Ukraine suffers ‘disastrous’ losses in counteroffensive

Via RT

Kiev has reportedly lost over 25 tanks and IFVs trying to cross a minefield in Zaporozhye © Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

Ukraine’s widely anticipated counteroffensive has seen Kiev’s forces lose a significant amount of armor, including dozens of Western-supplied tanks and infantry fighting vehicles, Forbes reported on Tuesday.

According to the outlet, analysts believe that an attempt by the Ukrainian army’s 47th Assault Brigade and 33rd Mechanized Brigade to cross a minefield near the town of Malaya Tokmachka in Russia’s Zaporozhye region on June 8 proved to be “even more disastrous” than previously thought.

Despite deploying de-mining vehicles, including several ex-Finnish Leopard 2R and one German-made Wisent, the Ukrainian battlegroup appears to have failed to thoroughly clear a path through the mine field. The Wisent and three Leopard 2R struck mines, as did several US-supplied M-2 Bradleys, while the brigade came under fire from Russian artillery and aviation.

As a result of the failed breakthrough, which lasted several hours, experts have estimated that no fewer than 25 Ukrainian vehicles were destroyed, including 17 M-2, four Leopard 2A6 tanks, three Leopard 2R and one Wisent.

Forbes noted that while the loss of one Wisent is not important, as the Ukrainian army still has dozens of them, the other losses have proven to be more significant. The 47th-33rd Brigade battlegroup lost nearly a fifth of Ukraine’s M-2, a fifth of its Leopard 2A6 and half of its Leopard 2R, the outlet claimed, pointing out that Kiev lost the equivalent of an entire battalion in one single botched assault.

Although Washington has already pledged to provide more M-2 vehicles to make up for Kiev’s June 8 losses, Ukraine’s European allies have yet to agree to provide more Leopard 2A6 and there are literally no more Leopard 2R left to send, Forbes noted.

Meanwhile, Kiev has admitted that its much-lauded counteroffensive is not proceeding as quickly as it had hoped. Speaking to Ukrainian media on Wednesday, the head of Ukraine’s National Security and Defense Council Aleksey Danilov stated that Russian troops have shown stiff resistance and acknowledged that the huge minefields laid by Russian forces have proven to be a challenging obstacle.

The Russian Defense Ministry has also reported that Kiev’s large-scale assault has so far failed to achieve results. Russian President Vladimir Putin has described Ukraine’s losses as “catastrophic” and claimed on Tuesday that Kiev had lost 259 tanks and 780 armored vehicles since the start of the advance. (RT)

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44 Comments
CCRider
CCRider
June 30, 2023 7:56 am

So Col. MacGreggor and Scott Ritter have been right all along. The U S suffers another embarrassing loss. Yesterday Biden was on Nicole Wallace’s show and apparently shit his pants on air. An apt omen.

Just Thinking
Just Thinking
  CCRider
June 30, 2023 8:14 am

Is that why he did the Nadler shuffle in shot?

CCRider
CCRider
  Just Thinking
June 30, 2023 8:38 am

Yup. The shit shuffle.

WDS
WDS
  CCRider
June 30, 2023 8:41 am

WH spox will deny that he actually “shit his pants” and say it was only a small shart.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  WDS
July 1, 2023 5:26 am

Or that it was only liquid.

Ghost
Ghost
  CCRider
June 30, 2023 4:49 pm

I wish the woman had the hutzpah to say “OMG! WHO SHIT THEIR PANTS?”

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Ghost
July 1, 2023 9:58 am

If you look close, I bet you can see her nose wrinkle as he shuffles past.

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 30, 2023 7:56 am

False flag hit on power plant or dirty bomb to be blamed on Russia in how long ?

NtroP
NtroP
  Anonymous
June 30, 2023 10:59 am

It’s foolish to guess the exact time, but I’ll go with a week or less……

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
June 30, 2023 1:44 pm

Thinking it will be something with banking or the interwebs, would dovetail nicely…

Ginger
Ginger
June 30, 2023 8:29 am

If the msm showed these videos the cry for war would lessen.
https://southfront.org/in-video-18-ukrainian-servicemen-fighting-russian-minefields/

Nuga
Nuga
  Ginger
June 30, 2023 10:12 am

Fucking hell, the mine in the end was brutal.
I doubt it would lessen the desire for war though- would probably fortify the narrative of nasty russkies brutally murdering democracy-upholding ukies instead.
“Send more bodies to the eastern front to soak up the mines and artillery barrages!” The rainbow/blm-tatted, piercing-ridden white suburban trash would yell.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Nuga
June 30, 2023 1:01 pm

I cringed several times when I was sure the APC was going to back over the wounded.

