Putin is a pro…he knew to remain neutral in WWIII?
I’ve already written the book.
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September 1, 2014 9:50 am
More Sanctions: Europe Will Ban Purchase Of Russian Bonds; However Russian Gas Exports Remain Untouched
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 09/01/2014 09:18 -0400
Over the weekend, insolvent, debt-dependent Europe thought long and hard how to best punish Russia and moments ago reached yet another milestone in deep projective thought: as Reuters reports, Europeans could be barred from buying new Russian government bonds “under a package of extra sanctions over Moscow’s military role in Ukraine that European Union ambassadors were to start discussing on Monday, three EU sources said.” This will be in addition to the ban on the debt funding of most Russian corporations. So as Europe’s 7-day ultimatum for the Kremlin to “de-escalate” counts down, Putin has a choice: continue operating under a budget surplus and ignore Europe’s latest and most amusing hollow threat which is merely a projection of Europe’s biggest fears, or spend himself into oblivion as Europe has done over the past decade and become a vassal state of the Frankfurt central bank.. Somehow we doubt Putin will lose too much sleep over this latest “escalation”…
Some more details on today’s latest threat by Europe, which if nothing else has sent the ruble to a fresh record low against the dollar, leaving Europe green with envy at such currency debasement, and boosting Russian exports even more:
German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who led the drive for a tougher EU response, said on Monday that Moscow’s behaviour in Ukraine must not go unanswered, even if sanctions hurt the German economy, heavily dependent on imported Russian gas.
“I have said that (sanctions) can have an impact, also for German companies,” Merkel told a news conference in Berlin. “But I have to say there is also an impact when you are allowed to move borders in Europe and attack other countries with your troops,” she said. “Accepting Russia’s behaviour is not an option. And therefore it was necessary to prepare further sanctions.”
It remains to be seen just how much more loss-generating populism German companies are willing to take. After all, every now and then even Europe requires a reminder that it is corporations who pull the political strings. And if German corporations want Merkel gone, that just may be what they will get. For now however, all Europe gets is more “draconian” populism.
The leaders asked the executive European Commission to prepare further measures within a week, building on steps taken at the end of July, which targeted the energy, banking and defense sectors.
“I’m hearing that a ban on buying Russian government bonds could be in the next package,” an EU official familiar with the preparations said.
Tighter restrictions on dual use technologies with military as well as civilian applications could also figure, along with some more curbs on advance energy exploration equipment, the official said.
To be sure, nothing was decided: it is, after all, Europe, and decisions is what well-catered parties in the future are for.
An EU diplomat said ambassadors of the 28 member states would hold an emergency meeting on Monday at 1300 GMT to start work on a “significant” package of further measures although no immediate decisions were expected. A further meeting is set for Wednesday.
The leaders said the Commission should include in the sanctions “every person and institution dealing with the separatist groups in the Donbass”, potentially leaving a very broad area that could be targeted.
And just to add to the European flavor, and humor, the key countries in central Europe have already opined against further Russian sanctions, thus further jamming the wedge discussed previously whereby Russia has succeeded in converting that all-important safehaven, Austria, to its side.
However several EU countries heavily dependent on Russian gas, including the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Austria, are opposed to new sanctions, which require unanimous agreement.
“I consider sanctions meaningless and counterproductive,” Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico said on Sunday.
“Until we know what is the impact of the already imposed sanctions, it makes no sense to impose new ones,” Fico said. “I reserve a right to veto sanctions harming national interests of Slovakia.”
But back to the stupidity of Eurocrats, who instead of focusing on fixing their own imploding economies, are hell bent on making Russian life a living hell, in the process accelerating Europe’s mere “triple-dip” into an outright depression:
EU diplomats said the main thrust of new steps could be financial because that would hit the Russian government rather than citizens. It could be coordinated with the United States, whose measures were also focusing on the financial sector.
