DISCUSS: The UFO Hearings

Via Off-Guardian

Today is the big day, UFO enthusiasts. Today you get your day in court.

…or, rather, your day in front of Congress.

Yes, later today US Congress will gather to hear testimony on whether or not US government agencies have been keeping UFO sightings – or even wreckage – secret from the American people.

Among the witness line up will be David Grosch, the “whistleblower” who made headlines claiming that the US had retrieved wrecked alien spacecraft that “distorted time and space”.

However the UFO narrative is more than just one guy shouting at clouds, there’s a concerted effort to move UFO talk into the mainstream spotlight, well documented in a Forbes article published earlier today which gives a good timeline breaking down each “report” and “leak” that has shifted the UFO talk away from fringe “conspiracy theorists” and, well…on to the front cover of Forbes.

What’s noteworthy in all the press coverage is how dispassionately accepting it is.

The Guardian has their own timeline, published a couple of hours ago, which blithely recounts “how we got here”.

CNN’s notice on the congress discussing “unidentified aerial phenomena” reads like the announcement of a debate on parking permits or the minutes of a particularly dull PTA meeting.

Other publications are just as trusting if not rather more enthusiastic. Slate headlines “We’re About to Find Out What We Really Know About UFOs” and tells us in the sub-head that “Nothing will ever be the same again.”

Where is the mockery? Where is the anger at wasting public money and time? Where are the official “fact-checkers”?

Where is the almost immune-like rejection of the alternative we have come to expect from all corporate media?

It is absent. UFOs are already more acceptable than 9/11 truthers, Covid skeptics or climate change “deniers”. What a time to be alive.

Going back to that Forbes article, the author addresses how UFOs went “from taboo to Mainstream”. But what they are less clear on – in fact, what they do not mention at all – is why.

We say it all the time – but the the news doesn’t just happen. It is created, directed and controlled. If we’re all talking about UFOs, it’s because someone wants us to.

We published a more in-depth article about this last month, “Wait…are they REALLY going to do a UFO psy-op?”, which pondered why this narrative would be rolling out now, but couldn’t find a concrete explanation.

Well, maybe today we’ll get some answers.

But what do you guys think?

  • Do you believe the UFO revelations?
  • Do you trust Grosch and the other whistleblowers
  • What do you expect to come from today’s hearings?
  • What narrative do UFO sightings serve?
  • …should we really prepare for an alien False Flag?
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Anonymous
Anonymous
July 27, 2023 6:41 am

I’ve always thought the UFO hoax was used as a cover for experimental military aircraft and I’ve seen no evidence to change my mind. I remember back in the late 80’s that people were reporting arrowhead shaped “alien spacecraft” flying around. Then the first Iraq war happened, and those “alien spacecraft” turned out to be the stealth bomber and fighter, both of which are shaped like an arrowhead.

anonymous
anonymous
  Anonymous
July 27, 2023 7:45 am

The ‘black triangle’ is ours too. Quiet, can hover, silently move slow and take off instantly.
Once they solved anti gravity, well…… L@@K! A ufo!
I think that the pilots scare the sh!t out of people on country roads and wilderness (sometimes in cities) on purpose. A good chuckle.
And you know that if they allow those to be seen everywhere…they already have had a craft(s) far superior that most haven’t seen or know about.
That’s how it works.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
July 27, 2023 1:45 pm

Every NPC was talking about this at work today, these useless pustules make me sick. This is just plain old theater for the NPC’s.

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  Anonymous
July 27, 2023 11:43 pm

UFO hearings = Not looking into Pedo Biden and his crimes.

Keep your eyes on the ball, folks.

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 27, 2023 6:44 am

Me? I don’t really have an opinion one way or another other than take all preconceived ideas off the table and study the stuff dispassionately. Do the science the old fashion way.

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 27, 2023 6:58 am

Anything the MSM/Hollywood/Washington covers big is fake. If it ain’t on TV it’s true. The financial situation must be ready to crumble. The khazarian/Radknight/Rothschild/Rockefeller/Moneychangers must be desperate to find a cover for the collapse. Thousands of years of control may be ending. The great revealing about to happen?

