READER COMMENT:
Here’s some interesting math for you.
Number needed to vaccinate is 142 for Pfizer. (Moderna is 88 but I’ll use Pfizer for the demonstration).
So with Pfizer you need to vaccinate 117 people to prevent one CASE of covid.
The current survival rate of covid is 99.86%, so approximately 1 death per thousand cases. So the NNV to prevent one covid DEATH is 117,000.
In the first 6 months of 2021, 134 million people were fully vaccinated in the US. VAERS listed 10,335 vaccine related deaths by that point, about 56 per day. Vaers has been proven to be under-reported but let’s use it as a very rough conservative estimate.
So the 134 million / 10,355 = 12,940 … one death per 12,940 covid vaccinations.
So if you vaccinate 117,000 people to save one covid death, 117,000/12,940 = 9.04 people will have died from the vaccine.
This is likely on the low end and also doesn’t include all the non-mortality vaccine side effects. It also doesn’t include the non mortality effects of covid either.
Interesting numbers though regardless.
Best regards
Rodger
REPLY: Very interesting analysis. There was a family friend who was in good health at 76. He was vaccinated, and suddenly within a month, he ended up in the hospital. One organ after the other was failing then came back. He finally recovered, but nobody could explain what the hell was going on. The doctors simply said they had never seen this before. It was like a mouse running around inside him, moving from one organ to the next. This is one giant experiment, and now Pfizer is claiming it is safe for 5-year-olds. But they are exempt from all liability and are making more money than ever. But we should trust them?
The FDA has been compromised. They are taking money from Bill Gates, who then, in turn, makes money from his ownership in Pfizer. If anyone did this in any other stock, the SEC would be dragging them in court. They took Elon Musk to court for simply saying he would take the company private. Bill Gates has so many conflicts of interest that we can NO LONGER trust the Biden Administration, the FDA, CDC, or Fauci.
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This with faulty testing:
The CDC Montana data in July and September of this year [state that] per capita survival in Montana
is 99.9%, and the survival rate per Covid (+) person has actually improved in two months from 98.5 to 98.7%…How does this translate into a crisis?!?!
Note from the data that the number of Montanans who tested (+) for Covid is < 13% of the population of Montana, even though more tests have been done than the stated population of Montana. Understand also that CDC data is always going to provide worst case scenario numbers that the public generally acknowledges is inflated.
Most of us haven’t trusted any Presidential Administration since we saw what Ollie North got away with in Arkansas.
I think it is very much related to the topic at hand, so bear with me for just a tad.
I can believe Ronald Reagan, perhaps in very early stages of senility (but nothing like this wreck of a human being in office now), would be susceptible to the behind the scenes wheeling and dealing military liaison types are always up to, especially when there are high-dollar military contracts involved, especially those hidden from the public view. Those days are where the public-private nature of military oversight changed.
Reagan trusted his advisors too much and/or Reagan’s advisors learned how to take advantage of his gregarious nature. However you feel about Ollie North, you have to admit he was a savvy young military officer who knew how to position himself. I remember there being a photo of him with a couple of Generals and the comment by one of the Generals was that they had no idea who he was when he just stepped up and had his aid take a photo. Ollie was a very good PR guy. He managed to make at least some people believe running drugs and guns out of Mena, Arkansas was just an innovative way to serve his country.
I was active duty USAF then and remember what happened when a new war on drugs was declared.
There is a drug epidemic in this country right now. The guns will not be far behind.
Biden is the Lame Duck Grifter. He has sold the country down the river.
One thing I’m not sure I concur with in Armstrong’s calculation: “The current survival rate of covid is 99.86%”.
I wonder whether an infection fatality rate of only .14% might be taking into account people who have been vaccinated (and gotten from the vaccine some mitigation of symptoms). The fact that I’m firmly against any vaccine mandates and that I think the trade-off on being vaccinated is net negative for people under about age 40 or 50 (and criminal to push onto kids) doesn’t mean I won’t concede any benefit to the vaccines.
The IFR in 2020 seemed to be about .30% – .35%, taking into account that the true number of infectees was almost certainly 4-5 times higher than the officially diagnosed number. Antibody surveys by the CDC and Mayo Clinic imply that almost almost half the country had been exposed by spring of 2021.
It seems implausible that the IFR would have fallen from .3% to .14% when we know that the standard course of treatment hasn’t changed: “Go home and do nothing. If you get really sick, come back to the hospital and we’ll give you this expensive but worthless Remdesivir and then maybe put you on a respirator until you die.”
I’m nit-picking, though. There’s no goddamn reason to vaccinate anyone under 30 and certainly not kids. No one should be coerced into taking these “vaccines”. They don’t stop spread and are probably causing the virus to select for more contagious variants (although even that doesn’t worry me). If some fatties or octogenarians want to get a vaccine, God bless ’em, but we know this whole plandemic has been all about forced vaccination, vaccine passports and instituting a social credit passport system.
>doesn’t mean I [IW] won’t concede any benefit to the vaccines.
Well you’re looking at it wrong.
The question is not if vaccines have any benefit compared to doing nothing, but if they have a benefit compared to taking Ivermectin for example. And that’s even before taking potential downsides (=risks) into account.
Compared to doing nothing the “vaccines” are a disaster. If nothing had been done last year the whu who flu would have been gone by the end of May 2020.
Sounds nice now, but would you have known that in March 2020 already?
I try to avoid MMQing.
When you consider that the MRNA shots were designed to lessen symptoms not give immunity and not prevent transmission, then compare that to the definition of a “leaky vaccine” then you will start to get pissed off and you should be. Everyone should be angry enough to hang people from lamp posts.
The MRNA shots are at the very minimum driving the evolution of the virus into something worse.
excerpt about leaky vaccines:
These less-than-perfect vaccines create a “leaky” barrier against the virus. Vaccinated individuals may get sick but have less severe symptoms, but the virus survives long enough to transmit to others, which allows it to survive and spread throughout a population.
“Our research demonstrates that the use of leaky vaccines can promote the evolution of nastier ‘hot’ viral strains that put unvaccinated individuals at greater risk,” Nair said.
Marek’s disease used to be a minor ailment that did little harm to chickens in the 1950s, but the virus has grown stronger and today is capable of killing all the unvaccinated birds in poultry flocks, sometimes within 10 days.
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/leaky-vaccines-can-produce-stronger-versions-of-viruses-072715
The behavior of a leaky vaccine and the MRNA shots are identical. It follows if one promotes variant evolution so would the other.
Not only is there no benefit to the “vaccines” the more people that get them the more danger to everyone.
The word leaky would indicate that the shots were actually able to stop something and that is just not so. They stop and lessen squat.
In the early days of convid, there were a lot of old folks who died and/or were killed by politicians and bureaucrat putting infected into nursing homes. IMO, the easy deaths are behind us, thus the deathrate should be decreasing.
I believe that getting the vaccine would probably affect my aim so I’m seeking an optical exemption based on three shot groupings..they may get worse with the Frankenjab.
“88”, you say? Hmmmm ….
Would be interesting to know if medical malpractice cases have drastically dropped as everything can now be attributed to the Covid.
That is a damned good question.
“one death per 12,940 covid vaccinations.”
For now,give it a few years and it’s going to be more like one death per one covid vachination.
Don’t know if this fits here but it’s usefull info for anyone looking for cheap pletiful quinine.
By far the cheapest/best way to go is to make “Quina” (quinine) tea from Cinchona bark. Get the totally unprocessed bark (bigger pieces) if possible. Make the tea strong – it’s cheap – and it will be every bit as effective as the hydroxy-chloro-quine pill format product because of the high molecular (molar) concentration of the tea. Drinking tonic/quinine water (with zinc) is better than nothing in a pinch but a whole lot of it will have to be consumed (I would try at least a 12-pack of cans per day and pop some zinc tabs with it). Get quinine (cinchona) bark from Starwest-Botanicals.com or mountainroseherbs.com.
4) Or get quercitin (or ECGC) over the counter and use them per usual with zinc, C and D. It’s not nearly as effective but good enough if you use plenty of it – especially for prevention or the 1st days of a COVID (or flu/cold) infection.
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First Comment from David S
I ordered ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine and zithromax from Grant Pharmacy. No prescription needed, reasonable prices with small to large quantity options. I don’t know why some online pharmacies require prescriptions and others do not. Grant only ships to the USA.
https://www.grantpharmacy.com/
Taken from
https://www.henrymakow.com/2021/09/pharmacists-tips-on-ivermectin.html?_ga=2.201628886.613169715.1632358583-346964864.1627224119
While you’re stocking up on all the Covid medication, you should order a walker too. You have the same chance of falling down and dying.