Two diplomats said they did not rule out a ban on the purchases of Russian sovereign bonds to make it more difficult for the Russian government to finance itself on markets. In July, the EU banned Russian state-owned banks from raising capital or from borrowing in EU markets.
And of course, since Putin knows he hold all the trump, or rather Gazprom, cards from day one, all Europe will achieve with further sanctions is even more retaliation:
Moscow has retaliated against sanctions by banning most agricultural imports from Europe and the United States. The risk of a ban on buying Russian sovereign bonds is that the Kremlin could hit back by dumping European government bonds, of which Russian state institutions have significant holdings.
Which bring us to the dumbest idea from last week: the UK’s push to exclude Russia from SWIFT… and in the process accelerate the demise of the dollar as the world’s reserve currency.
Asked about the idea that Russia could be cut off from the international money transfer system known as SWIFT, one diplomat said the idea had been floated several months ago, but that there was opposition to it among several EU countries.
“The problem is that while it would probably work well in the short-term, as in the case of Iran, in the long-term it would trigger the creation of an alternative system to SWIFT and the setting up of two alternative world transaciotn systems and nobody wants that,” the diplomat said.
It appears not everyone in Europe is an idiot.
But the punchline, and why once again anyone with half a brain knows it is all for show, is that as usual, Russia’s gas sector, which powers European industry and lights its cities, has been spared so far and will continue to be spared.
By now even 5 year olds realize that if Europe really wanted to hurt Russia, it would cut off the gas imports.
Only one problem: it can’t, as that would be economic and political suicide for Europe, and for the “infinite” political capital behind its unraveling monetary union. Everything else is noise.
Stucky
September 1, 2014 10:05 am
A VERY interesting thing took place at the 1:25 mark. Did you catch it?
The interpreter is struggling for the right word, in fact, he’s confused, and Putin says for him “the BIG CITIES”.
Sumvabitch!!! That little fucker understands English!!! HA!
Stucky
September 1, 2014 10:27 am
Holy shit. This weekend my cable provider (Verizon) added a new channel ….. Al Jazeera !!!
Here’s what Fortune magazine thinks of Al Jazeera —- “In fact, the same government of Qatar that owns Al Jazeera also funds and arms ISIS and other Islamist terrorist groups such as Hamas ..”
Fux News folks (and CuNNt also) went batshit crazy when it was announced Al Jazeera would have an English TV version. Megcunt “pepper spray is just a vegetable, basically” Kelly says that the network would activate MUSLIM SLEEPER CELLS!!! Oh my god, run mutherfuckers!!!!
Obviously, when the MSM shits their pants, then there must be a reason. Here are some of them;
—- practically no commercials … and when there are, it’s only 2 or 3 in a row … not 8, as on CuNNt and Fux
—- reporters who speak English ….. no Brits or dotheads
—- NO REPEATS!! …. in the one hour news show I watched last night, not one single story was repeated
—- extremely LITTLE editorializing ….. in fact, I hate to say it because you won’t believe me, but I was unable to detect ANY editorializing … even on the one story they did on the Gaza conflict
—- NO fluff pieces … NO product commercials masquerading as news … NO cultural bullshit, like what kind of tampons Serena Williams is wearing
.
I love it. But, I wasn’t born yesterday. I understand they have biases, agendas, blah blah, What I am saying is that IN COMPARISON TO the shit we have been fed … this is an absolute Gourmet Dinner.
Ukraine Defense Minister Warns Of “Worst Conflict Since WWII”, Shifts Forces To “Combat Full-Scale Russian Invasion”
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 09/01/2014 10:18 -0400
Unless they are tilting at windmills, the rhetoric this morning from Ukraine’s defense minister is the strongest and most actionable yet. Via his Facebook page, Valeriy Galetey accused Russia of “open aggression,” and explained that:
*RUSSIA SHIFTED TO ‘FULL-SCALE’ INVASION OF DONBAS, GELETEY SAYS
*UKRAINE HALTS ATTEMPTS TO DISLODGE REBELS: DEFENSE MINISTER
*UKRAINE SHIFTS FOCUS TO HALTING RUSSIAN INVASION, GELETEY SAYS
Earlier in the morning, US Senator Bob Menendez said he has “no doubt Russia has invaded Ukraine,” and following Ukraine requests for assistance from Europe and US, NATO responded by noting a reaction force or 3-5,000 can be ready in 48 hours.
