THE FOURTH AMERICAN REVOLUTION (Featured Article)

The next Fourth Turning is due to begin shortly after the new millennium, midway through the Oh-Oh decade. Around the year 2005, a sudden spark will catalyze a Crisis mood. Remnants of the old social order will disintegrate. Political and economic trust will implode. Real hardship will beset the land, with severe distress that could involve questions of class, race, nation and empire. The very survival of the nation will feel at stake. Sometime before the year 2025, America will pass through a great gate in history, commensurate with the American Revolution, Civil War, and twin emergencies of the Great Depression and World War II. – The Fourth Turning – Strauss & Howe -1997

  

        Harpers Ferry – 1859                         Tucson – 2011

The mass murder in Tucson is another brick in the wall of this Fourth Turning Crisis. The importance of this tragic event is not what happened in that Safeway parking lot, but the reaction in the aftermath of the shooting. Turnings are not about specific events, but how generations react to the events based on their stages of life. A turning is an era with a characteristic social mood, a new twist on how people feel about themselves and their nation.  It results from the aging of the generational constellation.  A society enters a turning once every twenty years or so, when all living generations begin to enter their next phases of life. We entered this Fourth Turning between 2005 and 2008, with the collapse of the housing market and subsequent financial system implosion.

We have crossed the threshold into a decisive era of secular upheaval, when the values regime will propel the replacement of the old civic order with a new one.  The Silent Generation (1925-1942) is dying off, Baby Boomers (1943-1960) are entering elder hood, Generation X is entering midlife, Millenials are entering young adulthood—and a new generation of child Artists are being born. Strauss & Howe have documented that a long human life of 80 to 100 years makes up a social cycle of growth, maturation, entropy, and death (and rebirth) known as a Saeculum. Within each cycle, four generations proceed through their four stages of life. Every 15 to 25 years a new Turning surprises those who only think of history in a linear way. Strauss & Howe are historians who have been able to document this generational cycle going back to the 1400s.

The Anglo-American saeculum dates back to the waning of the Middle Ages in the middle of the fifteenth century.  In this lineage, there have been seven saecula:

  • Late Medieval (1435-1487)
  • Reformation (1487-1594)
  • New World (1594-1704)
  • Revolutionary (1704-1794)
  • Civil War (1794-1865)
  • Great Power (1866-1946)
  • Millennial (1946-2026?)

The Turnings of history are like the seasons of nature. Seasons cannot be rearranged, seasons cannot be avoided, but humans and nations can prepare for the challenges presented by each season. Winter has descended upon our nation.

We are still in the early stages of this Fourth Turning and the mood of the country continues to darken like the sky before an approaching blizzard. Generational theory does not predict the specific events that will happen during a Turning. The events, personalities, and policies that become the chapters in history books are not what drive a Turning, it is how each generation reacts to the events, personalities and policies. Someone who is 60 years old will react differently to an event than they would have reacted at 20 years old. The issues that are driving this Fourth Turning (un-payable entitlement obligations, Wall Street greed & power, globalization gutting the middle class, increasing government control, wealth distribution) were all known and understood in 1997. It took the spark of a housing market collapse and the generations being in proper alignment to catalyze the mood of the country.

Chapter one of this Fourth Turning is approaching its end. Chapter two guarantees to be more intense, with more violence, and periods of great danger. Strauss & Howe envisioned this chapter based upon their analysis of the issues looming back in 1997:

The risk of catastrophe will be very high. The nation could erupt into insurrection or civil violence, crack up geographically, or succumb to authoritarian rule. If there is a war, it is likely to be one of maximum risk and effort – in other words, a total war. Every Fourth Turning has registered an upward ratchet in the technology of destruction, and in mankind’s willingness to use it. Thus, might the next Fourth Turning end in apocalypse – or glory. The nation could be ruined, its democracy destroyed, and millions of people scattered or killed. Or America could enter a new golden age, triumphantly applying shared values to improve the human condition. The rhythms of history do not reveal the outcome of the coming Crisis; all they suggest is the timing and dimension. – The Fourth Turning – Strauss & Howe -1997

American Revolutions

“A Fourth Turning is a solstice era of maximum darkness, in which the supply of social order is still falling but the demand for order is now rising. As the community instinct regenerates, people resolve to do more than just relieve the symptoms of pending traumas. Intent on addressing root causes, they rediscover the value of unity, teamwork, and social discipline. Far more than before, people comply with authority, accept the need for public sacrifice, and shed anything extraneous to the survival needs of their community. This is a critical threshold: People either coalesce as a nation and culture – or rip hopelessly and permanently apart.”The Fourth Turning – Strauss & Howe -1997

 

  

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There have been three prior Fourth Turnings in U.S. history: the American Revolution, Civil War and Great Depression/World War II. The American Revolution preceded the Civil War by 87 years. The Great Depression followed the Civil War by 69 years and this Millenial Crisis arrived 76 years after the Great Stock Market Crash of 1929. Essentially, each prior Fourth Turning has represented a Revolution in American history.

The First American Revolution began in 1773 when Parliament’s response to the Boston Tea Party ignited a colonial tinderbox—leading directly to the first Continental Congress, the battle of Concord, and the Declaration of Independence. History always seems easy to predict in retrospect. This is another of the many faults in human thinking. There was very little talk or thought of the colonies breaking away from the mother country during the 1760s. Up until the Boston Tea Party catalyst event, no one could have predicted the events which would occur in a chain reaction over the next 21 years. There were dark cold bitter days during this Crisis winter. In the end, George Washington’s honor, courage and fortitude symbolized the character of a new nation.

Historians Charles and Mary Beard described the Civil War as the Second American Revolution.  The Civil War Crisis began with a presidential election that southerners interpreted as an invitation to secede. The attack on Fort Sumter triggered the most violent conflict ever fought on New World soil. The war reached its climax with the Emancipation Proclamation and Battle of Gettysburg (in 1863). The epic conflagration redefined America. The slavery issue was settled for good, signed in the blood of 600,000 men. The industrial might of the North was rechanneled toward progress as a world industrial powerhouse. In retrospect many will say the Civil War was entirely predictable, but that is completely untrue.

The great compromise generation (Henry Clay, John C. Calhoun, Daniel Webster) of the 1850s passed from the scene, leaving the country in the hands of firebrands on both sides. John Brown’s raid on Harper’s Ferry and subsequent execution served to increase the brooding mood of the country. The bloodiest war in the history of mankind was not predictable even one year before it began. The aristocracy of Washington DC actually took carriages in their Sunday best to watch the First Battle of Bull Run. Shortly thereafter Lincoln mobilized 500,000 men and unleashed a catastrophic spiral of butchery over the next four years that exhausted itself with the assassination of Lincoln and the surrender at Appomattox in the same week. The resolution of this Crisis felt more like defeat than victory.

Renowned American historian Carl Degler called FDR’s New Deal the “Third American Revolution”. The Crisis began suddenly with the Black Tuesday stock-market crash in 1929.  After a three-year economic free fall, the Great Depression triggered the New Deal Revolution, a vast expansion of government, and hopes for a renewal of national community.  After Pearl Harbor, America planned, mobilized, and produced for world war on a scale never seen in the history of  mankind, making possible complete victory over the Nazis and Fascists. In 1928 did anyone foresee an 89% stock market crash, worldwide depression, vast expansion of government power, a world war more devastating than the prior war, and the usage of an atomic weapon of mass destruction? Not a chance. Only in retrospect do people convince themselves that it was predictable.

Black Tuesday, October 29, 1929 marked the abrupt unforeseen end of the Roaring Twenties. The bewilderingly rapid collapse of the worldwide financial system in the space of three years left the American people shaken and desperate. With their wealth destroyed and unemployment exceeding 20%, the American public turned to Franklin Delano Roosevelt and his New Deal promises of government social and work programs. He declared “nationwide thinking, nationwide planning, and nationwide action, the three essentials of public life”. This was truly a Third American Revolution. FDR’s policies changed the course of American history. The renewed spirit of American youth during the 1930s was essential in preparing them for the trials that awaited from 1941 through 1945. It is somewhat ironic that FDR’s revolutionary social programs, begun during the last Crisis, will be a major factor in the current Crisis – the Fourth American Revolution.

Fourth American Revolution

“The US government is on a “burning platform” of unsustainable policies and practices with fiscal deficits, chronic healthcare underfunding, immigration and overseas military commitments threatening a crisis if action is not taken soon.” – David M. Walker

 

 

No one knows exactly what events will transpire over the next 15 to 20 years as this Fourth Turning morphs from regeneracy to climax and finally to resolution. The mainstream media, most politicians, and self proclaimed progressives are blind to the cyclicality of history. They believe history proceeds in a linear upwards path. These are the people you see on TV talking about toning down the rhetoric, false gestures of bipartisanship, and soothing words about the financial crisis being a thing of the past. They fail to understand that once the mood of the country is catalyzed by a trigger event or events, there is no turning back the clock. Winter must be dealt with head on. Very few, if any, “financial experts” anticipated a housing collapse, followed by a deep recession, a 50% stock market crash, and a financial system which came within hours of total implosion on September 18, 2008 (as detailed in the documentary Generation Zero). Absolutely no one anticipated the extreme measures taken by the U.S. government and Federal Reserve to “Save” the country from a 2nd Great Depression. These measures have added $5 trillion to the National Debt in the last 40 months. It took 205 years to accumulate the 1st $5 trillion of debt.

