THE GATHERING STORM

“Still, if you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed, if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not so costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no chance of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.” – Winston Churchill – The Second World War

A butterfly flapped its wings in Tunisia creating a hurricane that is swirling across the globe, wreaking havoc with the existing social order and sweeping away old crumbling institutions and dictatorships. The linear thinking politicians, pundits and thought leaders have been knocked for a loop. They didn’t see it coming and they don’t know where it’s leading. An examination and understanding of history would have revealed that we have been here before. We were here in 1773. We were here in 1860. We were here in 1929. We are here again. The Fourth Turning has returned in its predictable cycle, just as Winter always follows Fall.

 

Winston Churchill wrote the definitive history of World War II in 1948. His six volume history detailed the years from the end of World War I through the unconditional surrender of the Axis powers in 1945. Volume I in the series was The Gathering Storm. It covered the second half of the Unraveling and the first ten years of the last Fourth Turning Crisis period. The title fits perfectly with the mood and inevitability of what was destined to occur. All Fourth Turnings resemble Winter, with bitter cold options, biting winds of change, dark days, and destructive storms. The seasons cannot be averted. The Seasons of a year are predictable, as are the seasons of a human life. We’ve entered the Crisis (Winter) season of the latest Saeculum that began in 1946 and will climax sometime around 2025.

“Reflect on what happens when a terrible winter blizzard strikes. You hear the weather warning but probably fail to act on it. The sky darkens. Then the storm hits with full fury, and the air is a howling whiteness. One by one, your links to the machine age break down. Electricity flickers out, cutting off the TV. Batteries fade, cutting off the radio. Phones go dead. Roads become impossible, and cars get stuck. Food supplies dwindle. Day to day vestiges of modern civilization – bank machines, mutual funds, mass retailers, computers, satellites, airplanes, governments – all recede into irrelevance. Picture yourself and your loved ones in the midst of a howling blizzard that lasts several years. Think about what you would need, who could help you, and why your fate might matter to anybody other than yourself. That is how to plan for a saecular winter. Don’t think you can escape the Fourth Turning. History warns that a Crisis will reshape the basic social and economic environment that you now take for granted.” – Strauss & Howe – The Fourth Turning

The generations are aligned in such a way that an event, incident, or individual action that may have been disregarded or ignored ten years ago will now trigger a worldwide conflagration. The Boston Massacre occurred in1770 during Revolutionary Saeculum. Five colonists were slaughtered by British troops. The mood of the generations was not ready for a Crisis. It wasn’t until three years later that the Boston Tea Party ignited a spark that started a revolution. John Brown’s raid on Harper’s Ferry in 1859 was intended to start a revolution. The populace was not ready. One year later, the election of Abraham Lincoln lit the fuse on the most horrific war in modern history. America experienced a sharp depression in 1920-1921. The country did not spiral into a decade long downturn, culminating in a World War that killed 65 million people. The generational dynamic was not aligned in a way that would lead to that outcome. Instead, the roaring twenties commenced. On December 17, 2010 a man committed a seemingly inconsequential act that has ignited a worldwide firestorm.

The spark that has enflamed the planet was struck by a 26-year-old Tunisian with a computer science degree named Mohamed Bouazizi, who unable to feed his family, was not allowed by his government to even get a permit to sell vegetables. Bouazizi publicly doused himself with gasoline, lit a match, and burnt not only his own body, but enflamed the consciousness of a world, and its inhabitants, being obliterated by the corrupt wealthy elites who rule the planet. In less than a month the brush fire started by this 26-year-old Tunisian had incinerated the despotic government of his country and forced its “president-for-life”, Zine El Abidine Ben Ali, to flee the country. The people’s coup in Tunisia, called the Jasmine Revolution, has sent shockwaves across the globe, spreading wildfires of freedom throughout the Arab world.  The firestorm started by Bouazizi has brought down Mubarak in Egypt and is lapping at the heals of Gaddafi in Libya. Tyrants throughout the world are quivering with fear. The mood of the people across the globe has turned dark and angry. The political class and media are persistently surprised by the reaction of citizens to events during the Fourth Turning.

Historians William Strauss and Neil Howe documented their generational theory in the 1997 book The Fourth Turning. People who prefer blind ideology and believe human existence is a straight line of progress scorn their work as fantasy and pure prophecy. So called progressives misrepresent the theory as predicting the future because they refuse to accept the fact that large groups of human beings of a similar age and having common experiences react in similar predictable ways. It irritates those with an unwavering belief in human individuality. They prefer to ignore the numerous example of mass hysteria throughout history. In just the last 10 years we have experienced an internet boom and a housing boom that convinced millions of Americans to act  simultaneously in a foolish manner . The theory is so logical and measurable that even the most vacuous blond bubble head on Fox News should understand it.

Strauss & Howe have been able to break Anglo-American history into 80 to 100 year (a long human life) Saeculums going back to 1435. Each Saeculum has four generations at different stages of their lives.  A turning is an era with a characteristic social mood, a new twist on how people feel about themselves and their nation.  It results from the aging of the generational constellation.  A society enters a turning once every twenty years or so, when all living generations begin to enter their next phases of life.  Like archetypes and constellations, turnings come four to a saeculum, and always in the same order. In 1997, Strauss & Howe knew when the next Fourth Turning would begin:

The next Fourth Turning is due to begin shortly after the new millennium, midway through the Oh-Oh decade. Around the year 2005, a sudden spark will catalyze a Crisis mood. Remnants of the old social order will disintegrate. Political and economic trust will implode. Real hardship will beset the land, with severe distress that could involve questions of class, race, nation and empire. The very survival of the nation will feel at stake. Sometime before the year 2025, America will pass through a great gate in history, commensurate with the American Revolution, Civil War, and twin emergencies of the Great Depression and World War II.”Strauss & Howe – The Fourth Turning

They did not predict events that would ignite the next Fourth Turning. It was how the generations reacted to the events that mattered. The generational constellation is now in the once every 80 year alignment that will lead to chaos, violent change, the sweeping away of the existing social order, and likely war. Strauss & Howe answered why this would happen fourteen years ago:

“What will propel these events? As the saeculum turns, each of today’s generations will enter a new phase of life, producing a Crisis constellation of Boomer elders, midlife 13ers, young adult Millennials, and children from the new Silent Generation. As each archetype asserts its new social role, American society will reach its peak of potency. The natural order givers will be elder Prophets, the natural order takers young Heroes. The no-nonsense bosses will be midlife Nomads, the sensitive souls the child Artists. No archetypal constellation can match the gravitational power of this one – nor its power to congeal the natural dynamic of human history into new civic purposes. And none can match its potential power to condense countless arguments, anxieties, cynicisms, and pessimisms into one apocalyptic storm.” – Strauss & Howe – The Fourth Turning

I believe my generation is about to experience a rendezvous with destiny. Each generation’s life experiences have prepared them for this hour and the trials that await them. The mood of the country has shifted darkly into a crisis mode. The mainstream media pundits and progressive politicians try to put a positive spin on today’s events, when anyone with the ability to think can see that things will get severely worse in the next ten years. Trust in our institutions, politicians, corporate leaders, media and social order is disintegrating.