First, Barroso claims Putin ‘blackmailed’ Europe…
Jose Manuel Barroso, who has just heard Putin. He says that when he asked about the military boundless in Ukraine, the Russian leader went to the threats: “The problem is this,” according to Barroso, “if I want to, I can take Kiev in two weeks.” As if to say, do not provoke me to anger with new sanctions.
Then the US chimes in…
*U.S. SENATOR ROBERT MENENDEZ SPEAKS IN KIEV
*UKRAINE NEEDS ASSISTANCE FROM EU, U.S., MENENDEZ SAYS
*UKRAINE-NATO ASSOCIATION IS A LONG-TERM PROSPECT, MENENDEZ SAYS
*UKRAINE-NATO PARTNERSHIP PACT WOULD BE A GOOD STEP: MENENDEZ
*UKRAINE NEEDS WEAPONS TO DEFEND ITSELF, MENENDEZ SAYS
*MENENDEZ SAYS HE HAS NO DOUBT RUSSIA HAS INVADED UKRAINE
Then NATO responds…
*NATO’S REACTION FORCE TO BE DEPLOYABLE IN 48 HOURS: OFFICIAL
*REACTION FORCE TO BE AGREED BY NATO LEADERS AT SEPT. 4-5 SUMMIT
*NATO FORCE SPEARHEAD MAY BE 3,000 TO 5,000 TROOPS: OFFICIAL
And then Ukraine steps it up…
*RUSSIA SHIFTED TO `FULL-SCALE’ INVASION OF DONBAS, GELETEY SAYS
*UKRAINE HALTS ATTEMPTS TO DISLODGE REBELS: DEFENSE MINISTER
*UKRAINE SHIFTS FOCUS TO HALTING RUSSIAN INVASION, GELETEY SAYS
*UKRAINE WARNS ON BIGGEST CONFLICT IN EUROPE SINCE WORLD WAR II
*UKRAINE ARMY SAYS REBELS BEING REPLACED BY PROFESSIONAL TROOPS
* * *
Seems like the right time to be buying US stocks..?
Welshman
September 1, 2014 11:43 am
Stuck,
Putin understands and speaks English, but really not totally fluent. When Putsy and T4C have their weekly dinner out, she coaches his English skills. Putsy will be as fluent as GB2 by Xmas.
bb
September 1, 2014 2:09 pm
The Russian leaders may be corrupt but at least they still care about the mother land and Putin seems to care about the Russian people. He is very comfortable around common Russians and you can tell he has genuine affection for them.That’s so much better then the treasonous pieces of shit we have.Obama hates America and especially white conservative people who still believe in a constitutional republic like the founding fathers. Not to worry . Hate works both ways.
IndenturedServant
September 1, 2014 3:07 pm
“More Sanctions: Europe Will Ban Purchase Of Russian Bonds; However Russian Gas Exports Remain Untouched”
Fuckin’ pussies! Those Europeans need to grow a pair and ban all Russian gas imports!
I’ve spent years in Europe. They’ve got trillions of tons of antique wood furniture they can burn for heat! Trust me! I’ve seen it with my own eyes. All hardwood too! They’ve got so much in fact that they let me send enough of it to fill my house back to the USA.
Europe don’t need no stinking Russian gas!
IndenturedServant
September 1, 2014 3:09 pm
I think T4C can have Putsy speaking english better than GB2 by Christmas.
