the Lord.” ~ Romans 12:19

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 7, 2021 11:58 pm

For the taking of revenge, a man locks himself up alone and thinks. His stomach must be empty for his head to be full. Vengeance comes a little from the heart and a lot from the mind; one must take oneself apart from the noise of men and of things, even from what resembles them; only the voices of bells and of thunder are allowed. Let the room in which you meditate be dark, narrow and warm.

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 7, 2021 11:59 pm

Perish the universe, provided I have my revenge! ~ Savinien Cyrano de Bergerac

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 8, 2021 12:00 am

Serial killing is not about sex at all, but about power and control and revenge on society.

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 8, 2021 12:01 am

At this hour
Lie at my mercy all mine enemies. ~ William Shakespeare

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 8, 2021 1:55 am

Oh woe is me ….. everybody has been wronged by someone if they’ve lived long enough.

However, self-pity is a psychological state of mind of an individual in perceived adverse situations who has not accepted the situation and does not have the confidence nor ability to cope with it. It is characterized by a person’s belief that they are the victims of events and is therefore deserving of condolence.

People play the victim in all sorts of situations because they love the attention it brings them. By acting like a victim, you release your responsibility and put it on someone else. These people look at external factors for reasons to explain their distress or misery. They are unable to accept personal responsibility for their failures.

Isn’t it a lot easier just to sit back and to enjoy your life, rather than to actively complain about every aspect of it? To seek pity is disempowering and degrading; expecting people to feel sorry for you is downright manipulative. Some people just enjoy wallowing and like to insist how hard their lives are. These people are addicted to their own sob stories.

People who wallow in self-pity want validation for their feelings, justification for their tears and sorrows, and generally require the assistance of another person.

This is a huge indicator of insecurity. We seek pity because of this need for attention, and without pity, we think that others will not care about us. Pity helps to validate our feelings of inadequacy. This all goes back to a person’s self-esteem. Only through personal reflection can this insecurity be eliminated. Furthermore, laziness can be another reason for this sort of behavior. It takes far less effort to complain about something than it takes to get up and go do something about it.

The main issue with this type of person is that they choose to wallow in self-pity as opposed to seeking help. They use their “sadness” as an excuse to do nothing to improve their situations, even though they have the capability to do so.

Seek help. Get well soon. Live long and prosper.

~ Dr Emil Kraepelin

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Anonymous
July 8, 2021 8:43 pm

Dr Krapper – who you talking about? I enjoy my life. I am really going to enjoy it later with some friends and some fine booze and a nice bonfire.

Eyes Wide Shut
Eyes Wide Shut
July 8, 2021 3:26 am

It’s called a hit list of sh_t.
When things finally come completely unglued if they ever come across your path unintentionally or otherwise, well, you know.
Jut use your imagination.
Forgive me Jesus.

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 8, 2021 7:53 am

My mother always said to “speak good of the dead”. So now I say “good, they are dead”.

Cheeseball
Cheeseball
July 8, 2021 10:29 am

I am mostly a lurker on this site and get a feeling that you all know each other and have communicated a lot in the past. I am going to guess that many here can provide details but I can’t without digging.
There is a “Good Book” I’ve browsed that say to confess your sins one onto another. I just read what I feel is a very powerful confession. Congratulations. It also says he whose sins you shall forgive they are forgiven whose sins you shall retain they are retained.
Seems as though you have done your work and are on your way. Again Congratulations. Pacifism is a lifestyle choice.
God bless you

AL Tru
AL Tru
July 8, 2021 12:29 pm

We crusade to recover
the kingdom of Jerusalem.

You go to where the men speak Italian…

and then continue until
they speak something else.

We’ve come by this road to find Balian…

who was defender of Jerusalem.

I am the blacksmith.

And I am the king of England.

I am the blacksmith.

– ” Kingdom Of Heaven “

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 8, 2021 12:52 pm

Living well is the best revenge. I have been griviously wronged many times. Each time I was forced out of my comfort zone and made to improve myself and my situation through hard work and creative thinking. Each time I ended up better off than my antagonist and better off than I would have been if the anal orifice had never attacked me.

kevx
kevx
July 8, 2021 2:23 pm

LLoph, I am personally curious about an offense so great that it would be worthy of finality. my latest friend loss/betrayal, other than the ex and kids, was over a friend saying that he vowed to defend the republic/constitution against people like the insurrectionists, as he failed to realize that it is within our rights to pressure our reps to vote what the people want. But it was his vernacular regarding protecting against domestic enemies, as if he had every right to shoot them. As with LLoph, that sounds like an end of life statement to me!