Freddy Uranus
Freddy Uranus
July 27, 2023 7:20 am

It’s an hour long, but I couldn’t stop listening to this gentleman. I use to think UFOs were mostly BS. But, if this guy is telling the truth, and he appears to be a very, very credible and articulate marine, There is an unbelievable amount of evil in our world.

anonymous
anonymous
  Freddy Uranus
July 27, 2023 7:50 am

Disinfo specialists sound and look ‘credible’ too. When anyone is sworn to secrecy and a loyal armed services minion, they will lie their asses off with a script, continually. It’s their job to do so. Even those ‘deathbed’ confessions are a disinfo ops too, loyal unto death. A team player. In their minds, for the good of the country and world.

Zulu Foxtrot Golf
Zulu Foxtrot Golf
  Freddy Uranus
July 27, 2023 8:35 am

Shawn Ryan needs to stick to the milops and border/cartel stuff. GBRS dudes can easily drop psyop shit in their podcasts.

UFOs are bullshit.

ZFG, out.

P.S. until I see John Nada chewing bubble gum and kicking ass I will keep prepping for the real aliens.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
July 27, 2023 7:43 am

Distraction: The UFO Hearings. FIFY

Booger
Booger
July 27, 2023 7:49 am

Another fascinating episode of the shit show known as “American Clown World”. Are you entertained yet?

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The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
July 27, 2023 8:30 am

You can’t be twenty on bullshit mountain, with the barkers and the colored balloons. You can’t be twenty on bullshit mountain, although you’re thinkin’ that you’re leavin’ there too soon.

Machinist
Machinist
July 27, 2023 8:32 am

I have never seen an ‘alien’ or an UFO or anything like a lizard people/person.
Since that’s true, I don’t believe that anything like that exists.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Machinist
July 27, 2023 10:06 am

I’ve seen both.

Machinist
Machinist
  The Central Scrutinizer
July 27, 2023 10:45 am

was supposed to be a joke.

monger
monger
  Machinist
July 27, 2023 1:26 pm

I’ve seen enough things not of our accepted experience to know there is a hidden side.

Eud
Eud
  Machinist
July 27, 2023 7:04 pm

“People of Earth” is a great alien comedy.
They have Grays, Reptilians and Whites!

Notorious Lurker
Notorious Lurker
  Machinist
July 28, 2023 12:30 am

I have seen some shit that could count as UFOs, so what. What I do know is that these psy-ops haven’t said anything that Col. Phil Corso didn’t have in his book “The Day After Roswell” or that Bob Lazar hasn’t said. It’s like they are sticking to the UFO cannon that has been established and regurgitating it. They trot this shit show out when they need another distraction, wait for Project Blue Beam.

The other option is, like when the Air Force was separated from the Army, within a few years (1947 to 1969 on the moon) we went from propeller planes to the SR71 (1964) and the moon. Now, Space Force is ready to pop out of the closet with the same leap in technology.

It might be better for them to lie and say we got the tech from aliens then to have to admit they worked it out years ago. They lie, its what they do.

I'm the Man on the Silver Mountain
I'm the Man on the Silver Mountain
  Notorious Lurker
July 28, 2023 9:31 am

Electro-gravitational physics is just one of many hidden research projects the aerospace companies work on. Look up the Biefeld-Brown Effect and how it works, the principle is applied to not only stealth bombers but bladeless fans.

I once took a stroll through the museums on the National Mall with the kids and stopped to look at the remnants of old science projects. After a couple of minutes I realized the foundation of particle physics done in the early 20th Century was the foundation of particle beam weapons, television sets, and night vision goggles. Another weapons “advancement” is Laser Induced Plasma Channeling. I watched this as it was piece-parted out with government funding to the US Navy. It first started out as private research billed as an IED neutralizer, but the Navy grabbed the technology and patents because it had zero real consumer value in the real world outside of weaponry.

Stuff like this why a financial “black hole” of unaccountable MIC spending exists in this country. It started with “Operation Paper Clip” and hasn’t stopped.

