I had this exact discussion at a family graduation party on Saturday. My brother-in-law and I were talking about all the woke bullshit they have been jamming down our throats and we eventually got around to taxes. I then launched into a tirade against taxes and the government that enforces them at the point of a gun.
I told him everyone kept 100% of their earnings up until 1913 and the country had been able to grow and prosper up until that time without an income tax. He then said what the regime media and the government has drilled into the minds of the masses – “but who would build and maintain the roads and infrastructure of the country?”. Based on what I observe, they’ve done a piss poor job of that. Without an income tax, they wouldn’t be able to wage endless wars or make welfare promises they can’t keep. It would make the government toothless – which is exactly what they should be.
Then I launched into how they tax our income, then with the pittance left over, they inflict us with sales tax, gasoline tax, property tax, utility taxes, hotel taxes, garbage taxes, and a myriad of other taxes and fees. We are taxed to death, with zero benefit to us. And now for the coup de grace they will roll-out climate change taxes. By the end of my tirade in think Russ was firmly on my side and less trusting in his government.
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You didn’t mention one of the most insidious taxes ever created. The Inflation Tax. Prior to 1913 the government was funded, I believe through tariffs or import taxes (whatever those were called). Anyway, yes, we are taxed again and again. When we buy something that money is taxed not only on us but taxed again as income by the seller. On and on it goes until we are nothing but serfs. Unfortunately we are surrounded by imbecels that just don’t and won’t get it. Thank you government funded schools.
Not so fast,my friend…..I would say taxing money you make and then lose investing is pretty insidious!Taxing money you DIDN’T make………WTF???
Amazing. I did not think anyone could be convinced of anything these days. There is so much programming and resistance to listening to alternative viewpoints, no matter how many facts are presented. But, I’m sure he was old enough that he was bringing critical thinking skills to the discussion, something lacking in many people these days.
He’s 70 years old and already leaning toward my viewpoint. Most of my wife’s family already agree with most of what I say. My family, not so much.
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A prophet is not without honor except in his own country and in his own house.
And in his own time.
“The thing about smart people is that they seem like crazy people to dumb people.” ~ Stephen Hawking
“And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.” ~ Friedrich Nietzsche
“People with courage and character always seem sinister to the rest.” ~ Hermann Hesse, “Demian”
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If .gov didn’t tax yo ass, sheniqua wouldn’t make $100k + pension + 30 vacation days/yr to tell you where to stand when entering the DMV.
ReElect Nobody. Every candidate is a “lame duck” from the day they start.
No more “careers”. We the People start running things. No more schmucksperts.
Term Limits are like taxes. Stop using their money.
Make politicians and government employees afraid.
ReElect Nobody. Every candidate is a “lame duck” from the day they start.
That is an idea.
Then the only people who will know what’s going on will be the unelected staffers.
[Who I suspect may already have been running things for decades.]
All the more reason government employee union should not exist.
They work for NIETHER of us!…..
Even FDR was against the concept of government employee unions.
The reason why .gov gives preferential hiring to Sheniqua and her kin, is that without the government jobs it would be even MORE obvious that so few of them have a productive role in the world.
Even without “the attitude”, even without the constant absences, even without the recurring habit of late to work, how many modern jobs can utilize average 85 IQ employees for productive use? Why would any private business hire a Sheniqua?
and then endlessly bitch about how oppressed she is by us !!!!!!
Yes, why are taxes necessary when they can just print however much they want, backed by nothing?
To keep us powerless.
The purpose of income tax is not to finance the government. Income taxes and property taxe are meant to keep “little people” powerless.
Only a completely woke idiot and socialist indoctrinated fool could possibly believe the government tax structures local , state and federal are for the true benefit of the citizenry forced to relinquish up to 50% of every dollar earned !
That is unless you are inside those who benefit from this organized theft and indenture program (slavery) like government employees be they elected , appointed or hired ! This is the protected class insulated from reality that all levels of government borrow and steal wealth from the productive private citizen then there is the inflation tax thanks to money printing !
Nearly all Government retirement plans are technically bankrupt but nobody on that gravy train ever misses a check as private savings and retirement plans circle the drain !
There is a storm brewing in America and EVERYONE is going to get wet !
To the pathetic parasites in DC the jig is up and you cannot keep all the plates spinning and balls in the air.
