A Contrarian View of the Virus Hoax

Guest Post by Hardscrabble Farmer

I am neither a doctor nor a scientist and nothing I write should be taken as medical advice.

Good, now that we’ve dispensed with the obvious, let me share my perspective on the collective insanity I have witnessed over the course of the last two years.

I do not know what a virus is, although I have my own thoughts on it, but I reject completely the explanations that have been offered by the scientific establishment. The only facts I have to rely on are those of personal experiences over the course of my lifetime, so these too are merely anecdotal, but still they fit nicely in the scientific model which begins with observation.

A virus is- if nothing else- a variable and imprecise form of pathogen. Its effects are notorious for being wildly erratic. If you were to shoot a hundred people with a small caliber weapon, there would be a hundred different wounds, but every single victim would suffer the effects of the projectile. It has- in short- an efficacy rate of 100%. Viruses on the other hand do not seem to affect people in a uniform fashion. We are told that viruses are airborne bits of pathogen- not unlike a lead projectile- yet when they make contact with the victim, some are affected while others are not.

This should call into question the premise of what a virus is- a physical body that makes contact from the outside, for example, or a byproduct of a naturally occurring process within our body, like pus. Throughout history, at least the last several hundred years, it has been known that these viruses affect the sick, elderly and the very young at a far larger proportion than the healthy and the fit in the peak years of life. There have been exceptions, of course, but that is assuming that every effort was made to determine the actual vigor and internal health of those people who appeared to be fit.

It also excludes the treatments utilized by the medical establishment to remedy the symptoms of that illness. At different times in human history, those who served as physicians have administered all kinds of lethal treatments in the course of trying to save their patients; bloodletting, poisoning with heavy metals, etc. One can dismiss these earlier forms of medicine as outdated, but at the time they appeared as cutting-edge methods supported by the entire weight of the medical establishment. To assume that everything we do today is flawless and perfect is an egregious error in judgement. Our knowledge is not some finite resource, but an ever-expanding collection of data that is only as effective as the judgement of those using it.

To say that the mistakes and falsehoods from medical and scientific authorities since this alleged virus reach our shores in early 2019 are incalculable is an understatement. 2 weeks to flatten the curve, tens of millions dead, masks don’t work/masks work/masks required/masks not required, etc. We’ve been promised that the vaccine would return us to normal, told that the vaccine would end the pandemic, then that it was really just to mitigate symptoms, then that it was only something that worked for short periods of time.

I don’t want to rehash the entirety of this slapdash approach to handling a problem that we spend trillions of dollars and decades preparing for only to look as if we could never see it coming because anyone reading this could think of far more than I could list. It is simply a synopsis to remind one another that the people who claim to be experts are nothing of the sort, and if they are, their expertise is sorely lacking.

I suggested the kinds of solutions I would have employed had the decision been mine, but much like the solutions I have for the alleged climate crisis, they would be dismissed because all of them radically alter our current paradigm and would change the globalist structure of our societies utterly and completely. The elimination of air travel, the closure of urban centers and the dispersion of the population to rural areas. The end of the industrial food complex, the radical limitation of the pharmaceutical monopolies, the promotion of food production at the family level, the need for physical fitness throughout life, not in gyms, but in outdoor labor.

The end of immigration and migration for any purpose and the restriction of industry to a fraction of its current state. If viruses actually travel in human hosts as the establishment suggests, then the only rational choice to protect populations from an outbreak would be isolation from hosts travelling to foreign lands without first quarantining them for a lengthy period at their own expense.

I could go on, but you get the picture. Modern post-industrial globalism would die on the vine and our access to foreign goods would be severely curtailed. Thus, decisions were made to maintain these petri dishes at the expense of the public health because in the final analysis, International economics and the consolidation of power centers are far more valuable than human life on any scale.

My own belief has developed over these past two years by a diligent and unrelenting inquisition into the causes of these symptoms- for that’s all we really have to look at. Brightly colored CGI images of spiked corona viruses do not count as evidence, nor do the assurances of governments that lie the same way the Sun rises and sets. Trust has been completely eroded to such a point that my initial assumption when I hear anything from official source is that it must be a lie. I haven’t been affected by the virus, nor by any other strain of the flu, no colds, no sickness of any kind since I changed my lifestyle over a decade ago.

As many of you have read over the years, I deal with far more pathogens in a given day than the next hundred people randomly picked from the population. I live amongst flocks of poultry and sheep, herds of swine and cattle, enormous windrows of composting manure, daily pickups of refuse from restaurants and grocery stores. I do not wear gloves or masks unless I am going to be exposed to dust or sparks and while I take personal hygiene seriously, the number of times I have eaten food with dirty hands or been cut or scratched by some filthy object are uncountable and yet I have not fallen ill, despite my advanced years.

If I were to guess at the source of the current health crisis it would be the poor health of a malnourished, obese, overly-medicated, under-exercised population that spends the bulk of their day either sedentary or indoors. It would be the establishment that clings desperately to their illusory power based on lies upon lies heaped into mountains of fabricated gibberish that has led to a global enslavement. It is the loss of personal autonomy, the near permanent anxiety that instead of being examined is medicated into a stupor with alcohol, SSRI’s and media distractions. It is the broken family structures, the alienated communities filled with aliens and hostiles, each grasping for their small share of an ever-diminishing pie.

It is the result of a commitment to the status quo, the ceaseless acquisitiveness, the exploitation of the young and the desperate, the illusory nature of celebrity and updated apps at the expense of long held traditions and values. My own thought is that viruses- if they exist at all- are merely the body’s own waste, an attempt to cleanse itself of the built-up poisons of chemical dependency, pent up rage and frustrations, the concentrated pathogen of a nihilistic existence, cut off from not only the Creator, but creation itself.

Whatever these hideous and psychopathic authorities promote; I eschew.

The palliative cures of a thoroughly corrupted medical establishment, the slapdash chemical compounds promoted by billionaires, the endless stream of nonsensical panaceas trotted out by obstreperous psychopaths from their podiums and zoom meetings are no more effective than an armload of leeches or a tumbler filled with mercury administered to a dying patient.

I don’t know, nor do I care if this was manufactured in a laboratory in Wuhan, or just a hijacking of the annual flu bug for efficacy, but I do know a liar when I see one, like I can discern the difference between an ash and a maple. I choose to live as I do because I trust my conscience far more than I do some puffed up mandarin sitting in a well-appointed office on the Potomac and I choose to place my confidence in something far more powerful than all the governments of the world combined.

I do know that whatever damage has been wrought by some virus- allegedly- pales in comparison to the wreckage left in the wake of its supposed treatment; the broken friendships, the lonely deaths in isolation, the shuttered churches, the masked children being raised in an atmosphere of perpetual fear, the strained familial relationships and a permanently ruined economy that will never recover. The people behind these catastrophic failures of leadership and the abdication of any morality beyond what is expedient and profitable has divided the population in a way that nothing short of open warfare could have.

These people are not gods, they are not even experts, they are nothing more than cleverly concealed sociopaths bent on the destruction of everything they have no part of and could never hope to experience in their empty, hollow lives. That we have allowed them to accomplish this speaks more to our failure than to their success, but then end has yet to be determined.

There may be a virus, but it pales before the threat of our own species, hell bent on driving us all to a destination of their own choosing.

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237 Comments
oldtimer505
oldtimer505
November 28, 2021 2:28 pm

Amen to them having hollow lives & being sociopaths. However, lets not slight the ones that have turned into psychopaths. They have truly moved into the castles they have constructed in their minds and the sky.

IronHandAstarte
IronHandAstarte
  oldtimer505
December 1, 2021 12:05 pm

Shame on us then, for not finding a more suitable retirement home for their Re-Location.

mapletruck
mapletruck
  oldtimer505
December 2, 2021 8:21 am

As the old saying goes “kill em all let God sort em out”.

Michael J Clare
Michael J Clare
November 28, 2021 3:00 pm

As always, well said…

Montefrío
Montefrío
November 28, 2021 3:02 pm

[T]he dispersion of the population to rural areas.

One hopes it would be voluntary, not Cultural Revolution “hsia fang” (夏芳) style, or, worse yet, a la Pol Pot.

I live in a rural area, grow some of my own food, touch lots of dirt, etc., am in quite good condition for a 75yr old, spend time otdoors, etc., and live in a country (Argentina) that I’ve long viewed as the final frontier for Western Civilization. Outside of the three main metropoli that contain maybe half the country’s population, the population density is a bit less than Mongolia and a bit more than Libya. Plenty of room here for the enterprising, but the gov discourages anyone from coming.

My rural are, among others, is growing by leaps andbounds with urban refugees. The family water well drilling biz has back orders piling up, but a repeat contract down in the oil fields has proven too lucrative to pass up. There is lots of ground water, areas just begging for wells and irrigation, but this is Argentina (“T.I.A.” as we used to say about Africa during my time there) and it’s too little known by English speakers. Sad, that. Temperate climate, fertile soil with some water and soil-reconstruction, but a political system that kills incentive, a monetary system that is a laughing stock…. This covid nonsense has done immense damage to this country as well and there’s little relief in sight.

Nevertheless, I’ve been here 18 years, my son for nine of them and I still have faith in the place.

Ginger
Ginger
  Montefrío
November 28, 2021 7:22 pm

Near the Misiones area by chance? Good tea growing climate.

Montefrío
Montefrío
  Ginger
November 29, 2021 10:27 am

No, I live in central Argentina: Traslasierra, Córdoba. Misiones is a bit on the funky side.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
November 28, 2021 3:10 pm

Sociopaths. Yes. And they exist at every level. The rot starts at the head and spreads to the rest of the body until every part of it is corrupted. It makes all of society sick on every front.

It will take a purge of epic proportions to set things right, not again, but for once. I don’t want the old ‘normal’ back. I want a world awakened. It’s almost time for the trash to be taken out.

Dangerous Variant
Dangerous Variant
  Francis Marion
November 29, 2021 3:13 pm

Yes Francis, the desperate desire in even those awake to the evil to return to the before times of 2019 is the cry of a child for the comforts of familiar abuse and indignities.

This is one of the more disturbing aspects to the current year; the two fronts of the war on our people tug at those souls awakened by the torment, iterating between bigger sticks and the carrot of yesterdays stick.

When the rot is so extreme that the solution necessitates the extreme, there is no going back and so even those who can see are wont to negotiate. Which of course is copespeak for surrender and just what the sociopath solves for anyhow: the mark surrenders with the illusion of some power.

As HS points out, the trade-offs ignored by our current overlords and the public at-large vis a vis the actual wuhan threat and the response, are those that even a godless, heartless utilitarian culture would have tabulated in their balance sheet. Yet our smarter than ever before super sciency global one world all in this together progressive culture decides to chain us all to ruin and dehumanizing torment that continues to this day.

When we stopped smashing the sociopaths head in with a rock we started down a long path of pain. Now our institutions of power are led by them and their useful idiot cultists. That is Progress.

Ken31
Ken31
  Dangerous Variant
November 29, 2021 5:44 pm

That really is key. This civilization didn’t make it this far by routinely allowing sociopaths to live. Allowing them access to power is obviously the path to ruin. So, what systems might be able to screen out sociopaths?

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Ken31
November 29, 2021 5:56 pm

There’s only one but we no longer have the stomach for it.