It’s a Matter of Trust

“An initial spark will trigger a chain reaction of unyielding responses and further emergencies. The core elements of these scenarios (debt, civic decay, global disorder) will matter more than the details, which the catalyst will juxtapose and connect in some unknowable way. If foreign societies are also entering a Fourth Turning, this could accelerate the chain reaction.” – Strauss & Howe – The Fourth Turning

The initial spark that ignited this Fourth Turning was the collapse of the housing market, which began in 2005 and continues today. Home prices collapsed, the fraudulent mortgage loans blew up in the faces of the Wall Street banks that birthed them, and millions of delusional Americans lost their houses in foreclosure. The cascading impact of this implosion brought the American empire of debt to its knees. On September 18, 2008 the U.S. financial system came within hours of complete collapse, as described by Congressman Paul Kanjorski on CPAN:

“On Thursday (Sept 18), at 11am the Federal Reserve noticed a tremendous draw-down of money market accounts in the U.S., to the tune of $550 billion was being drawn out in the matter of an hour or two. The Treasury opened up its window to help and pumped a $105 billion in the system and quickly realized that they could not stem the tide. We were having an electronic run on the banks. They decided to close the operation, close down the money accounts and announce a guarantee of $250,000 per account so there wouldn’t be further panic out there.

If they had not done that, their estimation is that by 2pm that afternoon, $5.5 trillion would have been drawn out of the money market system of the U.S., would have collapsed the entire economy of the U.S., and within 24 hours the world economy would have collapsed. It would have been the end of our economic system and our political system as we know it.”

The implosion of the financial system was created by the actions of the Wall Street financers that have been looting the country for decades. They created mortgage products (no doc, liar loans, Alt-A, negative amortization) designed to encourage people to commit fraud. They purposely promoted this massive fraud because they had perfected the art of derivatives. The issuers of these fraudulent mortgages bore none of the risk from their guaranteed default. They packaged them into MBOs and MBSs, bought AAA ratings from Moodys, and shilled them to pension managers, insurance companies, municipalities, states, and little old ladies. Then they bet against their own products with credit default swaps. Their greed and avarice was so extreme, they leveraged their own balance sheets 40 to 1 and then bought their own toxic waste. When their MBA created models proved to be defective, the entire house of cards collapsed. Strauss and Howe anticipated a financial catalyst related to immense levels of debt would trigger the next Fourth Turning:

It is unlikely that the catalyst will worsen into a full-fledged catastrophe, since the nation will probably find a way to avert the initial danger and stabilize the situation for a while.

After the near collapse of the financial system in September 2008, the authorities took unprecedented actions to avert a Second Great Depression. Henry Paulson, the Goldman Sachs U.S. Treasury Secretary, who had warned his own staff that a Wall Street derivative disaster would happen, immediately reacted like a former Wall Street CEO. He convinced his Harvard MBA boss, George W. Bush, that the only way to save the country was to fork over $700 billion to the Wall Street banks that created the manmade disaster. When Congress initially voted down this banker bribe, Wall Street showed who was boss by crashing the market by 777 points in one day. The bought off politicians in Washington DC then towed the line and passed TARP.

The two and one half years since September 2008 have set the stage for a far worse catastrophe. The Obama administration jammed an $800 billion pork filled stimulus bill down the throats of America, along with home buyer tax credits, loan modification programs, and a healthcare plan that will crush small businesses. The politicians, government bureaucrats, and mainstream media corporate mouthpieces proclaim that their wise and prompt actions averted a Second Great Depression. The government solutions used to “stabilize” the situation have wrought unintended consequences and planted the seeds of further pain and suffering to come. A summary of what has happened in the last few years is in order:

  • On September 18, 2008 the National Debt stood at $9.66 trillion. Today it stands at $14.16 trillion, a 47% increase in 2 1/2 years.
  • The country is running $1.5 trillion annual deficits and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.
  • The States are running cumulative budget deficits of $130 billion in FY11 and expect deficits of $112 billion in FY12. This is leading to conflicts with unions, higher taxes and mass layoffs of government workers.
  • The working age population has risen by 5 million, while the number of employed Americans has declined by 6.5 million. The true unemployment rate http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts has risen from 12% to 22%.
  • In September 2008 there were 30.8 million Americans on food stamps. Today there are 44 million Americans on food stamps (14% of the U.S. population), a 43% increase in 2 1/2 years. The annual cost has risen by $37 billion, a 100% increase in 2 1/2 years.
  • Real inflation  http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/inflation-charts bottomed at 5% in early 2009, but has accelerated to 9% today, with further increases baked in the cake.
  • Gasoline prices bottomed out at $1.61 per gallon in January 2009 and have risen to $3.54 per gallon today, a 120% increase in just over two years.
  • Households have lost $6.3 trillion of real estate related wealth since the peak of the housing market. Home prices have fallen for six straight months.
  • Almost 3 million homes have been lost to foreclosure since 2007.
  • There are 11.1 million households, or 23.1% of all mortgaged homes, underwater on their mortgages today, with rates above 50% in Nevada, Arizona, California, and Michigan.
  • Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were taken over by the US government and have lost $170 billion of taxpayer funds so far. Losses are expected to reach $400 billion. Along with the FHA, they continue to prop up a dead housing market with more bad loans.
  • The Federal Reserve balance sheet in September 2008 consisted of $895 billion of US Treasury bonds. Today it totals $2.55 trillion of toxic mortgages bought from Wall Street banks and Treasury bonds being bought under QE2.
  • The Federal Reserve and the Treasury Dept. intimidated the FASB into allowing Wall Street banks to account for worthless mortgage and real estate loans as fully collectible. Magically, insolvent banks became solvent – on paper.
  • The Dow Jones was 11,700 in late August 2008 and today stands at 12,000. The Dow has risen 84% from its March 2009 low. The top 1% wealthiest Americans own 40% of all the stocks in America, so they are feeling much better.
  • In late 2007, a risk averse senior citizen could get a 5% return on a 6 month CD. Today, after two years of no increases in their Social Security payments, a senior citizen can “earn” .38% on a 6 month CD.
  • The Federal Reserve lowered interest rates to 0% in order to allow the Wall Street banks to borrow for free and earn billions without risk.
  • Over 300 smaller banks have been closed by the FDIC, with losses exceeding $50 billion. There are another 900 banks on the verge of insolvency, with estimated future losses of $100 billion.
  • The Federal Reserve initiated QE2 in November 2010, purchasing $70 billion per month of  Treasury bonds and attempting to create a stock market rally. They have succeeded in creating a tsunami of energy, food, and commodity price inflation across the globe, sparking revolutions among the desperately poor in the Middle East.
  • Wall Street banks “earned” record profits of $19 billion in 2010 after nearly destroying the worldwide financial system in 2008 and raping the American taxpayer in 2009.
  • No Wall Street executive has been prosecuted for the fraudulent actions committed by their banks.
  • Wall Street banks handed out $43.3 billion in bonuses in 2009/2010 for a job well done. The average Wall Street employee received a $128,000 bonus in 2010. In 2008, the year they crashed the financial system, they still doled out $17.6 billion in bonuses.
  • The median household income in 2007 was $52,163. Today the median household income is $46,326, an 11% decline in three years. Real average weekly earnings are lower today than they were in 1971.