Eventually your ox will be gored !
The only really big groups which pay in more taxes than they receive in services are White males and Asians. Women as a group, Blacks as a group, Hispanics as a group — all receive more goodies than they pay. And, naturally, those are also the groups which demand more government goodies. Funny how that works.
Asians collectively take more than they give, especially the Chinese.
They are clever and, like the Orthodox Jews, game the welfare system for the benefit of their relatives. Roughly 80 % of them vote democrat.
Spot on , and that’s also why as gov grows it becomes more difficult to stop it because larger and larger segments of the pop are on the payroll and so incentivised to keep that gravy rollin in . Deeeeaamn that socialist wagon is gettin heavy , oh wait, I’m like the only mo fo left pullin this beotch and everyone else is riding . WTF ?LEVIATHAN .
“What have the Romans ever done for us?”
“But the infrastructure!” is always the standard reply. How did they get all those railroads built without an income tax? How did all of the cities get built without an income tax?
Railroads…Robber Barons
Sounds familiar even today.
That’s all true, Tex, but still did not require an income tax. But, yes, it was corrupt and nothing new under the sun. The fedgov and corporations were corrupt then and they are even more so now.
I only answered the question how.
“But it’s the jobs really” the bulk of governments ‘wasteful’ spending goes towards ‘job creation’ providing not really necessary employment opportunities for a growing population, where in the real world efficiency and automation has decreased the head count needed to perform the basic necessary tasks. It gives people a means to support themselves, the alternative is to pay them to stay at home and do nothing, which is the new direction we seem to be heading.
Thats not to say that government expansion, greed, and corruption, and the incredible expanding money supply don’t also figure. Taxes are the collateral used for all government borrowing. Government borrowing in the form of bonds are the collateral purchased by banks to lend multiple quantities of further money into the system. More debt, more borrowing, more taxes..
It’s not sustainable and it’s going to all blow up soon, Mongo. Those gov workers will be sitting at home starving or rioting along with all the other welfare tit suckers.
It gives people a means to support themselves, the alternative is to pay them to stay at home and do nothing, which is the new direction we seem to be heading.
Prostituting their children gives people a means to support themselves also — but that doesn’t make it a good idea. And no, the alternative is not “to pay them to stay at home and do nothing”. The alternative is to not pay them at all, or to only pay them to do something worth doing. The problem with “government make work” programs is that unless the new workers are doing something truly productive, the money spent would likely have generated more jobs if left in the hands of the tax payers. Unfortunately, government make work jobs almost NEVER produce any real value for We The People. During the Great Depression, the CCC employed millions of young men at very low wages in military-like conditions, sending much of the money back to the men’s struggling families. In return there were thousands of National Park projects completed, roads built, dams and waterways worked on, etc. One could argue that even those relatively small outlays could have been better spent by individuals, but at least the nation got projects of lasting value from it. How many current make-work agencies are producing something worth having?
Taxation is the weapon govt uses because it has an army of those willing to help collect those extortions.
When the parasites who sit around all day inventing new and novel ways to limit, control and extort your hard earned money realized that keeping the sheep as poor as possible, that those sheep won’t push back for fear of losing what little they are ALLOWED to keep, then it was baked in that it would grow oppressive.
The wanton corruption, waste and increasing extortions are the natural outcome when people won’t push back and hold the parasite class to account. Corporations and city/town administrations are as much an issue as are the hired irs thugs. Its the perfect criminal venture for theft of your productivity.
I tell anyone that wants to listen that they are one missed property tax payment away from the armed government marauders showing up at their front door.
Texas legislators including Dan Patrick are going to fix that at least in Texas. /s
The State Constitution of Arkansas says that “All lands in this State are declared to be allodial”, meaning that they cannot be seized for failure to pay taxes. I asked a State Representative about that. His response? “DON’T EVEN GO THERE!”
At least your government isn’t taxing the air you breath. Yet.
In Shitcago they calculate the sq. ft. of your roof or parking lot and charge you a sewer tax for the rain. In California the vampirish Governor taxes well water if you have a well. I predict they will eventually tax your home/farm windmill or solar panel generated electricity.