That whole scene was a giant WTF? Obviously trapped in a minefield and the one guy is wandering around like he wants to step on one.

Obviously I am not privy to what they are thinking, but I have seen several of these type videos and every time, I think, WTF are they doing? My guess is that anyone with a clue or experience has been wiped out and now raw and untrained are just being shoved to the line.

Ukie mine clearing? Send a bunch of untrained guys to drive/walk around until the mines go off? Probably not, but would it look any different if they did?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Ginger
June 30, 2023 10:39 am

It would be interesting to hear the conversations going on between those poor souls.

Ginger
Ginger
  Anonymous
June 30, 2023 3:13 pm

Sadly these are people just like you and I.
Doubt most lived to get to a hospital, no helicopters swooping in to get them to a Hawkeye or Trapper John to sew them up, so they bled out in a ditch in the pain of knowing a limb had been blown away.
They most likely never heard of Victoria Nuland.
This country deserves every bit of judgement heading its way. Most people refuse to even believe this is going on in the world, it is all fake or will never happen to them they think. Our government would send it citizens out for the slaughter no differently than the ukrainians.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Ginger
June 30, 2023 7:03 pm

You can take heart that at least they all probably lived. Quick clot and bandage will hold someone injured by one of these for quite a while. In you linked video you can see a couple of stabilized victims. Looks like the foot is missing.

Likely a PFM-1 or “butterfly” mine. Not generally lethal, meant to maim.

Both sides have them so it is hard to tell who distributed them. Terrible things but better than getting blown entirely to bits…. I guess.

KJ
KJ
June 30, 2023 8:37 am

They’re going to hit the nuclear power plant and blame it on Russia, in order to justify sending NATO troops into Ukraine. Another unforced error by Russia: allowing the Ukuleles to remain too close to the power plant instead of pushing them further back west.

The more time Russia takes, the more opportunities they give to their enemies to start trouble and cause havoc. It’s well past time for them to use overwhelming force.

WDS
WDS
June 30, 2023 8:38 am
Anonymous
Anonymous
  WDS
July 1, 2023 6:55 am

nukes, that’s for sure

Anonymous
Anonymous
  WDS
July 1, 2023 10:03 am

The mines in the Ginger link (June 30, 2023 8:29 am) video are most likely cluster munitions. They are being used already. Both sides have these. Near clones of the US version.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PFM-1_mine

flash
flash
June 30, 2023 8:38 am

Bet no one saw this coming…reeeee

And the MIC is loving it… mo money…mo money…mo money… and on into the infinity, or at least until the divine wrath of God is provoked and hell fire rains from the heavens and consumes all the stupid people, which is the majority of humanity.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  flash
June 30, 2023 10:47 am

Including you, god willing…reeeee

Zulu Foxtrot Golf
Zulu Foxtrot Golf
June 30, 2023 8:59 am

There is an extended video of a minefield extraction gone wrong on that specific operation and it was ghastly. 11 minutes worth of 8 men getting mangled for some pieces of shit in three-piece suits to pretend like they are doing the work of angels in massacring men for profit.

Another video from that offensive shows a Ukronazi CO frag his own men’s bunker for them refusing to go back into a slaughterhouse outside the trench.

Best money Graham has laundered to kill people.

ZFG, out.

P.S. any fucken cunt that is so eager to start a war needs to be the first cunt on point downrange.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Zulu Foxtrot Golf
June 30, 2023 9:21 am

Twitter lockout also prevents the wide sharing of video proof on just how bad the war is going.

Just watch NBC instead /s/

Zulu Foxtrot Golf
Zulu Foxtrot Golf
  Anonymous
June 30, 2023 1:05 pm

Kaotic is where you go for the drone vids.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Zulu Foxtrot Golf
June 30, 2023 6:38 pm

Here too.

https://askeptic.substack.com/

ETA: Beware, some are a bit nasty like Ginger’s SF one above. Poor bastards.