It is clear from the list above that the oligarchic players that wield the power in this country have chosen to prop up their tottering structure of debt-created-wealth on the backs of the working middle class. The people who have been screwed and continue to be screwed are growing angry and distrustful, as anticipated by Strauss & Howe:

“But as the Crisis mood congeals, people will come to the jarring realization that they have grown helplessly dependent on a teetering edifice of anonymous transactions and paper guarantees. Many Americans won’t know where their savings are, who their employer is, what their pension is, or how their government works. The era will have left the financial world arbitraged and tentacled: Debtors won’t know who holds their notes, homeowners who owns their mortgages, and shareholders who runs their equities – and vice versa.”

The continuing foreclosure crisis has proven that the financial industry’s sole purpose in creating subprime loans, liar loans, Alt-A loans and packaging them into tranches with fake AAA ratings  to be sold off to whatever sucker they could find was to enrich themselves with no care about the future consequences. The owners of the debt can’t prove they own the debt. Lawsuits clog up the court system. Deadbeats occupy houses for longer than two years without making a mortgage payment. Wall Street has created so many complex confusing financial products in their greedy thirst for fees that Harvard MBAs can’t even figure out the mess they have created. The $1.4 quadrillion of outstanding derivatives is truly a weapon of mass worldwide destruction waiting to be triggered. The fraudulent actions of Wall Street, the lies told to the American people by government bureaucrats about the solutions needed, the overstep and obfuscation committed by Ben Bernanke, and the propaganda fed to the masses by the corporate mainstream have destroyed the remaining trust in our institutions. Distrust grows by the day, as Strauss and Howe foresaw in 1997:

“As the Crisis catalyzes, these fears will rush to the surface, jagged and exposed. Distrustful of some things, individuals will feel that their survival requires them to distrust more things. This behavior could cascade into a sudden downward spiral, an implosion of societal trust.”

The growing distrust of financial and governmental institutions was reflected in the angry and sometimes violent town hall meetings with Congressmen during the healthcare debate. An angry on-air rant by financial reporter Rick Santelli ignited the Tea Party movement that eventually swept dozens of candidates into office in a Republican landslide in the 2010 mid-term elections. Societal trust in promises made by politicians is ripping apart. The entitlement benefit promises can’t be kept. Senior citizen and government union beneficiaries are angry. Younger generations don’t want to be left with debt so older generations can have comfortable 25 year retirements. Taxpayers don’t want to pay higher taxes to support gold plated healthcare and pension plans for government union workers. The decades of compromise, denial, apathy and lethargy are over. The mood of the country has changed dramatically. Survival of the country is at stake.

Volcanic Eruption

“America’s short-term Crisis psychology will catch up to the long-term post-Unraveling fundamentals. This might result in a Great Devaluation, a severe drop in the market price of most financial and real assets. This devaluation could be a short but horrific panic, a free-falling price in a market with no buyers. Or it could be a series of downward ratchets linked to political events that sequentially knock the supports out from under the residual popular trust in the system. As assets devalue, trust will further disintegrate, which will cause assets to devalue further, and so on. Every slide in asset prices, employment, and production will give every generation cause to grow more alarmed. With savings worth less, the new elders will become more dependent on government, just as government becomes less able to pay benefits to them.” – Strauss & Howe – The Fourth Turning

The country has withstood the initial onslaught of this latest Fourth Turning. The Great Devaluation resulted in a 50% stock market crash and a 30% decline in home values. Rather than allowing home values to fall to their fair value, the government used tax credits and loan modification programs to prop up home prices. Rather than liquidating insolvent Wall Street banks in an orderly bankruptcy, the government and Federal Reserve chose to use accounting gimmicks and borrowed taxpayer funds to save those who had taken excessive risks and reaped hundreds of billions in profits. The government has systematically “adjusted” every economic statistic in order to paint the most optimistic view possible. Unemployment, inflation, government debt, and GDP are all manipulated in the most positive light.

Many people understand that you cannot solve a debt problem by issuing more debt. They understand that politicians have overpromised Social Security and Medicare benefits to the tune of $100 trillion. They understand that if you cover 30 million more people in your healthcare system, it will cost hundreds of billions more. They understand that mega-corporations have shipped their manufacturing jobs overseas, and they aren’t coming back. They understand spending $800 billion per year, policing the world, fighting two wars of choice, with hundreds of military bases across the globe is unsustainable. They understand that running $1.5 trillion deficits will eventually result in a collapse of the U.S. dollar. They understand that an individual or a country cannot borrow their way to prosperity. The U.S. government is essentially bankrupt and dependent upon Ben Bernanke’s printing press to keep up the appearance of solvency.