I don’t use them. I put that up for people who do and might want SHTF cheap source of quinine.
I just got this Update from Insulin Hub, they shipp from India, taking about three weeks, who I have received three orders of human Ivermectin and HCQ, and two other drugs from.
I have given 50 12mg Ivermectin tablets (10 each) to five people (two a day for five days) who were not jabbed, and came down with Covid bad, and who all were terrified about going to a hospital.
I know a bunch of others who recovered without taking any drug, but these five were really sick.
All of them had it for days…so none of them started taking it early as recommended.
All five completely recovered within a week. They all felt better within three days.
My last order was $125 for 30 12mg Ivermectin tablets that cost about 10 cents each.
Insulin Hub is making huge money…but that is how corrupt and evil the other MIC (the Medical Industrial Establishment) is…forcing us to go outside our own country to get this inexpensive wonder drug.
SEPTEMBER UPDATE
Shipping delays by USPS, but we have full inventory and NEW COVID home tests.
Dear TBP Mick/Wop mark,
This past month has been difficult for delivery times as USPS has taken an extra 2 weeks to scan parcels once reaching the US. This has led to confusion on parcel tracking as the USPS tracking is only updated when the USPS scans that very order in and moves it forward. Once you have a tracking number, we assure you that the order is shipped and on its way.
Sorry to all of our Canadian customers who have their packages rejected by Canada Customs – we are currently not able to ship to Canada because of this issue.
We have full stock on all our COVID medicines. We also advise that best ivermectin value is in the 12mg strength which can be split.
We have stock of the home COVID test by Abbott (equivalent to the Binax Now). This product is in short supply all over the world but we have secured 1000 boxes for our current customers. All prices include international shipping and handling with tracking:
https://insulinhub.com/product/1307/buy_Abbott_COVID_Antigen_Self-Test
We are still in business and thanks to you thousands of people have gained access to the medicine they need. For our customers who want regular medicines to keep more in hand or because they are paying out of pocket for medicine, please email a picture of the bottle or a prescription and we can fill those orders also usually at 50 to 70% lower than US prices.
Tell a friend and earn $50 credit – just have them give us your name or your refer code: KGY62T and they will also get $20 off their first order with us. Pass the customer on to our online physician form:
I have posted this many times:
BUY IVERMECTIN AND OR HCQ THROUGH THE INTERNET
INSULIN-HUB:
https://www.insulinhub.com/
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/insulinhub.com
Here is their phone number… 718-312-8727.
Ask for Andrew James (he is Canadian) – good guy, super helpful. Now you will pay a little more through Insulin Hub but you will get it, they won’t bill your cc until it’s delivered, I have turned on dozens of people who got the product.
Yep, I ordered my stash from insulinhub, sent to a Central Europe country.
Not sure how you got to $125 for your order; I paid $215 for 60 x 6mg (without the doxy), that includes shipping. On each of my boxes-of-10 it is written “M.R.P. Rs 16.00 per 1 tablet”, so I take that as 16 INR (Indian Rupees) per tablet, which is US$0.22 – but no matter, I’m happy to have gotten them at all!
Their recent email about ‘Shipping delays by USPS’ had me grinning a bit- my order took 4 weeks to arrive in Europe anyways.
As I don’t know anybody who has gotten Covid so far, I cannot provide any circumstantial evidence if those help or not…
Just for the record my last job was with Pfizer and I QUIT after 7 months making alot of $. It’s not always about the $. I have pride in my work. They were just a horrible organization. And I really need a job. Just not at the cost of my ethics.
When the US government absolves of Pharma from any lawsuit, who the heck knows what’s in those jabs. Me no way Jose.
No one, repeat no one is “vaccinated” against anything with these freaking shots, period. Not one life has been saved, not one person has been prevented from getting the whu who flu, not one. However thousands have been killed and seriously injured by the “vaccines”. Those who consider themselves fortunate at not having had any adverse reactions are now the longer term lab rats. Let’s see what happens this flu season and next year. We have to bring this insanity to a full stop. A virus with a 99.8% recovery rate is not as deadly as influenza A or B.