WilliamC
WilliamC
July 27, 2023 8:41 am

ETs have been coming to this planet for eons. The Roman and Greek gods were really ETs. Many of the Biblical stories and people were either ETs or were adided by them. If we can detect planets around other stars, it is fallacy to think that a civilization with interstellar transportation tech would not know of us and visit us. It is also a fallacy to believe that such a visiting ET race would be benevolent. They would be more likely to claim to be gods, and use their tech for personal gain. It is also obvoius that they interferred with human DNA. For proof of that, just look at the human throat…. it is radically different from the ape throats we were supposed to have evolved from. Such a radical difference does not occur in a small number fo steps of evolution. Another proof is the #2 chromosome in humans. Whats with that?

anonymous
anonymous
  WilliamC
July 27, 2023 11:27 am

“The Roman and Greek gods were really ETs.”
Uh no.
All the ‘gods’ and ‘goddesses’ of every culture were all the same PEOPLE.
Called by different names in each culture, still all the same humans. Gods and goddess beliefs and worship was a sophisticated form of ancestor worship from the dawn of time.
Down thru the ages, the people lost the real truth and believed in their own myths/legends of many gods and goddesses that were created to explain very true historical occurrences.

Read: (for starters) Robert Bowie Johnson Jr’s detailed work:
The Parthenon Code
Genesis Characters and Events in Ancient Greek Art
Athena and Eden
Athena and Kain

Calling Biblical angels/messengers ET’s in the same vein as ET ‘gods and goddesses’ is not the same. They are not other beings (ET/ aliens) from this Universe nor dimension.

‘Ancient Aliens’ takes myth, legends, facts, history, remnants, old artifacts/ruins, ooparts and jumbles them up all together and comes up with the wrong conclusions. Whatever they do not understand, and history they never studied, it’s always….aliens!!!

Eud
Eud
  WilliamC
July 27, 2023 4:12 pm
A.K.A.
A.K.A.
  Administrator
July 27, 2023 8:50 am

Indeed. Using fear quite effectively to divide & conquer for control and manipulation.
Props used include money, and a multitude of false flags.

Squirrel 🐿️!!!
Look! Over there!

Redirection is a strategy.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Administrator
July 27, 2023 9:21 am

Bingo. Not to mention the trillions they could spend on MIC

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 27, 2023 8:48 am

Do you believe the UFO revelations? No!
Do you trust Grosch and the other whistleblowers No
What do you expect to come from today’s hearings? Nothing but vague conjecture and zero proof
What narrative do UFO sightings serve? It’s summertime and all there is to report is government corruption. They need to get that off the headlines. Stupid people will follow.
…should we really prepare for an alien False Flag? No, I’m way more concerned about a domestic terror false flag to put the nail in the coffin of all non-leftists and the complete take over of all money, businesses and forced lockdowns.

Booger
Booger
  Anonymous
July 27, 2023 8:56 am

Psychological operations (PSYOP) – is it real or is it MemoREX?

anon a moos
anon a moos
  Anonymous
July 27, 2023 9:01 am

ding ding ding.

Would you like your chicken with BBQ or wrapped wit copious amounts of bacon?

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
July 27, 2023 9:23 am

I don’t know whether you can see a Gab post so I will copy the text but you won’t see the image that Matt Bracken posted.

[I agree, it’s a psyop. Also see the next post.]
Ian Miles Cheong
@stillgray
It’s not aliens. It isn’t demons. It’s a government psyop to keep you distracted so you don’t think too hard about how they’re screwing you over and removing your freedoms piece by piece.

The psyops are constant and endless, like a form of entertainment but somehow even more mind-numbing than watching an endless stream of the Kardashians.

If you’re an educated person who considers himself something of a connoisseur of the news, a story like the UFO hearings is certain to not only pique your interest but take up all of your time as it captivates you the same way Paw Patrol might captivate a three-year-old.

Also check out career spook and former DNI James Clapper, who was one of the 51 intel community experts who dismissed Hunter’s laptop as “Russian disinformation” just casually sitting in the front row on the far left of this picture

https://gab.com/Matt_Bracken/posts/110785648476506082

Clapper…you should see his face. It’s a face I would love to see under a big boot. Now why is Clapper there? That crook should be sitting on death row.

anon a moos
anon a moos
  Mary Christine
July 27, 2023 9:29 am

captivates you the same way Paw Patrol might captivate a three-year-old.