Fingers of tension and instability run through every aspect of American society. Pressure is building beneath the surface. The last year and a half have proven to be a liquidity driven lull. The appearance of stability does not mean our situation has stabilized. The actions of those in power have created a vastly more dangerous scenario for the next decade. The volcano is erupting and the lava is flowing along the channels of distress, as described by Strauss & Howe:

Imagine some national (and probably global) volcanic eruption, initially flowing along channels of distress that were created during the Unraveling era and further widened by the catalyst. Trying to foresee where the eruption will go once it bursts free of the channels is like trying to predict the exact fault line of an earthquake. All you know in advance is something about the molten ingredients of the climax, which could include the following:

  • Economic distress, with public debt in default, entitlement trust funds in bankruptcy, mounting poverty and unemployment, trade wars, collapsing financial markets, and hyperinflation (or deflation)
  • Social distress, with violence fueled by class, race, nativism, or religion and abetted by armed gangs, underground militias, and mercenaries hired by walled communities
  • Political distress, with institutional collapse, open tax revolts, one-party hegemony, major constitutional change, secessionism, authoritarianism, and altered national borders
  • Military distress, with war against terrorists or foreign regimes equipped with weapons of mass destruction 

Strauss & Howe did not predict specific events that would occur during the next Fourth Turning. As trained historians and economists, they simply analyzed the environment created by our leaders over the last few decades. If the thought leaders in the country had not been blinded by their ideological biases, they would have seen that the next Fourth Turning Crisis would be channeled by un-payable debt obligations, reckless financial schemes, religious ideology, political corruption, class warfare, foreign conflicts, and terrorism. The molten ingredients are travelling along the channels outlined above. What happens next is anybody’s guess.

The economic distress worsens for the average American every day. The recovery propaganda circulated by the power elite through the mass media is a fraud. Only those with wealth and power have recovered. The middle class sinks further into poverty and despair. Unemployment remains at Depression levels and the entire economic faux recovery rests with Ben Bernanke’s printing press. The only question that remains is whether the United States experiences a deflationary collapse or a hyper-inflationary collapse. The country is currently experiencing stagflation as the things we need (energy, food, clothing) inflate, while wages stagnate and our home values deflate. Bernanke and his minions at the Federal Reserve will choose inflation as their poison because it will allow their banker masters to pilage the remaining wealth of the middle class before the final collapse of the U.S. dollar.

Social distress has manifested itself over the last year in Arizona as the illegal immigration issue has turned violent, with State government and Federal government in conflict. The social welfare net is being strained through the payment of billions in unemployment compensation, food stamps, and other welfare programs. When this net breaks, all hell will break loose in the decaying urban Mecca’s. Political distress is at historic levels as the Tea Party battles liberals and its own neo-con Republican establishment. States are refusing to implement the Federally mandated Obamacare. Governors are battling teacher’s unions, firemen unions, and police unions in an effort to regain control of their out of control budgets. The 2012 elections could prove to be a tipping point for the country.

Military distress is already extreme, even before a major conflict is thrust upon the country. The two wars of choice in the Middle East have drained trillions from the treasury of a declining empire. The all volunteer military has been stretched to the breaking point. The multi-billion dollar high tech weaponry has proven useless against “terrorists” who fade into mountains until they can strike again. As revolution erupts across the Middle East, the U.S. is helpless and has no credibility, as they have propped up the thugs and dictators who are slaughtering their people. The daily  intensification of volcanic eruptions across the globe is clearly evident to all but the most linear thinkers. We’ve entered the Fourth Turning and there is no turning back.

Prophecy or Destiny

“Soon after the catalyst, a national election will produce a sweeping political realignment, as one faction or coalition capitalizes on a new public demand for decisive action. Republicans, Democrats, or perhaps a new party will decisively win the long partisan tug of war. This new regime will enthrone itself for the duration of the Crisis. Regardless of its ideology, that new leadership will assert public authority and demand private sacrifice.  Eventually, all of America’s lesser problems will combine into one giant problem. The very survival of the society will feel at stake, as leaders lead and people follow. The emergent society may be something better, a nation that sustains its Framers’ visions with a robust new pride. Or it may be something unspeakably worse. The Fourth Turning will be a time of glory or ruin.” – Strauss & Howe – The Fourth Turning

The election of Barack Obama in 2008 did not usher in a sweeping political realignment of the country. The actions he has taken in the last two years have maintained the status quo. The financial industry complex, military industrial complex, and big pharma complex are stronger and more powerful today than they were in 2008. The 2010 midterm elections were a decisive rejection of Obama’s policies. Those who think he will be re-elected in 2012 are not seeing the big picture. Previous Fourth Turnings have ushered in strong dominating Prophet (Boomer) leaders who used any means necessary to bring the country through the Crisis. Wishy washy politically calculating compromiser leaders do not cut it during a time of intense Crisis. The number of vulnerable Democratic Senators up for re-election in 2012 virtually insures that Republicans will control both houses of Congress in 2012. A legitimate 3rd Party candidate does not appear to be on the horizon. The onset of phase two of the economic meltdown will determine the next President of the United States.

Before the 2012 elections, I expect a violent downturn in our economic fortunes spurred by a continued fall in real estate values, generating more debt losses for the financial industry, and a loss of confidence in the U.S. fiat currency, as our foreign creditors balk at lending more money to an already insolvent empire that is incapable of taking corrective budgetary actions. The resulting economic turmoil, crashing stock market, rising interest rates, and massive unemployment will lead the nation to seek a strong, decisive, authoritative leader who will boldly lead the country through the remainder of the Crisis. Will it be Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney, Chris Christie, or a Lincoln like figure who hasn’t even entered the national stage yet? This question is unanswerable today. But, the country will turn to someone with answers. Strauss and Howe clearly state how important the next 10 to 15 years will be:

“Decisive events will occur – events so vast, powerful, and unique that they lie beyond today’s wildest hypotheses. These events will inspire great documents and speeches, visions of a new political order being framed. People will discover a hitherto unimagined capacity to fight and die, and to let their children fight and die, for a communal cause. The Spirit of America will return, because there will be no other choice. Thus will Americans reenact the great ancient myth of the ekpyrosis. Thus will we achieve our next rendezvous with destiny.”

I’m convinced that decisive events will transpire over the next decade that will push our country to the brink. The country is on an unsustainable path and we will either crash and burn or take the actions needed to avert catastrophe. Vast powerful events on an incomprehensible scale await. Events as farfetched as a Weimar like hyperinflationary economic collapse, the detonation of a nuclear bomb in a major American city, the secession of one or more States from the Union, the collapse of our oil based economy due to peak oil and/or revolution and turmoil in the Middle East, or a worldwide pandemic, will become not only realistic, but probable. Are these events any more improbable than a 9.0 earthquake, leading to a 33 foot high tsunami wave, which triggers nuclear meltdowns at two separate nuclear power plants? If you had outlined that scenario a week ago, you would have been classified as a crazy prophet of doom.

At this point in time, it doesn’t seem possible that a communal cause could rejuvenate the Spirit of America in a manner that would lead me to be willing to fight and die or send my three sons to fight and die. An imminent threat, such as the Axis Powers during World War II, the North and South seeing each other as a threat during the Civil War, or the threat from a foreign empire during the American Revolution, does not appear evident today. The war on terror is a concept, rather than a real war. The absence of a known foreign adversary makes me think that the conflict could center on our own soil between Americans. Strauss and Howe point out that history does not offer much hope in avoiding armed conflict during this Fourth Turning:

“History offers even more sobering warnings: Armed confrontation usually occurs around the climax of Crisis. If there is confrontation, it is likely to lead to war. This could be any kind of war – class war, sectional war, war against global anarchists or terrorists, or superpower war. If there is war, it is likely to culminate in total war, fought until the losing side has been rendered nil – its will broken, territory taken, and leaders captured.”

When it comes to what kind of armed confrontation, how about all of the above? The wealth distribution of the country is more heavily skewed to the “Haves” versus the “Have Nots” than any time in history. The austerity measures that are being proposed on the backs of the middle class and senior citizens, while ultra-rich bankers have been bailed out and allowed to continue pillaging the countryside, will surely lead to class conflict. Generational warfare between the Boomers who want what they are “owed” and younger generations stuck with the bill will flare up in the coming years. The country has become so ideological that it can be easily split into Red States and Blue States. Could this ideological divide result in the country splitting into two or three independent countries? Would the Federal government use the armed forces to maintain one country? It happened before.

The war on terror concept has been in place for the last ten years and has resulted in draining the Treasury of trillions, exhausting our limited volunteer forces, and creating more terrorists than existed on September 10, 2001. The revolutions sweeping across Northern Africa and the Middle East are not cause for celebration in Washington DC. American foreign policy has centered on supporting thugs, despots, and dictators across this region with financial aid and weapons. The aid was absconded and sent to bank vaults in Switzerland. The weapons are being used to kill the poor revolutionaries across the region. Two American backed dictators have been deposed thus far, with Yemen likely to follow. Our allies in the region are falling with lightening speed. The loss of Saudi Arabia would portend dire consequences for the U.S. If the Middle East oil spigot is turned off, the American way of life will wither and die.

The myth of American Exceptionalism will not protect the country from the revolutionary tsunami that is sweeping the globe. America was not chosen by God as the country that would lead the world for eternity. The hubris and overreach of the American empire has bankrupted the nation. Greed, corruption and arrogance are not limited to North African dictatorships. Crony capitalism supporting a vast military empire, financed by a banker controlled Federal Reserve has failed. Its failure will become clear as the Fourth Turning intensifies and sweeps away the old order. Who or what replaces the old order is unknown. Much will depend on the generations and their response to the Crisis.

Bad Moon Rising

Robert Strauss and Neil Howe had no interest in trying to predict the future. As historians, they wanted to understand how the past could give clues to what would happen in the future. They discovered a pattern of behavior by generational archetypes across centuries of Anglo-American history. They identified the issues that would drive the next Fourth Turning. They predicted the timing. The accuracy of their prophecy thus far, has been uncanny. The rhythms of history continue. The outcome of this Crisis is unknowable, but there is most certainly a bad moon rising.

Thus might the next Fourth Turning end in apocalypse – or glory. The nation could be ruined, its democracy destroyed, and millions of people scattered or killed. Or America could enter a new golden age, triumphantly applying shared values to improve the human condition. The rhythms of history do not reveal the outcome of the coming Crisis; all they suggest is the timing and dimension. – Strauss & Howe – The Fourth Turning

I see the bad moon arising.
I see trouble on the way.
I see earthquakes and lightning.
I see bad times today.

Don’t go around tonight,
Well, it’s bound to take your life,
There’s a bad moon on the rise.

I hear hurricanes ablowing.
I know the end is coming soon.
I fear rivers over flowing.
I hear the voice of rage and ruin.

Hope you got your things together.
Hope you are quite prepared to die.
Looks like we’re in for nasty weather.
One eye is taken for an eye.

Credence Clearwater Revival – Bad Moon Rising

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Reverse Engineer
Reverse Engineer
March 13, 2011 7:56 pm

so, after the fourth turning winds down in 2025, how do you project the “rebirth” going?

RE

Reverse Engineer
Reverse Engineer
March 13, 2011 8:15 pm

@admin
not asking for a definitive prognostication. just your best guess. put it up against my best guess. loser buys the beer.

RE

Reverse Engineer
Reverse Engineer
March 13, 2011 8:30 pm

also,do not try to buy the beer with yellow metal paperweights. bring something of Real Value with you.

RE

SSS
SSS
March 13, 2011 8:37 pm

Excellent article, Admin.

The events in Japan are likely to increase the rate of spin on the downward spiral of the whirlpool the planet is heading for. Japan is an extremely wealthy country, and the Japanese catastrophe can only mean one thing for poorer countries: they will get poorer and even less stable.

Japan will, in its recovery efforts, start to purchase huge amounts of commodities from the global markets, from food grains to (eventually) oil. The increased demand will drive up even further the already increasing commodity prices.

Which leaves the poorer countries in a pickle. Businesses and governments can’t afford the increased prices. Drives up local prices for just about everything. People can’t afford it. Unrest. Lots of unrest.

And we share a very long and porous border with an extremely corrupt Third World nation.

Reverse Engineer
Reverse Engineer
March 13, 2011 8:46 pm

poor dodge, the 7M thing is as worn out as smokey’s tube steak.

really, make your best guess for the geopolitical situation in 2025. not strauss and howe, jim quinns best guess. inquiring minds want to.know.

RE

flash
flash
March 13, 2011 8:49 pm

“Winston Churchill wrote the definitive history of World War II in 1948 ” .

Correct , Churchill was in a mad rush to create the smokescreen that would cover his tracks in getting the whole damn show off to a bloody start.He did not want history painting him as the insane blood thirsty aristocracy he in fact was.
And WC had a nice hand in fomenting WWI as well.

