Stop the Empire’s War on the World

Guest Post by Batiushka

Stop the Empire’s War on the World: From Bob Dylan to Robert Frost

There always have been and always will be clashes and tensions between different civilisations. In the words of an old Bob Dylan song:

The Protestants hate the Catholics,
The Catholics hate the Protestants,
The Muslims hate the Hindus,
The Hindus hate the Muslims,
And everybody hates the Jews.

So sang a Jew, his real name Robert Zimmerman. (Dylan’s father’s grandparents fled to the USA after the 1905 pogrom in Odessa, a city which for the moment is still in the Ukraine) (1).

This brings us to examining the old saying that: ‘Religion is the cause of all wars’. As a priest, I can in a sense agree with that, as also with Marx’s saying that ‘Religion is the opium of the people’. I can agree with them both because, as a priest, I do not hold with religion and I am not religious. Thank God!

Perhaps I should explain to the confused.

Religion has always been a State manipulation, used in order to control populations. If you have ever visited a Protestant church, you will know this. There, to our astonishment, people have to file in and are directed to sit down in regimented rows in certain seats, and are then told to stand up and sit down, while being bombarded with moralising speeches to make them feel guilty and cough up cash. A clearer case of organised mass manipulation can surely not be found. However, in fairness it must be said that States are capable of doing the same with absolute any ‘religion’.

States use religion to divide and create wars. (So, religion is not the cause of all wars, but it is used as a disguise for the cause of all wars). Why? Because if you openly say, ‘we are going to invade you because we are a different ethnic group and we are extremely greedy and vicious and want to steal and plunder your territory and natural resources’, people may well not follow you. But if, like George Bush, you say ‘God told me to invade Iraq’, or, ‘NATO’s role is to bring freedom and democracy’ (and forget to add, ‘even if it means wiping you off the face of the earth’), you will always find some venal journalists, useful idiots and propagandised zombies to believe you and follow you. In other words, States have always used religion as camouflage to justify their base and basest motives. Hence, religion is indeed the opium of the people.

Why am I, a priest, saying this? Primarily because it is true. But also because I have no interest in religion at all, my only interest is faith. Faith comes from spiritual experience, either you have it, or else you don’t. But it is quite different from State-invented ‘religion’, which is used to manipulate the masses.

Now all civilisations are based on faith, on an original spiritual intuition and experience. It is a historic fact. It does not matter if you are Jewish, Animist, Hindu, Zoroastrian, Buddhist, Confucian, Orthodox Christian, Mayan, Muslim, Shintoist, Catholic, Incan, Aztec, Sikh or, most recently, Protestant, your civilisation, and therefore your culture, depends on your faith. A Civilisation that does not have a spiritual basis, faith, is not a Civilisation, it is an Anti-Civilisation. And of that we shall speak later.

For millennia, civilisations have lived side by side. As we have said, they have from time to time spontaneously clashed and clashed violently about ethnic identity, territory and resources. However, Western Civilisation is quite unique.

Western Civilisation, which has basically existed for a thousand years (meaning that it is quite recent in comparative historical terms) is the only one which claims to be unique and which has consistently implemented its supposed infallibility and resulting intolerance on a systematic and institutionalised basis via organised violence throughout its millennial existence.

Thus, we had the First Crusade (1096-1099), which began by massacring and robbing Jews in the Rhineland and then went on to massacre Orthodox Christians and Muslims, shedding blood, which flowed up to their knees in what they claimed to be the ‘holy’ city of Jerusalem. Should we mention the Inquisition or the Spanish and Portuguese atrocities in what we now call Latin America?

Of course, in fairness, we cannot avoid mentioning the Protestant-Catholic European ‘Wars of Religion’ (sic), in which millions died. The Protestant sects also fought with each other, no doubt in order to prove which was the nastiest-minded and most bigoted. The Protestants, not the Catholics, had witch-hunts, in which they burned to death thousands of poor women, old and young. This was a form of social bullying of those who were in some way different. The Protestants went on to massacre the natives of North America and park the survivors in concentration camps, which they elegantly masked under the name of ‘reservations’ and enslave millions of Africans to work in their labour camps, which they called ‘plantations’. After all, ‘Arbeit macht frei’, ‘Work makes you free’. Though not if you are white, which is why you kindly allow non-whites to work for you.

