The popular commentator said he’d cut off energy supplies to the EU if he were the president of Russia FILE PHOTO. Jordan Peterson in Cambridge. © Chris Williamson / Getty Images
Popular conservative political commentator Jordan Peterson has tried to get into Russian President Vladimir Putin’s head and predict how Russia’s conflict with the West in Ukraine will unfold. Peterson said that if he were the Russian president he would leave the EU without energy supplies in the winter.
“I know what I’d do in his shoes,” he said on the Piers Morgan Uncensored show on Thursday. “I’d wait till the first cold snap and shut off the taps.”
Peterson was referring to supplies of Russian natural gas to EU nations. He argued that Moscow indirectly warned that a full shutdown would happen when Russian gas giant Gazprom started curtailing deliveries through the Nord Stream pipeline to Germany, citing maintenance issues.
The political commentator declined to endorse a notion popular in the West that Putin resembles Adolf Hitler or Josef Stalin in his thinking, calling the claim “foolish” and not backed by any actual evidence.
Putin “is a lot more like everybody else than anyone thinks,” Peterson argued. He added that “there is a bit of Hitler and Stalin in everyone,” before going into an explanation of how accepting government-imposed lies under pressure was part of human nature.
“The totalitarian state is actually the grip of the lie. And people would certainly go along with that. We’ve seen this emerge with [the] cancel culture. It’s like ‘Lie! Or else!’,” he said.
He mocked the idea that Ukraine and its Western backers could “win” against Russia as “naïve.”
“I just don’t understand that. What do you mean we are going to win? What are we going to win exactly?” he demanded.
The Russian government, Peterson believes, would consider simply devastating Ukraine an acceptable outcome, if no better alternative can be achieved. And the West would not be able to stop it due to Russia’s role as a global supplier of energy, he argued.
“We can’t win against Vladimir Putin in any way because you cannot win against someone you cannot say ‘no’ to. Period. And we can’t say ‘no’ to Putin because we sold our soul for his oil and gas,” he said.
“And we did that to elevate our moral stature in relation to ‘saving the planet.’ And here we are, facing a very dire winter, hoisted on the petard of our very own foolishness and moral presumption,” he added.
Peterson was referring to the concern that humanity was facing an existential threat due to climate change, a threat that he believes to be exaggerated. The unintended consequences of the West’s conflict with Russia are a far more imminent and real threat to humans, he pointed out, as “the World Bank already estimated that we’ve put 350 million people into what they call ‘food insecurity’.”
“But the planet has too many people on it anyway, so, you know… It’s just poor people,” he added.
Peterson is a Canadian psychology professor who rose to international prominence over his commentaries on various contemporary issues, such as transgender acceptance policies in the West, the role of Christianity in cultures originating in Europe, and geopolitical conflicts. His YouTube channel has over 5.5 million subscribers. (RT)
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Hey, I had just watched this before you posted it here.
Sad story, Peterson also seems to have fallen for some of the [Western] propaganda bullshit now. And he is projecting some of that onto Putin.
What Judas Peterstein would actually do is lead people down a blind alley to their deaths, while he hops out at the last second.
No he’s not:
Yes, he has [fallen for Western bullshit]:
57 seconds in “I think what Putin has done is unconscionable”
I doubt Peterson will circle back to mentioning the preceding 8 years of shelling the Donbass somewhere later in his vid…
Watch the video before you critique it.
Wow, Frederick Kagan brainwashed him [JBP]. Recommended to him by “conservative” friends, LOL.
(I had facepalmed when I saw JBP talked to Kagan some months ago on his YT channel, and carefully avoided watching that bullshit.)
2:26 “imperial expansionism” [of Putin]… hey, now we’re only missing the Domino theory [for Europe]!
2:55 “to fortify his [Putin’s] pretensions to empire and desire for an unlimited extension of personal power”
3:41 “one of the primary justifications for a war perhaps is that we have something to gain” – this is caricature-like; the primary justification of war is -or should be- we have something worth defending!
5:32 “no more trustworthy to Russian eyes” – WHY?
6:18 “Russia would rather see Ukraine destroyed, razed to the ground, than comfortably ensconced in the western sphere of influence” – 100% pure bullshit. Russia/Putin states several times they’d have no problem with a (militarily neutral) Ukraine joining the EU.
6:43 comparing pre-2014 Yanukovych to years later installed Zelinski – what’s the point here??
7:12 “the fact that the ukrainian-speaking supported government has placed increasingly draconian restrictions on the language rights of the russian speakers in the northwest” To my understanding the language rights restrictions were imposed across all of Ukraine evenly, i.e. including the majority Russian speaking southeast.
8:09 “almost half of the Russian fossil fuels exported make their way to Europe” – NO, had made their way to Europe. That is over. And not by Russian decision, one might point out.
8:16 Simpsons come to mind: ‘Say it, say it! TRUMP WAS RIGHT… Woohooo!’
8:21 “the two of those [pipelines] that serve the european market” Last I heard there are five pipelines in existence that serve the European market
8:55 “has caused no shortage of conflict” – wow, you really need to stretch the facts close to the breaking point, to find support for such a statement. And those conflicts were actually contractual/monetary, is the nicely covered up distinction.
9:00 ” constant russian interference in belarus” – LOL, we’re so lucky there never was the slightest Western interference in Belarus!!
9:07 “a puppet state of its larger partner” – ROFL, now list us some puppet states of the US!!
9:48 Utter bullshite. The Azerbaijan-Turkey pipeline going through Georgia runs way south of South Ossetia, which Russia “invaded” after incursions by Georgia – ask the UN.
11:05 “It is also the case that ukraine has immense and relatively recently discovered circa 2010 petrol resources of its own particularly around the caspian sea” – wait, is all this a satire? Ukraine has no coastline with the Caspian Sea.
12:00 “The 2014 pro-western revolution in ukraine toppling what was then the pro-russian government. The consequent invasion of crimea placed a substantial proportion of the new ukraine petrol reserves in russian hands. the later invasion of the donbass region in the aforementioned northeast punitively to support pro-russian separatists there was perhaps motivated by analogous reasons” Hmm. JBP found a revolution he likes! Crimea was not just annexed(-by-referendum) but even first invaded! “Punitively”… wtf does that word signify in that context?
OK, tentative first impression:
That is a man talking with a gun to his head, trying to drop hints of such.
I can’t take more right now, will look deeper into it some other time.
(Well now we’re only left to wait for JBP to have a nice fireside chat with Victoria Nuland, I guess.)
16:38 “[Solzhenitsyn] suggested like Dostoevsky that it would be necessary for the Russians to return to the path of incremental organic development that had been manifesting itself prior to the revolutionary disruptions of the communist catastrophe; that meant a return to orthodox belief” – the first reasonable thought, outside of the ordinary.
18:25 “[Putin] also collaborates in his thinking with a genuine philosopher Alexander Dugan” – as the Western MSM told me so!
18:57 “[Putin] is driven by economic and political necessity to trade with us and us with him so that Russia can be supplied by much needed hard western currency” 🤣 – stop it, you’re killing me!
19:16 “but Putin constantly tells his people that he sees us falling far too far under the sway of ideas very similar to those that produced the revolutionary frenzy of the communist movement” – We in the West are way past the ‘producing’ point, we’re already in the middle of the ‘frenzy.’
19:40 “willing to use the story of our [Western] degeneration” ROFL, and without that story Putin would have no argument at all, I suppose??
21:02 OK, I really don’t give a single fuck anymore, about some “supreme incompetence court” candidate.
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31:36 We need to save the Enlightenment [from the culture wars]!!1! {/facepalm}
33:58 “[Russia:] Those westerners are so out of their mind it will push the world to the brink of a nuclear war and potentially beyond to keep them off our doorstep because we’ve been there before and we’re not going back. And that is exactly what Putin tells his people, and they believe it. And -in some sense- therefore it doesn’t even matter if Putin believes it, although i believe he does, along with whatever else he might believe” – Confusing first sentence. The word ‘it’ seems ambiguous if he attaches all/most possible danger [of nuclear war] to Russia or the West or both.
34:40 “The Russians believe that they have a moral duty and that they have the highest moral duty to oppose the degenerate ideas -philosophy, theology- of the west and there’s something about that, that is not wrong” – OK, so probably no gun to his head. But to me it implies JBP feels so married to Canada and/or the West he is going to go under with them instead of clearly taking sides with Russia, at least vocally.
35:11 “It is not only the Russians who object to the nightmare of compassionate authoritarianism that increasingly possesses the west, all the eastern European countries whose populations groaned under the stalinist burden are watching the resurgence of these demented ideas among their erstwhile enlightened allies with stunned disbelief, Romanians, Estonians, Hungarians, Albanians, all those countries characterized by a traumatic wisdom are extremely unhappy that those who should know better, and who have built their economic strength and base their freedom on ideas that promote equality of opportunity, but denounce enforced equity or equality of outcome, kowtow to the resentful moralistic opportunistic anarchic narcissists of the radical left.” – Even in my wildest dreams I wouldn’t believe such right now, for the Eastern European countries.
36:15 “focusing with single-minded intensity on determining exactly what the Russians would accept as a minimum precondition for peace” – LOL keep determining!!
43:19 “The Chinese communists loom too” – I’m out of shits
That video is from July 10.
(Maybe he is wearing a French crest pin because it’s a few days before Bastille Day?)
Waiting until the first cold snap is too late. Do it now and let them burn up their reserves before the cold comes.
It was over 100 here today. It has been over 100 almost every day since mid-spring. Winter was only marked by being exceptionally wet. We probably live the same latitude as you just one over.
It is 62 and raining in Berlin today, with high temps to be in that area all week.
Not a Peterson fan, but he got something right…
“But the planet has too many people on it anyway”
Sorry abby it’s not too many people. We have both room and land enough to support the, It’s the Jews again. It’s always the damn Jews. Every. Single. Time.
Ok, Flea. But when I have trouble finding a place to live without being bothered by demoralized idiots, then IMO…it’s too many people.
No disagreement there. They won’t listen to me. I told everybody I think is on our side that we aren’t willing to just Kill that many and they can’t be deprogrammed to poison or kids minds later. We just have to Send them at gunpoint to Mauritania to be auctioned off in the slave markets there to the diamond miners. Notch their ears, nose and upper lip so they can’t sneak back in.
I like your plan. 🙂
Of course it would be a reserve aution. A minimun entry offer sufficient to cover the cost of round up, shipping on cattle boats. Notching that many won’t be cheap. If the auctions won’t take them, being an old sailor I know what happens to ships left untended at anchor offshore. Unfortunate, but the hulks make superb food fish habitat for the more edible species. With a captive food source for the first batch in place. What could go wrong.
If you forcibly notch a few of the Kanye (Ye), Snoop-dog types, then all of them would do it.
As to rounding them up, offer a $10.00 ticket to Free Tickets for all major Roundball and Foobah. Plus, free bus ride to processing center, also,serve Popeyes on the bus.
Problem solved.
Right. They would do it in sympathy with Snoop because whitey notched him. White guilt ridden Karens and Kals have their notches even deeper to out virtue signal other race traitors and wigger momas and wigger beta boys.
The European politicians better have their private jets fueled and ready for take-off when winter comes. When businesses and industries start shutting down because they don’t have fuel and citizens begin freezing in their apartments and houses without heat, people will not be blaming Putin. They will look for someone a bit closer to go after.
Pepe Escobar’s latest:
“There’s [now] a very short window of Chinese-coined crisis/opportunity for the collective West, or NATOstan, to negotiate. They won’t. Even as anyone with an IQ over room temperature knows that the only way for the Empire of Chaos/Lies/Plunder to “win” – outside of the cover of The Economist – would be by launching a first-strike flurry of tactical nuclear weapons, which would meet a devastating Russian response.
The Kremlin knows it – President Putin has publicly alluded to it; the Russian General Staff (RGS) knows it; the Chinese know it (and have called, also publicly, for negotiations).
Instead, we have hysterical Russophobia reaching a paroxysm. And from the deer-caught-in-the-headlights vassals, an extra toxic sludge of fear and loathing.”
Read the whole thing at
https://strategic-culture.org/news/2022/09/24/all-the-young-dudes-carry-the-russian-news/
Now also available at unz: https://www.unz.com/pescobar/all-the-young-dudes-carry-the-russian-news/
I believe the war in Ukraine is over.
The Saker hasn’t done a “sitrep” in over two weeks. Andrei posts mostly music … and his choices generally suck. MoA posts non-battle related articles.
This war is starting to fucken bore me.
Bored. No shit. Get it done Vlad.
Has Jordan cleaned his own room yet?
Does frantically searching it for more drugs count?