I’m betting that’s going to be the last RNC debate. I’m still voting for Trump but seeing Vivek’s attack mode activated was legendary. Finally someone called out the war profiteers and the RNC’s self-inflicted losing streak.
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The enemy will disclose themselves by the level of criticism they direct at Vivek while the rest of us are laughing our asses off.
Or they’ll give him the Ron Paul treatment.
I recall that. Even a limolib like Stewart was shrieking about Ron being unpersoned by his own party and the MSM.
True SS. These are sluts who don’t possess the slightest bit of decency. A great memory-back when I had a passing thought that this country might not be screwed after all.
It seemed like I was the only person I knew who noticed how Ron Paul was at the same time being de-personed and slandered as a loon on page 3 or 4. It was pretty amazing before I had really honed my noticing skills. That was the year he legit won the Iowa primary and had it stolen from him by the Party with trunk fulls of ballots.
The only political forum I’ve participated other than TBP was smoaky.com political forum many years ago .
Ron Paul was considered a kook among the GOP duped on that site. I lashed out but when dealing with inbreeds it does no good. They liked guys like John McCain and went ballistic with enthusiasm over “Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.” to the tune of an old Beach Boys tune, Barbara Ann. If that ain’t some ignorance I don’t know what is.
My short term memory is nothing unusual , forget the milk type memory loss while my long term may not be so good for me actually , not that I hold grudges, I simply remember.
“Unforgiven” comes into play and these loser GOPhers I trust get everything they deserve with their boy’s deadly jab. SMDH
Not that anyone gives a rats , thinking “back”, my first “experience” with political nonsense on Al Gore’s Internet was actually along about late 2007 and into 2008. My wife asked me one day if I had heard about this fellow named Ron Paul running as a republican. Well no, but since I was raised in a GOPher family I called my folks and asked if they knew of this Ron Paul guy. Yes, they knew who he was , “he’s a kook”.
Ok, I began to listen to what Ron Paul had to say and I signed up for a politically opiniated web site called Grassfire.org, yes an “org”. There were just two maybe three members I recall that were Ron Paul supporters and it was like maybe I can feel at home here, which I did yet the comments about Paul and such would raise some disagreements but with no cursing, you know, a “policy” for membership. I laughed my ass completely off and will never forget debating who should be nominated the GOPher head dude in 2008. One woman I recall made the comment that Fred Thompson would make a good president because in her opinion Fred did such a good job on the TV series “Law and Order”. I’m not making this up. No wonder the state of “things” , eh? Remember Fred starred in that show? LMAO. That is some good “qualifications” right there!
Grassfire.org later became firesociety.com. I lost track what became of the site but I still have my login ID and password but don’t think any of that is still around. I “moved on” to one of my favorite activities, myth busting “good ole boys from Texas”, on political theories, realities of results with the chosen politicians top to bottom and such at smoaky.com. With few exceptions that site hated Chuck Baldwin and like I mentioned Ron Paul was a “kook”. No cursing on that site or one would be “banned”, branded for life. There were Fred Thomson supporters at smoaky as well and when I coined the nickname, “Gentleman Jack” Fred , funny , funny, the responses.
forgive me if this is a silly question- do you have a website/blog?
Smells like Clown World control op…look like he was reading a script , and when he calls out NBC moderator for the promoting the Russian Collusion Hoax, the camera slickly pans to the moderator exposing her shit-eating grin. Fake and gay …bet on it.
If he didn’t make his money from being a big pharma person, I would say he is a legitimate candidate for America.
No matter which of the shills is elected, Netanyahu will still run the regime and the Rothschilds will still control Netanyahu. But hey, if this your brand of entertainment, knock yourself out.
The day the billions say no to the thousands, this ends.
