Whose Lies Can You Trust?

Guest Post by James Rothenberg

CogBlog – A Cognitive Psychology Blog » Unraveling the mechanism behind “a  lie repeated a thousand times becomes truth”: A cognitive account

I read that we’ve entered a “post truth” age. I dislike the term because it seems too sure of itself, as if it encompasses all there is to encompass. As if it should come to mean the same thing to everyone. The worst is “holocaust”, a word I’ve forbidden myself to use for the reasons just mentioned.

Sure, something’s been accelerating. It’s hard to miss the competitive manipulation taking place in the “information age”, another shorthand though with more authenticity. At a certain point in his presidency, the Washington Post catalogued 10,000 of Donald Trump’s lies. They were practically giddy about it. “Now we’ve got him!”, they seemed to be saying. “10,000!”.

Isador Feinstein Stone published the newsletter, I. F. Stone’s Weekly, from 1953-1971. Albert Einstein, Bertrand Russell, and Eleanor Roosevelt were among the first subscribers. (If the reader is unimpressed, this is a good place to stop.) As an investigative journalist, Stone’s bedrock principle was that all governments lie. It’s tempting to say that we find too few like him today. More to the point, there are always and everywhere too few like him. They are the anti-authoritarians.

Once we accept as a given that all governments lie, it reduces to, whose lies can you trust? The answer is easy. You’ll trust the lies of your own country before any other. An example of “post truth”? No, the truth about the lies.

To lie is to be at cross-purposes with the target of the lie. It exposes an adversarial relationship between the two. The unavoidable conclusion is that government is in an adversarial relationship with its own people. How do these cross-purposes come to exist between our government and the people it lies to?

First we should define the sides in this internal conflict because it’s not just government on one side. Multinational corporations have become such a potent force that government must consult with them, and vice versa. Their symbiosis is based on capitalism with a revolving door existing between the public and private sector. When you’re high up in one, you’re not far from the other.

We wouldn’t know we were being lied to without government’s microphone, the mega corporations that disseminate information to us, also a potent international force. And then, easy to overlook, what is government but the only two competing political parties in America, “both sides of the aisle”. There is an aisle, and Democrats and Republicans do sit on opposing sides. And they do have their differences. Otherwise you couldn’t tell them apart. But these differences largely run along cultural lines, and increasingly so.

Not that these are unimportant. They’re very important, but the parties come to be identified mainly by their stances and clashes on sexuality, civil rights, reproduction, religion, immigration and skin color to the exclusion of what could be the most crucial area to disagree on, but isn’t.

Are we to assume that because they differ so strongly on certain things, that their agreement on other things is a good indication of their virtue? I think not because such conformity is less a sign of reasoned judgment than of subordination to larger interests. The result of their general agreement is that we have no major political party independent of capitalist imperialism as promulgated by Wall Street, the Pentagon, the State Department, and the intelligence/security industry.

This is where the “national interest” is manufactured, the great secret plans that are hammered out for our own good. Ordinary people cannot be entrusted to determine the interests of their own country because they might be at odds with the manufactured kind.

Imagine if the public had had a say over the question, in 2003, of whether or not we should invade Iraq. No, forget that. That’s not a good example. The public was in favor of it. But why? For months we were the target of an intense propaganda campaign to sway our support for a decision to attack that had already been made. If you convince people that we’re fighting them “over there” so that we don’t have to fight them “over here”, well, that figures to be enough to win them over.

Now go back to 1991 and the dissolution of the Soviet Union. Much talk about a “peace dividend”. Nice ring to it. The United States has had the lion’s share of the world’s wealth since WW2, and now it had the wealth and no viable rivals anywhere in sight.

However, it was considered to be in the “national interest” to expand NATO, an alliance solely formed to counter the communist menace of the Soviet Union, which no longer existed. There was to be no peace dividend. It’s a made-up thing anyway.