While it is impossible to predict the exact trials and tribulations that will confront America over the next decade, the issues that will drive this Fourth Turning were clearly visible to anyone with their eyes open, many years in advance of the Crisis.  Strauss & Howe clearly detailed the easily observable issues that led to the current Crisis back in 1997. Their book is not prophecy, but historically provable interactions between generations based upon the circumstances confronting society at the time.

“Sometime around the year 2005, perhaps a few years before or after, America will enter the Fourth Turning. A spark will ignite a new mood. It will catalyze a Crisis. In retrospect, the spark might seem as ominous as a financial crash, as ordinary as a national election, or as trivial as a Tea Party. It could be a rapid succession of small events in which the ominous, the ordinary, and the trivial are commingled.” – The Fourth Turning – Strauss & Howe -1997

The authors use their common sense, based upon known trends, to posit potential catalyst scenarios such as:

  • A global terrorist group blows up an aircraft and announces it possesses nuclear weapons.
  • Beset by a fiscal crisis, states begin to balk at Federal mandates leading to secession actions, militia violence, cyber attacks on the IRS, and demands for a new Constitutional Convention.
  • An impasse over the federal budget reaches a stalemate. The government shuts down. The President declares emergency powers. Congress rescinds his authority. Financial markets spiral out of control. Default looms.

These “theoretical” scenarios were put forth in 1997. The authors concluded that these were unlikely, but that no matter what the catalyst, the response by the generations would be predictable. It seems this Fourth Turning is being driven by a succession of smaller triggers, rather than one large trigger. The housing collapse, which began in 2005, ultimately led to the world financial system collapse in 2008. The overreach by government in attempting to repair the damage done by Wall Street and K Street led to the Rick Santelli Tea Party Rant heard round the world in February 2009. The Tea Party movement has since taken the country by storm, surprising the linear thinkers and stunning the ruling elite. Last week a congresswoman and a dozen bystanders were gunned down, further darkening the mood of the country and inflaming passions among competing political ideologies. So what happens next?

Strauss & Howe postulated on the possible path of this Crisis and I see nothing to doubt their analysis:

“An initial spark will trigger a chain reaction of unyielding responses and further emergencies. The core elements of these scenarios (debt, civic decay, global disorder) will matter more than the details, which the catalyst will juxtapose and connect in some unknowable way. It is unlikely that the catalyst will worsen into a full fledged catastrophe, since the nation will probably find a way to avert the initial danger and stabilize the situation for a while.” – The Fourth Turning – Strauss & Howe -1997

The CNBC talking heads, mainstream media pundits, clueless Washington politicians, corrupt Wall Street shysters, and non-thinking robotic masses have been convinced that the actions taken by Ben Bernanke, Barack Obama, Tim Geithner and Congress have averted a financial disaster and saved the world. One hundred years from now when Chinese historians look back on the period from 2000 until 2025 they will ask themselves, “what the hell were they thinking?” The causes of this Crisis are as clear as day to anyone willing to see. A small group of Wall Street bankers and corporate interests through their proxy, the Federal Reserve, created the largest housing bubble in the history of the world generating hundreds of billions in obscene undeserved profits, while destroying the wealth and futures of millions of middle class Americans. Once the fraudulent nature of the bankers’ pillaging of the nation’s wealth came to light, the entire ponzi scheme collapsed, as they always do. On a parallel track, the Federal government, knowing full well that its un-payable social welfare commitments could never be fulfilled, decided to engage in two wars of choice, made additional un-payable social welfare commitments, and created new bloated bureaucratic agencies in the name of security and safety.

What will truly amaze future historians is the “solutions” that our leaders chose to save the country. Despite already being the largest debtor the planet has ever seen, with a National Debt of $8 trillion in 2005, the President and Congress have added an additional $6 trillion of debt, with plans to increase that debt at a rate of $1.5 trillion per year for the foreseeable future. Despite the fact that the housing boom was created by loose monetary policy and non-enforcement of existing laws and regulations by the Federal Reserve, our leaders have allowed this bank owned entity to reduce interest rates to 0%, buy $1.5 trillion of toxic mortgages from the Wall Street banks that caused the crisis, suspend requirements for banks to report their assets at their FMV, monetize the debt spending by the Federal Government, and create inflation through the printing of money out of this air. The Federal government’s response to the crisis was to create a mandated healthcare benefit for 35 million more Americans with no means to pay the untold trillions in future costs. Our leaders’ solution to a crisis caused by excessive debt has been to create twice as much debt. A passage from the Book of Matthew which Abraham Lincoln utilized during a prior Fourth Turning Crisis is a fitting description of where we stand today:

“Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand.” – Matthew 12:25

The country is deeply divided. There is a vast swath of America that has chosen ignorance over knowledge. With 50% of Americans paying no income taxes, they will vote for anyone who promises them more. The rest of America is split between those who believe the answer lies in increased Federal government coordination and control and those who want a return to liberty, individual responsibility and a vastly reduced Federal government footprint. As I have tried to figure out the most likely path of this Fourth Turning I was focused on an external conflict in the Middle East or an incident on the Korean Peninsula providing the next spark. After the shooting in Tucson, this Fourth Turning is beginning to crystallize.