Dying Sun
Dying Sun
June 30, 2023 9:19 am

With all due respect, the Russian soldier, in defense, is one mean SOB. The Germans found this out the hard way in WWII. All the U.S. is doing, by supplying the Ukies with Bradley IFV’s, is turn Ukies into crispy critters.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Dying Sun
June 30, 2023 1:46 pm

How long until some of those fancy weapons make their way back to the US? Your tax $$ at work.

Dying Sun
Dying Sun
  Anonymous
June 30, 2023 4:11 pm

Surely you’re not implying that FJB would allow those weapons to fall into terrorist hands. He would never do such a thing (except in Afghanistan).

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
June 30, 2023 9:10 pm

The ‘Mexican’ cartels apparently already have some of those anti-armor missiles, which apparently made a u-turn in the Mediterranean and somehow ended up in Mexico.

k31
k31
June 30, 2023 10:35 am

The Bradley always was garbage.

RiNS
RiNS
  k31
June 30, 2023 11:21 am

The complaint even when the Bradley was introduced is its profile is too high, making it an easy target on battlefield. And that was back in the 1980’s. With the improvements in guided missile weapons systems it is even moar vulnerable today..

It goes without saying the KA-52’s are having a field day

Zulu Foxtrot Golf
Zulu Foxtrot Golf
  k31
June 30, 2023 1:06 pm

Brads are fucken death traps. Hated being in mech inf. Tombs.

ZFG, out.

P.S. couldnt wait to dismount those pieces of shit.

BabyJaneHudson
BabyJaneHudson
June 30, 2023 12:06 pm

You all should be shitting re drones dropping shells directly onto uS soil.
How will this look when the drones are dropping them on homes and people here?

Hey guys fighting?
Blind the drones with lasers!

Just set up high power laser units directed up to the sky.
Blind every motherbarkng weapons system, drone, satellite or human up there.

BabyJaneHudson
BabyJaneHudson
June 30, 2023 12:38 pm

How to defeat drones.

Blind them.

A laser minefield.
Tens of thousands of 5-10 watt lasers pointed directly up. Have them set to automatically pulse on-off for seconds long bursts.

Approaching drones, the cameras aimed down are instantly and permanently blinded
when they pass over a laser beam.

Drones rendered worthless.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  BabyJaneHudson
June 30, 2023 12:45 pm

Keep in mind that shooting down a drone, with any type of firearm, for any reason including intrusion of privacy, is a felony, even if it is over private property. Most people don’t realize that.
FAA oversees all drones as aircraft, commercial, private, or hobby.
I don’t know about pointing a Laser at one.
I do know if you get busted pointing a laser at any aircraft with passengers, you are going to jail for awhile.

BabyJaneHudson
BabyJaneHudson
  Anonymous
June 30, 2023 1:30 pm

Pretty sure a 5-10 watt laser will not cause a drone to crash as the operator still has full control.
If the drone is out of the operator’s line of sight?
His error.

Wik/wik
I was speaking in context of a “war zone where I’m pretty sure all legal avenues have long since waved bye bye.

“I didn’t know…”

fujigm
fujigm
  Anonymous
June 30, 2023 4:48 pm

I don’t know about pointing a Laser at one.

No, you don’t.
Same with the rest of it.

Dano S.
Dano S.
  BabyJaneHudson
June 30, 2023 1:06 pm

Ugh. Where did you get your information regarding drone target acquisition?

BabyJaneHudson
BabyJaneHudson
  Dano S.
June 30, 2023 1:32 pm

Where did you get your information regarding drone target acquisition?

From the videos of drones literally dropping ordinance on the heads of soldiers.
One direct hit for a fraction of second from a 5 watt laser and those drones are immediately blind.

Note: it takes very little laser power, very little time to fry the electronic image pickup in any modern video or camera device.

Any doubts?
Get a five watt laser and point it directly into your phone camera.
Even from quite a distance a 5 watt laser can immediately destroy devices like phone cam pickups.

Zulu Foxtrot Golf
Zulu Foxtrot Golf
  BabyJaneHudson
June 30, 2023 4:14 pm

Ordnance.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  BabyJaneHudson
June 30, 2023 4:22 pm

I am pretty sure you have never examined the practicality of what you suggest.

Give it a real world try.

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 30, 2023 2:56 pm

Giant douche Mike Pence says all Republicans MUST support war

Citizen Free Press

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 30, 2023 3:15 pm

Nothing 40 or 50 billion more in military aid won’t solve. Their problem will eventually be to many dead soldiers and not enough alive ones. Then does Biden send in the US troops or pretend it was a win for himself?