“When enough people understand reality, tyrants can literally be ignored out of existence. They can’t ever be voted out of existence.” ― Larken Rose
“Think what it implies when you say that a country needs leaders. In your day-to-day life, you interact with all sorts of other individuals. And that’s all society is: the collective name for lots of INDIVIDUALS. But for some inexplicable reason, we’re taught to believe that one huge, arbitrarily chosen assortment of individuals (the “citizens” of one human livestock farm–I mean, “country”) need some control freaks acting as intermediaries in order to interact with a different arbitrarily chosen assortment of individuals (the “citizens” of some other human livestock farm–I mean, “country”). Because gee, how could I and some random person in the middle of China possibly leave each other alone if we didn’t each have a gang of narcissistic sociopaths claiming to “represent” us? Oh, wait a minute. That’s exactly how and why pretty much ALL wars happen: because different gangs of power-happy psychos pit their pawns against each other in violent conflict, while claiming to “represent” subsets of humanity. One more example of how “government” is a problem posing as its own solution.” ― Larken Rose
https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/2978257.Larken_Rose
I agree. I.E. , the likelihood of “The State Of Israel” dupe living on in control of United States politicians and its people for that matter is probably a good bet.
What a crock a boycott on Russian vodka can be enacted in the Unites States yet State Of Israel bullshit cannot.
Hi, Chubbs. Did you get the latest big, beautiful Covid vaccine yet? It’s bigger and more beautiful that any of the others. Love ya.
Yuuuge
Fabulous
Remember Ed Sullivan? He would introduce his show by saying it would be a really big show, something like that.
“Yuuuge.” That there is yet another funny.
That’s some funny stuff right there and the older I become the more I like funny stuff.
Karen, I mean Nikki, Haley is insufferable.
She demonstrates exactly why we don’t need a woman anywhere near public office.
Or she demonstrates that a corrupt politician in a dress is still a corrupt politician.
No, she is emotional. She couldn’t respond to a factual attack with anything but anger and name calling.
When liars are called out they tend to be highly emotional. A man caught in a lie will react with anger and name calling too. Has nothing to do with her gender.
Men are far more likely to be stoic.
That’s not true. There’s lots of emotionally reactive men. The moment a man’s favorite sports team loses or they’re turned down for sex they throw a hissy fit.
You’re both right . . . and wrong. It’s a falsely framed argument for the state. No one is qualified to have the leverage of institutional power to lord it over others for any reason.
OK, now back to TBP’s regularly scheduled Two Minutes Stephanie Hate.
P.S.: GOP is self-roasting. “Opposition” party?
NOT.
Who the hell watches sports?
Two-hooved cattle, being fattened for slaughter.
called sheeps
Most Ameritards. Indeed, plenty of other global citizens will even forego food to see their favourite soccer team in person or on the telly.
Panem et circenses: for the serfs while being robbed blind.
Go team!/s
I still look at Texas high school football scores and would like to see another six man football game at the state semi-final or state final levels yet no way I’ll ever step in Jerry Jones Temple there in Arlington. Forget it.
What the infatuation with soccer, World Soccer, whatever , totally beyond me. You can even see vehicles in Texas with those banner things for some freaking soccer team. Go to a Tex-Mex joint for some Spanish rice, charro beans and tamales and dang, right there on American TV is Mexico in a game of soccer.
Cheapest sport going
Soccer is for poor people, and that’s why it is so heavily promoted.
Millions on Saturdays watch American college football; it’s human nature to like food, music , sports etc but the NFL, NBA etc are now pitiful commercial & political excuses for sports; like Hollywood ruined modern music
If I threw a fit every time a woman turned me down, I would have been locked up long time ago. Most women won’t even talk to a guy. Nikki, your daughter likes Tiktok so just Man-up about it.
Moar likely Nimrata’s daughter likes the BBC.
One of her videos has her dancing with a jigro
Being turned down does not put many notches on the gun rhs. Times I was turned down I was so drunk , I mean , whose fault was that? Mine. Then there were times it went like the lyrics in a song. Why Don’t We Get Drunk
Damn, glad I don’t have to go through all that bullshit again, growing pains, whatever it was.
toe tapper here…get the beat
sex
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now lies about the trans psyop:
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And these folks, too: https://www.grammarly.com/blog
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https://www.grammarly.com/blog/gender-sexuality-language/
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And these former standard-bearers:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/sex-vs-gender-how-they2019re-different
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And everyone and everything else:
https://www.google.com/search?q=sex+vs+gender&sca_esv=581032301&source=hp&ei=6XlNZYPfGtCfptQP_7qJmA4&iflsig=AO6bgOgAAAAAZU2H-a4EGc1rZNDh6PGJMoYMeIZJwSbW&ved=0ahUKEwjD9-iLl7iCAxXQj4kEHX9dAuMQ4dUDCBE&oq=sex+vs+gender&gs_lp=Egdnd3Mtd2l6Ig1zZXggdnMgZ2VuZGVySABQAFgAcAB4AJABAJgBAKABAKoBALgBDMgBAA&sclient=gws-wiz
Straight outa 1984, the past is being erased. Forget surgery: they’re defining dicks and tits right off. All of these crooks need a front hole . . . in their corrupt foreheads.
I know of someone of opposite gender like that.
Two street-shitters trying to discredit each other, you might really get into some of those lame Bollywood movies free on Pizza Flix.
Two street-shitters fighting over how to spend your money.
The duped at smaoky.com raved over Niki back then, 2012ish. Yep, she will kick some muslim ass!
Bread & circuses.
2016 called…they want their loyal slaves back.
Abby- Just wait til Swammy starts promising a Tuc-Tuc in every garage. Mericans will forget all about 2016 version of the savior.
Sorry, AA. Used the bread and circuses angle above before reading your comment.
Great minds…and all that jazz. 🙂
We’ll keep Tucker Carlson as one of the debate moderators since he will bring in viewers, but Rogan and Musk won’t contribute anything worthwhile.
So keep Tucker, but add say, Lew Rockwell and Jim Quinn, and bring the fooken pain.
Coax The Don to join in. Now that there would bring ’em in and make him look like shit depending what “questions” are allowed by the control freaks “monitoring”. I think the so called debates are over now for the GOPhers ? How much nicer could it be for The Don? I’d like to hear more excuses for that jab! What’s up with this eminent domain for private gain idea, take the guns first, and many more “ideas”. Uh , how about freedom cities and WTF were you doing at a WEF conference? Why did Mexico not pay for that wall? The deal with the wall, how absolutely absurd the “idea” behind that. Time to laugh, ha, ha, ha, ha…
If I didn’t have such a crush on Kari Lake, I’d think Vivek would make the ideal VP, and some day a good president.
You’ve just bolstered Stephanie’s argument that men are as irrational as women are.
You can’t win a race if you aren’t running in it; she’s running for Congress though.
None of these 5 people are going to be the next POTUS.
The Repubs are self destructing. My money is on the dashing asshole from the golden state. All the same mechanisms for throwing the election are still in place, if their is one. A lot can happen in a year.
All the MSM polls show the fix is still in and so do some of the 7Nov23 election results.
But what about all those MSM polls showing Donnie with a “Yuuuge” lead? The Yuuugest lead ever know to mankind, its Yuuuge!
Regardless of everything else, I appreciate both Vivek and RFK Jr. for pushing the Overton Window wide open. Calling the RNC on their failures and Nikki on her warmongering is absolutely needed.
vivek is as much a “citizen” as nimrata and chocolate jesus.
The GOP establishment shills no likey…
Finally, in defending his use of TikTok, he cited the fact that Nikki Haley’s daughter used to be on the app. He thus violated the basic rule of decency in such proceedings of not bringing an opponent’s children into a debate. Haley reacted fiercely, calling Ramaswamy “scum,” an inartful, if understandable, description given the circumstances.
lol…posted wrong link…
Enjoy
I know little about this so called debate than what I’ve read here. At least he did not say the daughter or Nikki were bleeding from their eyes. That type comment is some decency for certain.
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beginning in 2026 ,all new vehicles sold in the us have to have a kill switch that allows the vehicle to decide if you are impaired —
here is thomas massie vs the aholes,aka dems,aka commies —
You may have heard that as of yesterday, it’s been decided that beginning in 2026 all cars sold in the United States will be equipped with a “kill switch,” whereby the car can be disabled remotely if it is determined that you are driving poorly.
Rep. Thomas Massie sought to defund this provision of the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, a bill of over 1000 pages. His amendment was defeated.
But I want you to see the difference in how he argues from how the Democrats argue. You’ll see it immediately.
First Massie:
My amendment is simple. It will defund the federal mandate that requires all new vehicles after 2026 be equipped with a kill switch that can disable a vehicle if the vehicle has monitored the user’s the driver’s performance, and that the vehicle determines that the driver is not performing well.
It’s so incredible that I have to offer this amendment. It almost sounds like the domain of science fiction, dystopian science fiction, that the federal government would put a kill switch in vehicles that would be the judge, the jury and the executioner on such a fundamental right as the right to travel freely. But here we are. It is federal law that this is mandated. And so I am offering this amendment to defund this mandate.
Then Rep. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz (D-FL) delivers her response:
I rise in opposition to this amendment. Let me be clear. This this the act that the gentleman is trying to defund does not require auto manufacturers to install kill switches. It does not do that. Passive drunk driving technology is a vital tool in safeguarding our loved ones and other innocent people on our roads. This new technology offers a lifeline of hope to not only save lives, but to prevent the lifelong emotional toll and gargantuan costs these accidents inflict on families. Deadly drunk driving accidents can echo across generations, but we can seize this opportunity to stop such tragedies.
Between 2019 and 2021, Florida saw a 31% increase in drunk driving crashes in Mr. Massie’s home state of Kentucky, 190 people were killed in drunk driving crashes in 2021 alone. That was a 26% increase. When we saw these grim statistics, we acted in a bipartisan fashion in Congress. And how often do we see that both Republicans and Democrats supported the Halt act to require auto manufacturers to make this passive technology standard in new vehicles?
The sponsor of this misguided amendment will tell you that he worries about privacy concerns. We heard the same inane calls with seatbelt requirements. But you don’t have a right to engage in potentially fatal behavior that we know poses a major health threat to public safety. Passive drunk driving technology is pro-police. This anti-drunk driving technology lightens the load on police officers, allowing them to focus on more pressing safety concerns. The importance of this technology goes far beyond statistics. It’s about saving lives, preventing heartbreak and making our roads safer. It’s a passionate call to action to prevent alcohol-impaired driving from shattering the lives of those we hold dear.
This amendment, I understand, was dubbed the kill switch amendment and it does not require a kill switch. It simply allows, it simply requires passive technology to help us prevent drunk driving. In the name of the 406 people who that were killed by a drunk driver in my own state of Florida last year alone, I urge my colleagues to vote no on this amendment. Let’s take steps to reduce deaths due to drunk driving, not increase them.
Now here’s Massie again:
Drunk driving is a serious problem. That’s why 31 states already have a law to implement interlock ignition technology, where if you’ve been convicted of a DUI, that you have to pass this test in order to operate your vehicle. But this federal law that I seek to defund goes far beyond that. And I regret that I have to spend some of my time reading the law to the other side of the aisle. But I will do that.
This law that was passed in a thousand-page bill two years ago requires that automobiles can passively monitor the performance of a driver, not the blood alcohol content, but the performance of a driver of a motor vehicle to accurately identify whether that driver may be impaired, not drunk, it says impaired, and prevent or limit motor vehicle operation. That’s a kill switch.
Now the question is, how much time do you have once your dashboard tells you that it doesn’t approve of your driving? What if you’re a single mother and you’re out on a in bad weather and you’re trying to avoid some obstacles? Ice perhaps. And you’ve swerved three times and your dashboard says: swerve one more time and you’re going to be put over to the side of the road, that you’ll have 100 yards to park this vehicle in the middle of nowhere with your children in the back seat.
This isn’t some fantastical scenario. This is what will happen if this is implemented.
And this is the law. I have read it to you here. Now, you maybe should have read it two years ago when you all voted for it on that side of the aisle. But it was in a bill that was 1039 pages long. So I can understand how you don’t know what the law has in it. But I’ve read it to you.
Rep. Janice Schakowsky (D-IL) then speaks, evidently having heard none of what Rep. Massie just said:
More than 10,000 people die every year from drunk driving crashes. Drunk drivers are seven times more likely to be involved in a fatal crash than a sober person. So you would think that the Republicans would want to do something about it. Democrats have done something about it and said that NHTSA now will have drunk driver protection prevention technology.