BL
BL
  kevx
July 8, 2021 4:04 pm

kevx- This is the time we eliminate the morons from our lives and hang with like-minded, clear headed people that we can depend on if we should find that we need to do so. Life will get more difficult and we don’t need to waste time tolerating idiots. Good choice of action.

SeeBee
SeeBee
July 8, 2021 3:06 pm

After 15+ months of living among the covid obeyers, I have learned to love hate. Voila’, no more constipation.

Tilt
Tilt
July 8, 2021 4:34 pm

That’s a helluva thing to carry around; hate. I would ask my Lord to dispatch my foes daily, but the weight of these choices is more than humans can sustain. They live in your head when you don’t forgive, or at least move on mentally. In the end, they will be judged and dealt with much more harshly than I could dream up – whether you believe this or not. Personally, I’m not sure that I even allow people close enough to hurt me. I seem to be lacking the emotional gene. Like Sinatra used to say, “a friend in need is a pest”.

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 8, 2021 6:07 pm

WHAT A CIRCLE JERK OVER A GUY WHO FEELS THE NEED TO GET IN TOUCH WITH HIS INNER SELF OVER HIS OWN FEELINGS AND DESIRE FOR REVENGE.

And to think I just wasted a minute of my precious life on this pablum that makes me want to puke.

That’s the beauty of living in America . Each to their own and C’est la vie. ….. Savoir Faire Eess Everywhere.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Anonymous
July 8, 2021 8:48 pm

Well, whatever this article did, it provoked you to post. A worthless post, but the idea around here is to generate ideas, thoughts and commentary. It served its purpose.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Llpoh
July 9, 2021 4:47 pm

Yes … I knew it was worthless when I made it. That’s the difference between you and me. Your post is worthless, despite over 200 other worthless comments it generated.

I only posted from boredom and disbelief that so many would desire to commiserate and sympathize with You, rather than being “provoked” by the article itself. [see the definition of “provoke”]

But I do hope You find peace within Yourself and that life treats You better for the duration of time You may have left. Pax Vobiscum.

Stucky
Stucky
  Anonymous
July 9, 2021 5:50 pm

Just curious. When you were a kid — say, in 9th grade — was your goal in life to become a Dick?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stucky
July 9, 2021 7:05 pm

LUV You too, Stucky … at least I’m not the simpering weak shadow of a man that so many in this thread appear to be. They need to reach down between their legs just to make sure their balls are still there.

Like I asked somewhere else in this thread, why would anyone care what people thought of them enough to post such an essay? I could care less what people think of me, since my worth as a man isn’t based on the opinions of others.

That you may view me as a “Dick” is of no consequence to me.

Cunts, cuckolds, faggots and fairies, dick-suckers and weak simpering cheap imitations of men worry about their actions and try to explain themselves to others when no explanation need be given, nor in this case was it asked.

Stucky
Stucky
  Anonymous
July 9, 2021 7:41 pm

“Like I asked somewhere else in this thread, why would anyone care what people thought of them enough to post such an essay? “

I’ll answer your burning question if you tell me how long you’ve been reading TBP.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stucky
July 9, 2021 8:31 pm

That’s ok Stucky … It was actually more of a rhetorical question than anything. I don’t really care why.

The entire exercise was like pissing in the ocean and expecting it to rise a foot. In the end, all remains the same regarding the offenders and the aggrieved.

I came across TBP a few months ago and drop in from time to time. It does have some excellent articles posted from time to time. This just wasn’t one of them.

Stucky
Stucky
  Anonymous
July 9, 2021 9:12 pm

I’ll tell you anyway.

Llpoh as been here 10 or so years, as have I. We have many long timers here.

What happens is that people (usually) GRADUALLY release small bits of personal information. Sometimes it’s intentional, sometimes not.

I, for example, exposed my grief and sorrow for all to see when my dad and wife died.

And then over a period of YEARS slowly, but suddenly, you know an awful lot about that person. Then you start caring. Before you know it, even doing good deeds starts to take place.

I won’t bore you with all the nice things folks have done for me … but it’s not trivial.

WE MAKE FRIENDS HERE. Yes, it is possible to make friends over the internet, with people we probably will never meet … I have seen and experienced it with my own eyes.

Llpoh is one of those people. Which is why I called you a dick, cuz you jumped all over my friend without cause. He’s opinionated, never wrong, and brags too much about his schwantz. But, he’s also a terrific guy, and I think you’d really like him if you got to know him.

BTW, Llpoh is generally a private guy. I don’t even know how many kids he has! So, a post like this is unusual for him. I was thrilled to read it, to see him open up a bit.