Seeking Monsters
September 1, 2014 6:07 pm
bb, Putty would knife you in the back and not think twice about it..as for real politik [A nasty thing] Pooty is miles ahead of Oreoblamer.
Putin is a pro…he knew to remain neutral in WWIII?
I’ve already written the book.
More Sanctions: Europe Will Ban Purchase Of Russian Bonds; However Russian Gas Exports Remain Untouched
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 09/01/2014 09:18 -0400
Over the weekend, insolvent, debt-dependent Europe thought long and hard how to best punish Russia and moments ago reached yet another milestone in deep projective thought: as Reuters reports, Europeans could be barred from buying new Russian government bonds “under a package of extra sanctions over Moscow’s military role in Ukraine that European Union ambassadors were to start discussing on Monday, three EU sources said.” This will be in addition to the ban on the debt funding of most Russian corporations. So as Europe’s 7-day ultimatum for the Kremlin to “de-escalate” counts down, Putin has a choice: continue operating under a budget surplus and ignore Europe’s latest and most amusing hollow threat which is merely a projection of Europe’s biggest fears, or spend himself into oblivion as Europe has done over the past decade and become a vassal state of the Frankfurt central bank.. Somehow we doubt Putin will lose too much sleep over this latest “escalation”…
Some more details on today’s latest threat by Europe, which if nothing else has sent the ruble to a fresh record low against the dollar, leaving Europe green with envy at such currency debasement, and boosting Russian exports even more:
German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who led the drive for a tougher EU response, said on Monday that Moscow’s behaviour in Ukraine must not go unanswered, even if sanctions hurt the German economy, heavily dependent on imported Russian gas.
“I have said that (sanctions) can have an impact, also for German companies,” Merkel told a news conference in Berlin. “But I have to say there is also an impact when you are allowed to move borders in Europe and attack other countries with your troops,” she said. “Accepting Russia’s behaviour is not an option. And therefore it was necessary to prepare further sanctions.”
It remains to be seen just how much more loss-generating populism German companies are willing to take. After all, every now and then even Europe requires a reminder that it is corporations who pull the political strings. And if German corporations want Merkel gone, that just may be what they will get. For now however, all Europe gets is more “draconian” populism.
The leaders asked the executive European Commission to prepare further measures within a week, building on steps taken at the end of July, which targeted the energy, banking and defense sectors.
“I’m hearing that a ban on buying Russian government bonds could be in the next package,” an EU official familiar with the preparations said.
Tighter restrictions on dual use technologies with military as well as civilian applications could also figure, along with some more curbs on advance energy exploration equipment, the official said.
To be sure, nothing was decided: it is, after all, Europe, and decisions is what well-catered parties in the future are for.
An EU diplomat said ambassadors of the 28 member states would hold an emergency meeting on Monday at 1300 GMT to start work on a “significant” package of further measures although no immediate decisions were expected. A further meeting is set for Wednesday.
The leaders said the Commission should include in the sanctions “every person and institution dealing with the separatist groups in the Donbass”, potentially leaving a very broad area that could be targeted.
And just to add to the European flavor, and humor, the key countries in central Europe have already opined against further Russian sanctions, thus further jamming the wedge discussed previously whereby Russia has succeeded in converting that all-important safehaven, Austria, to its side.
However several EU countries heavily dependent on Russian gas, including the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Austria, are opposed to new sanctions, which require unanimous agreement.
“I consider sanctions meaningless and counterproductive,” Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico said on Sunday.
“Until we know what is the impact of the already imposed sanctions, it makes no sense to impose new ones,” Fico said. “I reserve a right to veto sanctions harming national interests of Slovakia.”
But back to the stupidity of Eurocrats, who instead of focusing on fixing their own imploding economies, are hell bent on making Russian life a living hell, in the process accelerating Europe’s mere “triple-dip” into an outright depression:
EU diplomats said the main thrust of new steps could be financial because that would hit the Russian government rather than citizens. It could be coordinated with the United States, whose measures were also focusing on the financial sector.
