FITTING ANNIVERSARY

The Boston Massacre happened 246 years ago today. Tensions were high in this country at that time, as the tyranny of the establishment pushed the people of this country beyond the breaking point. Anyone who doesn’t feel the same tension today is either part of the establishment or too ignorant to understand what is happening. This Fourth Turning has just reached the regeneracy stage, with Trump as the Grey Champion. Now it gets really interesting. There will be blood.


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nkit
nkit
March 5, 2016 4:53 pm

Would that I could have stricken an “s” for a “d”. I tried to hep it boss, but it was too late.

rhs jr
rhs jr
March 5, 2016 5:46 pm

I’ve been feeling it ever since I learned about TPTB’s Plan to destroy the world’s Goy and then Affirmative Action was the straw that broke this camels back; constantly rubbing my nose in a stinking pile of Liberalism for 50 years has set my resolve in Stone to fight back to Victory. Even if Trump blunders and falls momentarily from his charger but gets back up in the saddle to carry the anti-NWO banner, I’ll follow. The enemy is dirty and shrewd but I have served my country and pledged to defend the Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic; endured serving during one war against Communist and by God’s help we can send the Devil’s Legion of spawn to their Just Desserts.

Mike in CT
Mike in CT
March 5, 2016 7:08 pm

Admin…Sadly, Most R 2 Ignorant to understand…Mike in Ct

bb
bb
March 5, 2016 7:54 pm

Mike in Connecticut , explain yourself you gutless toad .

Rose
Rose
March 5, 2016 9:39 pm

This go ’round is worse than the first Revolution. At that time, the matchup was Tories versus Patriots.

This time it is a dual fronted war. The decent, productive Americans are stuck between the criminal elite on top and the parasitic mob below.

To win, we will need to pit the FSA mob against the elites and let the two parasite classes duke it out. We cannot win if we take on both fronts at once. If we try, the elites will use their money and technology to crush us while the FSA loots everything they can from us with the encouragement of the elites (pretty much what is going on now).

Best case scenario would be to withdraw our productive participation enough to create a disruption in taxes sufficient to trigger an entitlement crisis. Let the FSA riot in response and let the gov’t use up its hoard of bullets subduing the savage beasts. Let the snake eat itself, in other words, then cut off its head when it is worn out from its exertions.

An inferior force cannot win against a superior force unless it uses unconventional tactics. The Confederates, for example, were a superior fighters but lacked numbers. They chose to duke it out honorably on the battlefield, and it cost them dearly. They should have ditched the honor (a bit) and fought dirty. The northern cities were teeming with disaffected immigrants, mostly Famine Irish. If the South had been wise it should have sent agitators up north, spreading dissent and playing upon the miseries of the immigrants to incite class warfare and inflaming nativist passions to trigger ethnic warfare. They should have begun this before a shot was fired, once it became obvious that war was imminent. They could have triggered widespread civil unrest which would have vastly hampered the northern war effort (think the Draft Riots writ much larger), perhaps even kept the north from fighting at all.

Nobody ever said you had to kill a dragon by being a knight on a white charger. You just have to kill it.

Lysander
Lysander
March 5, 2016 9:43 pm

I witnessed the massacre at Waco and the Ruby Ridge debacle and I did nothing. I read about the hoax that was the OKC bombing and did nothing. Hell, I watched 9/11 on my teevee and read about the bullshit later on and I did nothing.

Neither did anybody else.

What would it take? What would it take to throw your current life completely away if you shoot some motherfucker? Are you alone? Part of a group? Are you going to know for sure when the party starts? Will you really?

I’ve asked myself these questions and got no reply. So I’ve waited. And waited. And waited. And got old.

The clever mofo’s in charge did it in slow motion. I see it in hindsight.

Fuck me.

Rose
Rose
March 5, 2016 9:57 pm

Lysander; those events were too easy to depict as crazy wackos, too easy to frame as the gov’t riding to the rescue to protect us from harm.

The events that work best at ginning up dissent are things like Obamacare. Things that expose masses of people to blatant graft and unfairness. That pisses them off in a way that something like Ruby Ridge never will because it directly affects their lives.

We didn’t fight the Revolutionary War over injustice done to a small group, we fought it over taxes. Taxes that affected a broad swath of people and universally pissed them off.

Things like Obamadoesn’tcare are fueling the anger behind Trump’s move forward. The gov’t was the aggressor in places like Waco and people didn’t get mad because it didn’t affect them. Things like Common Core and Obamadoesn’tcare and illegal immigration and trade deals DO affect them, and so they are getting riled.

Emboldened by its past successes, the gov’t will go on thinking that it can keep bullshitting and pulling the wool over our eyes. King George thought the same. Hubris did in the British and it will do in DC too.

I just hope there is a lot less blood this time, at least, the blood of good men and women. I couldn’t care less how much parasite blood gets spilled.

SSS
SSS
March 5, 2016 10:33 pm

John Adams (yeah, that John Adams) defended the 8 accused British soldiers involved in the Boston Massacre. 6 were found not guilty, and 2 were convicted of manslaughter. Their punishment was having their thumbs branded in public. You’re welcome.

TBP’s Official Historian,
SSS

SSS
SSS
March 5, 2016 10:42 pm

“The events that work best at ginning up dissent are things like Obamacare. Things that expose masses of people to blatant graft and unfairness. That pisses them off in a way that something like Ruby Ridge never will because it directly affects their lives.

We didn’t fight the Revolutionary War over injustice done to a small group, we fought it over taxes. Taxes that affected a broad swath of people and universally pissed them off.”
—-Rose

Best. Fucking. Comment. On. TBP. In. A. Long. Long. Time.

Rose
Rose
March 5, 2016 10:44 pm

Adams was very het up about maintaining justice and fairness, even if that meant bucking popular sentiment. A better man in that regard than most of his contemporaries, including Paul Revere, who created this engraving.

Notice how Revere depicts the mob as passive, shocked victims while the British are standing firmly, firing with calm precision into the crowd.

In reality the colonists were a howling mob of roughnecks and sailors throwing snowballs with rock cores and the British were disorganized and frightened.

Even the word massacre is propaganda: is it really a massacre when you fire upon a mob that is enraged, throwing things at you and threatening you with bodily harm?

The spin machine was alive and well even in those days.

Rose
Rose
March 5, 2016 10:46 pm

Thanks, SSS.

Praise from you is worth more than a whole platter of bacon:)

bb
bb
March 6, 2016 12:01 am

Children , Children , Children…. on Lord you of such little knowledge. Let’s go to the source

The colonies would have gladly borne the little tax on tea and other matters had it not been the poverty caused by the bad influence of the English Bankers on the parliament, which caused in the colonies hatred of England and the Revolutionary war. Benjamin Franklin.

According to Benjamin the reason for the Revolutionary war was to be Free from the Bank of England so the colonies could issue there own currency.Taxes had little to do with the decision to go to war according to Benjamin.

bb
bb
March 6, 2016 12:05 am

Forgot the praise and I don’t necessarily like bacon but I will take 50 bucks for this kind of information. That’s what I usually charge Stucky.

Stucky
Stucky
March 6, 2016 1:03 am

We didn’t fight the Revolutionary War over injustice done to a small group, we fought it over taxes. Taxes that affected a broad swath of people and universally pissed them off.”
—-Rose

Please explain “broad swath of people”. Did that include, for example, folks who lived in Georgia?

How universal was it? 100% 90% All classes of people … rich and poor … farmers and merchants and bankers?

Most importantly … WHY were they pissed off?

Sincere questions all, and I’d like your thoughts, Rose. Or, even you, SSS.

Brian
Brian
March 6, 2016 2:36 am

“Taxes that affected a broad swath of people and universally pissed them off.”

This is why I constantly rail on this subject. Since I began studying this topic and after many years of looking at tax protester arguments (most of which are utter drivel, but contain occasional stand alone jems) plus other research. I finally found the key to the deception. The medium of exchange is the key. The dollar. We are paying federal income tax, state income tax, social security tax, medicare tax, and the newly minted ZeroCare tax because of the form that “money” takes. This deception is eating at a minimum 7.65% of everyone’s pay, many people are paying upwards of 25-50% of their pay when all the income taxes are added up.

The founders setup Article 1 section 8, the powers of CONgress. The most important clause IMO is clause 8 and tangentially clause 2. Before ANY other powers granted to CONgress can be implemented you have to have a functional monetary system. When the money was created and issued based directly off these two clauses. The end user was protected from direct taxes on their labor/wages/time via the taxing clauses. It was recognized that the money in their pocket was an expression of their property (time) in a liquid tangible form.

The National banking act in the 1860’s and the SCOTUS case Veazie Bank v. Fenno (1869) opened the door to circumventing these traditionally held maxims. It cracked the door to the government getting their hands onto your paycheck.

The key sentence is: “Congress may restrain (tax), by suitable enactments (social security, medicare, zerocare, 26 USC), the circulation as money of any notes (federal reserve notes / bank credit) not issued under its own authority.” My notes in (**).

Enter the Federal Reserve System and the suspension all competing monies that were issued by CONgress via the Treasury. Leaving only token coinage as the last remaining constitutionally issued form of circulating money. This blew that previous door clear off its hinges. Federal Reserve Notes and Bank credit are a cancer that has killed off everything else. Leaving the end users (citizens) susceptible to suitable enactments to restrain (tax) the circulation of bank credit that was not issued from the Treasury. Without this restraint the federal reserve system would have inflated away into worthlessness decades ago. Taxing out of circulation bank credit is all that keeps the system from going pooof.

Unfortunately for us by using these fraudulent credits the government gets to tax our very substance. Your pay is a component of your time. Your time is your property. A tax on that is direct and unconstitutional. UNLESS you use notes that circulate AS money not issued by the Treasury. By doing that you convert what was a direct tax into an indirect tax (excise). It is considered a choice to use one form over the other. Just like it is a choice whether or not you want to pay cigarette or alcohol taxes. Don’t buy those items don’t pay the tax. Choice!

artbyjoe
artbyjoe
March 6, 2016 3:34 am

@ Rose
“We didn’t fight the Revolutionary War over injustice done to a small group, we fought it over taxes. Taxes that affected a broad swath of people and universally pissed them off. ”

actually that was the stated reason, but the real reason was because England had outlawed slavery and wanted the colonies to do the same. The PTB did not want that because they were getting rich off of it.

bb
bb
March 6, 2016 8:19 am

Children , one more time .Go to where the horse drinks the water. Meatheads

The refusal of King George to allow the colonies to operate an honest money system, which freed the ordinary man from the clulchs of the money manipulaters was the prime cause of the Revolutionary war…. Benjamin Franklin.

This is what’s wrong now .We don’t control our currency. We are at the mercy of the global bankers.( The modern money manipulaters.)

Ed
Ed
March 6, 2016 2:42 pm

“We don’t control our currency. ”

Currency is the problem. When there is no choice between currency and specie, there is no property right attached to the medium of exchange. Specie is portable property. Currency is bumwad. Currency fails as a medium of exchange where specie is in circulation.

Rose
Rose
March 6, 2016 3:20 pm

Stucky,

Sorry that this is so long but the whole thing was a hot mess not easily summarized. I’ve only touched upon it here. You could read about it for years and never really know it all.

It all began, as gov’t disasters typically do, with debt. Massive debt undertaken by England during the 7 years war (French and Indian War 1754-1763) with France. From Wikipedia: “The debt grew from £75,000,000 before the war to £122,600,000 in January 1763, and almost £130,000,000 by the beginning of 1764.”

The British felt that the Americans should help pay that debt since much of the fighting had taken place defending Britain’s American colonies. They conveniently forgot the fact that many Americans (Washington among them) had already supported the war effort with blood and treasure. Gov’ts tend to do that, especially when moneygrubbing moneylenders are involved.

They decided, as gov’ts always do, to enact taxes to pay for their wastefulness and stupid decisions.

As they were consumption taxes, the taxes were universal across economic classes and universally hated. The Stamp Act put a tax on a huge number of paper goods, everything from legal documents to playing cards and newspapers. The Townshend Acts placed taxes on lead, glass, paint, tea and other import items. The Sugar Act put taxes on sugar and molasses (this was put in place in a misguided attempt to mollify British Caribbean sugar producers looking to stop colonial trade with their lower priced Spanish and French counterparts. It ended up causing massive smuggling and almost shut down the rum trade). Not exactly a smart idea to close the Port of Boston (the Intolerable Acts, issued in response to the tea party) and also jack up the price of rum and tax playing cards…out of work sailors + taxes on their favorite vices= problems.

To make matters worse, the British soldiers sent to Boston to enforce the king’s orders were paid a pittance and their rations were scanty. Most of them were young men (and you know how much food young men can put away) and they were willing to work at almost anything that would throw money or food their way (chopping wood, working at ropewalks, digging gardens, you name it). So you have lower classes mad about taxes, and now soldiers are coming along and are willing to do the grunt work of the lower class in exchange for nothing but a plate of stew. Brings to mind the offshoring of lower class jobs and the hiring of illegals, huh? Volatile. A perfect hell broth for an agitator like Adams to use to his own ends.

As the British had also passed laws requiring the colonists to purchase their consumer products from British manufacturers and no other entity, there was little way around these taxes other than doing without or making do with homemade substitutes (like homespun cloth and bee balm/bergamot tea). The Currency Act of 1764 forbade the creation of colonial currencies, so they couldn’t exactly escape the British monetary system either. Rock and a hard place. The Proclamation of 1763 forbade settling west of the Appalachians and thus helped to blunt the relief valve of escape westward (the colonists went west anyways, though).

The colonists were tired of being treated as a red headed stepchild, good enough to feed the English economic engine but not good enough to have the same rights (namely, representation in the Parliament) that other Englishmen enjoyed.

It wasn’t that the colonists were opposed to taxes per se, they did pay local taxes to maintain roads, etc. what they didn’t like was that the king could levy taxes and they had no voice in the matter. In Great Britain, men who paid taxes (landowners) also got a vote. Women, children, indigents did not typically pay taxes and did not get to vote either. The men of the colonies saw that they were being reduced to the same social status as these “lesser” people and it did not go down well. Definitely tipped them off to how the king saw them. Unlike Britain, where most land was owned by a small handful of aristos, Americans, especially in New England, were landowners more often than not. Additionally, many of them, especially the wealthier and better educated colonials, had seen what Britain had wrought in Ireland and thought that might be beginning here.

And King George and Parliament were wily old devils. When all of their other efforts to tax failed (lead, glass, paint, stamps, you name it) they decided to focus on tea. They decided that they would fool the Americans. They allowed the British East India Company to sell tea at a bargain basement price WITH the tax rolled into the cost of the tea, not as an extra on top. They figured that the frugal colonists would snap up this deal and in the process, unwittingly pay the tax and thus acknowledge their right to tax. Brings to mind the taxes that aren’t called taxes like Social Security and the healthcare penalty, doesn’t it? That’s why we had the tea party: the tea had to go before anybody weakened at the cheap deal (like FREEEE healthcare, FREEE college, FREEEEE food) and gave the king the right to tax by consent. He already had the right (or at least, he thought he did) what he lacked was consent. The colonists wanted to ditch the tea before they felt the Bern.

It was a confluence of many things: the American elites like Washington resented being second class citizens. They felt that they were on the same levels as the British peerage and yet the peers treated them as lesser men (could this be a possible parallel to Trump feeling on the outs versus the DC insiders, their financial equal and yet not in the inner circle?). The middle class was mad about taxes because they considered themselves to be freeborn landowning Englishmen with the rights that accompany that status. And the lower class were mad partly about consumption taxes and partly because men like Sam Adams and Paul Revere were really good at riling them up. Just like Ferguson, the rabble of society are always ready for a good riot, perpetually pissed off at The Man and ready to go off at any target you give them. It’s kind of ironic, really, because those same non-landowning men would not have had the vote in England either, so the taxation without representation argument really doesn’t apply to the mob. Nobody ever said mobs are logical.

And behind it all was the fact that there was an ocean between Great Britain and America. Americans were used to living their own lives their own way. They had adapted their English ways (most of them were of British extraction) to a new world full of new challenges and new opportunities, like the widespread availability of land. The English had always been well aware of their rights as men: they gave us the Magna Carta and had a long traditon of asserting their grievances for redress. They’ve always been hardheaded and aware of their self worth. They are, after all, of Celtic, Viking (Normans) and Germanic stock, not exactly pansies. The American colonists were just carrying on a long English tradition. The difference versus less successful rebellions in Britain: distance, arms, and common land ownership/means of production.

Taxes were bad, but where it really went to hell was when the British came for the colonists’ gunpowder. They weren’t stupid, they knew that the only defense they had against total tyranny was their arms. The taxes were protested with a lot of talk, meetings, demonstrations and a tea party. Taking arms was protested by shedding blood.

History rhymes.

BTW: A really interesting book is Albion’s Seed by David Hackett Fischer. It explores the different English folkways prevalent in America’s regions (New England, Appalachia, the middle colonies and the South). Gives a really good look at how life differed in the different regions and how attitudes/beliefs did too. The colonies were hardly homogenous, which factored into how the Revolution played out.

Stucky
Stucky
March 6, 2016 4:26 pm

Rose

WOW! Good stuff.

I can’t believe I got three thumbs down for asking questions that genuinely interested me. We got some real assholes here sometimes. But, I’m glad you took the time and effort to explain it … I’m sure we all learned from your post (even the Debbie Downers a-holes).

Regarding the tea tax explanation I think you’re saying the same thing as this website?

“1. The Tea Party was not a protest against high taxes. The Boston Tea Party was certainly a tax protest, but it was not a protest against high taxes. In fact, it was sparked by a tax CUT, not a tax hike.”

http://www.taxhistory.org/thp/readings.nsf/ArtWeb/1BB0C8F894BB490B852577020083A6F6?OpenDocument

Interesting premise. One RARELY, if ever, thinks of the Tea Tax protest being the result of CHEAP tea!!

Again, thanks so much for the great info!!!!!!

Rose
Rose
March 6, 2016 8:07 pm

You’re welcome:)

Consider it a small repayment towards the debt owed for the knowledge you shared about cathedrals and other fascinating subjects.