Since then, 13 countries have joined NATO pushing east toward Russia’s borders. Russia’s leadership regards it as a provocation. You can argue against this but only if you wouldn’t consider it a provocation if Russia had formed a military alliance with Cuba, Mexico, and Canada, or any of the three. I suspect patriotic Americans will reject this dialectic.

Imagine if the public had had a say over the question, in 1991, of whether or not we should expand our military alliance with its attendant costs, or whether we should reap the dividend by seeking a more cooperative relationship with the whole of Eurasia including the Middle East. Missing was the propaganda campaign to win our support for a peace dividend so that we could spend “over here” instead of “over there”.

People will instinctively choose peace over war. We are naturally possessed of that much empathy for others. You have to be marshaled into killing. That we identify with peoples’ suffering is evident in all the Ukrainian flag flying. That’s people, not states. States deal in straight power concepts. It is in the anarchist spirit to resist this.

To declare that Ukraine is a pawn in a great-power game greatly overstates the country’s role. A pawn can force a win by checkmate or through progression. A better metaphor is Ukraine is the board the game is being played on. The main players are the United States and Russia.

The US-led NATO contingent would like to diminish Russia as a regional power so that it can fully concentrate on its primary target, China. Russia would like to diminish NATO and expand its influence throughout Eurasia.

On February 4, Russia and China formally announced a strategic partnership, essentially declaring their intention to remake the world order. This wouldn’t have come as a surprise to the United States because it sits atop the existing world order — precariously — and knows perfectly well about the threat China poses to its hegemony. Russia needs China. China doesn’t need Russia, but finds it useful. This accounts for its “hands off” policy in Ukraine.

Putin seems to have calculated, correctly, that the United States has no appetite for a direct military clash over Ukraine. The partnership building with China was likely decisive in ordering the strike. The United States is in full-hypocrisy mode when Nancy Pelosi pledges, “to help the Ukrainian people as they defend democracy for their nation and for the world.”

You’re supposed to be oblivious to the United States orchestrated coup, in 2014, that removed a democratically elected Ukrainian president because he was not sufficiently pro-West. The script never changes. But you can trust it.

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flash
flash
May 30, 2022 8:12 am

From Ezra Pound to Mike Pence
Tom Zaja
713 words

Mosely, Yockey, Evola, and Pound:
Their marbles lost, but genius found.
Or perhaps it’s just The System’s guise
To sully, defame, and pathologize
All those eccentric in speech and prose
Who point out the emperors’ lack of clothes.
The price is further loss of mind
Assigned asylum (of the psychiatric kind).
Much simpler to be a moderate today
And buffer liberalism on a ten-year delay.

Steve King, Queen Ann, Jack Posobiec —
Admittedly we’re not dealing with a full deck.
And then there is Dr. David Duke
Whose main thesis they can’t rebuke.
What is the moral of the story
When silencing kooks is their utmost worry?
Alex Jones and Stefan Molyneux,
Forgotten within the conservative milieu,
From principled solidarity most have availed
It’ll be that censorship has already sailed.

The leader of the pack’s still Trump
Of orange peel and mushroom stump.
His ambrosia is hamburgers, his nectar aspartame.
America wanted the profound, but just got the profane.
“We all bleed red,” Trump crooned at his inauguration
(He’d already said similar about Megyn Kelly’s menstruation).
“Record black employment” he’d never cease to sermonize
While “monitoring the situation” for his persecuted allies.
And when they would accuse him of closet white supremacy
He’d hide behind his son-in-law and the new US embassy.

For the Trumpian faithful it’s one big cope
While others have turned to a newer hope:
Tucker Carlson, who says the election was legit
And dutifully wears a Kabbalah bracelet.
But supporters confirm him to be /our guy/;
Poor Hannity’s mouth still tastes of fungi.
The lesson is with fox & friends like these
You don’t need any other enemies
Since their greatest exploit is My Pillow sales
And the casting couch of Roger Ailes.

Now Charlie Kirk is the youthful tea-bagger;
Every college appearance is a real chin-wagger.
The agenda has all the Conservative™ kitsch
But when you flank Lady MAGA, who is the real bitch?
And yet he’s less pesky than Dinesh D’Souza:
“Dems are the real racists,” cries the irony-abuser.
Greta Thunberg, he says, wears NaZi pig-tails.
Just wait till he learns from where the swastika hails.
A lifetime achievement of deep nasal quibbling
But still India’s finest, behind Rudyard Kipling.

The Intellectual Dark Web is the grifter’s fake lesson:
Dave Rubin, Douglas Murray, Milo, Jordan Peterson.
Its tenure is mostly a social media racket
Of a Dangerous Fag and drugged-up straitjacket.
Ben Shapiro is their plucky, concomitant act
Who fled California because of “cultural impact.”
He likes to name-drop his wife’s medical career;
Too bad she can’t cure his verbal diarrhea.
He’ll have no more Hanukah in downtown Santa Monica.
Instead he’s enriched Florida, with yet another yarmulke.

There is another tribe, a rather noble clan
Dressed not in white robes, but in Scottish tartan:
Heather Mac Donald, the polite empiricist;
Based comedian Norm, already sorely missed.
Do they finally realize up in conservative heaven
What we needed all along was a little more Kevin?
And Pat Buchanan deserves honorable mention.
His Death of the West warrants special comprehension.
It was all foreseen earlier by Spengler’s great mind
So we send him our salutes, of the Teutonic kind.

The past year took Sheldon Adelson and Colin Powell.
It’s good when even warmongers must throw in the towel.
We need another Enoch, rather than a neo-con
His rivers of blood have become the new Rubicon.
But the Grim Reaper is fickle, and very rarely vexed.
Pack warm clothes, Mr. Kissinger, I think you may be next.
And since the Reaper is Right-wing in pop-culture depiction
We may as well supply him with a sardonic prescription:
If you prefer heretics and their pietistic stances
Take Pope Francis right away, but give us back Sam Francis.

Glenn Beck, Mitt Romney, Ben Carson, Mike Pence
Prefer to merely hand-wring and sit on the fence.
Camp of the Saints they cannot fathom as prophetic.
Their wisdom isn’t really theirs, their moral fabric is synthetic.
Without dissent and refutal they will slowly outcompete us;
They conserve hardly anything more than the inner-city fetus.
So spare us the prim, the virtuous, and the ministerial
And give us the droll, the aberrant, and vividly ethereal.
The currency of prodigy has never made greater sense:
It’s better to have one Ezra Pound than a hundred Mike Pence.

https://counter-currents.com/2022/05/from-ezra-pound-to-mike-pence/

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  flash
May 30, 2022 9:21 am

Most excellent Flash.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
May 30, 2022 8:34 am

I believe nothing I read, see, or hear if it’s from any MSM. And I sure as hell don’t believe anything about that slaughter at that Texas elementary school. They always leave out the facts, and when caught lying, invent new ones. Like, show me a video of that door that was left “propped open”. At least a picture. And there’s nothing except, ” We’re the authorities, and you have to trust us.”

Grumpy
Grumpy
May 30, 2022 8:38 am

Nice description of fascism in the US. Government/business “partnership”. Classic definition, not the current farcical one on Wike.

flash
flash
  Grumpy
May 30, 2022 9:07 am

” I have been playing this game for a long time now, and the rules are they infiltrate people into your sphere so you listen to them, and they try to tell you things that make you do what they want, often things you will tend to believe because you will want to believe them. And then you get fooled and do what they want.”

News Briefs – 05/29/2022

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flash
flash
May 30, 2022 9:18 am

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Ken31
Ken31
  flash
May 30, 2022 12:00 pm

The Turtle moves!

Aunt Acid
Aunt Acid
  flash
May 31, 2022 2:01 am

The real Mitch McConnell

Stucky
Stucky
May 30, 2022 9:20 am

I’m never irrational like a liberal.
I never experience cognitive dissonance.
I only and always base my opinions on pure facts.
I always have all the possible facts at hand.
I never ever prejudge.
I am always open to new truths — my mind is never made up beforehand.
“Sir, the check is in the mail.”
“Honey, I won’t come in your mouth.”

We trust the lies that make us feel good about ourselves. Every time.

eckbach
eckbach
May 30, 2022 9:25 am

But Dresden WAS a holocaust. And Hamburg, Aachen, Essen, Darmstadt, Cologne, Berlin, Trier, Hamm, and on and on…

flash
flash
May 30, 2022 9:25 am

The capital strong rule the economic weak. It’s capitalism , bruh. Don;t make it hard on yourself. Just go gently into that dark night.

Although, this multinational exposure may be a lie too… the big lie is real.

“There is irrefutable evidence. We’ve been involved in a major counterintelligence operation that’s very mature in this country, involving federal agencies and us. And there’s been some betrayals along the way. There have been some issues along the way. But once we get to the point where this is ready to go, it’s going to make everybody forget everything about the mules, and it’s going to bring into question everything we think we know about these elections. Everything. I can say that with 100% certainty.”

“2000 Mules” Investigator Gregg Phillips Drops a Bomb: Investigators Discovered Multinational Player Operating in Several States (VIDEO)

Dial M for Mordor
Dial M for Mordor
May 30, 2022 9:51 am

You’re supposed to be oblivious to the United States orchestrated coup, in 2014, that removed a democratically elected Ukrainian president because he was not sufficiently pro-West.

1) What percentage of Americans were even marginally cognizant prior to the outset of hostilities in Ukraine, that a deliberate plan was executed by ‘usual-suspect’ Neolibs who have now repeatedly continuously arrange wars that they never themselves participate in, and have caused massive human suffering and death?

Probably no more than a fraction of a percent of the general US population – outside of the beltway – were aware of who was behind this, or were familiar with the name Vicki Nuland or the Kagan Klan.

2) What percentage of Americans are actually aware – today, MONTHS LATER – of the fact that a Neolib mission acting under the guise of ‘diplomats’, toppled the existing Ukraine govt and stocked it with ‘yats is the guy’ underlings, before systematically undertaking provocations of Russia, including mass shelling and murder of Russian-speaking Uke civilians… maybe a few percent?.

“If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.”

We have reached a point at which technology has given unprecedented advantage to a homicidal ruling class, while historical controls on the centralization and abuse of communications tech have actually simultaneously regressed.

When Revelations becomes the literal roadmap of a murderous global bureaucratic elite, its probably a good idea to turn off the NBA finals and educate yourself as to how we got here, and what is coming.

The Duke of New York
The Duke of New York
May 30, 2022 11:46 am

Democracy is a bad enough joke, but the US only pretends to be a democracy. Voting doesn’t mean a thing other than to be used as a prop to support what the co-opted sheep are already programmed to believed.

The US is actually a lot closer to Mussolini’s idea of a corporate-fascist dictatorship, it just puts on the window dressing of ‘democracy’ as a façade to hide that truth.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  The Duke of New York
May 30, 2022 2:22 pm

Nowhere near his version of Fascism. We have an oligarchy that is morphing into Neo Feudalism. Same as Paleo Feudalism but worse.

https://sjsu.edu/faculty/wooda/2B-HUM/Readings/The-Doctrine-of-Fascism.pdf

Jdog
Jdog
May 30, 2022 11:52 am

Truth can only be discovered by examining a preponderance of the evidence. It is a process called critical thinking. It is a skill that not one in a hundred people today possess.

Ken31
Ken31
  Jdog
May 30, 2022 12:02 pm

It is a good practice, it just doesn’t work if you trust anyone’s evidence but your own, because it is all lies anymore.

Boogieman
Boogieman
May 30, 2022 1:37 pm

The title is an oxymoron. He who lies can’t be trusted. What is trust?

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 30, 2022 1:58 pm

Joe Biden’s! I trust that he is always lying so I know the opposite is true.

clbrto
clbrto
May 30, 2022 1:59 pm

icymi: