Once again Dmitry Medvedev, the deputy chairman of Russia’s Security Council, has served the role of issuing more severe ‘read between the lines’ warnings and threats fresh off President Vladimir Putin’s Wednesday speech announcing partial mobilization of national forces and which confirmed referendums of occupied portions of Ukraine to join the Russian Federation.
Putin’s most alarming line came when he said, “If the territorial integrity of our country is threatened, we will certainly use all the means at our disposal to protect Russia and our people,” following with “It’s not a bluff.” He had also stressed Moscow is ready to use “all available” means to protect its “territorial integrity”.
Medvedev has taken the president’s words further in Thursday statements, stressing that regarding Russian-seized territory and the move to vote in several areas – including the LPR, DPR, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions – “there is no going back” and that even a ‘nuclear option’ could be on the table.
“The Donbas [Donetsk and Luhansk] republics and other territories will be accepted into Russia,” he posted to Telegram. That’s when the former president and top national security official doubled down on Putin’s nuclear warning, stating:
Russia has announced that not only mobilization capabilities, but also any Russian weapons, including strategic nuclear weapons and weapons based on new principles, could be used for such protection.
Putin and Medvedev’s statements mark the first time any top Russian officials have affirmed readiness to bring newly acquired Russian territories under Moscow’s nuclear doctrine.
However, it remains that Russian forces do not yet control 100% of any of the four main territories where annexation votes are to be held – with some referendums set for early as this weekend according to prior reports.
To review of the past 48 hours of Kremlin decision-making which is poised to escalate this war even further, here is the logical course of what just got enacted in the call-up of some 300,000 reservists:
- Conscripts were previously told they won’t be sent to Ukraine to fight because they are stationed/defend inside Russia
- Ukrainian-held territories are now about to vote to join the Russian Federation.
- When these territories join Russian then they are “inside Russia.” They are Russian oblasts and attempts to defend (formerly) Ukrainian territory would then mark an invasion of Russian territory supported by NATO equipment.
- Thus Medvedev’s warning of ‘willingness’ to use nukes covers these territories inside Ukraine.
Putin’s emphasis of this is “not a bluff” notwithstanding, some analysts say this is all about posturing in order to scare NATO away from escalation…
“I think it signals that he wants people to think he would risk nuclear war,” Phillips O’Brien, a professor of strategic studies at the University of St. Andrews in Scotland. “I don’t think it means he is any more likely to do it than he was yesterday.”
“If he says that any attack on soil that he calls Russia is going to be a nuclear tripwire, Ukraine’s already broken that in Crimea,” O’Brien added in comments given to NBC. Yet Washington says it is taking this nuclear rhetoric seriously.
As for the White House, President Biden in his Wednesday UN General Assembly speech in New York called out Putin’s “overt, reckless and irresponsible” nuclear threats, warning that such wars should “never be fought” and that Russia’s actions should make everyone’s “blood run cold”. He renewed his warning of “a nuclear war cannot be won” – saying the US does “not seek a cold war”.
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“Weapons based on new principles” Any TBP followers care to define??
New ICBM Sarmat, hypersonic glider, nuclear-powered cruise missle, and Posideon big nuke torpedo. In addition to Jim in the Valley’s hypersonic missiles.
To fight Uncle Schlomo , they gonna’ need F-16s, bruh
I believe he speaks of hypersonics.
Which have a destructive capability and similiar energy release with out that messy radiation……
It is crazy and insanity that we are even involved with Ukraine, which is a constructed “country” that is completely corrupt. The issue is that it is never smart to corner a sociopath like Putin,. I neither like nor dislike Russia and I’m tired of the continued propaganda of Russia is evil… when it is a sovereign country like any other with good and bad people. We are being pushed towards a conflagration in an active WWIII conflict when we should be avoiding this at all costs. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know that a hot and direct conflict with Russia would bring it directly onto the home front.
We keep thinking that just because we have avoided an active war with a foreign power in the lower 48 during modern times… it won’t happen. Push a country and its people for so long, they eventually see no reason not to reverse the direction of the ass kicking. It is way too easy for the wrong buttons to be pushed with today’s destructive power to end the world and I don’t trust anyone with that power for it will bring nothing but pain and agony for all of us.
Sensible post Prepared. The downvote is probably due to stating Putin is a sociopath. Most people here, including me, think Putin is the rare rational actor on the world stage.
The Donbass is less than 500 miles from Moscow and more than 5,000 from the US.
I rest my case.
Have you heard about how Pelosi recently landed in Armenia to convince them to stop relying on Russia for protection (the CSTO) and start leaning on America for protection.
If the Armenians are stupid enuf to fall into that trap then they will deserve what they get. It was Russia that protected that country and Georgia thru history. Both are surrounded by hostile Muslim nations with axes they have been grinding for centuries.
Don’t these arseholes look at a map.
Based on the track record up to until now the folks running the show in that region are going to fuck around and find out that geography can be a bitch!
FFS! Armenia should have said thanks but no thanks to a Pelosi visit. They should have told that cunt to stay home, mind her own business, and find another wringer to put her tits in.
Georgia and Armenia should be playing nice with ole Vlad. Them folks are no too smart, especially the Georgians. But for whatever reason they’d rather have their bones picked by Eagles flying in from the sky than just sleep with the bear on porch and put up with the fleas.
When helicopters take off in Yerevan and Tiblisi from the US Embassies what in the fuck are they gonna do when people from Turkey to Dagestan come calling?
Rest in peace.
From a telegram channel, machine-translated:
I wonder if everyone understands the main reason for the ongoing Third World War? (I’m a fiction writer, I can use metaphors and hyperbole if you want to find fault 🙂
The first level of understanding is the conflict between Russia and Ukraine.
The second level of understanding is the Civil War on the territory of the collapsed Russian Empire (in its Soviet incarnation) – it’s not for nothing, if you notice, that the former countries of the socialist bloc and (or) parts of the Russian Empire are showing the greatest activity in Europe.
The third level of understanding is the confrontation of the Euro-Atlantic Union with Russia, which is trying to revive and defend its positions.
The fourth level of understanding is the transition of economic and social problems in the world to the level when a global conflict is required for a “reset”.
The fifth level of understanding is the destruction of the European economy and the isolation of Russia in order to slow down China and the whole of Asia in order to continue to exist… well, let’s call it conditionally like this: “the English-speaking world”.
Is anyone ready to name the sixth one? I can see him. I even assume the seventh, but I will hardly name the seventh. But I will voice the sixth one if someone guesses in the comments.
P.S. Well, there are guesses, yeah.
Of course, the sixth level is a global policy to reduce the number of people on planet Earth.
In principle, at first they tried to implement it humanely, by means of a “soft landing”:
LGBT
propaganda childfree propaganda
feminism + “we had sex, but after a couple of days I decided that he raped me” – you know, now in some countries sex, especially without protection, except for mutual notarized consent 🙂
going into virtuality – yes, children will not be born from virtual sex either
environmental the agenda (“you can’t breed uncontrollably, you gave birth to one – well, okay, but better get a cat”)
and much, much more
It didn’t work out, they’re breeding anyway.
Covid + the anti-vaxxer movement (funny as it may seem, but I’m sure that both processes were started by the same puppeteers)
Well, as a result, it came to a military conflict with a severe economic crisis all over the world, direct population losses + indirect “it’s scary to have children in such a world.” And indirect ones, of course, are much more important than direct ones. And so everything is according to the classics – “a new world will be built at the expense of Russia and against Russia.”
Then, as an option, some very amazing covid mutation 🙂 leading to mass infertility. Most likely in women, because one fertile man out of a hundred will already be able to spoil all plans. Moreover, there will be a catastrophic shortage of resources for vaccines for Asia-Africa-South America for many years.
Local use of WMD or comparable consequences of man-made disasters for injection? Perhaps.
An economic super-crisis? Well yes…
But from what fright somewhere suddenly decided that there were too many people – there are a lot of options here. This is all the seventh level, but I won’t guess here, there is no data. (One thing I will say – the Earth in general does not care about a certain number of billions of primates scurrying on its surface. The environmental problem can be handled differently…
…Why are you straining? I’m kidding, I’m kidding! Fantasizing! I’m a science fiction writer! I’m thinking about the plot of a new book, so I’m scaring you. This is complete nonsense, of course, complete nonsense! There is no “world government”, population reduction plans, the world in general is wonderful and correct, Coca-Cola is good for health.