Dangerous Variant
Dangerous Variant
  hardscrabble farmer
November 30, 2021 12:10 pm

I hold onto the hope that we will not reach the point when it is the emptiness in our stomachs that reunites us with this resolve, but often find myself hungry for evidence to the contrary.

ursel doran
ursel doran
  hardscrabble farmer
November 30, 2021 5:25 pm

Hope Admin will forgive this second posting but this is a really big deal.
Austrian lays out the Nano carbon in the vaccine. “Non degradable razor blades in the blood stream.”
I can see no reason to disbelieve this guy’s explanation of the carbon in the “vaccine”.

MURDER! Just Hours After Publishing the Secret of the Vaxx, Dr Noack is DEAD

mapletruck
mapletruck
  Ken31
November 30, 2021 4:16 pm

Fantastic point .

Doc
Doc
  Ken31
November 30, 2021 9:41 pm

The gallows within the hour of the guilty verdict. This needs to apply equally to lying politicians, felons (including car thieves – they used to hang horse thieves – today’s car is yesterday’s horse), and corrupt judges and bureaucrats.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
November 28, 2021 3:14 pm

Great song. I too find myself in doubt as to what I’ve learned viruses to be. I believe none of what any proclaimed expert says. I believe a book and that is enough for me.

Red River D
Red River D
  grace country pastor
November 28, 2021 8:02 pm

“…I believe none of what any proclaimed expert says…”

Have you come all the way out of this world’s lies, Pastor? For my meaning, I would point to what believing geologists have to say about the age of this earth.

Do you believe what the Word teaches about the age of the heavens and the earth?

For me, that was the final straw and once I slipped the bond of the world’s lies on that topic, I swore I would never give the lies of man the benefit of the doubt when confronted with the so-called contradictions between science and Scripture.

13 billion years. Lies and damnable lies.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Red River D
November 28, 2021 8:06 pm

Coming to the realization, later in life, that Gen 1-11 are accurate portrayals of history were foundation shattering to say the least…

Red River D
Red River D
  grace country pastor
November 28, 2021 9:24 pm

When I learned that lesson it all clicked.

From that day on, I care not what ANY expert or authority says. If it contradicts what God has spoken, let God be true and man the liar.

And no looking back.

Phantom lurking
Phantom lurking
  Red River D
November 29, 2021 9:55 pm

This earth could have been, most probably was, used many times…destroyed by God then used again. After Noah’s flood, God said He would not destroy the earth with water again, next time would be with fire, and He placed the rainbow as His covenant.
Also, in Genesis, water was not created, it was already here (from a prior flood?). God just separated the water and let the dry land appear.
But yes, agree, this go-around is approximately 6,000 years.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Phantom lurking
December 2, 2021 2:56 am

6000 years is coincidentally about the age of _civilization_ , but not of humankind. we, the people of civilization, of course conflate the two and see ourselves as the only humans (or the only humans who matter).
the great mistake though is insisting on such a strict literal interpretation, that a narrow and shallow human mind sees a conflict between the word of god and the observations of the universe around us. This of course either leads those people to become irrational, or else to deny god – both are mistakes. instead we must be able to see the universe around us as an _expression_ of god’s word.

Colton M
Colton M
  Red River D
November 30, 2021 5:41 pm

Well Red River D, this god you talk about was invented by man. He is an illusion created to help society as well as take mortal man’s fears away from the reality that one day he will just go back to Stardust and nothing more.

Red River D
Red River D
  Colton M
November 30, 2021 8:47 pm

This GOD I talk about is your creator.

And your Judge.

Repent.

And stop embarrassing yourself.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Colton M
December 1, 2021 7:33 am
Ophiuchus
Ophiuchus
  grace country pastor
November 29, 2021 2:07 am

I assume you’ve read the Adam and Eve Story by Chan Thomas. The History Of Cataclysm

https://ia803000.us.archive.org/3/items/TheAdamAndEveStory_201904/The%20Adam%20and%20Eve%20Story.pdf

m
m
  Red River D
November 29, 2021 3:02 am

Why do you turn it into a (false) dichotomy?

Both viewpoints are true, in their own way.

Red River D
Red River D
  m
November 29, 2021 9:19 am

No. Truth will only abide by one of the following:

The earth is 13 billion years old…

The heavens and the earth were created in six days, some 6000 years ago…

Truth is not relative and it is not a personal choice. Truth IS THAT IT IS.

m
m
  Red River D
November 29, 2021 12:22 pm

The physical earth was created a few billion years ago, following events that happened maybe 13 billion years ago (or at least that is our current event horizon.)

Individual Consciousness emerged a few thousand, or ten-thousand years ago on earth. That was the creation event of the world (and at the same time of Original Sin), based on ‘The Ultimate Morality’, or as we call it: God.

Both are true.

Red River D
Red River D
  m
November 29, 2021 7:14 pm

Your version makes God a liar.

Which means your version is error.

There is only one Way and one Truth. I seek after it and bend my being to conform to it — not the other way around.

m
m
  Red River D
November 30, 2021 3:19 am

Right into the next false dichotomy.

And really funny too, because you are effectively relying on rationalist logic to build your argument. (JBP’s rebuttal: “you don’t think you can love and hate someone at the same time?”)

My version doesn’t make God a liar. It makes some humans liars, either by omission or commission.
And as all humans are imperfect, no one of us will ever be able to exactly discern the one Way and one Truth [while in the Earthly world.]

Red River D
Red River D
  m
December 1, 2021 10:30 am

You make a non sequitur to defend your position while charging the other fella with other logical fallacies.

This conversation should be had on a dedicated board. It will go on for a while.

The age of the earth is demonstrable with facets of astrophysics and geology. I would suggest you choose your strongest argument for a billions of years old earth, and I’ll table my own for an earth less than 10,000 years old. That’s a debate I’ve never lost.

m
m
  Red River D
December 1, 2021 4:54 pm

Actually your statement

Your version makes God a liar.

was a straight non sequitur.

That you now turn it on it’s head and try to defend yourself with that accusation, makes you looks a little bit sociopathic, in my book. Alinsky-style.

Colton M
Colton M
  Red River D
November 30, 2021 5:45 pm

It’s okay not to believe in gods. After all man’s thought has created the god that many believe in.

Red River D
Red River D
  Colton M
November 30, 2021 8:48 pm

It is okay not to believe in gods.

But only fools do not believe in GOD.

Consider your ways.

C.A.L.
C.A.L.
  Red River D
December 1, 2021 9:19 am

Great.
Another bible troll hijacks this discussion with their shit.

Ken31
Ken31
  Red River D
November 29, 2021 1:09 pm

Try think laterally instead of introducing false dichotomies. What is a day? 6000 years ago was AFTER the flood. We are too confident about what happened 5000 years ago for that not to be the case.

I really don’t think God just created the Earth with a bunch of old junk already lying around it.

When God created it, did he create it like a magician on a stage (watch me pull a planet out of my hat), or did he take 8 billion years to mold it out of the firmament? Let’s call it 5 days.

How long did it take to create me? Was it instant at conception? Do we count the time my parents needed to grow the gonads? Should we count the 9 months, or the 25 years it took my parents to conceive me?

Now let me go find a primitive culture so I can practice explaining to them what a billion is.

Ken31
Ken31
  Red River D
November 29, 2021 1:05 pm

OK, but it was 13 billion years MOL. You just found some lies. The Flood was around 12 thousand years ago, and that was real. Genesis is a brilliant allegory (really just explanation without technical knowledge) for what really happened, I think, but I don’t like to claim I have The or the Only truth on these things. I am confident in the first 2 assertions.

Red River D
Red River D
  Ken31
November 29, 2021 7:18 pm

Anyone who thinks Genesis is merely allegorical does not believe God.

I would hasten to add: I didn’t begin with my position of accepting Genesis chapters 1 through 3 at face value. It took many years of study to uncover the lies piled upon lies this world generates in an effort to sow darkness and confusion, and to obfuscate biblical truth at any opportunity.

He who makes the Rock his foundation will not soon be shaken from his place.

m
m
  Red River D
November 30, 2021 3:45 am

What you demean as merely allegorical, I call profoundly conceptual…

– – –
I found Jonathan Pageau trying to making an argument -as I understand it- why Jesus must have been resurrected in body and flesh.

1:00:30 because the gnostics basically wanted a disincarnated Christ […]
1:00:44 whereas Christianity posits that it’s a non-dual proposition, it’s saying it all comes together
1:00:58 so it has to come down at every level, and not only does it have to come down into the person of Christ who’s incarnated, but that person has to go down down into death, to the very bottom of the world, you know to the belly of the leviathan, and then come back up

Well I find that a weak argument (and basically mainly to defend against Gnostics?)
I have discerned Christianity as a very special dual proposition:
  The Heavenly is perfect; everything Earthly will always be imperfect, forever.
And the Gnostics can’t accept that, along the lines of “what good at all is living, if perfection is impossible?” (And that is a narcissistic trait, at the bottom of it.)

And I see shades of that in almost every argument nowadays, even for example your “the [earthly, existing] Bible is perfect/flawless” or “Christ must have been resurrected bodily [while on Earth].”
You are sowing the seeds of your own destruction by allowing for slight exceptions, even just on the outer edges, of the strict dual proposition [perfect/imperfect] that I posited above – that’s my take.

Red River D
Red River D
  m
November 30, 2021 8:55 pm

1. I don’t allow for exceptions. My arguments are biblically valid and reasoned according to the Word of God. I have bent my being to conform to the Word and have labored to eradicate my own wayward opinions or ideas whenever they conflicted with Scripture.

2. Pageau is Eastern Orthodox and as such conforms to an overly philosophical theology. He has an impressive and sophisticated understanding of Scripture, but he is weak where it counts the most.

3. Jesus Christ was resurrected from flesh and blood to flesh and bone. He entered into His own creation, died, descended into the darkness, and was raised on the third day. This is to be understood literally and it is to be believed unequivocally. All who do not believe that Christ is who He says He is, and that He did the things He said He came to do, will die in their sins.

m
m
  Red River D
December 1, 2021 1:29 pm

You mean you don’t allow for exceptions along your ‘proposition’ and it’s interpretation.

We can leave it at that, as we are both believing and the best we can hope is each of us considers the standpoint of the other.

And not to forget, we are both imperfect humans 😉

Doc
Doc
  grace country pastor
November 30, 2021 10:06 pm

Virii are not living entities – they are instructions. The best way to describe it is a chemical (protein) based programming language. They are diabolical in their simplicity. Most virii only affect a certain kind of animal, insect or plant and then a specific target cell type. The virus causes those specific cell types in the body to start following the instruction instead of the natural programming embodied in the cell. Sometimes the body’s immune system is able to destroy the virus before it can do serious damage and other times the virus wins and creates permanent damage, sometimes killing the organism.

Any person that claims a vaccine is preferred over the natural immune system is a liar.

Peace be with you.

i forget
i forget
November 28, 2021 3:14 pm

“War is fluid.”

Potters mix the warfluid with the clay, shape it, glaze it, heat it, smash it to sherds. Repeat ∞. Because all involved, participating, “codependently enabling,” can only be what they are. As holds for non-participants, too.

(If choice had to do, who’d choose this? No. Patellar reflex is where the rubber mallet meets the roadrunner. Everybody gets the knee-jerk that they get.)

Even tho claymation can fool the foolish eye made of clay into believing in forward movement, progress, agency…there is none of that.

I remember booster chairs being provided as a service. So that families with young children could all sit together around a restaurant table.

Now restaurants, among other businesses (that had already previously been eminent domained into “public accommodations” ~ bye bye miss American pie) are just more parts of the enforcement arms of those wielding the gov truncheon – & assuring dim sum fools that, yes, there is free luncheon. Recall the scene from The Outlaw Josie Wales.