You know, this this technology has the potential of saving thousands of lives. And I don’t see that you’re agreeing that we should be saving those lives. And I would say we should all vote against the Drunk Driver Protection Act [her sarcastic name for the Massie amendment], and I yield back.
And finally Massie, who as you’ll notice is the only one who doesn’t sound like he’s reading a fourth-grade book report:
Well, we actually don’t know how this technology is going to work. And they don’t know over at the DoD, either, because we’ve sent a letter to them that they haven’t responded to yet, asking them: will this have cameras inside the car? Will it monitor your eyes to see if you’re focused on the road? Will it have cameras on the outside of the car? How will it know what your performance is relative to the road that you’re driving on if it doesn’t in fact know which road you’re driving on?
Will it need to know where you are when you are driving? If so, who has access to this data? Who has access to those cameras? Will the Fourth Amendment be followed? Will you require a warrant for your insurance company to access this data? Will you require a warrant for the government to access this data once your car has been disabled and now you’re on the side of the road with your children in it for reasons you don’t understand? How long until the police show up? Or what if you truly are disabled and you’re over to the side of the road? Does anybody show up? How long do you have to get out of the vehicle? Who decides when your vehicle kill switch is disabled and you get to drive again? Who’s going to adjudicate that on the side of the road?
What if it’s rush-hour traffic? What if you know you’ve already got points against you according to your dashboard, and it’s monitored your performance, and now there’s somebody’s pet in the road, do you swerve to miss it and get your car disabled? What if there’s an emergency vehicle approaching from behind you, and you know, the right thing is to swerve off the road and let that vehicle pass? After you’ve done that three times and now your car says, do it one more time and we’re going to leave you on the side of the road?
This is in the law. This will become law in 2026. Every vehicle manufactured after that. And it’s not about drunk driving. If it were, it would just be about blood alcohol content. This law has far more than that in it. It violates the Fourth Amendment. It violates so many amendments. It violates things that are so fundamental to our rights that they’re not even in the Constitution, like the right to travel. And so I urge support of this amendment. It will defund the law that was passed two years ago, that the other side of the aisle doesn’t even know exists.
It’s an open-and-shut case, yet all the Democrats and 19 Republicans voted to keep the kill switch.
The rate at which things are getting crazier is truly out of control.
So when I say I’m having a meeting on protecting your privacy, understand that we’re protecting it from complete sociopaths.
Privacy concerns aren’t something that only weirdos care about. It’s not a niche issue. It’s for every last one of us.
The data gathering by Big Brother and Big Tech is not something unavoidable that we have to reconcile ourselves to, or that you have to be a tech whiz to fight against. We’re going to talk about simple actions anyone can take to stymie the bad guys. Register right now to join us, because it’s happening tomorrow:
https://www.tomwoods.com/privacy
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Tred- Thomas Massie would make for an excellent write-in vote. I’ve never seen him kissing the wall.
I don’t think Justin Amash was a wall ass kisser either. I suppose the joos were eventually successful in running him off. Supposedly Amash was described as an Arab Christian. Explains that , what joos do to Christians.
Side note: Amash voted against the reauthorization of the Patriot Act.
tex,
i liked amash until he became a never trumper —
as i understand it,amash’s family had an import biz & when trump put tariffs on china it hurt his pocketbook so he split from trump —
go away,justin —
bl,
i would love massie as potus ,speaker,somewhere that he would have real power but it will not happen – write in vote,no way,i will hold my nose & vote 4 the lessor of 2 evils —
Ummm there is only one party….the uni party need proof? Just look at the Republicans goat rope to elect a speaker of the house. Need more proof? Okay, Tlaib gets censured by the house for calling out Israel on the massacre of women and children in Gaza. She is a Palestinian!!! So much for opposing opinions in Congress. Meanwhile Schiff lies, practically commits Treason and he gets to run for Senate. As for anyone who thinks what is going on is Gaza is justified because of the innocents Hamas killed. A wiseman once told me two wrongs do not make a right. And no, I will not pick a side I just want the killing to stop, as any sane person would.