Much of the witch-hunting goes back to the Protestant hatred and fear of women and so its obsession with sex (‘the only sin’), which it directly inherited from Papacy-imposed obligatory clerical celibacy in eleventh- and twelfth-century Western Europe. Today the old Puritanism of persecuting women has been transformed into the ‘green’ movement. Here, instead of abstention from sexual uncleanness, we now have the equally fanatical abstention from material uncleanness, sexual purity is replaced by environmental purity – ‘green is clean’, the only sin is not recycling. This is just the new Puritanism of such as the clearly clinically depressed and neurotic Greta ‘Funberg’. (What a laugh she is; it must be the dark Swedish nights). However, the ultimate deviation is the legitimisation of homosexuality: what could be more woman-hating than sodomy?

The great difference between the West and all other civilisations is its unique intolerance because it is convinced that it is infallible. (Papal infallibility may have been dogmatised only in the nineteenth century, but it had already been proclaimed by Hildebrand/Gregory VII in the eleventh century). The West has to impose.

Conversely, President Putin accepts all, as did the USSR, as did the Russian Tsars. Listen again to two parts of his speech on 30 September this year:

‘What, if not racism, is the West’s dogmatic conviction that its civilisation and neoliberal culture is an indisputable model for the entire world to follow? ‘You’re either with us or against us’…. One of the reasons for centuries-old Russophobia, the Western elites’ unconcealed animosity toward Russia, is precisely the fact that we did not allow them to rob us during the age of colonial conquests and we forced the Europeans to trade with us on mutually beneficial terms. This was achieved by creating a strong centralised State in Russia, which grew and got stronger on the basis of the great moral values of Orthodox Christianity, Islam, Judaism and Buddhism, as well as Russian culture and the Russian world that were open to all’.

Let other civilisations have other values. But if we find homosexuality unnatural and abnormal, leave us alone. Those are our values. We let you do what you woke want in your countries, therefore stop imposing it on us. The Ukraine, apart from the recently Hapsburgised and Polonised far west, is not part of the Western world. Stop treating it as if it were part of your world. If Catholic countries like Poland and Slovakia want to join you in your promotion of sodomy, we won’t stop them. If Catholic countries like Hungary don’t agree with you, then let them join us. We have nothing against traditional Catholics. We don’t meddle – unlike you.

This unique intolerance of Western ‘Civilisation’ – if that is what it is – reminds us of a poem written before the new great fall of the West in 1914, by an American poet, perhaps the greatest American poet, Robert Frost. In ‘Mending Wall’ (2) there comes that famous line: ‘Good fences make good neighbours’.

The fact is that a fault line runs through Europe. That fault line took more or less definitive shape in the eleventh century. It is a thousand years old. It is the fault line that separates the Catholic world (and therefore also the Protestant world – the two things are the two sides of the same coin) from the Orthodox Christian world. It separates Finland, most of the Baltics, most of Poland, the far west corner of the Ukraine, most of Slovakia, perhaps Hungary and certainly Croatia from the rest of Eurasia. Beyond the east and south of that line lies the rest of the world, the Non-Western world, whose faiths, despite their diversity, in many ways have far more in common with one another than with the LGBT Anti-Civilisation of the Western world. Now the New England poet, Robert Frost, goes on to write in his poem:

Before I built a wall I’d ask to know
What I was walling in or walling out.

Well, in answer to Robert Frost, once all of the Ukraine is liberated, we will be fencing you off, so as to remain good neighbours, we will be walling out Woke Western Anti-Civilisation. As we said above, a Civilisation that does not have a spiritual basis, faith, is not a Civilisation, it is an Anti-Civilisation, and that is what ‘Western Civilisation’ has step by step become. You can keep it. We take not the slightest pleasure in seeing its degeneration, we are shocked and distressed by it and feel compassion for all its victims. Stop the Empire’s War on Russia, says the Saker, but we would say: Stop the Empire’s War on the World.

Notes:

1. We should perhaps mention here that no pogroms ever took place in Russia, but only in what is now Lithuania, Poland, Moldova and the western Ukraine. (Before 1942 Odessa was essentially a Jewish city). The pogroms were imports from the neighbouring West, where violent pogroms also took place in the nineteenth century, especially in German-speaking countries. The total number of victims over some twenty years in what were basically race riots between poor people and rich Jews (with plenty of poor people of all nationalities getting caught inbetween), sometimes started by Jews, sometimes by the other side, totalled about the same number as the Germans murdered on one average day during the Second World War. Overall, more Non-Jews died than Jews during the pogrom race riots in the Russian Empire. Of course, this is never mentioned in the West. Perhaps because it was the West, and not Russia, which produced Jew-murdering Nazism? And why were there so many Jews living in the Russian Empire in any case? Because they had been expelled in the Middle Ages from racist Western Europe. Just a point of fact.

2. https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/44266/mending-wall

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19 Comments
Walt
Walt
December 3, 2022 7:21 am

What a load of Batiushka.