And all that boosted clay is queuing for “immunity as a service” ~ boosters ~ as far as the eye can see. Clay petri-pigeon dishes, existing only for the “Pull!”.

And so, obviously, feet, lots of feet, surfeits of feet, are not the only parts made of red Georgia, &… the cowardice clays have *always* swallowed the human world.

“Slave-name,” indeed. A slavery even more fundamental than Muhammad Ali objected to…and he was no clay-footed, or cay-brained, coward, either.

Treefarmer
Treefarmer
November 28, 2021 3:53 pm

Ash and maple, yes, but can you tell the difference between Acer saccharum and Acer saccharinum? 🙂

Red River D
Red River D
  Treefarmer
November 28, 2021 8:04 pm

I’ll bet if we had a tree farmer to inquire of, we would know the difference!!

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Treefarmer
November 28, 2021 8:56 pm

All of them, with or without leaves. When we first moved here I didn’t even know we had maples.

Time and attention.

subwo
subwo
  hardscrabble farmer
November 28, 2021 9:19 pm

I’ll bet if you walked up to 100 people with a pine needle and a maple leaf most couldn’t determine visually which tree they came from was soft or hard wood.

Ken31
Ken31
  hardscrabble farmer
November 29, 2021 5:46 pm

I still think that is one of the most amazing parts of your story. What was your plan, without that resource?

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Ken31
November 29, 2021 5:52 pm

Tilapia.

We became the first closed system aquaculture operation in New England.

It was almost a year before I realized what kind of resource we were sitting on.

Undeniable
Undeniable
November 28, 2021 4:04 pm

Many gems in that one. Thank you.

I suspect many people were, in varying degrees, alarmed at the recent announcement of Omicron®. In reality, though, the initial concerns were not over the “virus”, per se, but regarding the reactions to the propaganda by governments and rubes alike. Trauma and reward are how tyrants train their subject and, sadly, it’s working on the rubes.

Ken31
Ken31
  Undeniable
November 29, 2021 1:21 pm

I am not worried about the fake virus threat, but I am worried about one of these fake viruses killing people I love with ADE, because they got vaccinated out of ignorance and weakness. I am worried I will have to fight again, just when I am ready to find peace.

Davido Davido
Davido Davido
November 28, 2021 4:21 pm

” governments that lie the same way the Sun rises and sets” A sadly accurate turn of phrase. Thank you for the article.

Anonymous
Anonymous
November 28, 2021 4:36 pm

Viruses can be seen with electron microscopy. Unless, you believe that technology is a conspiracy as well?

bigfoot
bigfoot
  Anonymous
November 28, 2021 6:29 pm

No virus has ever been “seen.” You are seeing magazine illustrations.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  bigfoot
November 28, 2021 8:18 pm

No virus has been seen? Really? How about bacteria or red blood cells? Do they exist? Are microscopes a hoax too? You never went to school and had a chance to look at pond water under a microscope? Did you ever look at blood under a microscope? You think that when they do a blood test or check for say, scabies, that they’re making up those images? Is the earth flat too?

https://microspedia.blogspot.com/2018/06/electron-microscope-virus-real-image.html

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Mygirl....maybe
November 28, 2021 10:00 pm

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The image above is the one we’ve been shown for years now as an interpretation of what the coronavirus looks like under an electron microscope. Many of us have wondered why, if they know it looks like that under a microscope, they wouldn’t just take a photograph of it instead of creating an artist’s interpretation. They don’t explain why they don’t and most people just accept it as if it were an actual image.

https://cdn.the-scientist.com/assets/articleNo/67160/hImg/36118/kz-hero-x.webp

About a year into the panic this image showed up, alleged to be an actual image taken through an electron microscope. I don’t know if it is, but that’s the claim. Most people can look at the difference between those images and recognize that the original seems to possess a great deal of artistic license, but like NASA frequently states, people like the colors they add to their images. Maybe that’s true, but when you’re trying to communicate something accurately, especially when maximum trust is being sought, it seems odd to tart it up like a streetwalker. Extremely dodgy to me, but like I said, I’m not a scientist.

https://images.jpost.com/image/upload/f_auto,fl_lossy/t_JM_ArticleMainImageFaceDetect/481608

Now this one came out last week, from Israel and they claimed it was a “scanning electron microscope image” of the novel coronavirus. Cool colors, probably like the ones in the first artist’s interpretation, added for oomph rather than an actual representation. Catchy, but once again, strange thing to do when you’re looking to communicate reality to people. What strikes me though is that it doesn’t really resemble the first two. It kind of looks like a loofah sponge.

So which is real? What version of the coronavirus is the closest to what they say it is? How can electron microscopes vary so widely in the resolution of imagery? Why all the colorization and added details that don’t actually appear in the shots that are supposed to be the ones from the electron microscope?

And more importantly, why are we supposed to accept that the accuracy of interpretation from the same people who feel the need to jazz up the images whenever they promote them to the public? If you were to sell something on Craigslist and you colorized the offering or added features in the photograph, the buyer would have every right to think you were trying to bullshit them if the original looked different. I dare say information regarding the sacrifice of our fundamental liberties is worth a hell of a lot more than an ’80 Monza.

I really don’t mind the mocking tone, most of the rabbit holes I go down lead me to strange conclusions and I may be completely off the mark on viruses, but the human aspect surrounding this, the accumulation of falsified data, altered images, jacked up visual aids, etc. leads me to doubt the entirety of their offerings. What I can’t do, won’t do is fall for the old appeal to authority bit. All of their capital has been used up. You believe in electron microscope images of coronaviruses if you want, but unless I see one operated live, with a positively identified sample verified by independent laboratories proving it is what they claim it is, I’ll stay on this side of the fence. I know that’s less likely to happen than ever seeing an image of the lunar lander taken from a telescope on Earth, but those are my terms.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  hardscrabble farmer
November 28, 2021 10:29 pm

It was a woman, repeat, it was a WOMAN, who first discovered the corona viruses using an electron microscope. I know that in your view she should have been baking pies and not allowed to leave her home, however, society in 1930 was emancipated enough to allow her to get an education and said education was in the field of virology.

Corona viruses are a group, not just one virus, and they affect humans and animals and manifest different diseases and symptoms in the organisms they affect. ‘Covid 19’ is a bioengineered virus, a chimeric virus and Fauci funded both Dr. Baric and Shi to create a weaponized version of a corona virus based on the SARS and Mers viruses.

“So, the fact of the matter is, we have an unprecedented outcome. And if we go back and look at the patent record, if we go back and look at the laboratory record, and if we go back and look at the funding record, we see that the current pathogen called SARS-CoV-2 was clearly chimerically altered and was clearly chimerically developed in the laboratory so that it can be used both as a weapon and as a medical countermeasure in 2015”.

As to corona viruses in general….

“Coronaviruses constitute the subfamily Orthocoronavirinae, in the family Coronaviridae, order Nidovirales and realm Riboviria.[3][4] They are enveloped viruses with a positive-sense single-stranded RNA genome and a nucleocapsid of helical symmetry.[5] The genome size of coronaviruses ranges from approximately 26 to 32 kilobases, one of the largest among RNA viruses.[6] They have characteristic club-shaped spikes that project from their surface, which in electron micrographs create an image reminiscent of the solar corona, from which their name derives.[7]”

Electron microscopic image of corona virus…
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DR. DAVID MARTIN: “Weaponized ‘COVID’ Injections Have Seriously Harmed And Killed Many — While Bought-And-Paid-For Public Officials Continue To Lie And Terrorize The Public”

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-52278716

US NIAID Funded Baric-Shi “Gain of Function” Research Featured in Fauci FOIA Emails Built Upon Mouse “Gain of Function” Virus Created By the NIAID, the CDC and UNC-Chapel Hill; Fauci Head of NIAID Since 1983

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Mygirl....maybe
November 28, 2021 10:59 pm

Antinomy paradox, itz.

This statement is false.

Pilot Doc
Pilot Doc
  Mygirl....maybe
November 29, 2021 10:56 am

Look closely and you can see those mutation thingies..

Vigilant
Vigilant
  hardscrabble farmer
November 28, 2021 10:35 pm

Early on Andrew Kaufman explained that the images coming from an electron microscope were only in black and white. Then the video showed “different” viruses, exosomes, and other particles that looked exactly the same until color was added to them. He showed before and after pictures. I consider the doctored pictures to be a lie on a grand scale, since in all my years no educator, book, research paper or any of my sources told me that color had been added to enhance the images. Am I the only one who believed that the images were genuine? I could have accepted an explanation for why they were adding color to an image, but I don’t accept being lied to by way of omission. I guess that they didn’t want anyone to see the black and white images and ask questions that would lead to the truth.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Vigilant
November 28, 2021 11:10 pm

Why do they stain slides? What is the purpose of adding a stain to a slide sample? What kind of dyes/stains are used and why are those used?

Microscope cell staining is a technique used to enable better visualization of cells and cell parts under the microscope. By using different stains, a nucleus or a cell wall are easier to view. Most stains can be used on non-living (fixed) cells, while only some types of stain can be used on living cells.

As to electronic microscopes and how those colors are obtained….

“Basic Protocol 1: DATA ACQUISITION

With an EM grid prepared (see the Support Protocol), the first milestone is to collect a large number of micrographs, containing approximately 50,000 particles in total. Towards this goal, the first step is to evaluate if the grid is good, or, at the least, better than previously acquired data. If the grid is not good, a new grid should be remade before continuing. A good grid has good contrast for individual particles, and good particle dispersion (see Critical Parameters and Troubleshooting). When a grid of suitable quality is made, the objective becomes to collect a much data as possible in a short amount of time. The data should be collec”ted close to focus to minimize the importance of the contrast transfer function (CTF) correction, yet with enough defocus to properly fit the defocus value. Using a camera that supports motion correction can greatly reduce the dwell time for stage settling between camera shots, such as implemented in the OneView camera (Gatan, Warrendale, PA).”

https://www.microscopeworld.com/t-microscope_slide_staining.aspx

https://currentprotocols.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/cpmc.90

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Mygirl....maybe
November 29, 2021 10:43 am

So, seven plus people don’t want to educate themselves or else they don’t like someone (me) pointing out facts. That is very revealing and frightening as well. Stupid can’t be fixed, ignorance can. To remain willfully and stubbornly ignorant is stupid. I would say, don’t be stupid but ….you can’t fix stupid.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Mygirl....maybe
November 29, 2021 4:28 pm

Anyone who isn’t in agreement with you is either uneducated, stubbornly ignorant or stupid. Quite the stance for someone who lost their mind the first year of this hoax thinking it was the apocalypse.

I’ve spent many hundreds of hours studying something that I wasn’t really very interested in, so ignorant I am not. The more I researched the more I found fraud and deception standing in for scientific method. Once you’ve discovered that kind of malfeasance and lazy operating- almost all of it on the taxpayer dime- you begin to question everything.

Maybe I’m stupid, but I’m not gullible.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  hardscrabble farmer
November 29, 2021 6:31 pm

When I state facts about staining microscope slides and how electron microscope photography is used and get down votes then I realize that I am not dealing with intelligent or open minds, I am dealing with those who don’t want alternatives mucking up the present narrative.

I expected you to come back and attack me for my attitudes and beliefs from two years ago. I was waiting for you to do so and, sadly, you didn’t disappoint. It’s what you do. It’s petty, but not surprising. It would have shocked me if you hadn’t dredged it up.