Two diplomats said they did not rule out a ban on the purchases of Russian sovereign bonds to make it more difficult for the Russian government to finance itself on markets. In July, the EU banned Russian state-owned banks from raising capital or from borrowing in EU markets.
And of course, since Putin knows he hold all the trump, or rather Gazprom, cards from day one, all Europe will achieve with further sanctions is even more retaliation:
Moscow has retaliated against sanctions by banning most agricultural imports from Europe and the United States. The risk of a ban on buying Russian sovereign bonds is that the Kremlin could hit back by dumping European government bonds, of which Russian state institutions have significant holdings.
Which bring us to the dumbest idea from last week: the UK’s push to exclude Russia from SWIFT… and in the process accelerate the demise of the dollar as the world’s reserve currency.
Asked about the idea that Russia could be cut off from the international money transfer system known as SWIFT, one diplomat said the idea had been floated several months ago, but that there was opposition to it among several EU countries.
“The problem is that while it would probably work well in the short-term, as in the case of Iran, in the long-term it would trigger the creation of an alternative system to SWIFT and the setting up of two alternative world transaciotn systems and nobody wants that,” the diplomat said.
It appears not everyone in Europe is an idiot.
But the punchline, and why once again anyone with half a brain knows it is all for show, is that as usual, Russia’s gas sector, which powers European industry and lights its cities, has been spared so far and will continue to be spared.
By now even 5 year olds realize that if Europe really wanted to hurt Russia, it would cut off the gas imports.
Only one problem: it can’t, as that would be economic and political suicide for Europe, and for the “infinite” political capital behind its unraveling monetary union. Everything else is noise.
A VERY interesting thing took place at the 1:25 mark. Did you catch it?
The interpreter is struggling for the right word, in fact, he’s confused, and Putin says for him “the BIG CITIES”.
Sumvabitch!!! That little fucker understands English!!! HA!
Holy shit. This weekend my cable provider (Verizon) added a new channel ….. Al Jazeera !!!
Here’s what Fortune magazine thinks of Al Jazeera —- “In fact, the same government of Qatar that owns Al Jazeera also funds and arms ISIS and other Islamist terrorist groups such as Hamas ..”
Fux News folks (and CuNNt also) went batshit crazy when it was announced Al Jazeera would have an English TV version. Megcunt “pepper spray is just a vegetable, basically” Kelly says that the network would activate MUSLIM SLEEPER CELLS!!! Oh my god, run mutherfuckers!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuJoDKhS1yk&feature=player_detailpage
Obviously, when the MSM shits their pants, then there must be a reason. Here are some of them;
—- practically no commercials … and when there are, it’s only 2 or 3 in a row … not 8, as on CuNNt and Fux
—- reporters who speak English ….. no Brits or dotheads
—- NO REPEATS!! …. in the one hour news show I watched last night, not one single story was repeated
—- extremely LITTLE editorializing ….. in fact, I hate to say it because you won’t believe me, but I was unable to detect ANY editorializing … even on the one story they did on the Gaza conflict
—- NO fluff pieces … NO product commercials masquerading as news … NO cultural bullshit, like what kind of tampons Serena Williams is wearing
.
I love it. But, I wasn’t born yesterday. I understand they have biases, agendas, blah blah, What I am saying is that IN COMPARISON TO the shit we have been fed … this is an absolute Gourmet Dinner.