What I realized was that the three previous American Revolutions all occurred on U.S. soil. The First American Revolution was fought on American soil by a loose confederation of autonomous states against the overbearing control of a great European empire. The Second American Revolution was fought by Americans against Americans and resulted in a vast expansion of Federal government power and diminishment of state power. The Third American Revolution took place under the auspices of saving America from the depths of Depression with government social programs and the birth of the Nanny State. Each Revolution has further expanded the power and control of the Federal government. I believe the Fourth American Revolution will ultimately come down to a battle between the Liberty movement and the ruling oligarchy of Wall Street, Mega-corporations and supporters of the Military Nanny State.

I trust that Strauss & Howe correctly assessed the main factor that will drive the next phase of this Crisis – the Great Devaluation:

“It could be a series of downward ratchets linked to political events that sequentially knock the supports out from under the residual popular trust in the system. As assets devalue, trust will further disintegrate, which will cause assets to devalue further, and so on. Every slide in asset prices, employment, and production will give every generation cause to grow more alarmed. With savings worth less, the new elders will become more dependent on government, just as government becomes less able to pay benefits to them. Before long, America’s old civic order will seem ruined beyond repair.” –  The Fourth Turning – Strauss & Howe -1997

There is no doubt in my mind that the next downward ratchet in this Crisis will be caused by Ben Bernanke and his attempt to generate just enough inflation to make our un-payable debt load less burdensome. His track record regarding economic forecasting, assessment of housing prices and anticipation of economic distress is flawless. He hasn’t been right once. With the top 1% richest Americans controlling 42% of the financial wealth in the country, an all-time high, the next leg down will boil over into class warfare. The middle class has been devastated thus far. Another stock market collapse and more job losses would push them over the edge. The evident failure of government solutions will invigorate the Liberty Movement to become even more strident in their anti-government message. The subsequent battle between the Haves and Have Nots is likely to flair into protests, riots and increasing violence. There will be no compromises. The 2012 Presidential election could incite reactions on par with the election of Lincoln in 1860. While the country convulsively flails about, foreign adversaries will take advantage of our weakness. Peak oil will throw a further wrench into the downward spiral. Out of this tempest, the country will either turn to a strong leader and more government control or move back toward a smaller Federal government footprint and a return to rule by the people and for the people. The outcome is unknown, but the path is foreseeable. Let’s hope that Ben Franklin was right.

All of us who were engaged in the struggle must have observed frequent instances of superintending providence in our favor. To that kind providence we owe this happy opportunity of consulting in peace on the means of establishing our future national felicity. And have we now forgotten that powerful friend? Or do we imagine that we no longer need his assistance? I have lived, Sir, a long time, and the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth-that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the Ground without his Notice, is it probable that an Empire can rise without his Aid?” – Benjamin Franklin, To Colleagues at the Constitutional Convention

 

“History offers no guarantees. If America plunges into an era of depression or violence which by then has not lifted, we will likely look back on the 1990s as the decade when we valued all the wrong things and made all the wrong choices.”  – The Fourth Turning – Strauss & Howe -1997

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llpoh
llpoh

Hardrock – grow some balls, man -up , or fuck off. Otherwise you will get torched every time you show your pussy face around here. Pussies not allowd.

Liam
Liam

What I’m waiting for are the Boomers to get out of the way, so I guess I represent that next gen that is ready to shake things up a little.

I feel bad for the Boomers that grew up with such idealistic machinations guiding them, only to lose their momentum with self interest and greed. Had they continued to pursue their needs collectively, they wouldn’t have been hosed at every turn (eg. 1970s with rising gas prices just when they buy cars, early 1980s with outrageous interest rates just when they go to buy a house, various massive corrections just when they’re getting into the market to save some retirement coin).

In their retirement, I hope that the Boomers rebel. In a big way. I hope that they realize that ‘legacy’ is a communal thing and that if they decide to do things together, they’ll be able to push for the final radical push that this world needs in order to survive.

Hedge Fund Manager

Historically and in other countries you see revolution when there is a massive jump in the price of food. This is what’s happening in Tunisia.

However, the breaking point in the U.S.will have to be something different. Maybe gas prices?

Thus far there has been no push back for the loss of civil liberties and there is no reason to think that there ever will be.