Buchanan rakes Churchill’s greasy ass ass over the coals in his book Churchill, Hitler, and “The Unnecessary War”: How Britain Lost Its Empire and the West Lost the World

Was World War II worth it?
“Other questions arise. If Britain endured six years of war and hundreds of thousands of dead in a war she declared to defend Polish freedom, and Polish freedom was lost to communism, how can we say Britain won the war?

If the West went to war to stop Hitler from dominating Eastern and Central Europe, and Eastern and Central Europe ended up under a tyranny even more odious, as Bush implies, did Western Civilization win the war?

In 1938, Churchill wanted Britain to fight for Czechoslovakia. Chamberlain refused. In 1939, Churchill wanted Britain to fight for Poland. Chamberlain agreed. At the end of the war Churchill wanted and got, Czechoslovakia and Poland were in Stalin’s empire.

How, then, can men proclaim Churchill “Man of the Century”?” Pat Bucharest

Hope@ZeroKelvin
Hope@ZeroKelvin
March 13, 2011 8:53 pm

Oh, FFFF. Yet ANOTHER, Jim Quinn masterpiece. (No, I am not kissin’ ass, just recognizing genius when I see it.)

How to respond?

I feel like I am at the crest of this:

Hope@ZeroKelvin
Hope@ZeroKelvin
March 13, 2011 8:53 pm

Oh hell, I forgot my graphic.

Hope@ZeroKelvin
Hope@ZeroKelvin
March 13, 2011 8:57 pm

Crap, I did it AGAIN.

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Except that I am NOT that guy on the surfboard, that is probably some guy from Goldman Sachs.

I, and most of humanity, is probably part of this:

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Smokey
Smokey
March 13, 2011 8:59 pm

Pat Buchanan is an unabashed protectionist cur. That is a fact.

Neville Chamberlain was a proud cur.

Winston Churchill is universally regarded by historians as a great man. For good reason.

MuckAbout
MuckAbout
March 13, 2011 9:01 pm

Good article, Jim, as usual.

And now, everyone sleep tight and have beautiful dreams. My “We Are Doomed” cup just set up a sympathetic vibration atop my printer and popped off glaze as I read the article.

I’m glad to be a Silent and I really don’t need any of this shit.

MA

flash
flash
March 13, 2011 9:07 pm

Smokey, define protectionism.

You know as much about Churchill as you do toilet etiquette.

I’ ve got as much faith in mainstream historians as I do a shred of truth emanating from that shithole in DC that passes for a nation government,

Carodox
Carodox
March 13, 2011 9:12 pm

Who is the administrator?

Hope@ZeroKelvin
Hope@ZeroKelvin
March 13, 2011 9:12 pm

@Muck: Don’t be such a freaking pussy. I am currently watching Elliot Ness (Kevin Costner) and his side-kick played by the inestimable Sean Connery take down a Capone whiskey-$USD transfer at the US-Canadian border.

MEN who faced automatic weapons fire. MEN who could not be bought off. MEN who stared evil and corruption in the face and said NO MORE.

So, Muck, although I truely like you, are YOU one of these MEN?

Because I AM, even though I am a GIRL.

And it just ain’t Muck. Are there any more real MEN out there, anymore?

flash
flash
March 13, 2011 9:20 pm

‘Greed, corruption and arrogance are not limited to North African dictatorships. Crony capitalism supporting a vast military empire, financed by a banker controlled Federal Reserve has failed. Its failure will become clear as the Fourth Turning intensifies and sweeps away the old order.’

Great stuff Jim; The African thugs learned their thieving craft from Western thugs.

But hopeful this corrupt nest egg built by the Thugacracy about to be cracked. It appears Anon ratchets the game up a notch in demanding Bernan ckes resignation and an end to rule by oligarchy.. ..this could get damn interesting fast

A99 Operation Empire State Rebellion – Communication #1

Hacker Group Anonymous Brings Peaceful Revolution To America: Will Engage In Civil Disobedience Until Bernanke Steps Down

Submitted by Tyler Durden on 03/12/2011 21:30 -0500

The world’s most (in)famous hacker group – Anonymous – known for effectively shutting down their hacking nemesis security firm (with clients such as Morgan Stanley and, unfortunately for them, Bank of America)- HBGary, advocating the cause of Wikileaks, and the threat made by one of its members that evidence of fraud by Bank of America will be released on Monday, has just launched communication #1 in its Operation “Empire State Rebellion.” The goal – engage in “a relentless campaign of non-violent, peaceful, civil disobedience” until Ben Bernanke steps down and the “Primary Dealers within the Federal Reserve banking system be broken up and held accountable for rigging markets and destroying the global economy effective immediately.”

The Anonymous manifesto:

* We are a decentralized non-violent resistance movement, which seeks to restore the rule of law and fight back against the organized criminal class.
* One-tenth of one percent of the population has consolidated wealth in unprecedented fashion and launched an all-out economic war against 99.9% of the population.
* We are not affiliated with either wing of the two-party oligarchy. We seek an end to the corrupted two-party system by ending the campaign finance and lobbying racket.
* Above all, we aim to break up the global banking cartel centered at the Federal Reserve, International Monetary Fund, Bank of International Settlement and World Bank.
* We demand that the primary dealers within the Federal Reserve banking system be broken up and held accountable for rigging markets and destroying the global economy, effective immediately.
* As a first sign of good faith we demand Ben Bernanke step down as Federal Reserve chairman.
* Until our demands are met and a rule of law is restored, we will engage in a relentless campaign of non-violent, peaceful, civil disobedience.
* In our next communication we will announce Operation Empire State Rebellion.

Glorious Chairman Ben – our free advice to you: change your e-mail password stat…

Smokey
Smokey
March 13, 2011 9:23 pm

Carodox,

The Administrator is the ONE person you do not want to fuck with. He is arguably the baddest person alive.

You want to fuck with Mike Tyson? Fine. Bitch slap him.

You want to fuck with a rottweiler? Child’s play.

But do NOT, under any circumstances, piss off the Administrator.

You’d rather jack off a mountain lion in a phone booth with barbed wire than fuck with the Administrator.

The Administrator is the author of this fine article.

flash
flash
March 13, 2011 9:30 pm

@ Hope@ZeroKelvin

When I was a I kid I spent a lot of time in Austin hanging out a joint called the Armadillo World Headquarters…ever hear of it?

Smokey
Smokey
March 13, 2011 9:33 pm

flash,

I don’t need to define protectionism. There is nothing to debate.

Pat Buchanan openly advocates protectionism. That was damn near his entire fucking platform in both his presidential campaigns.

NOBODY (except you ) disputes this.

JFC, google it if you doubt it.

MuckAbout
MuckAbout
March 13, 2011 9:42 pm

@Hopeful-where-nothing moves:

You dare call me a pussy? I’ve served my time, got shot at in the service of the FSofA (before it turned into an America I don’t recognize), volunteered my time and body to help ordinary people in distress because I could and achieved a significant amount of physical damage one time defending two women from the advances of several assholes who were insisting on their right to rape and pillage.

So kiss my ass, lady. A fucking TV program is fantasy. Wait until your butt is on the line and see if you have the balls to stand up and be counted. Until you do, go play with yourself and watch Kevin Costner jack off in a corner of a movie screen that has nothing to do with real life.

You are living in a fantasy. Keep it off here. TBP is real world and never forget it.

Yours despicably,

MA

flash
flash
March 13, 2011 9:45 pm

Smokey – What you call Protectionism I call Fair Trade. There is no animal such as the misnomer free trade when it’s with countries that have no labor regulations, EPA standards minimum wages or massive taxation and licensing fees. I agree with Pat 100% .America first.

Hope@ZeroKelvin
Hope@ZeroKelvin
March 13, 2011 9:46 pm

@flash: Sadly, no. I spent most of my time in medical school in Houston trying not to spend one extra (thin) dime out of my (meager) budget. When I wasn’t studying my (limited) brains out, I was trying to fulfill my Army Reserve requirements.

Now, however, I am in a VERY different space/time continuuuuuummmm. If you are up for margharitas, or whatever, at this Armidillo W-HG, my treat for the first round, you only have to say.

My email is [email protected].

Actually, it looks like there is a lot of Texas folks on this board, how about a meet up?

flash
flash
March 13, 2011 9:53 pm

Hope@ZeroKelvin says:

If you are up for margharitas, or whatever, at this Armidillo W-HG, my treat for the first round, you only have to say.

Thanks for the kind offer , but sadly the ‘dillo was torn down in ’81 and the last time was in Texas there was this little altercation with a Texas Ranger that ended with a large caliber wheel gun pointed at my forehead head and I’m still not sure I’m even allowed back in the state….but I do love Texas.The best state I’ve ever lived in or visited. The native Texans are 100% real good folk .cept the law of course.

Hope@ZeroKelvin
Hope@ZeroKelvin
March 13, 2011 9:56 pm

@Muck: AHHH, that was great. No seriously, I KNEW you had that mojo in you. You do not disappoint.

Just keep that fire burning so you can continue to defend those that cannot defend themselves, that’s all I ask. Because your last several posts had me wondering about you.

And, also, because, sadly, our nation seems to be populated by limp-wristed metrosexuals who can’t find their collective derriers’s with both hands and a map.

And yes, I do live in the real world, a woman in a man’s world, fortunately, this is NOT difficult, lol.

Geez, what a state we’re in when a GIRL has to provoke the MANLINESS

MuckAbout
MuckAbout
March 13, 2011 9:56 pm

@Hope: Looks like you’re in heat too….

MA

Smokey
Smokey
March 13, 2011 9:57 pm

Hope,

Very classy response.

Hope@ZeroKelvin
Hope@ZeroKelvin
March 13, 2011 9:59 pm

Ooops, ahem, too quick on the submit button, premature posting, lol.

Ahem.

The MANLY MAN ‘ness that I KNOW is out there.

FWIW: Real women love and appreciate REAL MEN.

Steve Hogan
Steve Hogan
March 13, 2011 10:02 pm

A fine summary of how screwed we are, admin.

One nit: Mitt Romney as a decisive leader? You can’t be serious. The man couldn’t lead his way out of a soggy paper bag. But he’s got great hair. Should serve the country well when we’re sinking into the abyss.

flash
flash
March 13, 2011 10:05 pm

Hope, Muck don’t need no stimulating..

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Hope@ZeroKelvin
Hope@ZeroKelvin
March 13, 2011 10:06 pm

@flash: Oh, what a shame, very few people in my social circle have a fucking clue about what is going on, oh well.

@Muck: Dude, it is BOTH the bucks and the does that come into season during deer season. Heh, heh, you can pick off either one of them. HOWEVER, it ALWAYS takes 2 to tango. Wimmins needs mens, mens need wimmins. In life, as in on the TBP, there is always two sides to every story.

And now to bed. I have chickens to feed at daybreak and a 12 week old yellow lab puppy that will need a potty break in 3 hours and I am not as young as I used to be, lol.

Although that, as in most things: It is not the years, it is the mileage.

Reverse Engineer
Reverse Engineer
March 13, 2011 10:09 pm

NOBODY, not even the Illuminati FUCKS with ANONYMOUS.

Anonymous is the UNION of the smart and disenfranchised. Anonymous is the POWER of the collective. Anonymous are the BORG.

RE-SISTANCE IS FUTILE.

RE

Smokey
Smokey
March 13, 2011 10:09 pm

Steve Hogan,

You aren’t fit to lick Mitt Romney’s hairy balls.

flash
flash
March 13, 2011 10:15 pm

Reverse Engineer says:

NOBODY, not even the Illuminati FUCKS with ANONYMOUS.

Supposedly tomorrow morning ANON drops the hammer on BOA.
Yeah. gotta get more popcorn.

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Steve Hogan
Steve Hogan
March 13, 2011 10:16 pm

Smokeless, you’re as welcome as a fart in an elevator. Why don’t you just go away?

Assuming you won’t, maybe you can enlighten everyone about Mitt’s CV. Tell us about his wonderful stint as governor of Taxachusetts. And that health care plan he foisted on the state has all the hallmarks of the fucking disaster that awaits us with Obamacare.

Go ahead, Smokeless. Dazzle us with Mitt’s track record. Be sure to ignore the lies, half-truths, flip-flops, and all the other greasy things he’s renowned for.

MuckAbout
MuckAbout
March 13, 2011 10:31 pm

And fuck you too, FLASH….

I have been stimulated by the very best (Brazilian ladies learn what it’s all about at 14, enjoy it all their lives and take the prize “hands down” !).

MA

Colma Rising
Colma Rising
March 13, 2011 10:33 pm

That a grand cycle of human interaction and epic events is at work doesn’t seem so outlandish these days, that’s for sure. That Strauss and Howe have taken this esoteric subject and have found in their research any sort of discernable pattern of human events is ominous against the backround of our world’s events these days.