Sergei Lukyanenko
(Russian science fiction and fantasy author, writing in Russian. His works often feature intense action-packed plots, interwoven with the moral dilemma of keeping one’s humanity while being strong.)
m, Thank you; I rather enjoyed that. Only wish it were fiction.
“…Is anyone ready to name the sixth one? I can see him. I even assume the seventh, but I will hardly name the seventh. But I will voice the sixth one if someone guesses…”
This reminds me of something I heard somewhere:
….even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition…
Could be nothing!!!
Or…
The false messiah and then the anti Christ ?
Are one and the same.
The eighth king is also the seventh. As in, he was in power, left office (for some reason) and then was given authority to return to power.
Something should be strangely familiar about that to all of us.
When he comes back, buckle the hell up.
I think Obama could take the reins of power at the 2 year point, claiming it is NOT a 3rd term.
Game over then.
What difference, at this point, does it make.
You’re the only one around here who gets that quote right, m.
Something tells me it’ll be inscribed for her as an epitaph. If, that is, they even bother to bury her carcass and mark the occasion with stone.
I once dabbled in scene and sequence. Who will become the champion?
I don’t think Puttie is referring to using nukes in the Ukraine. That would be like FJB threatening to use them on Florida or Texas, though that wouldn’t surprise me. He is talking about NATO and it’s meddling idiots.
So Putin would conquer a radioactive wasteland where the prevailing winds carry the fallout deep into Russia? He couldn’t be that stupid or desperate enough to claim a Pyrrhic victory. Could he?
I think the winds there go West.
When the Chernobyl plant blew up it was Scandinavia and Europe that got hit hard, IIRC.
He may be referring to DC, London, Brussels, and/or Zurich. We are too stupid to realize that nothing is off the table these days.
You have to warm up to these things. Vladimir Vladimirovich would never start with the Main Event!!!
First low yield battlefield nukes in Ukraine. Then NATO gets a chance to respond. Then Putin gets to go again, but a little bigger with each turn, etc. etc.
Remember, the idea isn’t just to vaporize everyone in the Northern Hemisphere. It is to terrorize, torture and torment the most amount of people on earth for the greatest amount of time possible BEFORE you kill them.
You’re not thinking diabolically enough!!!
Low T abounds. Use them or lose them.
What I find funny is that Medvedev used to be the moderate. Once he was the pointy end of the Atlantist element in the Russian establishment. Nowadays he is the bad cop in the relationship with the West.
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There go the November midterms.
I think people forget about 4 years ago, Russia has a weapon that can EMP a localized target like a ship. They did it to a destroyer in the Black Sea I think. Of course the story was buried, but I think to bury this whole COVID thing they are willing to push it. These psychopathic fucks. They will all burn in Hell.
Donald Cook.
https://www.voltairenet.org/article185860.html
Khibiny
The web has been scrubbed of most reports and any western media says the “Russians shut the ship down” is just a myth.
What the MSM does not explain is why the Donald Cook ran away as fast as possible after the incident.
Several reports at the time confirmed that this incident did happen and the ship AGEIS system was entirely deactivated. The US may have studied and come up with a defense, but I doubt it. I doubt they even know what happened at all.
Going to be short battles if the Russians have a universal remote to “turn off” US hardware.
Yep. ‘Khibini’ the Russian name for EMP weapons like the airburst SU-24 missile that fried the Donald Cook instantly.
BTW there is no realistic defense against that. The trillions in funding and years of hardening needed to even try in a few spots are not available (ask my old defense policy cohort Peter Pry about that and he will confirm, they did not listen to him in the 1990s when it may have marginally mattered). So the Navy can study it all they want to, the laws of physics won’t change.
Remember that anyone -not just Russia – with a rocket and a small nuke can airburst it 25 miles or so above Europe or the US and create an EMP effect that turns the whole region into the 18th century instantly. No internet. No electricity. No cars. A few of those will likely be burst over the US and/or Europe as a prelude to a disarming nuke strike. Even without the nuke strike, the EMP will kill most citizens anyway as “MadMax Beyond Thunderdome” conditions kill virtually everyone in a few months via starvation, disease and rabid mobs.