Apollo
Apollo

@Liam

Clearly you’re not a boomer. You are a fucked up no-brain sub-boomer. Let me educate you:

– Boomer is the generation that created the fantastic technological superpower US of A. A country admired by the world not just because of that power, but because America has morality, heart and willing to share. Everything you and much of the world enjoy today is 99% the creation and perfection of of the boomer generation, especially the first half. From the thousands of scientific achievement across all discipline, to the electronics and other technological marvels, all the aerospace stuff, first class national infrastructure – all were made by the boomer generation.

– Who run Wall Street? It run by the generation about 5-10 years older than the boomer. But most of them are now gone, leaving behind a national wreckage. What is the age of Greenspan, Liam? Hitting 80, a generation before the boomer.

– Who sucked up to the bubble? Who dig their debt holes like the Maoist Chinese dug their country into ideological bankruptcy back in the 1950’s? The X and Y generation. Yes, there are some younger boomers there as well. Who is the least-educated and dumbest generation? The Y generation – and that’s been substantiated by scientific studies. Name me one Gen X/Y winner of any major prize in science, technology or design. I can name you many dozen in boomers.

– Who won the Cold War? The boomers. Who lost Vietnam, Korea? Pre-boomers. Who kicked Saddam ass back to Iraq after Kuwait in 1990’s? Boomers. Who fucked up Iraq invasion? Gen X.

Now I have to grant you one. Who is the biggest MoFu boomer? G W Bush.

Steve
Steve

Article: Absolutely no one anticipated the extreme measures taken by the U.S. government and Federal Reserve to “Save” the country from a 2nd Great Depression. These measures have added $5 trillion to the National Debt in the last 40 months. It took 205 years to accumulate the 1st $5 trillion of debt.

The U.S. Government held off a Global Great Depression only by mortgaging it into the future.
Unfortunatly it’s only temporary and the debt has to be paid, even if by inflation and eventual outright default. Welcome to the NEW “Liberty Currency”
War is now so profitable it is now self perpetuating.
Technology first use is military and will be spread everywhere, making the World a more dangerous place.
The ecological planet is being trashed, global warming, poisions, resource depletion.

So do you think without radical new thinking and leadership we may not be saved?
Sorry our corrupt institutions may well put all of us into catastropic loss of life, and maybe then if the World can be salvaged, a new era of moral values will endure.

Today look and take a glimpse of where we are heading…….

Smokey
Smokey

Steve——Global Warming is a crock of shit.

Punk in Drublic

Apollo
You fuckers designed the education system that is responsible for the dumbest generation. Designed the shameful excuse for a stock market. Kicked the can down the road with every major sociopolitical decision you were confronted with. And you killed John Lennon.
Boomers eat shit.

yipeeaz
yipeeaz

Liam – “In their retirement, I hope that the Boomers rebel. In a big way.”

I don’t see that happening at all. They’re all short timers and will not rock the boat (system) to jeopardize their retirement, plain and simple.

Now and the other hand, if the Fed stops propping up the States via TARP at the end of the fiscal year (July) and they go bust along with all the union retirement bennies, then watch out!

But to avoid that I think the PTB via MSM (Meredith Whitney,Gov Christie,etc.) are keeping the rhetoric up as a means of predictive programming to soften the landing if they allow the States finances to crash.

But I remember what George Carlin said, “ They’re coming for your retirement and they want it bad !!!”

In that case it will be as Thinker described…. The threat will be clear enough (a corrupt, corporate-bought government) and everyone will understand that banging a bunch of pots in the streets (Argentina) isn’t going to do diddle squat.

Then there will be blood spilled….banksters, govsters, and judgsters. That’s what Tucson is really all about…. that HLS cannot protect them from a man with nothing to lose.

A Real Black Person
A Real Black Person

“Name me one Gen X/Y winner of any major prize in science, technology or design. I can name you many dozen in boomers. ”
They’re mostally people from the middle east and asia. so I wouldn’t expect you to have heard about them being the well-informed person you are.

“Everything you and much of the world enjoy today is 99% the creation and perfection of of the boomer generation, especially the first half. From the thousands of scientific achievement across all discipline, to the electronics and other technological marvels, all the aerospace stuff, first class national infrastructure – all were made by the boomer generation. ”

The majority of those scientific achievements were refinements of the conbustible engine and things that could be done with electricity. Your efforts tripled the world population and wed its survival to an infrastructure dependent on fossil fuels, particularly, petroleum . The infrastructure your generation has built is crumbling because it was dependent on one dollar a gallon oil and a tax base–two things that couldn’t exist for long in a globalized economy.

Scientific innovation has stalled because all the easy stuff has been done. Nanotechnology, genetic engineering and contemporary art are all stalling, because they’re f-ing difficult and believe because humans are starting to reach limits to our cognitive abilities and physical environments. I think this is called diminishing returns* Generations X,Y, and Z have, literally, to reinvent industrial society and so far they’re finding out that they can’t do this. No one, boomer or not, has found a renewable energy resource that can power our level of technological development. When you die, the world will be in the process of regressing right back to the 17th or 16th century(if it’s lucky) and your generation will be villainized for dropping the ball because you guys are running the country and the world at the moment, living for the moment. The internet will be forgotten. Television will be a distant memory. All that shit depended on a shitload of cheap energy won’t ever be acessible to the human race ever again. Your generation’s only credit will be that they’ve moved the malthusain catastrophe further down the line. So instead of having mass starvation in the 1970s, it will occur in the 2060s or so.

*As exciting as space travel is, the world isn’t a giant command economy we can’t just direct 100 percent of its resources towards space colonization. Even if we could, it just wouldn’t happen. THe world does not possess enough resources.

A Real Black Person
A Real Black Person

. I only mentioned contemporary art because he brought up design, which is related to contemporary art, both which are intellectually decaying as we speak.

Apollo
Apollo

The boomers are not the one who will help dig the country, or anything and anybody for that matter, out of the black hole. Count on that. But they will do all they can to help themselves. Most of them will be OK.

It is the Gen X who must step up to the plate. They are in their 40’s, and find themselves right between a hill and a hole. They still have a decent education, some experience, creative mind. If they don’t, or can’t fix, the rest of the developed and developing world will eat their lunch. Count on that.

Don’t count on the Gen Y to do or think anything. They just don’t have it. They will sit and blame. They will beg and crawl. They are waiting to be saved by the Gen X. They have no concept of success, no skills on how to achieve anything of value. They are a bunch of dumb mob waiting for the messiah to come, save their sorry butts. So that they can continue playing with their Asian-made toys. I’ve news for them – the equivalent Gen Y in Europe and tiger Asia, including China, will blow them away in about a decade. These foreign Gen Y is the exact opposite of American Gen Y – they are beginning to look like the boomers – propelling their countries into economic heights. Many of the the Gen Y in America will grow up to be economic immigrants sneaking into Mexico or rural India to find jobs. Will Mexico build a fence to keep them out?

Jimbo
Jimbo

Do any here follow Martin Armstrong? He is a step beyond Strauss & Howe and went to jail for his work.

RobM
RobM

I believe what you call “Turnings” are really cycles when the debt(principal plus interest) is due to England. Thats right we are still a British Colony. See here: http://www.civil-liberties.com/books/index.html

RobM
RobM

1776 Declaration of Independence established, through the Articles of Confederation, a sovereign republic. The Republic lasted 7 years.

1782 National government went to the States and asked them to foot the bill for the Revolutionary War and the States said they would not pay the debt. National government was therefore forced to form a Constitution. The national government lost its sovereignty. A constitution (security, with sureties) is created by a constitutor – one who passes his debts to a 3rd party.

1789 Constitution was a negotiable, debt, security instrument which the national debt was attached to. The King of England bought the debt (and legal title over the national government’s property) and the democracy was formed (and the national govt. lost its sovereignty via international bankruptcy). The democracy operates under military tribunal laws, where the minute you’re charged, you’re guilty.

International bankruptcy lasts 70 years. At the end of the bankruptcy, the debt is due. The States had signed on as sureties for the debt.

1791 Alexander Hamilton created the Bank of the U.S. (with a 20 year charter) where the securities were held.

1811 Congress decided not to renew the Bank of the U.S.

1812 War of 1812 Britain took possession of all the federal courts (where the titles are).

1816 Another central bank but Andrew Jackson nixed it. The country operated at a surplus for the only time, but did he pay the debts or was he a belligerent debtor?

1859 Civil War – the northern States went to the Southern states which had most of the money (gold, cotton, resources, wealth) and the South said no we’re not paying – we’ll start our own country. Because of their dishonor with the international bankers, and it was the will of the creditors to get the debt paid or take sureties for the debt; hence the States lost their sovereignty. Another bankruptcy; another 70 year process. Now the States were in dishonor, so now the international creditors took control of the State’s property and the States (who were surety for the debt) no longer had their sovereignty.

1909 Jekyll island – Federal Reserve, income tax in 1913. The IRS is foreign despite the fact that its employees are not. Taxes don’t go to operating the country; they go to pay the debt to the creditors. The creditors have surety through the Fed.

1929 Stock market crash. Bankruptcy due and we didn’t pay (dishonor) again. This time the people lost their sovereignty. There was confiscation of gold, silver and all legal (allodial) title. They also took title to your body through a certificate of title known as your birth certificate (which is a bond and goes to the Dept. of Commerce). They took it to give you a benefit. You can be irresponsible because they took control of the slaves on the plantation. The people (who were surety for the debt) lost their sovereignty. [Fascism is the government having all legal titles.]
[You can get legal title back.]

1933 Social Security. State has all legal title.
Everyone in JurA has an exemption and are creditors.
From the perspective of JurB, you’re presumed to be a debtor.

1999 State now not only has legal title to everything, but controls equitable title to almost everything. We went from fascism to communism

2001 Debt is due. what did they pay them this time?

CaptainAmerica
CaptainAmerica

I WANT the inevitable crash. My family is prepared, financially, spiritually, logistically. My respect for my own country is at its lowest ebb. Most of our red, white and BLUE herd is unthinking, uncaring, zombie-esque. They make the hairs on my 50 something neck stand on end, and are as repulsive to me as my first glimpse of Nosferatu at the age of three years old.

For the first time, in my long suffering for fools existance, I understand why the NWO pricks want to reduce the world’s population. May some of us good ones survive, and mount Rothschild heads on London Bridge as a warning to the next, inevitable flow of tyrants.

Fourth Turning? I know not of this stuff, but America is indeed not the place I care to live any longer. I miss Father Knows Best, Joe Dimaggio, and buying some anti-communist Marvel comic books every Tuesday as a boy.

1776rEOVLution

Interesting…It seems the analysis is devoid of the facts and persists to focus upon the official story as told by history. The revolutionary war and accident?….French Revolution an accident? Crash of 1928 an accident? WWII an accident? 9/11 and accident? 7/7 and accident? who are you trying to kid? Yes if you were to accept (holding your nose) the spoon fed history from the public schools and read the “Highly Regarded” books on history brought to you by the Rockefeller, Carnage, Ford etc..etc…yes you may even agree this prospective is somewhat true and also agree with the possibility of the supposed possible negative outcome. Doom and Gloom…
Yet that is part of the program…Lions, Tigers and Bears….Oh My…
What is not mentioned is the growth of understanding of the skullduggery over the past 2000 years and how we (humans) have been herded like cattle lead to slaughter by the so called elite’s, keeping us in slaved in darkness with subversion and trickery. Keeping us broke with taxes feeding a tyrannical kings, and governments that are no more for the people than a butcher is for the cows that supplies the meat they sell.
There is hope as we are now awaking and we are a little upset how we have been mistreated yet not so much that we hate. Fear is leaving this world for good and the darkness is almost gone and I welcome the dawn of humankind. We are entering a period of change and the outcome will be the most positive changes anyone could ever imagine. The whole idea that when people are placed under negative forces the only reaction is submission or revolt is stupid as the facts do not agree. In times of trouble humans bond together, they help each other, and the protect each other as in no other time. We shall come through it man made debacle wiser, better and stronger than before. United We Stand.. Divided We Fall…

PEDRO VILCA YBANA
PEDRO VILCA YBANA

The facts are so known, although the roots of the american revolution had a lot of results, not at all are wrong today, and wait for God bless us once more time. At present, i want to treat only subjects about family, historical records, and remarkable facts as well as some relatives ancestors soldiers of Pedro Vilca Ybana and Jaime J Vilca Ybana, such as:

JOAN ANTONIO YBANA
Historical Fact: American Independence War ( 1775-1783)
Estimated Birth: near 1760
Gender: Male
Race: White
Rank: Private
Side Served: California front, against British Empire
Period Served: 1779-1783, George Washington period
Remarks: Strongly supported the revolutionary efforts against England until peace was declared 3 Sept. 1783. The 250 plus soldiers who served in California during the critical period of 1779-1783 settlements were specifically focused on warding off the English and Russian claims and advances. France (1778) and Spain (1779) joined the 13 american colonies against England during George Washington period. The South Coast Chapter, Sons of the American Revolution (SAR) considers Joan Antonio Ybana as ally, who is joined the SAR today.
From:
“SAR-Sons of the American Revolution, South coast Chapter”
“SAR Seeks Descendants of Soldiers Who Served in California during The American Revolution”, Summer 1998
“Ten References for Spanish Soldiers of 1779-1783” by Granville W. Hough, Pd.D.

FRANCISCO YBANA
Historical Fact: American Civil War (1861-1865)
Estimated Birth: abt 1839
Gender: Male
Race: White
Residence County: Los Angeles, California
State Served: California
Side Served: Union, Abraham Lincoln period
Rank: Private
Regiment: First Battalion of Native Cavalry, Company A
Place of Enrollment: San José, California
Date of: April 2, 1863
Date of Muster: April 23, 1863
Remarks: Deserted at Presidio, San Francisco, California, Sept. 29, 1865.
The American Civil War confronted Union (northern states) against Confederation (southern states) during Abraham Lincoln period who belonged side Union.
From:
“Records of California Men in the War of the Rebellion, 1861 to 1867” by Brig.-Gen. Richard H. Orton, pub. 1890
“U.S. Civil War Soldier Records and Profiles”, Military
“California State Census, 1852”, Census & Voter Lists
“American Civil War Soldiers”, Military

Taken of historical records for not forgive them
Thanks for share information
Ybana Family Facts

Amy
Amy

I’m no historical scholar, so I can’t make any good analysis of this article, but I’d say that it rings true. There has been a shift, perhaps a sort of sea change, in the mood of this country. We’re definitely being split into the neocon nanny-staters, the “liberal” nanny-staters, and the individualists who constantly argue against both of the former groups. Obviously I consider myself firmly in the last group.

Because I have a three-month old child, I’m focused on keeping my family safe first, and fighting for liberty second. And I don’t know how much it will help, but I’m doing the following:

1. Preparing to move to a rural area closer to my husband’s family with more acres.
2. “Collecting” and using items that I consider to be micro-manufacturing equipment (pressure canner, pasta machine, hand tools, brewing supplies, fermentation equipment, drying equipment, etc.)
3. Learning about energy sources such as wood, wind and solar.
4. Planting long-term food sources such as fruit & nut trees, berry bushes, etc.
5. Learning about foraging.
6. Basic medical skills.
7. Collecting books with primary information on herbal medicines, farming, electrical.
8. Contemplating trying to forge more “friend” relationships with people even though I’m a complete introvert.

And I’m a white-collar, college-educated female who used to be a player in the corporate scientific world. It seems to be a sham that will crumble someday soon…though I am hoping that I have a lot more time to prepare. This is a bit of a foreign world to me, but even if nothing bad transpires, I have learned a lot of new, practical skills.

Thanks for the article, it’s definitely something to think about.

Golden Tool
Golden Tool

RobM brings up a valid point. This is history not talked about, not even hinted about really, at least on the US side of the ocean.

You can analyze history all you want if you plug the same parameters in an equation you get the same results. This begs the question…

Why are the parameters always the same?

1 The man/group making the decisions have the same thought process? (CEO’s think alike)
2 Is it the same group making the decisions? (Secret Societies rule all)
3 The choices get narrowed down to the same outcomes so the group/man isn’t really making any decisions just being directed through the maze. (God, Aliens, Masons, Robots, input mysterious awesomeness here)

Option one = man/group making the decisions equals very stupid or can’t learn from history.
Option 2/3 = that’s a deep ass rabbit hole because the outcome is deliberate. Makes me ask the question what is the desired result, if this is the 4th try at this. Just in the US.

I believe the quote is.

“(Insanity) Doing the same thing again and again expecting a different result”

Long live Canada! Have to agree with some of the other posts on here, you guys are jackasses.

Dan

Hi, I noticed that you’re using one of my photos (the man in front of the fiery furnace) that I originally posted on http://www.comfortbetrays.com/2009/11/what-does-king-nebuchadnezzar-have-to-do-with-socal/

I don’t mind having this used on your blog, however I’d appreciate if you would provide credit for your source. A simple caption directly underneath such as “Photo credit: ComfortBetrays.com” would work just fine.

Thanks,
Dan

Dan

Thanks Admin, I appreciate it.

Brandon Chapman
Brandon Chapman

@Reverse Engineer

I’m calling rubbish on your dystopian future caused by a lack of cheap energy. We’re getting ready to mine the moon for H3, and that will easily solve the worlds energy problems. Another solution would be to convert the current nuke sites from ‘burning’ risky plutonium and uranium, to using thorium, and adding more efficient sites as the years roll on. To think that we’re going to break up over a lack of innovation is nonsense. Technological advancements are far from linear these days, they’re geometric.

As for what can be seen in the future? I have no crystal ball, but think that it will get much worse before it gets much, much better. The old paradigm will not shift easily. The culture has started the shift about 5 years ago to being much more focused on the long term. We’re now redeveloping a sense of community, and reestablishing deep ties to our families, and adapting practically. From the cultural shifts, social and political changes will be had, but it will likely take another decade before a new world order has emerged.

Nearly every abstract system once devised to be humanities friend has become it’s foe. We need to reassess each system, and all it’s subparts, to see where we took a wrong turn, and how best to move forward in the 21st century. I suggest dropping all preconceived notions of what our nature is. It’s not static, and certainly not bound to our history in “civilization”.

Stephen McDonald
Stephen McDonald

What are people fighting for? I hardly read anything, but it seems to me like people need to brush up on the defining moments of their lives especially something as ancient as fighting with brutal force. If anything other than a unchangeable situation without fighting is in effect, there is really no reason to. What you are maybe fighting for is a war over ignorance… But is hard to tell, unless you are fighting for something with oversimplistic tendencies.
If you really think about it and that is the case, maybe you are having a war moreso with yourself than any other person so why not start there?

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