Ukraine Defense Minister Warns Of “Worst Conflict Since WWII”, Shifts Forces To “Combat Full-Scale Russian Invasion”
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 09/01/2014 10:18 -0400
Unless they are tilting at windmills, the rhetoric this morning from Ukraine’s defense minister is the strongest and most actionable yet. Via his Facebook page, Valeriy Galetey accused Russia of “open aggression,” and explained that:
*RUSSIA SHIFTED TO ‘FULL-SCALE’ INVASION OF DONBAS, GELETEY SAYS
*UKRAINE HALTS ATTEMPTS TO DISLODGE REBELS: DEFENSE MINISTER
*UKRAINE SHIFTS FOCUS TO HALTING RUSSIAN INVASION, GELETEY SAYS
Earlier in the morning, US Senator Bob Menendez said he has “no doubt Russia has invaded Ukraine,” and following Ukraine requests for assistance from Europe and US, NATO responded by noting a reaction force or 3-5,000 can be ready in 48 hours.
First, Barroso claims Putin ‘blackmailed’ Europe…
Jose Manuel Barroso, who has just heard Putin. He says that when he asked about the military boundless in Ukraine, the Russian leader went to the threats: “The problem is this,” according to Barroso, “if I want to, I can take Kiev in two weeks.” As if to say, do not provoke me to anger with new sanctions.
Then the US chimes in…
*U.S. SENATOR ROBERT MENENDEZ SPEAKS IN KIEV
*UKRAINE NEEDS ASSISTANCE FROM EU, U.S., MENENDEZ SAYS
*UKRAINE-NATO ASSOCIATION IS A LONG-TERM PROSPECT, MENENDEZ SAYS
*UKRAINE-NATO PARTNERSHIP PACT WOULD BE A GOOD STEP: MENENDEZ
*UKRAINE NEEDS WEAPONS TO DEFEND ITSELF, MENENDEZ SAYS
*MENENDEZ SAYS HE HAS NO DOUBT RUSSIA HAS INVADED UKRAINE
Then NATO responds…
*NATO’S REACTION FORCE TO BE DEPLOYABLE IN 48 HOURS: OFFICIAL
*REACTION FORCE TO BE AGREED BY NATO LEADERS AT SEPT. 4-5 SUMMIT
*NATO FORCE SPEARHEAD MAY BE 3,000 TO 5,000 TROOPS: OFFICIAL
And then Ukraine steps it up…
*RUSSIA SHIFTED TO `FULL-SCALE’ INVASION OF DONBAS, GELETEY SAYS
*UKRAINE HALTS ATTEMPTS TO DISLODGE REBELS: DEFENSE MINISTER
*UKRAINE SHIFTS FOCUS TO HALTING RUSSIAN INVASION, GELETEY SAYS
*UKRAINE WARNS ON BIGGEST CONFLICT IN EUROPE SINCE WORLD WAR II
*UKRAINE ARMY SAYS REBELS BEING REPLACED BY PROFESSIONAL TROOPS
* * *
Seems like the right time to be buying US stocks..?
Stuck,
Putin understands and speaks English, but really not totally fluent. When Putsy and T4C have their weekly dinner out, she coaches his English skills. Putsy will be as fluent as GB2 by Xmas.
The Russian leaders may be corrupt but at least they still care about the mother land and Putin seems to care about the Russian people. He is very comfortable around common Russians and you can tell he has genuine affection for them.That’s so much better then the treasonous pieces of shit we have.Obama hates America and especially white conservative people who still believe in a constitutional republic like the founding fathers. Not to worry . Hate works both ways.
“More Sanctions: Europe Will Ban Purchase Of Russian Bonds; However Russian Gas Exports Remain Untouched”
Fuckin’ pussies! Those Europeans need to grow a pair and ban all Russian gas imports!
I’ve spent years in Europe. They’ve got trillions of tons of antique wood furniture they can burn for heat! Trust me! I’ve seen it with my own eyes. All hardwood too! They’ve got so much in fact that they let me send enough of it to fill my house back to the USA.
Europe don’t need no stinking Russian gas!
I think T4C can have Putsy speaking english better than GB2 by Christmas.
bb, Putty would knife you in the back and not think twice about it..as for real politik [A nasty thing] Pooty is miles ahead of Oreoblamer.