No truer line spoken. Speaks of the populous of the west. So informed but brain dead.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Mary Christine
July 27, 2023 10:21 am

Related: This is a 12 tweet thread. I will post the relevant links. There is a lot more to the thread for those who still have accounts.

What you can’t see in the above tweet:
“If possible, fabricate big human interest story, like flying saucers, birth sextuplets in remote area to take play away.”

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1952-54Guat/d89

Paleocon
Paleocon
July 27, 2023 9:28 am

Everything is a psyop or grift in fake and GAE Clown World.

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 27, 2023 10:21 am

OK, you asked for input, I’ll give you mine.

Do you believe the UFO revelations?
No, and I’ll go into that more below.

Do you trust Grosch and the other whistleblowers
Nope. He’s a G-man, which automatically makes him untrustworthy.

What do you expect to come from today’s hearings?
A bunch of bullshit the government wants us to believe.

What narrative do UFO sightings serve?
The usual, divert our attention from things that really matter. Pay attention to what else is going on that’s important, such as financial shenanigans or military operations, that are being obscured by this UFO bullshit.

…should we really prepare for an alien False Flag?
Perhaps.

I loved reading about science when I was a kid (a long time ago, but in this galaxy rather than one far away). One thing I came across as a youngster back in the 70s was the Drake equation. That’s the speculative equation that calculates the chances of finding intelligent, space-faring alien life elsewhere in the universe. By the way, since we’re (supposedly) intelligent and space-faring, the odds of it happening are even money – us.

The Drake equation goes through various phases – a star that could support an inhabitable planet, the chances that such a planet exists around that star, the odds of primitive life developing, etc. all the way up to intelligent civilizations that are space-faring. As I’m not a religious person and don’t believe in creation stories (my apologies to those here who do), I take such an equation seriously. The chances that other stable stars exist (red dwarfs theoretically are stable enough), that an inhabitable planet could be circling one, etc. are actually pretty reasonable considering the billions of galaxies and countless numbers of stars. Next up is life itself. I’m not a biologist, but my gut feeling is that primitive life may not be all that hard to come by elsewhere. There could be many planets or moons out there in the vastness of space with bacteria, fungi, etc. Heck, perhaps even fish or something else less advanced than humans.

My own thought is that intelligent life in civilizations is the part that’s hard to come by. Let’s say that an asteroid never hit the Earth 65 or so million years ago. We may not have developed, and the life on this planet may not have developed advanced intelligence. Or let’s say Homo Sapiens died out due to predators, natural disasters or intertribal wars (or all three). Then our advanced civilizations would never have developed. Or let’s say civilizations did develop, but never advanced beyond, say, ancient Rome or Greece. In other words, not technological. That’s why I think the hardest part is the space-faring civilization.

So what does that have to do with UFO’s? The odds that they are some extraterrestrial civilization that found us and didn’t blow our planet to bits to make way for a galactic bypass (nod to The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy) are quite low. Very low. Almost nonexistently low. Besides that, getting here even from another solar system in our own galaxy would either violate the known laws of physics or take such a long time that it would be a multi-generational endeavor, and those aliens would have been more likely to colonize our planet rather than just study it.

PSBindy
PSBindy
  Anonymous
July 27, 2023 12:46 pm

You are fashionably versed in the ‘approved’ script, anon. No snark intended.

When I was 10 yo in the late 50s, my 14 yo sister’s science textbook informed me (and sis too, I suppose) about “The simple cell.” There was a cell membrane or wall depending on whether it was plant or animal. There was a nucleus about which little if anything was noted. There were a few dots and short squiggly lines called mitochondria, about which, again, little was said. It seemed to be no more complex than what the eye could note about a cracked egg. Dna/rna was near a decade away.

Doctoral thesis (WAG) today are written trying to explain the intricacies of the cell wall. Of how it can allow entry to nutrients and beneficial substances such as vitamins and minerals and oxygen etc, yet prohibit entry to harmful substances. How it can allow exit of spent substances.

How just the cell membrane alone works, is a mystery to the best scientists. That doesn’t stop them from guessing. Oops, I mean theorizing.