I don’t apologize for what I believed back then, most people were of the same mind initially and the fact that I came around and completely changed my mind is never acknowledged by you, is it? Nope. That would’ve required a greatness of character which is nowhere in evidence .

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Mygirl....maybe
November 29, 2021 7:02 pm

You must completely control your desire and shift your avoidance to what lies within your reasoned choice. You must no longer feel anger, resentment, envy, or regret. — Epictetus

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  hardscrabble farmer
November 29, 2021 7:25 pm

You must not think or speak for yourself, rather you should rely solely on quotes from long dead people who were probably misquoted in the first place and use said quotes in lieu of honest communication.

-Mygirl…maybe

falconflight
falconflight
  Mygirl....maybe
November 29, 2021 7:29 pm

I was flabbergasted by the down arrows. I guess you also believe that the Earth is round and Capricorn One is just a movie. /s

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  falconflight
November 29, 2021 9:19 pm

The down votes are for the farmer, they seek to punish those who don’t worship at his fount. His devoted acolytes hope he will love them and smile down from his lofty perch and grant them a boon or two if they downvote me…
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hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Mygirl....maybe
November 29, 2021 7:42 pm

“If anyone tells you that a certain person speaks ill of you, do not make excuses about what is said of you but answer, ‘He was ignorant of my other faults, else he would have not mentioned these alone.’” — Epictetus

YourAverageJoe
YourAverageJoe
  hardscrabble farmer
November 29, 2021 7:22 pm

My thoughts as well.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  YourAverageJoe
November 29, 2021 10:08 pm

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m
m
  Vigilant
November 29, 2021 3:10 am

Uhh, an electron microscope doesn’t create “black and white” images either.
It creates something that can’t be taken up by human senses, so to make it accessible, they turn it into a grey-scale picture. But human vision is very poor at comparing grey tones…

Vigilant
Vigilant
  m
November 29, 2021 9:59 am

So it’s all an illusion.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Vigilant
November 29, 2021 10:32 am

So it’s all an illusion.

Yes, when a pathologist looks at a tissue biopsy thru a microscope to check for cancer he’s making it all up because microscopes and images seen thru microscopes aren’t real.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  Mygirl....maybe
November 29, 2021 4:02 pm

m was referring to electron microscopes, as was I.
Do you know that there are different levels of magnification corresponding to different types of microscopes? Not everything ends up under an electron microscope.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Vigilant
November 29, 2021 6:07 pm

Your reading comprehension fails you….I made mention of all microscopes, not merely electron.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Mygirl....maybe
November 29, 2021 11:46 pm

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Ken31
Ken31
  hardscrabble farmer
November 29, 2021 1:33 pm

Coloration is nice for the layman and the student. They represent different proteins or functional areas of proteins. The topography is based on a combination of data from types of analysis and spectroscopy.

These are all collectively known as “cartoons”, no matter the detail, because scientist like to remind themselves that there is guess work and creative license taken with the images. As biologists, we like to make it easy on ourselves by making it easy to look at as we analyze its possible functions and structures, but all of that is well known and considered.

This particular cartoon looks like it was purposed for a simple illustration showing the general shape of the s-spicule protein, one of the types of channels in the virus envelope and one of the types of surface proteins. An actual envelope virus is way more crowded.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  Ken31
November 29, 2021 4:04 pm

Yes. Andrew Kaufman was referring to them as cartoons. Thanks for the explanation.

mapletruck
mapletruck
  hardscrabble farmer
November 30, 2021 4:25 pm

They also use photoshopped images daily, masks photoshopped on people is popular and the phony school shootings stories used lots of green screen and photoshop. It’s all fucking smoke and mirrors.

Mista Ed - Shape Shifta
Mista Ed - Shape Shifta
  Mygirl....maybe
November 29, 2021 7:37 am

Mygirl, you are committing a logical fallacy, Argumentum ad Absurdum. Just because HSF’s argument may seem absurd, or you can reduce it to an absurdity, does not invalidate his argument.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Mista Ed - Shape Shifta
November 29, 2021 10:28 am

If I can reduce his argument to an absurdity using facts and references while HSF bases his assertion on his feelings then perhaps there isn’t really an argument per se, but rather claims (feelings) vs. facts. Argumentum ad Absurdum is not a fallacy, and in fact is used to prove arguments or claims ARE fallacious; because they can be used to produce obviously absurd conclusions.

Too many people are tossing out the baby with the bathwater. I am speaking of viruses in toto and in general and demonstrating the fact that, unlike what the denialists want to believe, viruses DO exist and images from microscopes and electron microscopes are real. If you want to claim that Covid 19 doesn’t exist because you don’t like the propaganda that surrounds the topic then have at it but don’t deny the existence of viruses as one commenter claimed. I was addressing that person when HSF chimed in about Covid 19 and ONLY Covid 19.

Too many people jump to conclusions without reading properly or else they lack reading comprehension skills or else they’re blinded by their biases.

Foolserrand
Foolserrand
  Mygirl....maybe
November 29, 2021 10:43 am

Why do you waste energy on a guy who has to be right all the time. The more I see of him the less I see to like.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Foolserrand
November 29, 2021 12:34 pm

Why do you waste energy on a guy who has to be right all the time. The more I see of him the less I see to like.

I used to like and respect him, a lot. Then I began to realize that unless you slavishly agreed with him and never questioned his assertions, you’d be thoroughly trounced by him and his acolytes as is happening here on this thread. No dissention is allowed, to disagree with his narrative is to speak heresy, facts are eschewed in favor of feelings .
I agree with and understand his great distrust and dislike of the frauds pushing the Covid propagand, but ignoring valid science in order to discredit the propaganda offends my sensibilities.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mygirl....maybe
November 29, 2021 1:28 pm

Nonsense. I’ve watched the relationships evolve over the past few years.

You don’t like that you disagree with someone you know is intelligent and thoughtful. He’s always pretty content to have people disagree with him… he just doesn’t bend over to suck your dick sized clit so you can feel better about him not caring about the disagreement.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Anonymous
November 29, 2021 6:05 pm

You’re sucking his ass most vigorously….anonymously, of course.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Mygirl....maybe
November 29, 2021 6:16 pm

Anger brings about nothing grand or beautiful. On the other hand, to be constantly irritated seems to me to be the part of a languid and unhappy mind, conscious of its own feebleness. — Seneca

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  hardscrabble farmer
November 29, 2021 7:32 pm

Avoid those who countenance no opinions or thoughts that differ from their own, avoid those who believe themselves always right and attack those who disagree with them, often using ancient history as a tool of retribution. Also avoid those who seem incapable of independent thought and instead rely on quoting dead people.
-Mygirl…maybe

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Mygirl....maybe
November 29, 2021 7:39 pm

“Say to yourself first thing in the morning: today I shall meet people who are meddling, ungrateful, aggressive, treacherous, malicious, unsocial. But I have seen that the nature of good is what is right, and the nature of evil what is wrong; and I have reflected that the nature of the offender himself is akin to my own — not a kinship of blood or seed, but a sharing in the same mind, the same fragment of divinity….” — Marcus Aurelius

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  hardscrabble farmer
November 29, 2021 9:10 pm

Say to yourself, first thing in the morning…” I will eat a live frog and then nothing worse can happen to me for the rest of the day” then go out and hunt frogs.

-Mygirl…maybe

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Mygirl....maybe
November 29, 2021 9:24 pm

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Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  hardscrabble farmer
November 29, 2021 9:44 pm

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Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Mygirl....maybe
November 30, 2021 12:08 am

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Vigilant
Vigilant
  Mygirl....maybe
November 29, 2021 4:18 pm

The word virus means poison, and poisons do indeed exist. The confusion starts with a fact that lies are added to thus perverting the fact, and then the lies increase to such an extent that people begin to say that viruses don’t exist at all. Someone like Cowan would clarify that viruses don’t exist AS THEY HAVE BEEN DESCRIBED TO US. Only with that clarification in mind can one understand his reasoning.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Vigilant
November 29, 2021 5:09 pm

THIS.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  hardscrabble farmer
November 29, 2021 11:51 pm

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Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  bigfoot
November 28, 2021 8:36 pm

Tunneling electron microscope of the corona virus and it’s relative, the Rhinovirus.
They have been seen the same way the moons of outer planets have been. With technology.

https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/virus-electron-microscope-3d-max/316671comment image

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Colorado Artist
November 28, 2021 8:58 pm

PRODUCT ORIGIN
This is a detailed model of a virus that was originally created for use in a TV commercial.

Ken31
Ken31
  hardscrabble farmer
November 29, 2021 1:43 pm

I was going to say : That is not what things really look like up close – that is not real. If we could look at things like that, it would revolutionize molecular biology. Unfortunately, the universe is full of finite resolutions for us humans.

Just as an example of what you see, here is a good colorized tunneling electron microscope image of a macrophage which is much much much larger than a coronavirus.
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m
m
  Colorado Artist
November 29, 2021 3:12 am

That’s somewhat an artist’s rendering. Folded proteins don’t have a “surface” per se.

Pilot Doc
Pilot Doc
  Colorado Artist
November 29, 2021 10:58 am

MUTATION THINGIES!

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  bigfoot
November 28, 2021 8:40 pm

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/isolated-virus-under-scanning-electron-microscope-picture-id175546548
Type in “Tunneling electron microscope virus.”
The technology is astonishing and has been around for a long time.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Colorado Artist
November 28, 2021 11:15 pm

The technology is astonishing and has been around for a long time.

Be quiet, you’re upsetting the narrative.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Mygirl....maybe
November 29, 2021 8:24 am

Now that’s funny.

Red River D
Red River D
  Anonymous
November 28, 2021 8:05 pm

Electric technology isn’t a conspiracy.

It is sorcery.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  Red River D
November 28, 2021 9:40 pm

Evidently, electric schematics are full of sigils. Also, these various screens are likened to black scrying mirrors. Is this the sorcery that you are speaking of, or something else?

Executable programs on computers are assisted in their execution by programs called daemons, a Greek word that equals demon in English. I don’t think that you can run a program without a daemon. Would you consider this sorcery, also? Or just some strange coincidence?

I believe that it was in Iran that they rejected electricity in their homes for decades because they considered that it would allow the Jinn to travel through the wires. Interesting theory.

Ghost
Ghost
  Vigilant
November 29, 2021 8:36 am

Damn Jinn… once they get in your wires, you can never get them out.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  Ghost
November 29, 2021 10:10 am

LOL! That was simply a random example given by those who theorize that electricity and the spirit world are intertwined.
I’m simply curious as to if there actually is some connection. If one believes in the aether, that seems to be a more plausible explanation of where the Prince of the Power of the Air operates.

B_MC
B_MC
  Vigilant
November 29, 2021 10:53 am

Tesla seems to suggest something like that….

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Ken31
Ken31
  B_MC
November 29, 2021 1:54 pm

That is a such a profound statement for such a few words. It is literally true all the way down at the wave function (the building block of matter) all the way up through human behavior and the movement of the spheres. It is just a universal truth.

What takes genius is getting anything useful out of that knowledge. He had it. I just get glimpses sometimes.

It is all just waves, man.

i forget
i forget
  B_MC
November 29, 2021 3:47 pm

Music….

GNL
GNL
  B_MC
November 29, 2021 4:57 pm

I still say the secret to perpetual motion will be found in gravity.