For some, this is a place to just comment about politics, economics, whatever … and to hell with getting personal. We have regulars here who do so and, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that. Feel free to join that crowd.

For others, this place is like FAMILY. And families share …. like this article by Chief Llpoh.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stucky
July 9, 2021 9:26 pm

Thank You, Stucky. I see Your point. It’s something if you can say you have even one true friend these days, and so I accept this essay in the new light you have shone upon it.

Every friend I’ve ever had in life is in the grave. But that’s just the way it is. Life. We live with what we’re dealt and what we can make for ourselves along the way.

Perhaps I’ll be less a Dick in the future and work on my manners and ability to emphasize with another. Pax Vobiscum

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Anonymous
July 9, 2021 10:34 pm

Hi Stuck – pretty accurate observations. I wrote this as it is something that reared it’s head recently, that I thought some would relate to, given hate/anger is a pretty universal emotion, and because the inability to understand how someone would repay loyalty with betray has vexed me for some time.

I expected there would be two camps, and lo and behold so it generally seems is the case.

I appreciate all the thoughts that have been shared herein.

Stucky
Stucky
  Anonymous
July 10, 2021 6:13 am

“I see Your point … and so I accept this essay in the new light you have shone upon it.”

It is a rather rare occasion when someone admits “Hey, I was wrong, I’ll do/see/act differently from now on”. Very rare. THANK YOU for that.

One moar thing. Families also fight. And boy, oh boy, I’ve had some doozie shitfests with my friends over the years. But, here’s the thing …the vast majority is quick to forgive, and forget!

Llpoh, Arch, Mygirl, BL, flash and many others — even Admin — have been kind enough to forgive ol’ Stucky when I was a total DICK!

You will be treated the same way. Stick around. Really. Post more often Let us get to know you better. I daresay you may find you’ll make a few friends.

===========

It’s a shame you post as Anonymous. How will we know it’s YOU posting, as opposed to any other number of Anonymous posters??

I don’t know why folks post as Anons — it’s no protection at all from Da Bastards Who Spy On Us — so, maybe you might consider a unique identifier?

OTOH, if you continue to sign off with “Pax Vobiscum” … that’s unique and will work also.

Regardless, welcome to TBP, Mr. Vobiscum!

Ghost
Ghost
  Anonymous
July 10, 2021 2:10 pm

I submitted a comment earlier which fell into the spam bucket I guess. It wasn’t profound, but a simple question asking how long you have been here?

I decided to come by and explain why I asked but I see Stuckenheimer has pretty much covered most of my points.

My comment was going to explain why TBP is such a unique blogspot and I was going to segue into a charming story about a guy who raises chickens, piglets and rabbits. Meat rabbits and he was to be my partner in Say Yer Prayers, Rabbit! meat business. Now, he is still filling the orders for the restaurant guy willing to buy twenty or thirty at a time and from time to time, I help him process his rabbits.

Because it is a lot easier to do with a little help from a friend. Otherwise, you begin to feel like a really bad person for sitting there killing cute rabbits.

So, while I haven’t fallen off the pet-rabbit marketing bandwagon officially, I did pull Thumper out of retirement.

And, that is what makes TBP a unique blogspot. A few people are probably glad to read this little update on the meat rabbit industry and they might also be interested to know they do sell for 10 to 15 dollars each, dressed. But, since I can sell them just weaned for at least 10 to Farm and Ranch stores, it isn’t much of a profit. At least, not for me.

And, as for LLPOH’s story? I’ve been around here a long time and, like others, am glad to have another piece of the Big Chief puzzle to ponder. I used to think him a pompous ass and now I know he is a very intelligent, pragmatic and shrewd pompous ass.

And, he will appreciate that even if he won’t admit it.

Stucky
Stucky
  Ghost
July 10, 2021 2:22 pm

Nicely said.

I covered his schwantz. You covered his ass. What a tag team!!

Ghost
Ghost
  Stucky
July 10, 2021 3:37 pm

Not gonna give me a guilt trip for killing rabbits?

Ghost
Ghost
  Ghost
July 10, 2021 9:35 pm

Good, because I knew he needed to get some rabbits into the freezer but he has a club foot and is 68 years old. I’ve come to accept that he was put in my path to test me.

After we finished the task, I helped him get them dressed for the freezer. He was being a bit particular about any bits of innards left inside and so I told him I was going to get on home and have dinner with my husband. He told me to tell Nick thanks for trusting him with his wife and I was so touched, I told him he was a great friend to us both because Nick gets the pick of the pullets. He lives on whatever Social Security disability pays someone limited in abilities, educated through high school but not really capable of much more than a subsistence living.

He is a devoted Christian and the reason I continue to interact with him is because I happened to stop by to check on him the day the quarantine started and he was crying because his church was going to close its doors until the quarantine was lifted. He said “Marfa?” (He also has a speech impediment.)

“Marfa? Who is going to talk to me about God if I can’t go to church?”

I told him I would stop by a couple times a month and gave him my phone number. I can’t understand half of what he says but he’s become part of our lives.

And, apparently, here am I.

He told me that he had prayed to God that someone would come help him kill the rabbits and I realized God sent me.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Llpoh
July 9, 2021 4:56 pm
Harvey Jones
Harvey Jones
July 8, 2021 10:07 pm

If you believe in Jesus you must forgive. I don’t pretend to know you but that is the truth for a christian. If you are a christian then I don’t have to tell you more than that. Make peace with God through forgiveness.

Stucky
Stucky
  Harvey Jones
July 8, 2021 10:19 pm

“If you are a christian …”

Actual video of Llpoh worshiping in his back yard in Australia.

Click the “Watch On Youtube. It’s a beautiful thing, really.

https://youtu.be/XPpox70YteU

Stucky
Stucky
  Stucky
July 8, 2021 10:27 pm

Now, concerning the above video, I DO NOT MEAN TO OFFEND ANYONE, but I find it odd that a Native American would adopt White Man’s religion … especially when you consider what said White Man did to them.

It would be like mooslimfuks capturing America, slaughtering us by the millions, and then I adopt Islam?? Not hardly!!

Yeah, yeah, I know … the color of Jesus’ skin is irrelevant. BUT, this vid below? Fucked up, man!!! Native American Ambassadors to Israel? WTF!!!!!

TS
TS
July 8, 2021 10:15 pm

200!!!!

Been a long time since I got an Llpoh double-tap.

RedPillXR
RedPillXR
July 9, 2021 2:02 pm

My list is longer. But my soul is weaker. Thanks for your honesty.

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 9, 2021 4:36 pm

“Despite what some may think …” — And just why do you care what anyone thinks. You made your choices as did others. Live with the consequences of your own actions or lack of action that has left you feeling like a eunuch. Suck it up buttercup and find the balls you’ve sucked up in your belly somewhere and deal with your life as it is without throwing your garbage out in public for everyone to sift through and dissect and throw out their own miserable shit and psychobabble.

Yep … this gives new meaning to the term “circle-jerk”. UUuuGgHhhhhhhh …..

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 9, 2021 4:57 pm
robert orians
robert orians
July 9, 2021 8:53 pm

I can tell you all the why’s and about how you should forgive them all but I cannot do that myself and I refuse to be a hypocrite . Having punched an enemies mouth and felt that wonderful crunching of choppers breaking under my assault I can only testify as to that feeling of vengeance accomplished . It is an enjoyable moment .

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 9, 2021 10:11 pm
Michael Calabrese
Michael Calabrese
July 10, 2021 12:09 pm

Very very normal feelings. I know exactly what you went through and believe me I felt exactly as you do. This country went wrong when we banned dueling. Also when we banned Public Hangings I am NOT JOKING

CockEyeNick King of Hauling
CockEyeNick King of Hauling
July 10, 2021 12:14 pm

Any normal human being would ( or perhaps would say must) feel as you do. I have had similar experiences, & like you it was the thought of my family being ruined, as well as my life destroyed that “stayed my hand of vengeance”

But now, My “most hated list ” has been revised. It is a list of groups, I would celebrate if they all got a brain tumor the size of an apple

1) The guy who said “You will own nothing, you will eat meat once a year, etc etc)

2) The sick Hungarian immigrant fuck that spend 100’s of MM getting DA’s elected, thinks he is a god, ( he actually said that)

3) A stupid doof that built the largest Software Co. You cannot buy a computer without his shit OS on it, He wants depopulation & is a self anointed expert on Vaccines. He has KILLED Millions on The African continent with his vaccine programs(he’s going through a divorce right now

4) Another scumbag started out as an online book seller, now is among the uber rich. His net worth doubled during the scandemic shutdown of small businesses

5) The group of social media platform moguls (Meeting right now in Idaho)

6) Uber wealthy pricks that all own “Philanthropic Foundations” and “Know what is best for us “peasants”

7) politicians that enable the above because those above own them

Unslung Hero
Unslung Hero
July 10, 2021 1:42 pm

I cannot say I have any great personal betrayals to dwell upon as my life has been good, BUT those such as Pelosi, Barack, Emanuel, V Jarret and many others of that era have done so much damage to our country that I feel the cure for treason is not excessive in their case. I’d water their graves any day…………