I’m on septic but city people and even smaller towns charge sewer taxes based on water usage. If you happen to be on septic and are living in city limits they will still tax you for sewer at a base rate whether you like it or not.
They do worse than that in the town near here that incorporated a few years back. Sleepy little farming community, every house had a well and septic field.
Millions spent on councillor salaries, water plant, sewage plant, piping, meters…….
For a town of 1500. Property tax QUADRUPLED in a year.
90% of people have not hooked up to the system, as that costs huge dollars, yet are charged the same as if they were connected.
Well done!
On taxing I recall John McCain’s (RIP) rhetoric in cap and trade when he campaigned for the WH in 2008. Interesting the idea originated with the no new taxes Republican party. Color me completely shocked!
I’ve given cap and trade no thought since just after the 2008 GOP primaries. At the time however what I learned about it was that if became active in forest regeneration , as I understood the grand plan, I would be given a certain number of carbon credits. Man, I could make MONEY selling my credits to industries that exceeded their cap. After all, trees don’t pollute at least I’m not aware of such. It never went further than the research and I decided participation would only be another government albatross around my neck. I was reading much Ron Paul. 🙂 Besides I like others have way too many government albatrosses around my neck as is. Vote harder, yeah, vote harder.
2010
The GOP Changes Its Tune on Cap and Trade
That was a Uniparty deal hatched in the 90’s. The Inslaw scandal really shone the light of truth on that one. Stolen software was the basis of a cap and trade scheme. This carbon trading scheme makes the Federal Reserve look like pikers though I imagine they were expecting to be beneficiaries too.
Well, the Federal Reserve loans money to America.
Taxes are necessary to pay the vig on the loan.
The debt was minimal when I was in the fourth grade. Teacher had the debt up by the chalkboard,, I actually walked up and looked at it.
G.Edward Griffin has YouTube videos on the Federal Reserve. Or read the book
Creature from Jekyll Island.. I read the book and watched some video.
I was raised by the goddamned Tax Man as my father was
a Chartered Accountant that worked a lifetime in Senior
Rulings National Revenue Canada Oil, Mines, & Resource
Taxation.
The goddamned Tax Man is a necessary part of the federal
government and governments all over the world also tax their
citizenry so if you want to avoid paying taxes maybe you should
move your pathetic uneducated ass to a third world shithole
where taxation doesn’t apply.
Idiot effin’ right-wing retard.
MOU
Did you not see the graphic?
No I didn’t. I have selective myopia like the author of the article does, too.
MOU
Against stupidity, the Gods themselves contend in vain.
Friedrich von Schiller
No need to do that, the country I live in is turning into a turd world shithole despite the oppressive levels of taxation its federal government levies on its people .
MASTER,
You are the biggest fuckin idiot I’ve encountered all day, and I’ve been reading for an hour and a half.
Congrats!
Thank you. Thank you very much.
MOU
Not only do they tax us more and more, the cost of documenting and obeying all the regulations increases every year. Eventually, they will tax everything but 10% of our income. Then they will take that last 10% and say “By taking everything, you no longer have to calculate your taxes. That last 10% is just our bookkeeping fee for relieving you of that problem. You’re welcome!”
it must be said: paying taxes is tithing to satan.
Dear Christians, please revolt.
Tithing to a Christian Church is also tithing to
Beelzebub/Satan.
I’m an Anglican. And King Chuckles is the head of my church.
He is responsible for the murder of his wife Princess Diana.
I hope I’m ‘revolting’ enough here.
MOU
Oh, you’re plenty revolting here, but thats no big deal. All you do is show what a moronic npc you are to a few thousand people. You are exceptionally revolting to God Himself tho as you deny His Word and Jesus will sit in judgement. See how much you like being revolting then…
I don’t ‘deny’ God’s words in the King James Bible.
God & the baby Jesus have nothing on me.
MOU
LearJet Jesus
To spread the Word faster, to more people! /s
Jesus Built My Lear Jet
Pass the Lord and praise the aeronautics.
The better to visit Pedo Island, don’tcha know.
and who’s the purveyor of ALL these taxes forced upon the populous ?
JEWS
the solution isn’t getting rid of the taxes
it’s called jewish governance.
While Evils are Sufferable
A simple question, but no answer.
As I thought, it’s far right-wing bullshit… once again.
Why don’t you publish my original question you morons?