BL
BL
  GNL
November 29, 2021 8:10 pm

You could say that Glock ,but you would be wrong.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  BL
November 29, 2021 10:21 pm

The secret to perpetual motion is meth.

i forget
i forget
  GNL
November 30, 2021 3:39 pm

Only if the gravitas can set itself free.
My pick for the underlying honesty is irony.

Ken31
Ken31
  Anonymous
November 29, 2021 1:25 pm

Yes and no. You can’t really use electron microscopy to prove a virus is a virus, but it is a piece of evidence. You can’t “prove” much about them. As in most science, we just assemble as much evidence as possible. I have seen enough first-hand evidence to convince me they are real (in the lab), but that doesn’t mean all of their purported activities are accurate or correct.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  Ken31
November 29, 2021 4:30 pm

Have you been able to distinguish viruses from exosomes? Without coloring or other tricks? The popular theory is that exosomes are being labeled as viruses. Virus means poison, and cells need to take out the trash somehow.

Ken31
Ken31
  Vigilant
November 29, 2021 5:59 pm

I wouldn’t be able to, no. As far as I know (and this was never my field), that type of work is done on plants just for that reason. I think this virus is interesting, because if its mechanism are worked out as people think, it is essentially just an exosome dressed up with some foreign instructions.

I do know the virus is somehow using blocking mechanisms on the mechanisms that would digest it in the endosome system and so its only other option would be exocytosis, so that’s interesting.

Viewing this as a poison is a plausible hypothesis, but what is the implication?

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Vigilant
November 29, 2021 7:48 pm

Virus also meant snake venom and toxic liquid.

Although “Virus” literally means “Poison” in Latin, it would be a great over-simplification to regard a Virus as a Poison.

Now, most poisons are chemical compounds that interfere in some chemical pathway in our body. For example:

Carbon Monoxide: Binds with Haemoglobin, rendering it unable to transport oxygen
Sarin: Indirectly inhibits degradation of the neurotransmitter “Acetylcholine” at the synaptic cleft. Mechanism of action of Sarin

Hence most poisons are quite “simple” in their actions. However, viruses can be considered as a complex machinery of functions that interfere with a multitude of processes in our body including cell transcription, receptor-mediated endocytosis, et.c

Viruses do work at molecular level, but not in the same sense as poisons do. Hence, viruses do fit into the description of poisons but not precisely.
https://www.bing.com/search?q=virus+are+poison&cvid=b781cc4aca16452a92efcf865529faa8&aqs=edge..69i57j69i60j69i64.8872j0j9&FORM=ANAB01&PC=U531

BL
BL
  Mygirl....maybe
November 29, 2021 8:12 pm

Snake venom does fall into your expertise MyG.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  BL
November 29, 2021 9:06 pm

That it does…most of the rattlesnake variety…How was your Thanksgiving? I encountered nary a rattlesnake one on that happy day, thank you for asking.

BL
BL
  Mygirl....maybe
November 29, 2021 10:35 pm

MyG- Thanksgiving was really nice, very relaxing. I’ve been boning up on techniques for being invisible. Glad you had a good turkey day.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  BL
November 29, 2021 10:53 pm

How to be invisible…

grow old and look poor.

Get a shirt with a nametag that reads ‘Jim’ or ‘Paco’ and a broom or leaf blower and carry those around.

Get a job as a clerk for the DMV.

Become a service provider for any devices that people paid an extended warranty on.

Work as a clerk for Home Depot.

BL
BL
  Mygirl....maybe
November 29, 2021 11:56 pm

All very good suggestions MyG, I am speaking in terms of invisible as in a non-pusillanimous fashion from those who would be hunting non-compliants.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  BL
November 30, 2021 12:57 am

Lie. Tell them you’re vaccinated if you’re around vaccinated folk. Wax rhapsodic about Fauci, sing his praises and spit in the direction of the unvaccinated. This will make them believe you are one of them and they will leave you alone. If that fails then throw a blanket over your head and pretend it’s a cloak of invisibility.

BL
BL
  Mygirl....maybe
November 30, 2021 7:05 pm

MyG- You can’t be this dumb. The hunters of the unvaxxed of which I speak say interesting things like, “papers please”. And I ain’t gots no papers.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  BL
November 30, 2021 9:07 pm

Try the blanket…

i forget
i forget
  Anonymous
November 29, 2021 3:45 pm

“Hillman says that the things scientists do to prepare specimens for the electron microscope so distort the objects’ structure that all observations and conclusions are suspect.

But in the early 1960s, he made a fateful and disturbing discovery that put him on the path to heresy. Human (Hillman) found that when centrifuged, adenosine triphosphate changed its activity. This meant that many experiments probing this crucial substance could be wrong.

Did scientists laud Human for such an important discovery? On the contrary, he couldn’t even get the results published. (Kuhn’s paradigm stuff?)

as Hillman points out, grinding or stirring or centrifuging puts energy into the system, which can drive chemical reactions. (The stability of atomistic reductionism is not to be questioned, gainsaid. Only particle physics signs off on “you look at it, you change it.”)

Perturbed both by his findings and by their negative reception, Human began to investigate the effects of other experimental techniques. He observed that for some enzymes only 20% to 30% recovery is recorded, and concluded: “So we know prima fade that the technique is changing them.” Yet he couldn’t get funding to do the control experiments he believed necessary to put such techniques as chromatography, biochemistry, or electrophoresis to the test.

But a couple of years later, he was doing work on nerve cells with microscopist Peter Sartory. To get the best images, they used transmission electron microscopy (EM) and were astonished by what they saw.

“We noticed something so peculiar that we really couldn’t’ believe it,” Hillman recalls. “About 80% of the membranes in the cell appeared end-on, [as if the cell had been sliced through its center]. It took Sartory and myself several weeks to realize that it simply wasn’t possible.” Yet that is what virtually all electron micrographs and illustrations in papers and textbooks show. “That was our first shock,” says Human. That implied that every electron microscopist was cutting virtually everything in the cell perfectly at right angles.”

“I have challenged electron microscopists to make a three-dimensional model of any living cell in which this [a membrane appearing to have identical thickness however it is cut] is so. It simply isn’t possible. All the stains they examine them with are heavy metals that deposit on both sides of the membrane, thus any real membrane will appear as two lines.”

According to Hillman, the consequences are profound. He insists that any experiment involving electron microscopy is incomplete and its conclusions cannot be justified. In an article in The Practitioner last year (July 1987, Vol 231, page 998), he suggested that the problems with techniques used to study cells were one major cause of slow progress in understanding such diseases as cancer, multiple sclerosis, and Alzheimer’s disease.

Flawed cell pictures are only part of the problems inherent in these studies, says Hillman. He also feels that a string of other hypotheses, crucial to this research—the existence of receptors that no one has ever seen, for example–are unproven yet accepted as gospel. In the article he likened medical orthodoxy to a religion, with its preisthood and theology.”

He said (some interesting, worthy of pursuit to the ends, things), she said (catechismically). Nothing unfamiliar in this refrain. Or axe-job. Screw the Alamo, remember Peter Duesberg, et al.

Scratch a liar, catch a thief. The human edifice, not just this section of it, is built on lies. And that is not the baby, nor the bathwater – it is the crux.

https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=23769.0

Vigilant
Vigilant
  i forget
November 29, 2021 4:36 pm

I forget,
Exactly! This is the type of explanation that I have been hearing and that I agree with, but I can’t articulate on my own for posting in a comment section.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  i forget
November 29, 2021 5:08 pm

“Scratch a liar, catch a thief. The human edifice, not just this section of it, is built on lies. And that is not the baby, nor the bathwater – it is the crux.”

Sometimes you are about as lucid as they come.

YourAverageJoe
YourAverageJoe
  hardscrabble farmer
November 29, 2021 7:33 pm

I enjoy the highly intelligent banter going on here and salute all participants.
ZeroHedge gives me a headache.

Ken31
Ken31
  i forget
November 29, 2021 6:15 pm

I think I already packed my neurobiology book, but that calls back to the earliest controversy in neurobiology of whether it was all connected by discrete cells, because synapses couldn’t be distinguished. It all looked like a continuous network. The catch is, many years later, it looks like it is maybe a lot of both. But, that hasn’t been given much attention, because it is handwaved away as some very specialized sub-cell types. And differentiation is still a kind of unsolved mystery for some of it. I know professors who spent their whole careers failing to solve cell biology problems.

The mystery receptors that are implied have also been deeply interesting to me. I suspect that a lot of problems have to do with some complex physical interactions that people don’t like to think about, but more people are coming around to. Nobody has been able to articulate it into something testable yet, that I know of. To me it is just the sense that it matters which proteins and other components touch eachother on every side along with the whole thing and how much force is being thrown around by London Dispersion on one side of the cell has to do with how well something else is going to work somehow on down the road. It is all just butterflies and hurricanes and we miss a lot with reductionist thinking. Probably some of the most important stuff. For some reason people would always get quiet when I tried to talk about kinetics, like it was a distasteful subject. There are not many rigorously investigated chemical reaction mechanisms. Most of them are just assumed based on others. Guesswork.

But maybe biology and science is just in its infancy and we just need to give it time.

Mistakes will be made, but these monsters are claiming powers that no man should have. That has nothing to do with biology.

I hope I am not babbling, but another related topic to this and Hillman is that some of this is expected to not even be researchable until we have computers powerful enough and nobody knows when that will happen or if it will happen. The quantum computer is not yet at Best Buy.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Ken31
November 29, 2021 7:05 pm

There are some things that human beings will never fully grasp. We are limited in so many ways and the Universe- from the micro to the macro- is completely unlimited.

A hard pill to swallow.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  i forget
November 29, 2021 8:26 pm

Hillman, like many who counter prevalent orthodoxy, was treated most shabbily by the establishment. As to the ongoing debate about electron microscopy vs. digitally enhanced by computer imagery, this little article is most edifying…

NOT an electron microscope image..comment image?

5 Science Facts Behind Astonishing Electron Microscope Images

Da Perfessor
Da Perfessor
  i forget
November 30, 2021 11:58 am

I’m late to the party @i forget but allow me to say thanks for this contribution.

I endured about 9,000-10,000 hours of specialized education to get my graduate degree in Microbiology and Public Health…and then promptly abandoned it because one could not advance their career while raising substantive questions about lab protocols….and subsequent “proofs”. (And this was almost 50 years ago.)

To my embarrassment, I was actually concerned about “da Coof” early on…the “math” of cases was actually making sense from a classical sense. By late April 2020, I repented of that error here.

Human reasoning is always suspect but once the “experts” began fouling data and definitions to maintain a narrative there was no chance to arrive at definitive truth.

I know from ‘in vitro’ work that viruses do exist. That means little to their impact ‘in vivo’. If one maintains healthy living, one runs little risk from any pathogen.

What “we know” about viruses, bacteria, PPLO are models at best. (The same can be said about atoms and constituent particles as posited. Gravity – same. Magnetism – well, at least they admit nobody gets this.)

Science has been corrupted for maybe 100 years in my estimation. The current nonsense will not reverse that situation.

Da P

Kayjay50
Kayjay50
November 28, 2021 5:00 pm

You can find the answers to what a virus is along with so many other health issues in the book “What Really Makes You Ill” by Dawn Lester and David Parker. They researched this book for over 10 years. Its a very big book but well worth the read . I have no medical background but I had no problem understanding 95% of it.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  Kayjay50
November 28, 2021 9:41 pm

What Really Makes You Ill — HIGHEST RECOMMENDEDATIONS

Anonymous
Anonymous
November 28, 2021 5:21 pm

Parenthetic expressions are enclosed with commas, not dashes. The rest of your article is dribble and nonsense. You completely fail at your attempt to come across as intelligent.

bigfoot
bigfoot
  Anonymous
November 28, 2021 6:34 pm

Anonymous: “Do not say things. What you are stands over your head the while and shouts so that I cannot hear what you say to the contrary.”

