There is some fucked up shit going on today. Does anyone else get a weird feeling that the shit is already hitting the fan and we don’t know it yet? Overnight the Chinese stock market crashes by 5% despite every effort of their communist government to stem the tide.
Then every United/Continental plane in the country was grounded because their computer system went down.
Then Zero Hedge went down for over an hour as they were overwhelmed with traffic. That means a Denial of Service Attack. I know all about those. The attack appears to be ongoing as their site continues to experience loading problems.
The Wall Street Journal website has also been down today.
And now the NYSE has been down for over an hour. Stocks in the United States cannot be traded. It’s funny how this only happens when the stock market is down by 200 points. How come the NYSE never breaks on big time up days? Never.
Did the powers that be “break” the stock market because it was about to plunge by 1,000 points? Are they purposely manipulating the systems to prevent an all out collapse? There is nothing underpinning this market. It is built on hot air and debt. The immense level of margin debt will create a waterfall collapse once certain stock levels are breached.
Is the country under some sort of cyber-attack? Are the Chinese and/or Russians taking advantage of the worldwide turmoil to create a chaotic financial collapse? Are hackers from Anonymous or some other group flexing their muscles?
All is not right. I have an eerie feeling that something bad is about to happen. But, I’ve been wrong before.
So resume your denial and delusion until further notice.
Time for a fitting tune.
Real Time Cyber Attack Map – http://map.norsecorp.com/ – Target St Louis
MIA
Really cool site. Why would anyone want to attack the shithole of St. Louis
I’m guessing St. Louis for either the St. Louis Fed or maybe some NSA / other govt data center that we proles don’t know of.
OOPS, forgot to say – YOU CRAZY KOOK CONSPIRACY-THEORY NUTTER! YOU TINFOIL-HAT WEARING BASEMENT DWELLER!
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The Shanghai Stock Exchange is down 1,451.07 points or down 28% Put another way – has lost $3.2 trillion of value! This Summer will be remembered as the one of our “discontent”!
Chinese companies have been using their stocks as collateral to purchase margin positions. Dumb. Really dumb. Now they are trapped by these same margins being called! With no selling allowed until further notice. When selling resumes – there will be blood in the streets.
Something? BIG. This way comes.
Administrator: They were probably after the Grim Reaper of Radio. LOL. http://www.kqqz1190am.com/GrimReaper.html
He puts Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage to shame.
Why the NYSE trading halt should alarm investors
By David Weidner
Published: July 8, 2015 1:36 p.m. ET
It brings up the question: What would a cyber attack look like?
SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) — Look out, China. The Big Board on Wednesday suspended trading in all stocks.
OK. Bad jokes aside, the sudden and unexplained halt in trading Wednesday at the New York Stock Exchange should alarm investors. Even if the NYSE is not the victim of cyber terrorism and is simply experiencing a regular technical glitch, if the exchange was forced to hit the “off” switch, it signals a vulnerability of a market that is almost entirely electronic and highly technical.
What’s worse: United Continental Holdings UAL, -2.26% planes were grounded today after a computer glitch. And the Wall Street Journal’s Web site was down temporarily.
“Anybody who has a computer knows they crash periodically — nothing’s perfect,” said Michael Goldstein, a professor of finance at Babson College and former NYSE economist. “Adding all of these together, in the world we live in now — we’re talking about an airline and major stock exchange — having major computer problems should make people nervous.”
Goldstein said you have to ask yourself: “What would a cyber attack look like?”
Maybe like this.
For the NYSE, the glitch is especially troubling given the lumbering investigation into the 2010 “flash crash” in which stocks tumbled, according to regulators, due to the work of a single trader in Britain who was “spoofing.” The alleged perpetrator wasn’t named until five years and more than 1,000 trading days later.
To be sure, there is a big difference between a potential cyber attack, a computer glitch and a trader breaking the rules. On the flip side, it’s fair to ask if exchanges, whether it be the NYSE, a unit of the Intercontinental Exchange Inc. ICE, -1.50% the CME Group Inc., which owns the Chicago Mercantile Exchange CME, -0.36% and the Nasdaq are truly the safe and secure marketplaces they claim to be.
Poll after poll shows market trust is in the dumps. Last summer, Better Markets found that 64% of voters don’t trust the markets and 60% support more regulation. A poll by CNBC in March 2014 found 75% of respondents felt the market was “rigged.”
Wednesday’s events should give pause to investors who depend on trading systems and a highly complex network of various exchanges to trade. For those who invest for the long run, it may not make much of a difference. But for those who trade regularly — and that includes the brokers and fund managers operating on behalf of clients — the shutdown is troubling, indeed.
Arnie Mori, a retired portfolio manager, once told me: “In the long run, intelligently diversified portfolios reflect a reasonable approximation of underlying value. Traders, on the other hand, are at the mercy of irrational price swings and anomalies.”
Today he reached out to say: “Still true.”
No worries, the “underlying economy is strong,” (just pulling out the #1 uttered verbiage by the 2008 presidential candidates).
Wheels are really beginning to fall apart on this bus, I’m sure some mandatory insurance or vaccinations will fix it.
Is This What The First World Cyber War Looks Like: Global Real Time Cyber Attack Map
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 07/08/2015 11:41 -0400
After a series of cyber failures involving first UAL, then this website, then the NYSE which is still halted, then the WSJ, some have suggested that this could be a concerted cyber attack (perhaps by retaliatory China unhappy its stocks are plunging) focusing on the US. So we decided to look at a real-time cyber attack map courtesy of Norsecorp which provides real time visibility into global cyber attacks.
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What clearly stands out is that for some reason Chinese DDOS attacks/hackers seem to be focusing on St. Louis this morning.
Whether this is related to the series of suspicious cyber failures today, is so far unclear, although if there is a connection at least there is a way to keep track of the first global cyberwar in real-time.
Just in time for the official start of Jade Helm in a few days… Hmmm, tin foil hat on for protection!
Scott Air Force Base is just outside of St. Louis. It is the home of the US Transportation Command. I don’t really see that as a target related to the Chinese stock markets. Boeing is there. Dunno.
Don’t worry. Obummer in Chief has been briefed. He had to cut short his tryst with Reggie.
The White House and the U.S. Treasury Department are monitoring the “ongoing issue” at the New York Stock Exchange and President Barack Obama has been briefed on the matter, a White House official said on Wednesday.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Geospatial-Intelligence_Agency
The National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA) is both a combat support agency, under the United States Department of Defense, and an intelligence agency of the United States Intelligence Community,[5] with the primary mission of collecting, analyzing, and distributing geospatial intelligence (GEOINT) in support of national security. NGA was known as the National Imagery and Mapping Agency (NIMA) until 2003.
NGA headquarters is located at Fort Belvoir in Springfield, Virginia, and ,operates major facilities in the St. Louis, Missouri area, as well as support and liaison offices worldwide.
Admin, that is a weight off my mind while we wait for the next “glitch”…
Yep, the “white house is monitoring and the pres has been briefed”. That’ll fix it!
phew! Well, now there is nothing to be worried about.
This is a racially motivated attack. They are not attacking St. Louis but, rather, that Beauty Store in Ferguson. Bitch gotta burn.
Damnit wrong thread:
Never posted a song here, but this one seems apt in many ways at the moment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcHoVku4L7k
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The SHTF a long time ago. Remember, 4Ts aren’t continuous events, but long strings of events in different locations, different reasons, etc. It’s only when the historians sort it out afterward that the patterns are clear. Just look at the Revolutionary War, Civil War and Depression/ WWII… in all those cases, the battles occurred here and there, often months apart. The Depression had plenty of years of normal life, if you ever get a chance to talk to anyone who lived through it.
TARP. Benghazi. Snowden. Boston. ACA. Ferguson. Baltimore. Cyber-attacks. 2016 Election… It’s all part of the chain of events of this 4T. Connect the dots.
Thinker says: “TARP. Benghazi. Snowden. Boston. ACA. Ferguson. Baltimore. Cyber-attacks. 2016 Election…”
Sounds like “We Didn’t Start the Fire” for the 21st century.
@Administrator ,
That market chart overlay is amazing. History not only rhymes, but the tune remains the same.
Man all these developments are unsettling. The way the market are behaving is just so SQUIRREL!!……..Like I was saying, Man! It’s been really hot around here today. I wonder how the weather is gonna be like tomorrow…..
By Pater Tanenbaum
China’s authorities are now finding out that one cannot have everything at once. If a credit bubble is to be deflated, asset prices cannot grow to the sky at the same time. Rising stock and real estate prices require “fuel” in the form of money supply inflation, and a slowdown in credit extension automatically brings about a slowdown in money supply growth in the modern-day fractionally reserved fiat money system.
As a result, even if the market should begin to bounce from here, it will very likely remain a “sell” until money supply growth has accelerated again for a while. This is however unlikely to happen anytime soon, as China’s banks are increasingly reluctant to add to their burgeoning credit problems (these don’t exist officially, but everybody knows they are simply masked by accounting tricks).
Prime minister Li Keqiang wants to reform China’s economy and is also unlikely to order banks to massively increase their lending again. He may of course eventually well be outvoted by others in the politburo, but at the moment, he remains in charge of economic policy. Note in this context that stock prices fell again on Monday after Li Keqiang failed to mention the stock market crisis in an official statement on the economy.
Conclusion
No bubble can remain aloft without a heavy dose of monetary inflation. The fact that China’s authorities, including its central bank, have been unable to stem the decline stands as a stark warning to the many Western investors who seemingly believe that central banks are nigh omnipotent entities run by magicians. This is not the case. Once an asset bubble begins to burst, there there is nothing central bankers can do to stop it – and we have plenty of bubbles awaiting their turn in the barrel.
i blame the entire mess on george soros, the chinese do
Why St. Louis?
http://www.salon.com/2006/06/21/att_nsa/
Interesting, huh?
“Gold is looking like the dog that just did not bark — but not uniquely so. Most safe-haven assets are looking distinctly lackluster, including the VIX index. Either 5,000 years of safe-haven buying has just become bunk, or there is a desire to portray what is evidently a financial and economic crisis as nothing to be concerned about.”
Ross Norman, Sharps Pixley
China Soars Most Since 2009 After Government Threatens Short Sellers With Arrest, Global Stocks Surge
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 07/09/2015 06:57 -0400
Here is a brief sample of some of the measures the Chinese government and the PBOC have unleashed in just the past ten days to prop up the crashing market include:
a ban on major shareholders, corporate executives, directors from selling stock for 6 months
freezing more than half (1400 at last count per Bloomberg) of the listed companies from trading,
blocking fund redemptions, forcing companies to invest in the market,
halting IPOs,
reducing equity transaction fees,
providing daily bailouts to the margin lending authority,
reducing margin requirements,
boosting buybacks
endless propaganda by Beijing Bob.
But it wasn’t until last night’s first official threat to “malicious” (short) sellers that they face charges (i.e., arrest), as Xinhua reported yesterday:
[Ministry of Public Security in conjunction with the recent Commission investigation of malicious short stock and stock index clues ] correspondent was informed on the 9th morning , Vice Minister of Public Security Meng Qingfeng led to the Commission , in conjunction with the recent Commission investigation of malicious short stock and stock index clues show regulatory authorities to the operation of heavy combat illegal activities.
And SCMP confirmed:
China’s police will investigate clues pointing to potentially “malicious” short-selling of Chinese shares, state news agency Xinhua says on Thursday. The investigation will allow authorities to “punch back” against unspecified illegal activities, Reuters reports Xinhua saying on its official microblog, citing unidentified sources.
… that the wall of Chinese intervention finally worked. For now.
And since this is all about one thing, the stock, market, it is worth noting that the Shanghai Composite Index had dropped as much as 3.8% to a 4 month low before the news that the cops were going to arrest anyone who used a wrong discount rate in their DCF, when everything suddenly took off, and the SHCOMP closed a “Dramamine required” 5.8% higher, the biggest daily increase since March 2009!
“As China beefs up its efforts to rescue the market, with even the public security ministry involved, market sentiment is recovering slightly from a panicky stage earlier,” Shenyin Wanguo analyst Qian Qimin says by phone
This is how some other Chinese markets fared: CSI 300 +6.4% led by industrials, consumer staples; the Shenzhen Composite Index +3.8%; all ChiNext shrs trading today were limit up a day after virtually the entire market was locked limit down.
The best and briefest summary comes from China Southern Fund Management chief strategist Yang Delong, who said that the government efforts “hit the right spot.” Well, yes, when you threaten to arrest sellers, it does tend to have a short-term effect. The only escalation from there is arresting anyone who doesn’t buy which in turn would promptly lead to this.
Market is going to open UP 180 points this morning.
I bet it doesn’t “Break” today.
I wonder why?
Market opened up 250 and only finished up 32.
That is a really bad omen for the stock market. There are more violent down days dead ahead.