In the face of horrendous events, the crucible of changes, communication, warfare, and distorted data the “storm” sure seems to be arriving. Troubles in the world seem to have the end-game of hanging questions built in. If anything could be said for certain, it is that the youngsters… the millenials… the kids today, are going to be the ones dealing with this head on.

How they deal with this too is really up in the air. The ones I know (I’m a childless Xer) all seem smarter than I thought I was at their age. Anybody else notice that, or is it just me? My nieces and nephews really amaze me in that respect every time I see them. Other than that, I see such a mixture of contradictory morals and a worldview in the 20-somethings I know, that I am both encouraged and scared shitless…

Something tells me these kids are going to step up in a big way when the intensity of events picks up. But that’s just a gut feeling.

The specifics about the future are up in the air. That we’re all fucked in general right now isn’t so much.

Geat piece, Admin. Get’s me thinking without just the lizard brain.

Smokey
Smokey
March 13, 2011 10:36 pm

Steve Hogan,

Romney is a consensus builder who works across party lines as necessary. His work at the Olympics is legend, and an excellent indication of how he would perform as president.

He’s not a fucking CUR, like Rand and Ron Paul. Instead, he believes in defending this country from diaper wearing Islamic extremists.

Steve Hogan
Steve Hogan
March 13, 2011 10:47 pm

Romney’s a consensus-builder, eh Smokeless? There’s another term for that. It’s called bipartisanship, which means Democrats and Republicans agreeing to fuck the American people. We don’t need consensus. We need someone with a backbone. A big pair of cajones too. Mitt couldn’t balance his checkbook, and he certainly isn’t going to lead the US out of the disaster that awaits. The man is an empty suit. You’re too damn stupid to figure that out.

As for the diaper-wearing Islamic extremists, they number in the hundreds, and almost every one of them is an extremist because we’re over there killing their families. Ever heard of blowback, asshole? Of course not. You’re too busy sucking Mitt’s dick to crack open a book and read about our disastrous foreign policy.

Buckhed
Buckhed
March 13, 2011 10:49 pm

Smokey…as a Mormon doesn’t Mitt wear a diaper of sorts ?

Colma Rising
Colma Rising
March 13, 2011 10:52 pm

Romney is a man of the people who wouldn’t be afraid to go to the 30 blocks and anounce that there will be no SNAP… we need ballsy, hip leadership to lead the way through this fourth turning.

He’s down with the bling bling:

MuckAbout
MuckAbout
March 13, 2011 11:03 pm

Let’s see if we can draft Chris Christie for 2012. He’s chubby and cute but he got cojones too.

MA

Smokey
Smokey
March 13, 2011 11:03 pm

Steve Hogan,

Coming from an admitted anarchist, I have a rough time taking you seriously. I mean, shit, from someone who openly rejects the Constitution of the USA, you have a lot to say about the way things should work.

Was 9/11 blowback, douchebag ? Was the first WTC attack blowback, faggot ? How about the USS Cole, cocksucker ? How about our embassies that were hit in the eighties, dicksucker, at Riyadh and Libya? All of those are pre 9/11.

How about the HUNDREDS of terrorist attacks by Islamic radicals against countries overseas since 9/11 ? Were those attacks blowback, cocksucker?

To even make a goddamn asinine statement that Islamic extremists number in the hundreds shows the world what a goddamn fool you are.

I tossed your wife a cup of Sticky Stuff last night. She gulped it down and had a big smile on her face afterwards. She sucks dick like a champ.

Reverse Engineer
Reverse Engineer
March 13, 2011 11:06 pm

the problem with strauss and howe is one of limited vision. they only see “saeculums”, basically generational history. they go no deeper into the supercycle of civilizations which has aperiodicity around 1632 years long. strauss and howe are generally accurate for the limited scope they consider, but not helpful in understanding civilizaation supercycles. so their fourth turning stuff is of only limited utility in this situation.

RE

llpoh
llpoh
March 13, 2011 11:08 pm

Hope – you talk about defending those who cannot defwnd themselves. Unfortunately this group is expanding out of control, aided and abetted by or government at every turn. We are growing the Free Shit Army on a daily basis, and are creating untold millions who are unable to defend themselves. I for one have no interest in defending their sorry asses.

Neither do I have any interest in defending too many who cannot defend themselves overseas. Churchill is spot on – these folks could have acted early and pitched the wannabe dictators out early and easily. But no, that didn’t happen. Now that the situation is unbearable, pretty please come help us by enforcing a no fly zone, etc. Fuck that.

I am happy to help the truly defenseless. Unfortunately the definition currently in play is one I do not recognize.

Jmarz
Jmarz
March 13, 2011 11:10 pm

Smokey vs Steve Hogan

Smokey is fucking ruthless so I have my money on him although, I agree with Steve that 9/11 was blowback.

Smokey
Smokey
March 13, 2011 11:16 pm

People sail around the world, but the Flat Earth Society continues to flourish.

Steve Hogan
Steve Hogan
March 13, 2011 11:19 pm

Good God, Smokeless. You have GOT to be the dumbest fuck on the planet. Do you think US foreign policy began on 9/10/2001? Are you that stupid?

Who has blindly supported Israel against the Palestinians since 1948?

Who had bases in Saudi Arabia, the holiest of Islamic sites, during the 1990s?

Who overthrew the democratically elected government in Iran in 1953, leading to the Islamic Republic we’re dealing with today?

Who imposed the most barbaric economic sanctions against Iraq for a decade, leading to the deaths of hundred of thousands of innocent children?

Who started two elective, illegal, unconstitutional wars against Islamic countries that posed no risk to US national security?

Who has been propping up repressive dictators throughout the Middle East for more than 40 years?

Are you connecting the dots, Smokeless? Go ahead. Make another revolting comment about my wife, because you’re too fucking stupid to make a rational argument.

Smokey
Smokey
March 13, 2011 11:40 pm

Steve Hogan,

The wars are not unconstitutional. If they were unconstitutional, the case would have been taken pro bono by any of tens of thousands of attorneys looking to make a name or write a book.

Since you obviously are too fucking stupid to know, the US Congress approved of the military proceedings underway now. If they did not approve, DUMBASS, they’d bring the troops home.

Please tell me that you don’t really believe that USA economic sanctions led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent children. You can’t be that goddamn stupid. A fucking brain dead mongoloid would not contend something that is on it’s face is so obviously and absurdly incorrect.

I meant no disrespect to your wife. She promised me that she’s going to swallow a full pint of my baby batter tomorrow night, right after she takes it up the ass from Leroy, the bagboy at your local supermarket.

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