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  Anonymous
November 28, 2021 7:16 pm

The word is drivel.

Red River D
Red River D
  Hardscrabble Farmer
November 28, 2021 8:07 pm

But in his case, drool is an appropriate term.

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  Hardscrabble Farmer
November 28, 2021 8:11 pm

Idiots always conflate “dribble” (a slow pouring of a liquid) with “drivel” (inane speech)
It’s how you know you are dealing with the low IQ twats,
but the product of a public education.
Loved this piece of yours.
Kudos.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
  Hardscrabble Farmer
November 28, 2021 9:43 pm

Trolls are out. You must be over the target.

Pilot Doc
Pilot Doc
  Hardscrabble Farmer
November 29, 2021 11:01 am

It literally writes itself at this point

Ken31
Ken31
  Hardscrabble Farmer
November 29, 2021 2:00 pm

roofles.

YourAverageJoe
YourAverageJoe
  Ken31
November 29, 2021 7:37 pm

Roofies

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  Anonymous
November 28, 2021 8:24 pm

“Dashes are commonly used to indicate a range or a pause.”
-Grammar.com
He used them correctly.
You are as stupid as you are arrogant.
Public schools?
It shows.

Ken31
Ken31
  Colorado Artist
November 29, 2021 2:04 pm

Public schools taught me all sorts of grammar rules that it turned out were wrong or preferential.

My rebellious nature wants to make up my own grammar, but then I remember when I was forced to decipher ebonics and I try to make an effort.

falconflight
falconflight
  Ken31
November 29, 2021 8:17 pm

Are you black by chance. ;0

Vigilant
Vigilant
  Anonymous
November 28, 2021 9:47 pm

Au contraire, it was quite intelligent. I’m certain that the point of writing it was not to try to come across as intelligent. And it’s drivel, not dribble, troll.

Tony fauci
Tony fauci
  Vigilant
November 29, 2021 5:32 am

It’s whatever I say it is.

Montefrío
Montefrío
  Anonymous
November 29, 2021 10:32 am

Try “drivel”. What comes out of your mouth is “dribble”. But wait, so does drivel!

YourAverageJoe
YourAverageJoe
  Anonymous
November 29, 2021 7:36 pm

Oh that’s comedy right there!
Hahahahahahahaha!

bigfoot
bigfoot
November 28, 2021 6:25 pm

Right on. Viruses, or what are called viruses, are likely packets made by the cells in order to get rid of cell refuse such as DNA fragments, which virologists assume to be living things. Craziness all around and has been for many years. Pasteur’s Germ Theory set us on an allopathic nightmare of greed, lies, and denial of science. This country can manufacture, grow, and supply its populace with most everything it needs with minimal imports other than perhaps rare earths. Immigration only divides people and degrades the average intelligence of the population when the masses of people coming in come from third world countries where the culture is strong-man oriented.

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
November 28, 2021 6:54 pm

Came across Santa yesterday. As we were about to join the line to take a photo, I noticed that he was wearing an N95 mask. Who wants a photo with that? So we left.

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  Svarga Loka
November 28, 2021 8:14 pm

God help us.
Santa can fly around the entire world in one night with trillions of tons of toys
in a small sled propelled by flying reindeer, but can’t overcome a cold virus without a
paper mask?
Children can see the stupidity of this.

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  Colorado Artist
November 28, 2021 8:24 pm

Funny you should say that. My daughter said that she thought that he was not the REAL Santa.

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  Svarga Loka
November 28, 2021 8:43 pm

Raising a smart, independent girl.
Carry on.

Anonymous
Anonymous
November 28, 2021 7:00 pm

Contrarian my mom and my aunt always called me that..

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
November 28, 2021 7:06 pm

You may not be a doctor or a scientist, but that makes FAR more sense
than anything coming out The Lying Midget’s mouth or that blithering
idiot Brix. “Follow The Science™” is what they NEVER do, because
none of this has been about science, it’s been about turning the world socialist.
As to the “Climate Change™” bullshit, it’s for the same purpose.
A warming planet is uniformly cast as a catastrophe not the likely boon for humanity
that former warm periods were. Greenland had wineries 1000 years ago!

Remember this truth: All of this leftist horseshit is about scaring
the rubes into accepting socialism. It’s that simple.

mark
mark
November 28, 2021 7:07 pm

I love articulate and defiant word/sword – smithing/smiting!

Peter Horry
Peter Horry
November 28, 2021 7:38 pm

Yet another incredible, salient and moving piece of writing by HSF. Kudos!

Hey man, just wanted you to know that my boisterous farm family shuts the hell up and listens when I read your words. You are well spoken and your language resonates with my rural people. We have largely learned (well, are learning) the same lessons as your family down here in Saint Bumfuck, Carolina.

My life experience and intuition tell me that, as a sovereign but very imperfect man, but a free man just the same, that ME and MINE will NOT be driven to a destination of their choosing. We will drive where the fuck we please.

WE will drive THEM into the fire when the time comes.

Swrichmond
Swrichmond
November 28, 2021 7:42 pm

“I don’t want to rehash the entirety of this slapdash approach to handling a problem that we spend trillions of dollars and decades preparing for only to look as if we could never see it coming because anyone reading this could think of far more than I could list. ”

Remember the FEMA response to Katrina in New Orleans? That was the best the bureacracy could muster, never having had to do anything real or productive.

The difference is, the covid reaponse is deliberate.

Jon
Jon
November 28, 2021 9:21 pm

Dr.s Tom Cowan and Andrew Kaufman have a very interesting take on what a “virus” may be and what may be responsible for large mass “infections” and, of course, we all know the story behind the “covid-19 positive” results of the PCR test, discredited for the use by the inventor himself.

Whatever the truth may be about viral origin and contagion there can only be one certainty; The mass media certainly isn’t the place to find it.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  Jon
November 28, 2021 11:01 pm

I believe Dr.s Cowan and Kaufman to be correct concerning germ theory, viruses, and terrain theory. The word virus simply means poison. To “catch a virus” is actually a cellular detox.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Vigilant
November 28, 2021 11:25 pm

Yes, when a rabid animal bites you and if you don’t get the rabies antiviral treatment, you can console yourself in knowing that the failed ‘cellular detoxing’ is what killed you rather than the rabies virus. Ditto for Hantavirus and small pox.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  Mygirl....maybe
November 29, 2021 10:33 am

Being bit by a dog and becoming sick from something floating through the air are two different things.

Have you actually examined the explanations of both theories? Without emotional attachment to one particular theory? Can you set aside the indoctrination and think critically? It seems to me that you merely parrot the official story. Try to prove the official story wrong, and in the process you will be much closer to finding the truth. Advocates of terrain theory admit that it is only a theory, whereas proponents of germ *theory* present it as an absolute fact. True science is about continuing experiments to support or disprove a theory. True science is not meant to produce religious devotion to any of its theories. Modern scientism is not actual science.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Vigilant
November 29, 2021 11:57 am

You never specified how that ‘poison’ was acquired, no mention of anything ‘floating’ thru the air. Don’t accuse me of conflating scientism with science and then make a general statement that a virus is poison while making no specific reference as to how that ‘poison’ is acquired. Did you eat it? Breath it in or was it coming from the bite of a diseased animal. How did you ‘catch’ that ‘cellular detox?’

The fact is…. being bitten by a rabid dog will give you rabies, rabies is a virus and if you want to call it a germ, have at it but…it is a virus. No amount of healthy living is going to protect you from rabies if you are bitten and unless you recieve treatment with immunoglobin and antivirals you WILL DIE.

WhiskeyTangoFauxnews
WhiskeyTangoFauxnews
  Mygirl....maybe
November 29, 2021 4:33 pm

Mygirl… maybe (love it!… I can only hope! – Love your posts!)
You make a strong case for the “virus”, but… HSF makes an equally strong case against the present reality we are all experiencing (IMHO)… “bewildering antinomies” is most appropriate in this case.
While I agree with most everything you assert, we need to compare apples to apples, not a “dog bite” vs. an “ambiguous disease” w/many different symptoms.

I have never seen so many down votes for your posts… can’t we all just get along?… and move harmoniously towards the same goal? (which I believe most agree upon!)

Anyways, I always love to read and appreciate your comments!

HSF – fantastic writing, as always!

Peace and Love to you both!

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  WhiskeyTangoFauxnews
November 29, 2021 4:57 pm

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Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  WhiskeyTangoFauxnews
November 29, 2021 8:51 pm

WTFN:
I’m not arguing against HSF’s reasoning as per the Covid hoax. I happen to agree with him.
My contention is with those who want to deny the existence of viruses, bacteria (germs) etc. and who want to believe that healthy living will protect you from All diseases.
I’m also ‘endearing ‘ myself by goring some sacred cows, like a disbarred physician who is getting rich from selling encapsulated bovine offal to his credulous admirers while pitching the same sermon which the likes of Doctor Kellog pitched in thelate 19th century.

:””Dr. Kellogg’s “biologic living” called for more exercise, more bathing, and eating whole grains and less meat. Like with today’s paleo or organic food trends, he portrayed this as a scientific return to natural principles. “To eat biologically,” he wrote, “is simply to eat scientifically, to eat normally.”

Thank you for the kudos, I have a devoted following on this thread, very loyal to the farmer and when they down vote me they do so with devotion asperity, loyalty and love for him. He is sacrosanct.

Dr. Cowan promotes…

https://drtomcowan.com/products/grass-fed-bovine-tracheal-cartilage-by-ancestral-supplements

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Mygirl....maybe
November 29, 2021 9:07 pm
Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  hardscrabble farmer
November 29, 2021 9:28 pm
hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Mygirl....maybe
November 29, 2021 11:09 pm

See how we turned that around?
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Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  hardscrabble farmer
November 29, 2021 11:39 pm

Some see the glass as half full, others see it as half empty.
comment image?w=970&ssl=1

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mygirl....maybe
December 2, 2021 3:22 am

engineer: the glass is twice as large as it needs to be

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  hardscrabble farmer
November 30, 2021 1:21 am

HSF,

You’re my kind of people but, I’ve got to say, I would not want Mygirl on the side of my enemy. AS LONG as she can stick to a script/goal and stand by her compatriots do or die. That, I am not too sure of.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Glock-N-Load
November 30, 2021 2:37 am

Sissy.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  Mygirl....maybe
November 30, 2021 3:25 pm

“My contention is with those who want to deny the existence of viruses, bacteria (germs)”

As the article reads and in response to it, we have been discussing a particular virus, and viruses in general. As far as I can tell, no one on this page has denied the existence of bacteria. Bacteria have a nucleus, their own DNA, a propulsion system, waste removal, etc. The waste products from bacteria can make one sick. Other microbes, aka germs, exist. Terrain theory does indeed address how a microbe can be related to illness.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Vigilant
November 30, 2021 6:02 pm

I was responding to one, repeat, one commenter when HSF stuck his nose into the conversation and brought up Covid. He couldn’t help himself, animosity is powerful. It went downhill from there and the usual pile on commenced.

