By late last year, US officials as well as most reports emerging in international media estimated that in total 200,000 Russian and Ukrainian troops had been killed since the start of the Ukraine invasion. In November and December, Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff had offered up to that point the highest estimate thus far of 200,000 from both sides, also saying 40,000 civilians had been killed. There was reason even at that time to doubt this highest-end estimate, especially when compared to reports compiled by other international monitors.
But The New York Times has issued a report this week citing Western officials who now say that close to 200,000 troops have been killed on the Russian side alone.
This far surpasses even recent estimates by the Ukrainian government. In December, Kiev claimed that 90,000 Russian troops had died compared to its own losses of 13,000 – according to Ukraine’s General Staff.
But the fresh Thursday NYT report asserts the following:
The number of Russian troops killed and wounded in Ukraine is approaching 200,000, a stark symbol of just how badly President Vladimir V. Putin’s invasion has gone, according to American and other Western officials.
Though in the next line the Times admits casualties from the war “are notoriously difficult to estimate” – the report relies in part for its very high tally on information coming out of the Soledar and Bakhmut offensives, which have been costly for both sides.
“The figures for Ukraine and Russia are estimates based on satellite imagery, communication intercepts, social media and on-the-ground media reports, as well as official reporting from both governments,” the newspaper added.
At the same time, the Ukrainian side is also believed to be losing hundreds daily as it tries to defend Bakhmut. By many accounts, the Russians have the upper-hand and have nearly encircled the strategic city in Donetsk region.
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Ukraine SitRep:
U.S.-Russia Talks, Bakhmut Retreat, Laughable Casualty Numbershttps://t.co/I6zLGhuUF7
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Bakhmut front – Number of Ukrainian brigades
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“Ukraine’s casualty figures are also difficult to ascertain, given Kyiv’s reluctance to disclose its own wartime losses. But in Bakhmut, hundreds of Ukrainian troops have been wounded and killed daily at times as well, officials said,” the Times notes.
And yet 200,000 on the Russian side alone, as NYT claims, is a huge jump from Milley’s own estimate of 100,000 given late last year, making it highly dubious. Again, this also makes recent estimates from the Ukrainian government look conservative by comparison.
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NYT is looking even more like a propaganda mouthpiece.
Where have all the journalists gone?
Hang your heads in shame.
There’s no money to be had in journalism. Propaganda is where the money’s at these days.
What? You don’t like paid liars?
The NYT, a.k.a., the Jew York Hymes has always been nothing but Lying Liars telling Lies…LOL
Like Mark Twain said,
“Lies,
Damned Lies,
and Statistics”….which is where we are now.
How.many died in WW2 in Russia ?Millions and they will never stop until Euro trash and American faggots and Jews are destroyed.
There is going to be a big increase in the supply of Russian brides.
A ludicrous piece of propaganda, just like Stalin didn’t murder any Ukrainians…
Reality check… 75% of all the casualties in this war are being caused by artillery’s fire. Ukraine is firing about 6K artillery rounds a day. The Russians are firing about 60K artillery rounds per day…… you do the math.
4 times as many deaths as USA had in 10 years of Vietnam. The entire Russian government is going to collapse by March.
You need to stop putting those magic mushrooms on your corn flakes, they are making you irrational….
Broad stage whisper into the microphone a la grandpa Joe…’We don’t believe you.’ Doesn’t mean what you say isn’t true, just that we don’t believe you. Take a hint fer cripes sake.