You can try, evil Putler , but Uncle Schlomo got this.
When she have that baby, she coming for you Putler.
And folks that is why women should not be in front line units. Letting them hump a desk is a better return on investment.
Put ’em all on the front line… their subsequent capture will do more to demoralize and defeat Evil Putler than any secret weapon Clown World Faggot has in their arsenal.
Guess Biden showed off all those maternity combat uniforms for nothing.
I got this.
1) Israel
2) BlackRock
3) Federal Reserve
Clown World Faggot is real.
Vote harder…
He’s incogfago, bruh. The spirit of Clown World Faggot lives in them all. Torquemada did nothing wrong.
“…Torquemada did nothing wrong…”
Bollox.
He never finished what he started!!!
(Same as Joe McCarthy.)
General Pinochet’ was right.
Are you fcking kidding me?
The [Schwab-Soros-NATO-Biden-Romney-CIA (with its main mouthpiece Hannity)] Nazi Alliance has insisted on provoking WW III against Russia – using the UKR – for decades. The Nazi-style monopolies (SorosNGOs,Pfizer, Google, FB, Apple and Blackwater/Academi thugs under Erik Prince etc] in partnership with (but not owned by) the deep state have worked hand-in-glove with their political deep state puppets to fund Azov Battalion dominance in the UKR.
The US-Soros-Schwab-McCain-Romney Nazis staged a Nazi coup in UKR in 2013 (with Hannity cheering them on) and have been murdering Russian-speaking UKR citizens in violation of the Minsk agreements since then. They built bioweapons centers in UKR to make viruses targeting Caucasions (with Hunter Biden and Romney and Kerry’s kids [and staffers like Nazi Cofer Black] grafting off of it). The 4th Reich Nazi Alliance has openly declared plans to put UKR in NATO and put nukes in the UKR right on Russia’s border (how did we like that when Khrushchev did it to us in Cuba?).
Once these Russian-speaking UKR citizens vote to free themselves from the US-Soros-Hannity-CNN-CIA Nazi dictatorship, the US will continue to attack them with Hellfire missiles and other provocations.
So, Putin will defend Russians from the US Nazi Alliance by going nuclear because that is the ONLY level of combat he can win against the globalist Nazis. And Nazi spokesmen Hannity and Blitzer and McConnell and Biden will shout that WWIII (that the Nazis demanded) is “Putin’s fault'”
And every FOX CNN ABC CBS NBC watching idiot will suck Hitler knob and worship the globalist 4th Reich.
It has come full circle – Hitler SS-employee Soros served the Nazis in 1944 – and Russia was the main enemy. Now, Soros has all of Europe and America (especially retards watching Hannity on FOX) serving New 4th Reich Fuhrer Schwab against Russia all over again. And the globalist Nazis will once again get their ass kicked by Russia just as their founding father Hitler did in WW II.
Russian RX 28 ICBMs are light years better than the 50 year old Minuteman II and III shit of the US. With fully evasive Hypersonic booster capability and 10-16 MIRVs (depending on the payload and target choices) those missiles will effectively disarm the US and Europe (many of the targets will be vaporized in 4-7 minutes with sea-based depressed trajectory shots). [And BTW – the US scrapped “launch-on-warning” as official military doctrine in the Clinton era so it will be a turkey shoot).
And “we” will deserve what “we” insisted on getting.
It sucks to be stuck behind the Nazi lines. I will suffer for their sins.
It is not too much to ask that Nazi c*nt Hannity is with me at ground zero for an RX28 MIRV sent right up his evil ass.
If Putin is pushed, then any of us left alive in the aftermath will have only bark and grass to subsist on.
Choose wisely.
And bugz. Don’t forget ze bugz.
As someone famous once said: “Ze bugs vill alvays be viss you.”
Nuclear war in that theater? Please.
Much more likely between 2 of the original nuclear powers. india/pakistan. COMPLETELY logical. That EITHER Would have nuclear weapons. Old School prolly ta boot.
Inevitably, someone will take a shit and wipe their ass on the wrong side o’ the Kashmir. Karakoram Range. Then the shit will fly.