Your love affair with the dear ‘Doctor’ Cowan is evident, you repeat his every word faithfully. If you want to get into a hash up re Pasteur and germ theory, or how science isn’t real or microscopic imagery is fake, do so all by yourself.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  Mygirl....maybe
December 1, 2021 2:34 pm

*A Contrarian View of the Virus Hoax*
is the title of the article.

The whole entire article is about viruses in general and SARS CoV 2 in particular. The title includes the word Hoax. It was completely acceptable for *anyone* to reply to your comment, and the posted replies are relative to the topics presented in the article. If you wanted to have a private conversation, you should have emailed the person off board. An open forum is not all about you.

Love affair. ROFL! A schoolgirl reaction.
I repeat his every word faithfully? I’m not privy to his every word, so how does that work? Your exaggerations diminish your credibility.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Vigilant
December 1, 2021 8:01 pm

You repeat the ‘poison’ claim at every opportunity and you cited Cowan repeatedly on this thread. To cite someone many times over does indicate a certain reliance on that person’s ‘teachings.’ Evidently you missed the part about who I was originally replying to and how that really wasn’t part of the Covid conversation, so, I’ll repeat that part of my comment….

I was responding to one, repeat, one commenter when HSF stuck his nose into the conversation and brought up Covid. He couldn’t help himself, animosity is powerful. It went downhill from there and the usual pile on commenced.

Now, if you chose to ignore what I wrote I can’t help you.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  Mygirl....maybe
November 29, 2021 4:45 pm

It was not my intention to accuse you of anything. I’m trying to discuss the issue, not argue about it.

DS
DS
  Mygirl....maybe
November 29, 2021 7:29 pm

What is the source of the rabies virus in this case? Did the dog acquire it from an external source, or is it an exosome of the unhealthy dog? If the former, where did that source critter get it? It seems like it had to start as a cellular waste product from something, because — as I understand it — a virus is not really “alive” per se, but rather is a strand or sub-strand of DNA or RNA that exists in some type of carrier (lipid?) unit.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  DS
November 29, 2021 8:55 pm

By golly, those are great questions…let us hope those promoting the ‘not virus’ narrative can provide some answers.

WTF
WTF
November 28, 2021 10:17 pm

HSF, I agree with you on every point except that I don’t want the parasites to come to my neck of the woods because they aren’t worth rehabbing. Every so many years humanity needs cleansing.

wildhorses
wildhorses
November 28, 2021 10:24 pm

There may be a virus, but it pales before the threat of our own species, hell bent on driving us all to a destination of their own choosing.

I once read a near paper-think book which I would quote from in an upbeat fashion. “But of all the microbes in the world, only 200 are fatal.” Reactions to my upbeat wonder were social kindness facial expressions fully implying I was not entertaining.

Another book The Killers Within: The Deadly Rise Of Drug-Resistant Bacteria I would share my interest in as well. And not any takers to share the easy to comprehend scientific interest with as well.

I hear you HSF. I also hear the not so easy to, at first glance, self-study of advanced A & P, a side hobby of mine.

In advanced A & P, negative-feedback loops and positve-feedback loops are introduced. And further studies for every system can advance understanding of physiology for a lifetime. (I am aware you are familiar with them.)

Microbes have neg/pos feedback loops too; children should study them.

Having conversations about health or climate change with loved ones or others has always been based on their sources/authority. One time I asked someone to explain to me climate change using the Neg/Pos feedback loops. Silence. All the super-ego engery to vocalize their knowledge and sudden stop.

All children before the age of nine are better served for understanding your wisdom if they are introduced to advanced A & P. The science of homeostasis will jar them and your way of life will be reasonable to them. And yes, they can absorb this material.

Trusting the establishment, a solid hard pass.

Young children learning about advanced A & P as a core study instead of being lectured or seduced by any Big Market specialist, an absolute yes! Solid sources have to be advanced in communities, whereby others can continue new roots from your contributions.

wildhorses
wildhorses
  wildhorses
November 28, 2021 10:30 pm

Except the reproductive systems. Children can have a full understanding of homeostasis and advanced A & P without introduction to the reproductive systems.

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
November 28, 2021 11:24 pm

sorry for repeat, but computer is messed up

Doc Adams
Doc Adams
November 28, 2021 11:40 pm

Was doing some online research a couple weeks back and ran onto an interesting thought about viruses: the writer was speculating on the point source of a genetic defect that causes excessive blood clotting and suggested that about 10,000 years ago there were no viruses, primarily because animals had not yet been domesticated and humans did not yet live in large groups. Make of it what you will.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Doc Adams
November 28, 2021 11:48 pm

The earliest life forms were single celled entities, bacteria and viruses.

“According to Caetano-Anolles’s microbial family tree, viruses are ancient – but they were not the first form of life. In fact, his family tree suggests viruses and bacteria share a common ancestor – a fully functioning, self-replicating cell that lived around 3.4 billion years ago, shortly after life first emerged on the planet.”

https://cosmosmagazine.com/science/biology/what-came-first-cells-or-viruses/#:~:text=According%20to%20Caetano-Anolles%E2%80%99s%20microbial%20family%20tree%2C%20viruses%20are,shortly%20after%20life%20first%20emerged%20on%20the%20planet.

bigfoot
bigfoot
  Mygirl....maybe
November 29, 2021 3:39 am

cowan-dr-tom-breaking-the-spell-PDF-for-digital-reading

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  bigfoot
November 29, 2021 12:08 pm

Dr. Cowan is no longer a doctor, he is a purveyor of vitamins and charges $375 for a consultation. He lost his license to practice medicine and makes his money selling his ‘special’ nutritional products, like ‘Grassfed Tracheal Cartridge’ which is…are you ready? Cow windpipe. Now, if you think cattle offal and cow windpipes are the answer to your health problems then have at it and if you want to worship at his font, so be it….Charlatans abound and they ALWAYS preach the same sermons. Go read up on Dr. Kellog for the sermon, it’s been around for many, many years.

Ken31
Ken31
  Mygirl....maybe
November 29, 2021 2:24 pm

I don’t know. I haven’t tried grassfed tracheal cartridge, but when I read it I knew that it was cow windpipe. Is that supposed to be some esoteric knowledge or something? I don’t know if it works. I do know that if more Dr.’s were ethical, they would be losing their licenses in droves as they refused to go along with the covid hoax. I do know that I have had to try about a hundred different pills almost randomly before finding one that works for what I need it (working with allopathic medicine).

I can’t see how trying cow throat is a worse proposition.

James the Wanderer
James the Wanderer
  Ken31
November 29, 2021 8:35 pm

Modern medicine is a roulette wheel – with 5 / 6 loaded cylinders! My doc tries, but I’m such a difficult patient –
A while back he tried to put me on Metformin – by the third dose I was bleeding out my behind, and quit. Nearly quit him as well, but might get someone worse, so stayed on. This year he prescribed some kind of statin – saying it reduced heart problems in folks my age on average by xx%. I’ve held off, partly because I want time off from work (proactively) in order to recover from any adverse reactions. Also, because disturbing rumors about 5G cellphone radiation opening calcium channels in cells are making me suspicious – Gates said only 10 – 15% of the desired population reduction could be achieved through vaccines, which jives with analysis saying only 5% of the lots of C19 vaxxines are causing 100% of the deaths and other complications (per VAERS data). That 5G might be another avenue to achieve the desired population reduction? With statins as an untraceable accomplice? Anyway, I haven’t started taking the statin yet – and if C19 vaxxine breaks as a poison before I do, I may never take any.
Each person’s biochemistry is UNIQUE, which is why you might be fine on Metformin and it controls your conditions, while I gives me internal bleeding. YOU are responsible for your own health, which includes ignoring your doctor when money or education leads him / her astray.

Ken31
Ken31
  James the Wanderer
November 29, 2021 8:56 pm

I do know that half of all the crap I am taking right now is for shutting down calcium channels in the neurons. It does wonders from me and that is not hyperbole. Overactive calcium channels can cause havoc all over the physiology and neurology. Probably with some generally predictable psychological effects like anxiety. All cells have calcium channels, though. There are many different kinds.

If your doctor is going after blood work, I would consider first trying fiber to remove blood cholesterol. This works because your digestive juices are made of cholesterol and that’s what they get recycled back into when they get re-absorbed. Removing it with fiber is the only reliable way to change that one metric that I and the biochemistry staff at my Uni know about. A variety of “nutraceuticals” can also help with that. I find that natural fats and vegetables and staying away from carbs works and keeps my doctor off my back.

That is good advice to maintain ownership of your health decisions. Doctors are not perfect.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  James the Wanderer
November 30, 2021 3:36 pm

Statins also mess with testosterone, as cholesterol is needed to make testosterone.

i forget
i forget
  James the Wanderer
November 30, 2021 3:37 pm

A doc told me I was borderline & that she was at the ready with the statin solution. I told her I’d rather have a heart attack & die (than swallow the official poison).

WILL DIE is upthread somewhere…& is the capitalized capitol, the seat of power, that many prostrate themselves before.

As if submission means you won’t die.

Or as if, at the least, trading away the qualities for some more quantity is just the obvious thing to do. (Many great billionaires lead the way on that one.)

“Sissie” is also upthread somewhere.

Unique biochemistry. Yes. There it is. The true thing that “medicine” does not revolve around.

Instead, medicine melts down & averages big batches of one true things, & grades on the resulting curve. A is A is something Ayn loved about Aristotle ~ just an alliteration thing, maybe ~ but it ain’t so in this classroom.

Result, by its own internal investigations (conflict of interest free), is 250k killed outright annually.

That’s 250,000 Pintos with exploding gas tanks that, because rigging, are cheaper, more “profitable, to litigate &/or payoff than to make sound.

Nothing is more “profitable” than war. But war is just symptom, isn’t it? The real “profit” center is perversity. Chris Hedges title nails it, “War Is a Force that Gives Us Meaning.”

Hedges title also drops a lack of imagination cherry on top of the Sundae sermonizing. Today’s Sam Clemens birthday:

https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/WarPrayer.pdf

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Ken31
November 29, 2021 9:00 pm

The loyal promoters of Dr. Cowan should be able to tell you about his products, he’s selling cow windpipe to the masses for the low, low price of $42.oo for one hundred capsules. I could suggest going to the butcher and asking for the bovine tracheas and making your own ‘medicine’ if you want to save a pfenning or two.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  Mygirl....maybe
November 30, 2021 4:17 pm

I don’t know who here is a loyal promoter of Thomas Cowan, so I can only speak for myself. His name has been referenced here, so for me it was easier to use his name as an example of those who speak about terrain theory. Some others are Andrew Kaufman, Amandha Vollmer, Dawn Lester, David Martin, and Steve Buster. Jon Rappoport speaks against the virus hoax and viruses in general, but I don’t know where he stands on terrain theory.

Of those just mentioned, I know that some, if not all, have new age beliefs that I absolutely do not agree with. I’m going by logic, reasoning, and the facts presented to form my belief about what causes illness, not the personalities of those presenting the facts.

I don’t know the spiritual beliefs of the following men, but I do know that they disproved germ theory over a hundred years ago: Antoine Bechamp, Gustav Jacob Henle, Claude Bernard, and Max Von Pettenkofer. If you feel strongly that Cowan is not credible, I’ve given several other options to consider.

Some of the contemporaries of Pasteur addressed the cause of rabies. If you care to research, you may find your answer among their works.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Vigilant
November 30, 2021 6:37 pm

If you care to research, you may find your answer among their works.