P.S.
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Obbledy
Obbledy
December 3, 2022 8:14 am

Good points,even if Jesus was/is a construct,what is wrong about His message?
My understanding(protestant raised unitarian)
Is it’s a PERCIEVED intolerance…..we ask you do(or don’t do) these certain things for YOU!
YOU are the one who recieves,when you act in POSITIVE ways!I remember when we all understood we were ALL IMPERFECT and practiced what I call “true tolerance”.
I don’t want to MAKE anybody DO anything!
I want you to be able to discern for your self!
We hold these truths to be self-evident!
Or we used to anyway!….

Anonymous
Anonymous
December 3, 2022 8:27 am

It is QUITE natural for Satan to utilize…

Revelation 2:9 “I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and [I know] the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but [are] the synagogue of Satan.”

Revelation 3:9 “Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.”

Abraham was named differently, previously.

There is ALWAYS a remnant, and WILL BE ’til It’s DONE.

Gotta say, Reading the Bible IS fascinating. HARD to interpret, KJV my go to.

Plenty of resources.

That ‘Funny Feeling’ ALL Along? I now recognize, AND accept as the Holy Spirit.

The COMPLETE rejection/denial of?

The ONLY Unpardonable Sin.

It’s IN Earth, as it is IN heaven.

The ‘Dirt’, into which the breath of life was Breathed.

flash
flash
December 3, 2022 8:55 am

First off, religion is not the cause of all, even most war. This is a fallacy that’s been disproven again, and again.

The Myth that Religion is the #1 Cause of War

The 1rst Crusade began with stopping the Turks from totally destroying the remnant of Byzantium Empire and murdering and enslaving hundreds of thousand of Christian ..had nothing to do with Jews, until it was discovered that Jews were aiding and abetting Muslims against Christians, which also led them to be kicked out of Spain in 1492.

If you want to get a inkling of how Christians were treated by invading Mohammedans in 15th century Spain and why Queen Isabella kicked out the Jews, read the book linked below.

Isabella of Spain
William Thomas Walsh

https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=D981C1329EC86A7E9BAE05E65AE3028B

Also the Inquisition was a perfectly acceptable and legal attempt at weeding heretics undermining the teaching of Christ from the Church body. Allowing heretics to insert unbiblical teachings into Christian dogma is how we came to have, instead of one unified faith, 22,000 feuding denomination. A totally splintered faith on serves Satan.
Torquemada did nothing wrong.

Covered in great details here:

Characters of the Inquisition
William Thomas Walsh

https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=E3D1B6879E718DCCD73714297809A86F

It seems too that this so called priest, whilst painting Russia as pure as the driven snow, overlooked one small detail of why the Ukrainians embraced their Nazi liberators. I’m not surprised this fag doesn’t mention the Holomodor, how many were murdered or who were the main culprits.

Stalin’s Jews
We mustn’t forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

And lastly, this jackass identifies as a Priest, yet denies one important aspect of stable faith based culture , that there is only one Christ and all the rest were corrupt mockeries and have been destroyed by the Most High.

John 14:6

Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Psalm 82

1God stands in the congregation of [a]the mighty;
He judges among the [b]gods.
2How long will you judge unjustly,
And show partiality to the wicked? Selah
3[c]Defend the poor and fatherless;
Do justice to the afflicted and needy.
4Deliver the poor and needy;
Free them from the hand of the wicked.

5They do not know, nor do they understand;
They walk about in darkness;
All the foundations of the earth are [d]unstable.

6I said, “You are [e]gods,
And all of you are children of the Most High.
7But you shall die like men,
And fall like one of the princes.”

8Arise, O God, judge the earth;
For You shall inherit all nations.

flash
flash
December 3, 2022 9:41 am

It’s just a ride…

flash
flash
December 3, 2022 9:41 am

It’s just a ride..

Guest
Guest
December 3, 2022 9:42 am

Sort of an old millennium type writing and ignores many things (especially historical) have come into the light.

But recently I’ve noticed how EVERYONE, it seems, calls for unity. Both sides. Haven’t they noticed unity can equal conformity and that seems to be a major factor in our debacle? As the ‘experts’ say, the mass.
Don’t be unified with any mass- a right mass is the same ultimately as a left mass. They are both going to the same place.
These catchwords are propaganda tools- like ‘community’. What words aren’t being used? Independent is one.
There are actual communities people are starting up and while they seem sort of good, I wonder.

