FOURTH TURNING – THE SHADOW OF CRISIS HAS NOT PASSED – PART THREE

In Part One of this article I attempted to illuminate the concept of generational theory as articulated by Strauss and Howe in The Fourth Turning.  In Part Two I provided proof this Crisis is far from over, with ever increasing debt, civic decay and global disorder propelling the world towards war.

Seeds of Crisis & War

“The seasons of time offer no guarantees. For modern societies, no less than for all forms of life, transformative change is discontinuous. For what seems an eternity, history goes nowhere – and then it suddenly flings us forward across some vast chaos that defies any mortal effort to plan our way there. The Fourth Turning will try our souls – and the saecular rhythm tells us that much will depend on how we face up to that trial. The saeculum does not reveal whether the story will have a happy ending, but it does tell us how and when our choices will make a difference.”  – Strauss & Howe – The Fourth Turning

When you accept the fact history is cyclical and continuous linear progress is not what transpires in the real world, you free yourself from the mental debilitation of normalcy bias and cognitive dissonance. Things do get worse. There are dark periods of history and they recur on a regular cycle. And we are in the midst of one of those dark periods. This Crisis will not be resolved without much pain, sacrifice, bloodshed, and ultimately war. Catastrophe is a strong possibility. The core elements of this Crisis – debt, civic decay, global disorder – are coalescing into a perfect storm which will rage for the next ten to fifteen years. The rhythms of history only provide a guidepost of timing, while the specific events and outcomes are unknowable in advance. The regeneracy of society into a cohesive, unified community, supporting the government in a collective effort to solve society’s most fundamental problems seems to have been delayed. Or has it?

Maybe the answer can be found in the resolution of the last Fourth Turning. The seeds of the next crisis are always planted during the climax of the previous crisis, when the new social order is established. The American Revolution Crisis created a new nation, but left unresolved the issue of slavery. This seed grew to become the catalyst for the Civil War Crisis. The resolution of the Civil War Crisis greatly enhanced the power of the central government, while reducing the influence of the States. The rise of central authority led to the creation of the Federal Reserve, the implementation of income taxes to fund a vastly larger Federal government and the belief among the political class that America should intervene militarily in the affairs of other countries. The Great Depression was created by the monetary policies of the Federal Reserve; the New Deal programs were a further expansion of Federal government; FDR outlawed the ownership of gold; and America’s subsequent involvement in World War II created a military and economic superpower.

After sixty-two years of ever increasing debt; ever increasing taxes to support an ever growing governmental bureaucracy; ever expanding laws, regulations, and rules; currency debasement by the Federal Reserve; complete abandonment of the gold standard; and never ending wars of choice around the world, the next Crisis grew and blossomed from the seeds planted during the previous Crisis. The New Deal social programs, along with the extension of the welfare state by LBJ and subsequent administrations, have swelled to unprecedented unsustainable levels with unfunded liabilities exceeding $200 trillion. The promises cannot be fulfilled. The $18 trillion national debt increases by $2.3 billion per day; $96 million per hour; $1.6 million per minute; $27,000 per second. Does that sound sustainable? The legacy media sycophants cheer when consumer debt outstanding surges past $3.3 trillion, as their warped worldview applauds spending versus saving, consuming versus investing, and living for today rather than striving for a sustainable future.

The American people have lost their ability to think, reason, question, do math, control their urges, defer gratification, or realize when they are being lied to by the people they elected to public office. A culture of ignorance, celebration of the absurd, salutation of stupidity, honoring of the inane, being mesmerized by electronic gadgets, and satiating their egocentric shallow impulses on social media, is a sure recipe for societal collapse. Victory in World War II and becoming a modern day empire created the dynamic Eisenhower warned about. An immense military industrial complex has created enemies around the globe in order to keep the profits flowing in this welfare/warfare empire of debt. War is a racket for the rich. The peasants who buy into the incessant patriotic propaganda and volunteer are nothing but cannon fodder for the .1%. Keeping the masses fearful of phantom enemies and portraying foreign leaders as evil, is essential for the oligarchs to retain their wealth, power and control. Truth, facts, and long-term consequences are of no interest to the sociopaths running the show and pulling the levers. The dissent into darkness has been gradual and unnoticed by a purposefully distracted populace.

“As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances, there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be most aware of change in the air – however slight – lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness.” Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas

What I’ve begun to realize about Fourth Turnings is how slow and methodical they are in reality. They will play out over twenty years at a pace dictated by events and the actions of the major players. I had been looking for a regeneracy event that would unify the country behind one leader. It is not to be. Since Fourth Turnings are driven by mood changes amongst the generational cohorts, the changes are subtle, incremental and not visible as identifiable events. Looking back in history, the election of FDR and the rollout of his New Deal policies began the regeneracy of the nation, but did not create unity or solve the economic problems of the country. There was an actual plot by prominent businessmen to conduct a coup and overthrow the government. A large contingent of the population did not support the New Deal or our entry into World War II.

The first battle of Bull Run and the subsequent mobilization of a half million more men by Lincoln marked the beginning of the regeneracy during the Civil War Crisis. It certainly did not unify the nation or even the North. It just marked the point where there would be no turning back or compromise. There were draft riots in New York City in 1863 and Lincoln thought he would lose the 1864 election. The Declaration of Independence and mobilization of an army in 1776 marked the regeneracy during the Revolutionary Crisis period, but did not unify the colonies or colonists into a cohesive unit. The Revolution was piloted by a minority of freedom minded colonists, while the majority remained neutral or obedient to the Crown.

I now believe the focus of this Fourth Turning will be the conflict between the government and its supporters, and those who oppose the welfare/warfare surveillance state controlled by Wall Street vested interests. The overbearing, militarized, captured Federal government has treated citizens like suspects since 2001. Those in the highest echelons of wealth and power have captured the three branches of government (executive, legislative, judicial) and are ruthlessly ransacking the remaining wealth of the nation. Their unquenchable desire for more wealth and power has never been more blatantly obvious than in the aftermath of the 2008 financial collapse created by their derivative orgy of debt which blew up in their faces.

All the “solutions” implemented since 2008 (TARP, ZIRP, QE1, QE2, QE3, $800 billion stimulus plan, government takeover of student loans, subprime auto loan bonanza, waging wars of choice, doubling of food stamp households, and the Wall Street foreclosure/buy/rent scheme) have been designed to benefit the vested interests in this corporate fascist authoritarian regime. The average person has been left nearly destitute, unemployed or underemployed, bereft of savings, stuck with declining real household income, and left with political candidates hand-picked and bought off by the men running the show behind the curtain. The mood of the country has darkened significantly since 2008 and will darken further when the bubbles in stocks, bonds and real estate, created by the “solutions”, pop simultaneous in the near future.

The wave of dismay, disillusionment and blinding rage that will sweep across the land will mark the next phase of this Fourth Turning. The mistrust and cynicism toward government and politicians has already reached historic highs. Congressional approval levels reached 56% in 2001 and have been in a downward spiral since, with a plunge to single digits since the 2008 Crisis began. The number of people classifying themselves as independents reached an all-time high of 47% in 2014, up from 27% in 2006. An awakening minority now realize Democrats and Republicans are nothing but brands appealing to liberals or conservatives, but representing the ruling Party and beholden to Wall Street, the military industrial complex, mega-corporations, and not the American people.

As trust in the political, economic and financial systems implodes, the existing social order will crumble and be swept away in a torrent of chaos and upheaval. Severe misery will settle on our land and tear the fabric of our society. Internal strife will be compounded by external threats, with citizens fighting each other and nations going to war on a large scale. It has happened before and it will happen again. The realization this Crisis would be driven by the conflict between government and the people occurred to me in 2013 when Edward Snowden revealed the depth and depravity of a government which believes it to not be bound by the constraints of the Constitution, laws, regulations, or human decency.

The political class, along with the government apparatchiks, protected by their propaganda mouthpieces in the media, used the 9/11 attack as the basis to implement command, control and surveillance measures which make Orwell’s Big Brother seem like amateur hour. The hyperbolic level of propaganda in support of the vested interests is actually a sign of weakness, as their grip on the masses is weakening rapidly. Chris Hedges explains Washington as it functions today:

“Washington has become our Versailles. We are ruled, entertained, and informed by courtiers — and the media has evolved into a class of courtiers. The Democrats, like the Republicans, are mostly courtiers. Our pundits and experts, at least those with prominent public platforms, are courtiers. We are captivated by the hollow stagecraft of political theater as we are ruthlessly stripped of power. It is smoke and mirrors, tricks and con games, and the purpose behind it is deception.

The mass media blindly support the ideology of corporate capitalism. They laud and promote the myth of American democracy—even as we are stripped of civil liberties and money replaces the vote. They pay deference to the leaders on Wall Street and in Washington, no matter how perfidious their crimes. They slavishly venerate the military and law enforcement in the name of patriotism.

They select the specialists and experts, almost always drawn from the centers of power, to interpret reality and explain policy. They usually rely on press releases, written by corporations, for their news. And they fill most of their news holes with celebrity gossip, lifestyle stories, sports and trivia. The role of the mass media is to entertain or to parrot official propaganda to the masses.

It plays an essential role in the dissemination of official propaganda. But to effectively disseminate state propaganda the press must maintain the fiction of independence and integrity. It must hide its true intentions.”


It isn’t hard to connect the dots if you choose to open your eyes and not be blinded by normalcy bias or the nationalist propaganda spewed by the mass media. Snowden’s revelations of an NSA global surveillance network spying on U.S. and foreign citizens and approved by the highest levels of government should have caused outrage and mass protests.  Instead, the media propaganda arm portrayed Snowden as a traitor and spy. Snowden revealed that the NSA was harvesting millions of email and instant messaging contact lists, searching email content, tracking and mapping the location of cell phones, undermining attempts at encryption via Bullrun,  and the agency was using cookies to “piggyback” on the same tools used by internet advertisers to pinpoint targets for government hacking and to bolster surveillance.

The NSA was shown to be “secretly” tapping into Yahoo and Google data centers to collect information from hundreds of millions of account holders worldwide by tapping undersea cables using the MUSCULAR surveillance program.  The NSA’s top-secret “black budget,” obtained from Snowden by The Washington Post, exposed the “successes and failures” of the 16 spy agencies comprising the U.S. intelligence community, and revealed that the NSA was paying U.S. tech companies such as Apple, Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Verizon, and AT&T for “clandestine access” to their communications networks. Every electronic communication of every American is being collected by the government to be used at their discretion. It will be used against you when the time is right.

What kind of government clandestinely spies on its citizens; militarizes local police forces; conducts military training operations in major cities; wires its streets and highways with surveillance cameras; disperses peaceful protestors with water cannons, tear gas, pepper spray, and rubber bullets; and treats the U.S. Constitution like toilet paper? An authoritarian regime treats its people like this. Authoritarian regimes treat everyone like a potential enemy. They trust no one. Those in power care only for themselves and their lackeys.

The extreme wealth inequality created by dishonest means is leading towards strife and a systematic breakdown. Our entire system is built on lies, monetary machinations, propaganda and strict obedience to a vast array of laws, regulations and mandates. The ruling elite are desperate to keep their despotic bacchanal empire of debt from disintegrating in a catastrophic apocalypse of derivative time bombs, bank failures, corporate bankruptcies, and denial of their guilt. They recognize the consequences they face when the music stops. When people realize their money system is a fraud they’ll lose faith in all the institutions that make up a civilized society. Trust in politicians, corporate leaders, bankers, institutions, the media, parents, neighbors, and ourselves will evaporate in an instant. The anger and pursuit of those responsible will result in governmental collapse and domestic anarchy. The guilty and innocent alike will die.

Those in power are preparing for war – against you. Executive orders already in place, when executed, give the executive branch the ability to lockdown the country the same way they locked down Boston while bumbling about trying to capture two teenage kitchen utensil bombers. There are two things the ruling class fear the most – the internet and the approximately 300 million guns owned by citizens in 50 million households. The State, through the FCC, wants to “regulate” the internet to “protect” people from being told something other than what the State wants them to hear.

That First Amendment, with its free speech and freedom of assembly, is dreadfully inconvenient for the oligarchs. Truth and dissent will not be tolerated. Every mass shooting incident, caused by the shooters being pumped full of anti-psychotic prescription drugs, is used as an excuse to disarm the public. The Second Amendment right to bear arms makes it more difficult for government thugs to ignore the Fourth Amendment when they kick your door down during an illegal search and seizure operation. An armed populace is our only defense against the tyranny of a draconian government bent on retaining its stranglehold on the country.

After the 2008 financial collapse the guilty were not punished, prosecuted nor reproached for their criminally destructive schemes to loot the American people and the world. Instead they were bailed out, allowed to retain their wealth and power, and rewarded for their misdeeds with further riches provided by their politician puppets in Washington D.C. Evil won. The masses were frightened into keeping silent and believing bankers, politicians, and government bureaucrats had saved their world of bread (debt based consumption) and circuses (iGadgets & HDTVs). Ultimately, this Fourth Turning Crisis will come down to a battle between good and evil. It would be easy if the evil people revealed themselves and the good people could destroy them, but evil and good exist within all human beings.

As witnessed in previous Fourth Turnings, the majority will sit idly by paralyzed by fear or apathy. Most people wait to be led. But, as Samuel Adams profoundly noted:

“It does not take a majority to prevail … but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.”

The Federal and State government directly employs over 20 million Americans and millions more indirectly through their largess to arms dealers and other crony capitalist corporate entities. Over 145 million Americans receive a check of some sort from the Federal government every month, with over 100 million enrolled in a government welfare program. It is unlikely that many of these people will rise up against the government, unless their checks stop flowing (a distinct possibility). Every instance of governmental overreach, corruption, malfeasance, un-Constitutional act or ineptitude tips the scale further towards more people waking up and resisting. I believe the good in most people’s hearts outweighs the evil. Once a tipping point is reached and enough people defy the government, an avalanche of consequences will sweep away the existing social order. Justice for unborn generations will be sought. Keeping silent only allows the evil to grow ever more formidable and entrenched.

“In keeping silent about evil, in burying it so deep within us that no sign of it appears on the surface, we are implanting it, and it will rise up a thousand fold in the future. When we neither punish nor reproach evildoers, we are not simply protecting their trivial old age, we are thereby ripping the foundations of justice from beneath new generations.” – Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956

In Part Four of this article I will focus on the drumbeats of war getting louder on a daily basis. Fourth Turnings always climax with war on a grand scale. There will be no escape.

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IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
February 12, 2015 7:45 am

Stucky wondered if Fourth Turnings are inevitable? Absolutely! We have short memories.

Not to pick on Clammy but we’ve all heard her completely disavow anything and everything any of us have tried to tell her even while we point out that she is making the exact same mistakes many of us already made years ago. Each generation does that to some extent because their generation or situation is perceived to be “different” and none of the old fuckers understand. On top of that, Clammy’s life experience up to this point is so far removed from the experiences of those 80-90 years ago that she can have no frame of reference for what they went through even though they are the same things she is about to experience. We don’t learn from our mistakes because those of us alive today did not make those same mistakes…….yet.

Another thing that dooms us to a lather-rinse-repeat cycle is that as parents we generally want to make things better or easier for our kids especially if we had it rough. While understandable, that is flawed thinking IMO. I don’t think we should intentionally make our children’s lives rough, but at the same time I don’t think we should be making their lives easier. Maybe if each generation shared the same types of hardships with their offspring we could break the cycle.

99.9999% of humans rarely ever think beyond their own lifetimes. We think about getting our own little piece of the pie and maybe a little piece of pie for the kids but even that usually amounts to some miniscule monetary inheritance meant for college or something like that.

The REAL owners of this world think in terms of building generational wealth. The Warburg’s and Rothchild’s alive today are planning for their great-great grandchildren and beyond. This started centuries ago and continues today. I gotta hand it to them…….they dreamed of owning governments, countries, continents and even the entire world despite the fact that they would never live to see their efforts come to fruition. However, in addition to building and leaving wealth to their descendents, they left plans and strategies behind and instilled them in their own children’s lives so they could do the same.

Imagine if your ancestors had done the same for you? I don’t mean just leave you a pile of cash to piss away on hookers and blow but instill a desire and plan into you and your siblings to build real, lasting wealth with a goal towards benefiting not just your family but the world in good way instead of the evil, power hungry ways of the current oligarchs. If all of us thought and acted in terms of generational wealth instead of me, me, me, we would never find ourselves in messes like this.

Thanks to the evils of central banking we are all raised to believe in what we all now realize was unsustainable from the beginning. In the process we pissed away all of our wealth, values, skills and intelligence chasing an illusion fueled by debt. The illusion makes it easy to forget what is really important. As a bonus we get to consume all our resources and damage the only environment we have.

It seems to me though that every four, full generations adds to the world population in numbers far greater than those that die off. I’m not sure the planet can withstand another four, full generations. Maybe this will be the last fourth turning?

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
February 12, 2015 8:06 am

Admin,

Does Neil Howe know about your work? I know that Strauss has gone on to his own personal fourth turning, but Howe looks like he’s still got skin in the game and I bet he’d be impressed with what you’ve done to expand upon it.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
February 12, 2015 8:08 am

Damn admin, if part four is any better than the first three parts I might pee my pants just a little!

As flash said, I think this is your best ever and I haven’t even seen how it ends! I really envy your command of the subject and flawless skill at writing about it.

If I still believed in such things, I’d suggest we all send this to our…cough, cough………elected leaders…cough.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
February 12, 2015 8:12 am

Yeah, what Hardscrabble Farmer said!

flash
flash
February 12, 2015 8:28 am

admin , no worries about Ruskies or Chanks. Obaminators got dis’

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flash
flash
February 12, 2015 8:40 am

“The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can ‘throw the rascals out’ at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy” (Georgetown University Professor Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope, 1966.)

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Desertrat
Desertrat
February 12, 2015 8:58 am

“The realization this Crisis would be driven by the conflict between government and the people occurred to me in 2013 when Edward Snowden revealed the depth and depravity of a government which believes it to not be bound by the constraints of the Constitution, laws, regulations, or human decency.”

For me, the abuse of RICO, the idea of “arrest the money” and then learning of Echelon ended any trust I might have had in government. Already being an adult when LBJ did his Great Society nonsense was instrumental in sowing the seeds of suspicion. Call it the advantage of being a reasonably observant Olde Phart.

Great series. An excellent summary and analysis of events of recent history.

dc.sunsets
dc.sunsets
February 12, 2015 9:27 am

This part of the article misses a central point: Almost EVERYONE who works now is getting paid, directly or indirectly, through the Central State.

Nurses? Doctors? Insurance co. employees? People who work for pharmaceutical and medical companies, pharmacists, Raytheon, Lockheed/Martin, etc.? ALL work for Uncle; if Uncle stopped paying Uncle’s bills, 90% of those jobs would disappear immediately.

The USA is the largest economy on the planet that is purportedly “free” but is in actuality nearly fully socialized, (or better, Corporatized along the lines of Mussolini’s Fascist system where profits belong to the firm but losses are dumped on the collective.)

When the Debt-fueled corporatist system can borrow no more (because borrowing does not solve solvency problems, as JQ notes), the collapse in the economy must be truly epic.

For 50 years people have entered occupations and become embedded in a consumer-debt-based economy all based on false signals. How much “medical care” can actually be sustained without debt growth? How much higher-ed, or F-35 programs?

The can has been kicked so far because EVERYONE knows (deep down) that when the music stops, the FLOOR drops out from under their feet. It’s not about finding a chair in which to sit, it’s about dancing on the 95th floor of a castle in the sky, and knowing that when the music stops, a long fall with a sudden stop is next.

Stucky
Stucky
February 12, 2015 9:37 am

Goddammit. WHERE’S PART FOUR???!!!

:mrgreen:

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
February 12, 2015 9:55 am

The further we get from 9/11 the more I start to see the symbolism of that event as a harbinger of what portends. Whatever you believe happened, whomever you might think is behind it, one thing is absolutely certain, no one, not one single individual prior to that day could have ever predicted the way that something so solid in appearance (the Towers/Pentagon/US Security/Intelligence) could be brought to complete and utter ruin because of a single outside cause. NO. ONE.

Looking back on history there are all these symbolic events that are always refered to as “catalyzing” or “precursors” to what follows. It almost gives credence to the Illuminatti type conspiracy where they- whomever they bare- must show their hand as some type of binding agreement for whatever plans they have to come to fruition. It could just as easily be Divine or even satanic, or even as the Greek guy with the crazy hair says, “It could be aliens!”.

When the music stops- and stop it will- the aftermath will be as catastrophic as the symbolic collapse of the Towers- World Trade, for God’s sake- and it will implode into rubble with the same speed and ‘shock and awe’ witnessed that day. The sad part, to me, is that it isn’t really that difficult to see what’s coming if you want to, butn worse that there simply isn’t anything that can or could be done to prevent it. It is a natural, completely expected phenomenon that will take place no matter what is done on any level.

Did I mention that this is really a great essay? Wow.

Lurker
Lurker
February 12, 2015 10:00 am

Yesterday I visited the local mall in my area. Seven-eight stores were closed or closing: Gymboree, J.C. Collins, ColdWater, Ruum, Delias, Deb’s, and one-two others I forgot the names of. Yep, economic recovery here folks, can’t wait for the bright forecast for the rest of 2015.

bluestem
bluestem
February 12, 2015 10:07 am

Patience Stucky, patience, John

Rise Up
Rise Up
February 12, 2015 10:43 am

“I recall the FDIC was damn near broke. They’re supposed to be funded by deposits and they were waaaay short.”

Below is a chart of FDIC insurance funds compared to actual deposits (~$25B at FDIC vs. $9.2T in actuals):
(Stucky, if this image appears too large, please advise on how I can see how big it is before posting.)

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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-19/us-deposits-perspective-25-billion-insurance-9283-billion-deposits-297514-billion-de

Stucky
Stucky
February 12, 2015 10:59 am

(Stucky, if this image appears too large, please advise on how I can see how big it is before posting.) ——- Rise Up

1. When you hover over an image search result, you should see two numbers. For example, 300 x 400, The first number is how many pixels wide it is, the second is the length.

Length generally doesn’t matter. (I’ve been telling Ms Freud that for years.)

Width does. On WordPress here on TBP, the widest a picture can be before it overflows is 585.

2. Another way to see the dimensions; right click on the pic, on the menu that pops up find and click on “View Image Info” …. you’ll see Location, Type, Size, Dimensions. Again, look at Dimensions where the first number is 585, or less.

Rise Up
Rise Up
February 12, 2015 11:16 am

Stuck, thanks–I knew how to get the image’s size, just didn’t know what fits in WordPress.

…and I bet Ms.Freud still doesn’t believe you.

Lysander
Lysander
February 12, 2015 11:38 am

Thank you for these articles, I really appreciate all the work you did on them, as well as the effort of running this site.

This cycle of history will play out as it will, despite encouragement from those of us who, like myself, would rather it happened sooner than later. My torment is watching my beautiful country slowly descend into Hell, much like watching a loved one become ill and die of some terrible disease.

Stucky
Stucky
February 12, 2015 11:39 am

She calls me BLS-Dick …. cuz of the way I inflate the numbers.

Rise Up
Rise Up
February 12, 2015 11:55 am

“I now believe the focus of this Fourth Turning will be the conflict between the government and its supporters, and those who oppose the welfare/warfare surveillance state controlled by Wall Street vested interests.”

We can only surmise, as did Strauss/Howe, on what the catalyst for this conflict will be. Whatever it will be, it’s gonna have to be something that ignites–with a huge impact–the “opposition” alluded to above. Another civil war, with 3 or more factions? Can the country survive such a tragedy?

Someone recommended the book “A Failure of Civility”. Having read some prep guides by James Wesley Rawles (of the “Patriots” series novels), I looked into “Civility” and Amazon had top reviews of it, so I ordered it. Probably an excercise in futility, as I live in the suburbs, but the book is supposed to be geared to that environment. To really steel myself for this possible outcome, I need to read some first-hand accounts of people who survived the Bosnian and south American civil wars and strife. I did view that recent video of the Ukranian attack on the airport and the horrific pictures of the poor soul who had his brains lying next to his head in the back of that truck. Somehow I didn’t puke, but hell, that was only a still picture…seeing it in person or as it happened is another matter.

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
February 12, 2015 11:59 am

“On top of that, Clammy’s life experience up to this point is so far removed from the experiences of those 80-90 years ago that she can have no frame of reference for what they went through even though they are the same things she is about to experience. ”

Not to snark and sneer at you, but I have divulged very little about my life in my writing.

Sensetti
Sensetti
February 12, 2015 12:09 pm

HS says: The sad part, to me, is that it isn’t really that difficult to see what’s coming if you want to, butn worse that there simply isn’t anything that can or could be done to prevent it.

HS what’s amazing to me is people see it coming and don’t change a damn thing, that’s more asinine than the people that walk around with their head up their ass. The argument I attempted to make is people beat their chest about cops up arming, the Government spying etc, etc, all bad yes, but that’s not what’s gonna kill them. In a collapse situation the clear and present danger will be the citizens surrounding them. Why people can’t see that is beyond me. No it’s not, I know the reason. Normalcy Bias, they want to think law and order will hold, they don’t want to rearrange their lives and put themselves in a position to come out the other side. There’s going to be plenty of smart educated people who were in the know about the coming collapse that will be consumed in the first days of SHTF.
You cannot prevent the comming collapse but you can survive it.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
February 12, 2015 12:20 pm

Clam

You say that you have divulged very little about your life. That is because you can’t stop whining long enough. Here is a clue about how to do things for yourself.

I know a young fellow that started a business in the summer before he started his first year of college. He hired himself 4 Mexicans to do lawn/ landscape work. While that boy sits in class, his employees are earning him a living. He has been in business for two years now, not bad for a Gen Z, so seriously get a clue.

That young man’s father is a builder and a real go-getter and I’m sure he rubbed of on his son.

Stucky
Stucky
February 12, 2015 12:29 pm

Sensetti

Excellent points about one’s vampire neighbor being the correct entity to fear.

Regarding why people won’t/don’t/can’t prepare I’d like to add one other item; doom fatigue.

For example, I was fairly certain that the Y2K would have terrible consequences, at least for 6 months to a year. So, I prepped. Stored hundreds of gallons of water, six months food supply, and other stuff. Well, that was a dud.

I was convinced, and firmly so, that Jesus would return in my lifetime … also around the year 2000, and lived accordingly …. in ways to embarrassing to recount. That was a dud.

Then there are all those doom and gloom books I’ve been reading since the 1980s starting with The Population Bomb and we’re SOON ALL GOING TO DIE!!

And the MSM loves doom; ice age … no, global warming … end of oil … fluoride …. end of tuna … oceans are depleted … bees are dying …. soil devoid of minerals …. on and on and on and on and on …

A common and natural response (even if it’s wrong) at some point is just to say “FUCKIT, I’ll take my chances if it ever happens.”

Stucky
Stucky
February 12, 2015 12:34 pm

“That is because you can’t stop whining long enough.” —– Bea Lever

Oh, C’mon! Giver her a break. She has done a LOT less “whining” than before, and contributing much better content. If I would get the abuse she gets here, I would have left a long time ago.

Besides, who here doesn’t whine? Oh, errr, excuse me …. “complain” …. “have concerns” …. “is unhappy”.

Sensetti
Sensetti
February 12, 2015 12:56 pm

T4C don’t you know it was painful just getting to the ED with a pitchfork in your ass. I bet they hit him with Dilaudid at first site. Ouch.

lios
lios
February 12, 2015 1:06 pm

You have made your point very clearly.!|

Sensetti
Sensetti
February 12, 2015 1:16 pm

T4C it looks like a mad farmers wife injury too me.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
February 12, 2015 1:26 pm

T4C

Please provide a food and beverage warning before posting painful shit like this during lunchtime.

That dude’s ass is in a serious hurtlocker. All things considered, that is to good for what needs to be done to the banksters.

jonathan
jonathan
February 12, 2015 2:38 pm

Great article on the cycles of history.Added to this,they are saying this is also a Shmita year(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shmita).Why does the organized criminal cabal destroy our history?If you don’t know prepare to circle ad infinitum..A little note on the civil war.After 1865, remnants of the South engaged in guerrilla warfare until around 1922,when in a little town of Alabama? they realized it ain’t going to happen.The civil war ended.For more info on the USA,et al Amerika, some links.(

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
February 12, 2015 4:24 pm

Clamster, don’t get your panties in a bunch, I could have said the same about anyone your age and been right unless you are really 90 and lived through the Great Depression.

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
February 12, 2015 8:56 pm

Times are worst now, they didn’t bail out Wall Street during the great depression.

RRR
RRR
February 12, 2015 9:13 pm

Humans are colorful, creative and imaginative… butt as a whole (and arse-a-hole)… they lack prescience and common sense. According to ‘Gold$tein’ (and Company): “The DNA is fatally flawed.”

Two things:

1. WHOM THE GODS WOULD DESTROY, THEY FIRST MAKE MAD(off).
2. WHERE THERE IS NO INSIGHT, THE PEOPLE PERISH. [img]

Dwain Dibley
Dwain Dibley
February 13, 2015 12:39 am

An attempt at a start to a solution can be found with state’s legislators:

The 17th is in violation of Article 5’s direct prohibition against such an amendment. An act that is in violation of the constitution from its inception, cannot amend the constitution to allow for that violation. And, the 17th does not amend Article 5.

” ~ an unconstitutional law, in legal contemplation, is as inoperative as if it had never been passed … An unconstitutional law is void.” – The legal encyclopedia American Jurisprudence

The only reason the 17th stands today is by consent given in ignorance. It’s time to educate the states’ legislators of their Article 5 protected, lawful right, to equal suffrage in their Senate.

It is time to press your state’s legislators into taking back their responsibility by repudiation of the unconstitutional 17th and taking back their Senate.

I would also suggest to them, during this educational process, that the enabling law they write in taking back their Senate include a stipulation that the person selected must be native born to their state and shall have served the people of the state with at least six years in elected state office. (No carpetbagger buy-ins allowed.)

Homer
Homer
February 15, 2015 4:05 pm

Admin—Stop Coddling us. Tell us like it is. I feel my doppelganger has written this. My comments in part two, fits into part three perfectly.

This is the best post so far. I can see so many people denying the truths, herein, and rationalizing them away. Denial, just isn’t a river in Egypt.

The internet is a pox on the face of the elite and I fear will not long be tolerated.

“God will change the consciousness of man”. I wonder if He’s using the internet to do it? hmmm The ways of God are mysterious, indeed.

Homer
Homer
February 15, 2015 4:36 pm

Dwain Dibley—The attempt to re-write the Constitution through treaties is to pull the wool over the peoples eyes. That treaties are equal to the Constitution maybe true in regard to compelling all the jurisdictions under the Constitution to recognize the status of treaties.

However, to suggest that treaties can be used to destroy the Constitution is fallacious. The child of a parent cannot displace the authority of the parent. That the child can abrogate the parent from whom it gets its sustenance is illogical. In other words, treaties cannot be used to change the Constitution, which gives validity to treaties. To think otherwise is rebellious and inimical to the meaning of the contract between the people and the government, which is the Constitution.

So, indeed, an unconstitutional treaty is indeed VOID. You should, all, remember this when those that would circumvent the Constitution thru treaties say that the treaty is now law as all treaties are equal to the Constitution. THEY ARE NOT! Treaties must be consistent with the Constitution. No exception.

Dwain Dibley
Dwain Dibley
February 15, 2015 5:07 pm

Treaties are subordinate to the Constitution, and what I’ve stated has nothing to do with treaties.

The 17th is an alleged Amendment to the Constitution which unlawfully stripped the state’s Article 5 protected right to equal suffrage in the Senate and gave it over to popular elections by the people.

El Siete
El Siete
February 15, 2015 5:16 pm

Stucky says: Regarding why people won’t/don’t/can’t prepare I’d like to add one other item; doom fatigue.

2 Thes 2:1-4 (NIV) Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we ask you, brothers, not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us, saying that the day of the Lord has already come. Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. He opposes and exalts himself above everything that is called God or is worshipped, and even sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

2 Thes 2:5,9-12,15 (NIV) Don’t you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these things? The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness… So then brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter.

Homer
Homer
February 15, 2015 5:26 pm

Hardscrabble Farmer–Nature ascribes to equilibrium. When things are out of balance, mans hubris in thinking that he can outwit Mother Nature aside, Mother Nature proves to be the compelling force.

I think that the Illuminate, if it is real, is busy pulling levers like the Wizard of Oz behind the curtain, not really grasping the consequences of its pulling and hoping for the best. I remember as a kid mixing two chemicals together with explosive results and not having a clue. My ears are still ringing. Kids must have a guardian angel looking after them or none would survive childhood.

When people embrace unreality because it is the norm and reality reasserts itself (the music stops). people are caught unaware. What comes out of it is the realization: “How could I have thought that?”

Ruff times are a commin’ .

Homer
Homer
February 15, 2015 5:35 pm

Dwain Dibley–I know. I was only trying to extrapolate on your thought–“an unconstitutional law, in legal contemplation, is as inoperative as if it had never been passed … An unconstitutional law is void.”

The latest jibe on the treaties is that they are equal to the Constitution. Which is why Agenda 21, Carbon Taxes Pacific Trade Agreement and Gun Control (think confiscation) among others is being introduced thru treaties.

Don’t take offense.

starfcker
starfcker
February 15, 2015 6:17 pm

Homer, I would recommend to anyone, study chrissy cuomo’s little hissy fit the other day when speaking to roy moore. He is a perfect liberal. He thinks law (untethered to morality) should reign supreme. Even when pressed, he can’t bear to challenge his basic assumption. He is defending the faith, at all costs.

Homer
Homer
February 15, 2015 9:33 pm

starfcker–YUP! We are a nation of laws, at least for the 99%. We will bind you by the chains of the Law, which we, the 1%, make of course so–“Resistance is futile.” You will be “assimilated” into the NWO.

Greece is saying, “No”.