Why? Who developed the rabies vaccine? None of those aforementioned folk antagonistic to Pasteur did, and that’s a fact. Did they address the cause of rabies and come up with any treatments or cures? Nope. They speculated and theorized but created nothing.

Cowan et al. repeat the mantra that has been stated from long ago, the Hygenic Movement, a mantra that Dr. Kellogg and others of his ilk also promoted, stating that disease comes from : poor diet, eating meat, masturbating, impure thoughts or separation from God, etc.

Cowan and his contemporaries sell products and books and seminars and promote the same group-think, each with his own ‘special ‘ twist to distinguish him/herself from the rest of the herd. They denigrate allopathic medicine and make claims and assertions that are correct, up to a point, but fail to address how diseases like rabies and Hantha virus can be ameliorated merely by clean living and proper diet.

Mary Baker Eddy, founder of Christian Science, and Phineas Quimby(her mentor) believed that prayer would heal all ills. The creator of the muppets, Jim Henson, was a Chrisitan Scientist.

Age: 53 New York City, New York. Died (septic shock) May 16, 1990. He had felt sick for several days. His wife later told a magazine that he probably delayed going to the hospital due in part to his Christian Science upbringing. Had he gone earlier his infection would have been treatable. Instead he died.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  Mygirl....maybe
December 1, 2021 3:34 pm

“Who developed the rabies vaccine?”

Do you know anything about the history surrounding the introduction of the rabies vaccine? Do you have an understanding of why Pasteur’s contemporaries viewed the situation differently? and their conclusions on the matter? Have you ever heard of the Flexner Report? Do you understand the power of financial backing and propaganda?

There is solid proof of vaccine damage and death, and exponentially more so with the current rona offerings. Pasteur admitted to fraud upon his death bed. It’s time to re-examine whether or not anyone needs a vaccine for anything. Have you ever read a vaccine ingredient list? Do you understand what the ingredients are for and what they do to living beings?

Your introduction of strawmen creates a smokescreen which detracts from seeking solid evidence of what does or does not cause illness and disease, and what are the valid solutions other than pharmaceutical drugs. Do you know the definition of pharmakeia?

It’s not wise to cling to the official allopathic narratives without question. It’s the difference between being indoctrinated and being educated.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Vigilant
December 1, 2021 4:58 pm

The clotshots aren’t vaccines. Don’t confuse them with a true vaccine that stimulates antibodies.

If you are ever unfortunate enough to be bitten by a rabid animal will you eschew allopathic treatment completely and then wait and see what happens? Quibbling over vaccines while you slowly suffer an agonizing death won’t validate theories.

Pharmakeia is witchcraft, sorcery, practicing magic. Pharmacon is a poison…you sure are fascinated with poison. I’ve had pneumonia and a few other diseases that would have killed me without antibiotics. You can avoid drugs and allopathic treatments if that is your desire. I will use whatever is at hand to heal myself.

Pasteur was a prick and quasi-conman, however, and this is the key, his rabies vaccines worked. His treatment of the boy worked and his subsequent treatments also worked and continue to work today. NO ONE else created a rabies vaccine, did they?

Don’t conflate the current clotshot with a true vaccine, it isn’t. The CDC and FDA changed the definition of vaccine and pandemic to suit their agenda.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34841223/
https://sharylattkisson.com/2021/09/read-cdc-changes-definition-of-vaccines-to-fit-covid-19-vaccine-limitations/

Ken31
Ken31
  Mygirl....maybe
November 29, 2021 2:18 pm

That stuff always looked more like astrology than science to me, but it always sounds good when the zoologists tell it.

Ken31
Ken31
  Doc Adams
November 29, 2021 2:16 pm

Viruses are believed (suspected ) to pre-date animals by a lot. They are studied a lot more in plants, because it is significantly easier to study them because of the cell wall making everything so sturdy. One of the reasons it is impossible (not possible) to make an envelope vaccine safely is that it is very fragile. Studying things on a lipid bilayer membrane is incredibly difficult. With plants you get these hard structures you can crystalize. And you can do tests that show what they are doing and how and then watch it happening when it lyses, because you can see some of the organelles in a plant cell well enough to deduce. And then you can use them to move around genetic material and test for that and its expression, and it goes on and on how we can study them with enough confidence to make some of the general claims about viruses.

I do think it is an interesting claim that these might be waste being throw around as an origin, but I don’t see how that changes being able to demonstrate what they do in the cases where they are isolated. I think a major problem with SARS-Cov-2 is that the claims it has been isolated are not easily verifiable and that I am unaware of anyone besides the CDC making the claim to have isolated it. All other labs get their test material from the CDC. They could be forging viruses quite easily.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  Ken31
November 29, 2021 5:09 pm

From what I understand, the virus has never been isolated, by anyone anywhere. They haven’t purified it, and there was no control. A great comment on the process from I forget, from up above:

A Contrarian View of the Virus Hoax

Knowing how twisted the whole method is, and all the omissions of the facts needed in order to make an informed consent, the bottom line is that no one should be force injected, or coerced to be injected, over such questionable “science.” Human consciousness and the right simply to be trump science.

Ken31
Ken31
  Vigilant
November 29, 2021 6:24 pm

I found a lot of science journal articles on sequencing it. So they have all confidently sequenced similar samples with similar results, but I couldn’t find anywhere they claimed to have isolated it themselves. Science journals like to save space so they can still do print editions, and normally that kind of procedure might be left out, but I think it is important in this context, since we clearly can’t trust authorities.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  Ken31
November 30, 2021 3:46 pm

That’s the bottom line, there have been many computer generated sequences, but no actual isolation.
If we are to “trust the science,” then that science had better be pretty damn accurate, because lives and livelihoods are being destroyed over the assertion that this virus will kill millions of us.

Ghost
Ghost
  Vigilant
November 30, 2021 3:49 pm

You posted the 200th comment and didn’t note it.

Be more vigilant, please.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  Ghost
December 1, 2021 3:51 pm

LOL! How do we know what number our comment is?

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Vigilant
November 30, 2021 6:50 pm

You’re speaking of a weaponized in-all -aspects virus. A chimeric lab creation of Sars and Mers and HIV. A politicized virus, created in the lab and used as a weapon to destroy Western Civilization so the Great Reset can be made manifest. To say the science, all science, is wrong because you are focused on Covid 19 and how it is politicized and used is a tad disingenuous.

Muscledawg (not to be known as Delusionaldawg)😉
Muscledawg (not to be known as Delusionaldawg)😉
November 29, 2021 6:21 am

Fantastic as usual HSF. I tend to agree with your assessment of the existence of viruses. Jon Rappaport has been investigating this for @ 40 yrs. Been reading him for many yrs.

Vigilant
Vigilant

Rappoport is another great source for truth about viruses and truth about the current psyop.

very old white guy
very old white guy
November 29, 2021 6:28 am

The one solution that was ignored and the one most likely to have produced positive results was, DO NOTHING.

very old white guy
very old white guy
November 29, 2021 6:40 am

Ah, I remember the good old days. When you felt poorly and went to see your local Doc. He looked at you, took your temp, pulse and said, you have a virus, there is nothing you can do except go home and take something for the fever and drink plenty of fluids and rest. That used to work.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  very old white guy
November 29, 2021 10:46 am

Correct. An antibiotic would not be effective because viruses are not alive. They can’t function outside of a host. The current psyop wouldn’t be working if everyone could remember known facts from before 2020.

Fielding Mellish
Fielding Mellish
November 29, 2021 7:18 am

It’s a brave new world because you have to be brave to live in it. Apparently to be human is a disease and to be healthy is an act of terrorism.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  Fielding Mellish
November 29, 2021 10:50 am

Repeated often in sci-fi movies, the aliens explain to the humans that humans are a disease, a scourge against the planet.

Ken31
Ken31
  Vigilant
November 29, 2021 2:33 pm

So strange, those recurring themes from (((Hollywood))).

SmallerGovNow
SmallerGovNow
November 29, 2021 8:03 am

Awesome post HSF… Chip

Guest
Guest
November 29, 2021 8:41 am

I highly suggest reading, The Truth About Contagion, by Thomas Cowen MD and Sally Fallon Morrell.

Pilot Doc
Pilot Doc
November 29, 2021 10:48 am

Perfect Hardscrabble. Eloquent and precise. Well said.

Ken31
Ken31
November 29, 2021 12:57 pm

Viruses are real, but only researches and doctors need worry about them. There isn’t much we can do or need to do about them. Wash your hands before you eat and after use the toilet and practice sustainable agriculture.

I agree with you, Hardscrabble. I take 5 prescriptions, but they are all the result of a physical injury (no pain meds), most people take stuff they only need because they aren’t eating and living well. Some of those pills out there can only kill slowly (e.g. statins).

The land, God, and people make all of the important bonds. What strains any of those bonds creates a lot of misery. What are the powerful doing that affect those bonds? Whatever they are doing, we don’t have to let them interfere with our lives.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  KaD
November 29, 2021 11:16 pm

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Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  hardscrabble farmer
November 29, 2021 11:41 pm

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Guest
Guest
November 30, 2021 8:43 am

It’s obvious the health professionals are the most programmed people in the world.
Not all is malice just education and being busy, etc.

However they are not practicing science at that point and just automated.
There’s enough info out there now to condemn them and I do, especially in terms of hospital protocols.

These new germ etc theories have been around for quite awhile now, and they are a different way of looking at the evidence. Pasteur being discredited should have been enough to make all sit up and take notice.

There is something in human nature that just can’t let go of a pet theory, and experts are the worst and end up destroying their fields. Unfortunately in the case of health it can destroy people, too. Fake history, etc not so much, but al all are destructive ultimately.

ursel doran
ursel doran
November 30, 2021 5:22 pm

Austrian lays out the Nano carbon in the vaccine. “Non degradable razor blades in the blood stream.”
I can see no reason to disbelieve this guy’s explanation of the carbon in the “vaccine”.

MURDER! Just Hours After Publishing the Secret of the Vaxx, Dr Noack is DEAD

mark
mark
  ursel doran
November 30, 2021 7:00 pm

Me either…and it cost him his life.

He was an MIA (murdered in action).

Fielding Mellish
Fielding Mellish
December 1, 2021 6:45 am

It should be quite apparent that the so-called Omicron variant of Covid-19 is a state sponsored con job of epic proportions designed to expand state sponsored control of the population. We are being OmiCONNED! The Dr. in South Africa who discovered the variant has already made it clear that the Omicron is not a serious threat. What is a threat is the fear that is being unnecessarily generated by the expert scaremongers in the state controlled media. I see the terror in the eyes of the people when I go to the supermarket. People who live by what the mass media tells them have no idea the extent to which they are being conned. This is likely to be the final nail in the coffin of what is left of our democracy. I mourn the loss and you should too. Apparently we have descended into a deep rabbit hole of unreality where to be human is now a disease and to be healthy is a form of terrorism. How did we ever allow this to happen? Future anthropologists will wonder how a whole civilization could have committed suicide.

RiNS
RiNS
December 1, 2021 7:19 am

This current enterprise is being orchestrated by sociopaths who’s only intent is our demise.

RiNS
RiNS
December 1, 2021 8:13 am

This fellow is great!

Anonymous
Anonymous
December 1, 2021 1:09 pm

Covering all their bases now. Wouldnt want you connecting any HiV dots….
https://www.jpost.com/podcast/did-africans-with-aids-cause-the-omicron-covid-variant-687493

Braedan Eberhard
Braedan Eberhard
December 1, 2021 6:40 pm

These people walk amongst us every day just remember that…