I was in our local banklett about a year or so ago and was talking to the young woman at customer service. She seemed to want to talk about the plandemic. And in reply to something I said she said, that seems so divisive. I said, well you are literally divided from me by that little piece of plexiglass that doesn’t even stop viruses.
In reality this place wasn’t too bad but had to adhere to directives from Missoula in an area that wasn’t very Covidy comparatively.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
December 3, 2022 10:17 am

IMO, there are 3 causes of war…
1. Race
2. Religion
3. Resources

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  Glock-N-Load
December 3, 2022 11:02 am

Resources, being both material and human. I am not sure that wars were practised in hunter/gatherer groups which were mainly familially connected. In that time they had little to own or lose. Only when agriculture came about, around 7,000BC I understand, did the need for defence arise and of course the provision of slaves.

I believe that all conflicts have their root in FEAR. Fear of life itself, which is risky, and we must have food and water on a regular basis. If we even suspect a shortage of these things people lose it big-time, fearing not getting what they want and fear of losing what they already have.

For me this is the only possible reason oligarchs and the like have an insatiable need to own as much as possible, even if they can’t use it – even to the extent of owning the planet, which is what they are about today, because they think they have the tech now, and which was never possible before in the whole of history.

Ask not for whom the bell tolls, I tolls for thee.

Das Arschloch
Das Arschloch
  Austrian Peter
December 4, 2022 4:05 am

My tomatoes are currently plotting to take over the cucumber patch. They don’t appear religious to me and the last one I ate did not look particularly scared either. So I think we can rule out religion and fear as a cause of war. There must be something else.

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  Das Arschloch
December 4, 2022 5:36 am

But you are eating them ALIVE, DA! You might not hear their distress but I feel the calls from my plants especially when they need watering.

I am sure there is something else and it might be to do with coveting another’s possessions and the other sundry human seven deadly sins. But who am I to judge?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Glock-N-Load
December 3, 2022 3:07 pm

Four.

MIC profits.

kfg
kfg
December 3, 2022 12:07 pm

“So sang a Jew . . .”

Well, you got that part right at least. Your search term for today is “national brotherhood week lyrics”.

Then get down on your knees, fiddle with your rosaries, bow your head in great respect and genuflect, genuflect, genuflect.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
December 3, 2022 12:33 pm

“Faith comes from spiritual experience, either you have it, or else you don’t.”

Don’t know what this guy is priesting, but no, faith does not come from spiritual “experience”. Experiences are not trustworthy. Experiences can be false and misleading.

Romans 10:17 KJB… “So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”

Mushroom Cloud
Mushroom Cloud
December 3, 2022 12:46 pm

Well not too long ago Bathhouse Barry O gave Dylan a lifetime achievement award for his mastery of nibbling on de-scnozzled vinky so I can’t take this pillow biter too seriously. Maybe we should look for inspiration from artists that weren’t created by and aren’t working for the Borg?

kfg
kfg
  Mushroom Cloud
December 3, 2022 2:34 pm

The author of the article is in error. The song was written by Tom Lehrer.

Of course he worked for Harvard, MIT, Wellesley, UC Santa Cruz and with David Frost on NBC.

Mushroom Cloud
Mushroom Cloud
  kfg
December 3, 2022 3:33 pm

Fair enough. I’m too young to have been around for most of Dylan’s work and my parents listened mostly to 80’s debauchery tunes, so I am no expect on “classic” songwriters.

In my brief research of Dylan, I quickly got the feeling that he was another spoiled little kid like Marx who preached about sharing from behind the golden walls of his palace.

Modern day dancing monkeys that are outright agents of the Borg are fairly easy to spot, such as Perry, MnM, Garth Brooks, Hanks, De Niro, and so on. They get all the attention, opportunity, and accolades despite offering nothing more, and often less than their peers. I suspect it wasn’t that much different a few decades ago, although getting boomers to admit that their heroes were just mindless drones might be difficult.

Some olds guys a while ago were on here discussing Sinatra and how nobody becomes famous without help. What I read didn’t hit me particularly hard, but it stuck with me and more importantly began planting seeds of doubt.

My kids are aware at a young age that their heroes (mainly Disney princesses, for now) are deceiving tools used by our evil pedolords, and will be much less susceptible to the brainwashing that worked on my parent’s generation, and sadly my generation as well.

Well done TBP! Hearts and minds!

kfg
kfg
  Mushroom Cloud
December 3, 2022 3:56 pm

Dylan was always a mercenary.

Tom Lehrer was always a mathematician. He just happened to also have one of the greatest talents for satirical songwriting the world has ever seen.

Search his name on YouTube. I don’t think you’ll regret it.

Have you seen the movie Speed?
When Dennis Hopper is holding Sandra Bullock hostage he says “Be prepared, that’s the Boy Scout’s marching song.”

That’s the opening line of a Tom Lehrer song about the Boy Scouts.

Anonymous
Anonymous
December 3, 2022 2:55 pm

No religious wars in known history until the rise of middle east scum religions.