When the cell divides, the dna strands which are many many times longer than the diameter of the entire cell, separates itself with two of the four linking strands (ACTH) and joins itself with a new complimentary set (each half with it’s new partner) and folds itself into an untangled package doing its job until told (by what?) to do it again.

My trailer is unloaded. Gotta go. There’s MUCH more in EVERY aspect of THE SIMPLE CELL to believe it came about and operates by happenstance.

I simply do not have enough FAITH to believe that.

Eud
Eud
July 27, 2023 11:45 am

July, 2023, New York Times”A great alien ship landed on the white house lawn. When the door opened on the craft, out came a man sized alien SQUIRREL.”

Buttons “I Invite the little distractions to the white house for dinner and an afterparty with my son Alien Hunter. Who is bringing a gaggle of little girls with sweet, sweet smelling hair”

The True one and only Caitlyn Jenner's testicles
The True one and only Caitlyn Jenner's testicles
July 27, 2023 12:52 pm

UFO is the squirrel, shiny object distraction away from the overabundant crimes going on in the swamp.

monger
monger
July 27, 2023 1:14 pm

https://galaksija.info/literatura/jk_oth.pdf

operation Trojan horse by John A Keel
worth reading imo

Or try the book Ezekiel…. like to figure out what a Cheribum is, not human what is it ?

AKJOHN
AKJOHN
  monger
July 27, 2023 3:30 pm

Cheribum is another name for an angelic being. Angelic being can go from earth to heaven and visa versa.

Defector
Defector
July 27, 2023 3:50 pm

What a time we are living in.
Soon those caling gov propaganda about UFOs BS will be labelled conspiracy theorists.

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  Administrator
July 27, 2023 11:41 pm

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Jdog
Jdog
July 27, 2023 6:21 pm

The Government has fucked up everything from the solvency of the government itself, to the war in Ukraine, to the homogony of the dollar. They are now pulling this UFO crap out of their asses to try to distract the idiot masses who believed them about Covid and every other lie they told them. Everyone in the government deserves to be swinging from a rope….

Voltara
Voltara
July 27, 2023 7:16 pm

If it’s picked up and promoted by the mainstream media it’s against my interest to engage with it.

The American Nightmare
The American Nightmare
July 27, 2023 10:10 pm

I don’t know any aliens so…

Eud
Eud
  The American Nightmare
July 28, 2023 8:09 pm

I don’t know of anyone who was abducted by aliens. And I know like, twelve people.

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
July 27, 2023 11:17 pm

“Aliens” always pop up when there is something embarrassing for The Borg.

SQUIRREL!!!!

Any beings who can conquer interstellar space don’t drive “ships” that crash
or can be seen. The amount of energy that would be required to drive a craft
near the speed of light would be almost infinite. Quantum physics deny any chance
of a “ship” travelling that fast as mass increases exponentially as it approaches the speed of light.
If a race of beings can come here they don’t transit trillions
of miles of interstellar space in a craft made of matter.
If they have discovered a form of teleportation, where they convert their matter into energy, send themselves at the speed of light, and reconstitute themselves at a different point, they don’t crash, and they would never allow themselves to be detected.

All this “Aliens!” woo woo is so we see the squirrel and not the evil of our government Borg.

anonymous
anonymous
July 28, 2023 6:38 am

Could Globalists Fake an Alien Invasion?

Could Globalists Fake an Alien Invasion?

Lacaille
Lacaille
July 28, 2023 10:42 am

the closest planetary system to our sun has a sun called Proxima Centuri that’s 4.2 light-years away. The next closest planetary system’s sun is called Lalande that’s 8.3 l-yrs away. The next is 10.7 l-yrs away.

The distance of one light-year is 5.8 trillion miles

Its impossible for anything with mass to travel at the speed of light (~186,000,000 miles / sec). A time frame of how long it would take a creature if they could travel at even 20% of the speed of light from the closest planetary system to ours, would take that spaceship ~ 20 years to get here

The closest planetary system to our sun that they say, I didn’t say it, that has a planet which they say could have habitable life is 10.7 light-years. . . or 62 trillion miles away !
I don’t give a shit what anyone thinks There’s no way in hell space aliens are visiting earth or have ever visited earth before

Eud
Eud
July 28, 2023 8:07 pm

Johhny Carson had a guest expert on UFOs: