Question of the Day, Jan 15

We are 2 weeks from Iowa. Is Donald Trump serious, or a plant to fool the republican sheeple?


Author: Back in PA Mike

Crotchety middle aged man with a hot younger wife dead set on saving this Country.

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Rob in Nova Scotia
Rob in Nova Scotia
January 15, 2016 6:17 am

Plants don’t need fools.

starfcker
starfcker
January 15, 2016 6:34 am

The real deal

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2016 6:38 am

If he were a plant he wouldn’t be exposing the weaknesses of the opponent, he’d simply champion the ideas that the have thus far been left hanging in the wind- bring back the jobs, yada, yada, yada.

But that’s not what he’s doing. He’s eviscerating their sacred cows, one by one and leaving the flyblown carcasses twisting in the wind. What possible advantage would that serve if he was a Judas goat?

card802
card802
January 15, 2016 6:56 am

It’s fun to watch how he can draw everybody in to talk about issues that don’t matter.

D: Ted Cruz is not eligible.

T: Donald Trump is from NY and we all know what comes out of NY. (liberals)

D: I get more calls about Ted, I was in NY when they rebuilt the towers………

I’m still leaning plant.

Southern Sage
Southern Sage
January 15, 2016 7:34 am

I can’t believe people are still asking this. Trump is who he is. The Republican “sheeple” are the fools (like me) who were suckered into voting for the Bushes, the McCain’s, the Dole’s and the Romney’s. Never again. Much too late in the day. Trump is not perfect. Indeed, in some respects he is hardly presentable, but he is the only one who will roll back what Obama has done and try – at least try – to rebuild this country. His stance on immigration alone should make every true American vote for him. He understands that this is not the most important issue – it is the only issue. If mass immigration is not stopped America is doomed.

bb
bb
January 15, 2016 7:50 am

So true Southern Sage , third world immigration is the only issue. If it’s not stopped America as we know her will be destroyed from within.

flash
flash
January 15, 2016 8:26 am

If Trump is a plant. it’s not only Republicans that are sucked in.It’s Blacks (I hear 25%)American-Hispanics, Libertarians (yes dear God, they are jumping ship in droves) and emoting women , who over overwhelmingly (60%) voted Dem in pat elections.

This isn’t to say -as BL so fondly likes to put it – that Trump isn’t controlled opposition , but even so, he is still the GOP’s murder machine…and that’s enough for me, recovering Libertarian to support his candidacy.

Either way the GOP will be destroyed or totally reformed even if Trump is a plant. If Trump does as promised an puts America First in trade , jobs and national security closed borders) then the Chamber of Commerce Republicans will leave the party for the left side of the aisle , where they belong in the first place or if he pulls a head fake and continues with business as usual , the floods of illegal aliens and lop-sided trade pacts, the the base will buck and that’s the end of the GOP as well…like I said ,it’s a win /win situation for those of us who want to see one of the parties of Progressive Turpitude bite the dust , in order to make room for men who really wan to put America First..Can we succeed? Who the fucks knows, but one thing is for sure, WE THE PEOPLE certainly can’t recapture our Nation from the forces of evil if we don’t try. ..and that requires a spiritual reawakening as well.

Here’s some fantastic fiction on the subject of what happens when America becomes a sloppy , fat nation of lazy dullards, compliantly accepting one loss of freedom after another until we awaken in a full blown dictatorship , and only a few even know how we got there…yeas it is about the last battle between light and darkness and make no mistake that is what the loss of freedom is darkness.It’s the light or the darkness … there are no other choices.

THE SECOND FALL Paperback – January 15, 2012
by Charles Hurst (Author)

The Second Fall is an offbeat account of the predicted Revelation. Lucifer, under the guise of a high level political operative, uses the corrupt government and an apathetic people to initiate the final fall of mankind into his long awaited grasp. However, Christ gathers his newly chosen, a group of misfits who will become the unlikely outcasts, to wage war against this impending evil and whose efforts will determine the outcome of the world.

flash
flash
January 15, 2016 8:30 am

Southern Sage – The Republican “sheeple” are the fools (like me) who were suckered into voting for the Bushes, the McCain’s, the Dole’s and the Romney’s.

Expecting what? These are the Chamber of Commerce’s filth ..only more of the same , which is what these anti-American globalist bastards promised at every campaign stop…did you not take them for their word…. FWIW, I would have never admitted to being so gullible..I’ve heard a good cry helps.

SpecOpsAlpha
SpecOpsAlpha
January 15, 2016 8:35 am

“That doesn’t surprise Mika Ranta. “The biggest issue was when we learned from Facebook that new asylum seekers were peering through the gates of primary schools, looking at young girls,” he told Finnish daily Aamulehti.”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-14/racist-vikings-prowl-finlands-streets-european-gun-sales-soar-refugee-fears

Trump taps stuff like ^^^ and does so brilliantly.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
January 15, 2016 9:07 am

Flash- I REALLY can’t wait for November……

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 15, 2016 9:08 am

If he’s not serious he’s certainly spending an awful lot of money doing it.

And defying every opposition prediction about how he will fail, drop out, or simply fade away while he’s spending it.

Stucky
Stucky
January 15, 2016 9:09 am

First of all, Mike In PA, you ask a question about Trump, and then post a very unflattering picture of him. Clearly, you are attempting to “manipulate” the responses. Shame on you.

To answer whether Donald is “serious, or a plant” one would really need to know The Donald’s MOTIVATION.

That’s a problem, because since none of us are mind-readers, we have to guess. Asking Donald himself wouldn’t solve the problem because one has no way of knowing if he is telling the truth, or lying. Once again, we’d have to be mind readers.

However, we can make educated guesses by looking at the 4 Big Categories which motivate people to run for office;

—1) Money — let’s eliminate that motivation right off the bat. Sure, The Donald COULD attempt to steer laws beneficial to the industries he owns. But, that seems like an terribly long stretch. He’s a multi-billionaire.

—2) Fame (attention and approval) — getting closer. The Donald has an ENORMOUS ego. Nevertheless, he’s already pretty famous, around the world. Going through all the bullshit involved in running for, and becoming, POTUS also seems like a stretch.

—3) Service — The $64,000 question; “Is The Donald REALLY running to ‘make America great again’?” I have no idea. The Bible tells us not to judge. Yet, Jesus says, — “By their fruits you will recognize them. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?”. In other words, we are to be “fruit inspectors”. Now, apply that to The Donald. Does he have a history of doing things for others (that doesn’t involve ulterior motives such as ‘buying off’ politicians)? Does he have a history of donating his wealth to charitable organizations? If the answers to such questions are “No”, then what in the world makes you think he’ll do so now? Irrational hope? They say a leopard cannot change his spots.

—4) Power — There ya go! “Power” — at least on a national scale, and certainly on the world stage — is the one thing The Donald does NOT have. Despite his Billions, The Donald is just an afterthought when it comes to Real Power. And, that folks, is my guess as to why The Donald is running.

If my guess — and it is a guess — then you should be very very scared. Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. I have said it before, and I’ll continue saying it until election day …. “those of you who vote for Trump, will someday regret it”. Do you really want to vote for a guy motivated by Power??

Adolf Hitler restored German pride, reversing the humiliation of the Treaty Of Versailles. He brought back jobs. He restored German manufacturing. I am NOT comparing The Donald to Hitler!! I am merely pointing out the similar arguments made for both politicians. Hitler appealed to what Germans thought to be very very important in their time … just as Trump is appealing to what many Americans think to be very very important in their time, such as immigration.

So, go ahead and vote for him. Just bury your heads in the sand and pretend to not see his glaring faults — such as his absolute love for the police, and how he intends to bully the entire world into doing what he demands — and hope like fuckall that he doesn’t trample all over the Constitution — something he hardly ever mentions — or, what’s left of it. He’s gonna build a wall, fuck yeah!!!! Nothing else matters. Can’t wait to see how that works out …….

(Disclaimer: I pretty much hate every other shituk politician out there.)

the tumbleweed
the tumbleweed
January 15, 2016 9:43 am

How exactly is he a plant? I’ll tell you who is a plant. Paul Ryan. Nikki Haley. Lindsey Graham. The other 14 losers on the debate stage. And all the other Republicans who hold power and exist only to rubber stamp the Obama administration’s nefarious agenda to destroy America, while funneling money to their donors and their own personal checking accounts. THE ENTIRE REPUBLICAN PARTY is one giant troll on the remnants of normalcy in America, and we are still debating whether Donald Trump, literally the only candidate not reading directly from a CFR script, is a joke candidate? Wake the fuck up.

flash
flash
January 15, 2016 9:44 am

BL. never a dull moment..Someone took may you live in interesting time quite literally I do believe.

Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord.
Revelation, 1. 7

N8
N8
January 15, 2016 9:55 am

Dead on Stucky couldn’t agree more

Rise Up
Rise Up
January 15, 2016 10:12 am

Anonymous says: If he’s not serious he’s certainly spending an awful lot of money doing it.
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He doesn’t have to spend much money–all the network news time is free to him, and he gets tons more airtime than any other candidate. I did see he had a TV ad. But he hasn’t spent nearly as much as the other candidates (maybe quite a lot for renting out those venues for his speeches, however).

Is he a plant? Probably not or the RNC would not be in such a frenzy trying to stop him. The RNC are back-stabbers–made Trump sign that pledge and now are trying to tear him down.

Whatever the outcome, it’s a great show to watch.

Gayle
Gayle
January 15, 2016 10:19 am

So, Stucky, who ya gonna vote for?

Administrator
Administrator
  Gayle
January 15, 2016 10:28 am

Tommy
Tommy
January 15, 2016 10:32 am

He’s using the mooslims as Hitler used the Jews – rallying fear, hate, and the collective angst against the system. He says nothing – as in zero, about how he’ll fix anything other than to say he’ll just fix it…..he just will….because he’s a deal maker, a great deal maker. He scares me. Like a puddle, I’ve no idea how deep it is and I don’t want to go the whole day with a wet, soaking foot.

Before some asshole pops off here, fuck mooslims – round ’em up and ship ’em out, but no violence.

Hillary scares me more. She’s a loathsome cunt for sure – but voting for the lesser of two evils is a piss poor rationale.

And yet….she’s such an awful human. But what if its all by design? Hitler offered up his brown shirts to prove he wasn’t a radical – who are Trump’s ‘brown shirts’? Conservatives, libertarians, et al? A dictator has no need for them and if you think this is, my view of one possibility – maybe and hopefully you are correct.

But revolutions eat their parents – every fucking time, look it up.

Tommy
Tommy
January 15, 2016 10:46 am

I should proofread, add ‘is bullshit’ after possibility.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
January 15, 2016 10:49 am

Stucky, I believe I know Trump’s motivation. The White House Press Dinner a few years back. After Trump had publicly questioned Obama’s birth certificates and/or birth story, and after Obama had produced his forged long form birth certificate (at almost the same instant they announced the Bin Laden killing), Obama stood up at that dinner and mocked Trump (who was in the audience) to his face. Trump sat there grimacing stoically and silently. I believe that it was at that very instant when Trump realized that the only conceivable way he could get back at Obama and get to the bottom of that forgery was to become president. I think he sincerely believes in his main propositions:
1) sealing the US-Mexico border with a wall
2) stop replacing Middle East dictators with Islamists
3) stop poking Russia in the eye for no reason
but I think it was at that dinner that he resolved to run.

Is he serious? He’s serious as a motherfucking heart attack. And if he can get 1,236 committed delegates to prevent the GOP establishment from robbing him, he’s going to stomp Hillary’s face right into the fucking dirt like Reagan did to Carter in ’80.

Stucky
Stucky
January 15, 2016 10:54 am

“So, Stucky, who ya gonna vote for?” ———- Gayle

You’ve been here long enough, read enough of my thoughts, to know the answer.

But, if you still need a hint, please see Admin’s post @10:28 AM.

Stucky
Stucky
January 15, 2016 10:54 am

Iska

OK …. REVENGE! That’s a good explanation.

flash
flash
January 15, 2016 10:55 am

Stuck. I agree with all point, but this one. “The Bible tells us not to judge. Yet, Jesus says, — “By their fruits you will recognize them.” You offer up a contradictions in terms to justify a fallacy much employed by left wing deviants to promote all sorts of nontraditional , immoral practices , from homosexuality to abortion, to family destroying adultery and divorce.

Jesus did not command us to not judge others” by ” their fruits” he said “Do not judge, lest you should be judged” meaning you will be judged by the same criteria you judge others by. In other words , don’t be a hypocrite lest you be condemned as a hypocrite.

Matt Walsh said it way better than I ever could in this excerpt form his blog post “Jesus Wants You To Judge”

They’re almost right, except they left a word out. It’s not that we shouldn’t judge — it’s that we shouldn’t judge WRONGLY. The idea that we shouldn’t judge at all is 1) Absurd, 2) Impossible, 3) Very much at odds with every moral edict in all of Scripture. It’s also hypocritical because telling someone not to judge is, in and of itself, a judgement. Besides, these “Don’t judge” folks are nowhere to be found when the conversation turns to the Westboro Baptists, or domestic abusers, or the Nazis, or Paula Deen (all being responsible for horrors of equal proportion). I guarantee I could write a post condemning gay marriage opponents as bigots and homophobes and not a one of these pragmatists would show up to tell me not to “judge.” They’re hypocrites, and yes that is a judgement. It’s a good judgement because it’s accurate and true. It’s the sort of judgement we are called to make.

Look up the word “judge” in the dictionary. Actually, I’ll do it for you. Judge, in verb form, can be defined thusly: “To form an opinion of; decide upon; settle; to infer, think, hold as an opinion.” So when you tell someone not to judge, you’re telling them to stop deciding things, to stop forming opinions, to stop thinking, and to stop inferring. Brilliant bit of philosophy, Socrates. “Stop thinking and deciding, damn it!” Do you really think Jesus meant THAT when he told us not to judge? Well, I guess you can’t think about it one way or another if you’re adhering to this whole “never judge” schtick.

Lysander
Lysander
January 15, 2016 10:56 am

We’ll know for sure if he becomes a third party candidate to ensure a Sanders or hitlery win.

As far as Donald becoming a dictator……what the fuck are you talking about? Where have you been the last several decades? We are under a dictatorship of banks and corporations now and have been as long as I’ve been alive. They install the congressmen and presidents. Americans have little to say in anything, and by saying “Americans” I mean White people who love this land, their White European based culture and Western Civilization. We are not citizens or consumers…we are spectators who sit and watch from the nose bleed seats what the real players are doing. We have no say in ANYTHING…..not war, not immigration, not fiscal policy, not criminal law, not a fucking thing. And you think we elect presidents that are for us and our needs? Are you kidding?

Will The Donald become Hitler? Is Ovomit Hitler? Will hitlery be Hitler? You’re asking the wrong question. The question is this: Is Trump a stooge just to placate the angry White people? Will he be installed into the White house to make it appear that your vote counts, even though it doesn’t and hasn’t for a long time?

Here’s the litmus test for a true champion of the people; If he can become POTUS and try to effect real change and then get his head blown off in broad daylight in front of hundreds of witnesses during a parade in broad daylight. If that happens, then you had a winner. Too bad we can only find that out after he’s dead and the guaranteed VP stooge takes office.

Lookee see who his VP candidate will be. That is the backup for TPTB if their boy Trump goes rogue and has to go, then that guy will have to be firmly in their camp.

Or maybe TPTB have traveled long past their fear of White Americans and will stick the cunt or the commie in the WH. I figure that if nothing comes of the FBI investigation into hitlery, then she’s the one. She’s the next POTUS.

If that happens, TPTB will have said a big fat FUCK YOU to the White Americans and continue to concentrate on the destruction of Western Civilization, as scheduled.

I’ll vote for Donald in the primary’s and would vote for him to be president. Why not? My best case scenario? Donald gets in and does nothing for four years, like a little ‘time out’ period before the next dickhead gets into office.

We’ll see.

wdg
wdg
January 15, 2016 11:01 am

This is a very good question that I have wrestled with for some time, having been burned too many times before. He is saying the right things with regard to mass immigration, the propaganda MSM, the tyranny of political correctness, climate change and the globalization/off-shoring of jobs. His policies on US foreign policy with regard to ISIS and the military are a disaster in my opinion although he has stated that he is prepared to work with Putin/Russia. Missing from his platform are major references to the US Constitution and the disastrous monetary policies of the banker-owned Federal Reserve which was established in violation of the Constitution. I saw Trump in one interview acknowledge that he has benefited from ZIRP but also admitted that interest rates should be higher. He is clearly a part of the establishment and there is little doubt that power is a major motivation, but one cannot rule out the possibility that he identifies with the European people and Western Civilization, and will build a wall and seal the US border with Mexico, introduce a tariff on products manufactured outside the US, and deal with the growing debt which is now unsustainable. Will he pull a George W. Bush or Richard Nixon and completely ignore his campaign promises once elected? This is very possible but I would still vote for him because of: 1) the damage he is doing to the GOP; 2) the damage he is doing to the propaganda MSM, and 3) for the good he is doing in raising politically incorrect issues. And if he is a plant, then all trust in the system is gone, the GOP is history and a majority of Americans will focus their energy on building a new party and country from the ground up which are all positive outcomes. Of course if he is authentic, which is a real possibility, then the border will finally be sealed and the haemorrhaging of good jobs will be reversed. To me, that is a win-win situation which means I would vote for Trump. BTW, if he is for real, then I would expect the GOP to run an independent candidate to split the Republican vote and thereby elect the Democratic candidate…and if that were to fail, there would be attempts to assassinate Trump.

flash
flash
January 15, 2016 11:10 am

@Lysander…great and insightful commentary.This is the reason I come to TBP …for the different and sometimes brilliant perspective.

“Lookee see who his VP candidate will be. That is the backup for TPTB if their boy Trump goes rogue and has to go, then that guy will have to be firmly in their camp.”

Reagan accepting the seemingly demon-possesed GHW Bush as VP springs to mind…and then Reagan gets shot almost put the back stabbing Bushwacker at the helm sinking ship nearly 8 years before his time.Also is it mere coincidence that family of the freak who shot Reagan were old friends of the Bush family .And in another long ago day in time, isn’t it also strange coincident that G -Man Bush was also in Dallas on the day JFK was murdered…..smoke and fire folks…smoke and fire ..

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
January 15, 2016 11:26 am

The Bush’s and Trump both connected to Nikola Tesla ??? Things that make you go Hmmmm.

https://www.pbs.org/tesla/II/II_mispapers.html

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
January 15, 2016 11:30 am
Monger
Monger
January 15, 2016 11:33 am

Trump has been like this since the 70s, willing to call a spade a spade, hell I watched it myself.
Secondly I don’t believe he would try to get us all killed, unlike the pos we have now.

One also should look at his father, not exactly a bastion of liberalism, in fact quite the opposite, maybe where he gets it from, thought this interesting, “racially discriminatory conduct by Trump agents has occurred with such frequency that it has created a substantial impediment to the full enjoyment of equal opportunity.” seems he didn’t much like blacks.

Another interesting tidbit about his father, “Although a millionaire, Trump was known for his frugality, saving unused nails, doing his own extermination work and mixing his own floor cleaners.”
not afraid to actually work for a living even tho he was a millionaire many times over.

That being said if he was elected and was “the real deal” doubt he would live to take office, I forsee a ISIS nuke going off at the base of Trump Tower while he was in it.

However most likely a insider, but a rouge insider.

A case of damned if we do or damned if we don’t I think, if he destroys the republican party with his antics it would be good enough for me.
Oh and he is white, if its good enough for blacks to vote for skin color over character, its good enough for me also.

Tommy
Tommy
January 15, 2016 11:54 am

What amazes me most is how folks believe, or don’t, in someone so fervently that has[n’t] proven themselves in the role to which they aspire. Trump is good! Trump is bad! Fuck that, anybody who wants to sign on for the unknown can have at it. Like the assfucks who think Rand Paul is nobody special because he won’t take from others and give them free shit. Sure he lacks panache, charisma, and a go-for-the-throat style – every monkey here, at least the sane ones, realize what he offers but rather than vote for a principles they start choosing a ‘next best’ or worse. Yeah, yeah, Hillary is cunt – granted….yeah, yeah, Bush is another of the same, okay whatever. But is that it? I think its fair to assume the powers that be – your owners, the ones who you knew owned the two party system but not this one, not this time……are smart enough to see our programmed two party mindset coming a mile away. To not at least consider that, contemplate that, ponder that a bit…..is fucking retarded. But this is ‘Murica after all.

Its okay to be a fair weather friend to a politician, an untested one at that. Let them prove they’re worthy of your support and loyalty. Hey, maybe Trump’s the real deal. I sure hope so, because he’s going to win. And we need a winner.

I tell my kid’s, especially my daughter, ‘Don’t tell me what you’re going to do, show me what you’ve done.’ So down arrow away, make sure you don’t comment like a little bitch too.

Dutchman
Dutchman
January 15, 2016 12:14 pm

The President is just one person. I think Trump would ‘clean up’ if he would announce who he will choose to fill important cabinet positions. We really need a team.

I think the US of A and Europe are too far gone to save. But if we have just a nano-gram of a chance, Trump is the one who will pull us out of the impossible.

Tommy
Tommy
January 15, 2016 12:32 pm

Dutchman, that’s a great point – it’d sure add clarity. His popularity would soar (could it go higher?) with the right picks/mix. If nothing else, he’d pull the fence post outta my ass.

Stucky
Stucky
January 15, 2016 12:37 pm

flash

I pretty much agree 100% with your thoughts about “judging”. I think I even submitted an original thread about it some time ago.

The only reason I threw in the “The Bible tells us not to judge.” sentence is to ward off the crazies who say “YOU SHOULDN’T JUDGE OTHERS!!!” … and they really are crazy and uninformed.

Again, I agree with you.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
January 15, 2016 12:56 pm

Monger says: However most likely a insider, but a rouge insider.

A pinko. No wonder Putin likes him.

Gator
Gator
January 15, 2016 1:02 pm

I agree with you stucky, couldn’t have said it better myself. And tommy, I thought your post above, that got all the down votes, was pretty spot on as well. Im done with the lesser of two evils nonsense, and I don’t want a strongman ruling over this country. See admin’s post above. Sure, it would be great if trump burned the GOP to the ground, and got rid of killery once and for all too. But that alone isn’t reason enough for me to vote for him. And no, I don’t like any of the other clowns running either.

NO ONE for president, 2016

Anon
Anon
January 15, 2016 1:37 pm

Something I have not seen anyone address to date is Trumps children, at this point adult children. As someone who was considered to have been born with a silver-spoon in his mouth I can attest to a few things. I was “born” into $$$$. Nothing on the scale of Trump, but I knew a lot of rich kids.

Most rich kids especially on the scale of a Trump grow up entitled little bitches (male and female bitches) and are worthless. One thing I see in Trump, at least as an outsider, his kids do not come off as entitled little bitches. That says a lot. The kind of money they were around RUINS most people and they appear to be hard working un-entitled kids.

They were made too work, as was I. My parents never gave me a allowance of any kind. I had to work for every dollar. As soon as I was able I was delivering newspapers on a bicycle, back in the day we still had newspapers!! I think I was 8. We had the biggest F-ing yard around and every Saturday I was out there with my dad doing yard work (unpaid). It was my duty to the family.

We had a 2nd home, so yes we had $$$, but we built it ourselves from the ground up. I dug more plumbing trenches BY HAND than I care to remember and cleared more brush during fire season than most “chain-gangs”!!

I get the feeling that Trumps kids were made to work. Nothing gets rid of entitlement quicker than having to WORK. And Trump works. He knows how to work. When is the last time we had a president who knew how to work? Reagan??

EVERY man has his shortcomings and Trump is no different. I hesitate to vote for him, but something has got to change.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
January 15, 2016 2:10 pm

Stucky says: Iska OK …. REVENGE! That’s a good explanation.

Somebody said,that Bush 2 was probably the last Repuke to win the WH, having put together a crazy quilt that included Evangelicals. I agree, the talk at that time was of Bush’s conversion. OMG, you would have theought he was the second coming of Reagan. He even dropped the Texas braggadocio and began to sound more like Ronnie with a reassuring purr in his voice.

So, now we have a situation where the Repugnants can’t leave anything to chance, they already had to steal the election last time. Unlike Gore, Hillary would go ape shit if they took her prize. The Repukes must pull a Nixon/McGovern ass stomping on the first round. The best way to do this is to go lower, pull out the stops and go Demagogic.

The Demoncrats fucked Bush 1 with ‘the economy, stupid’ and now the Repukes will fuck the Demopukes with – ‘it’s the illegals, stupid’.

Araven
Araven
January 15, 2016 2:15 pm

The only candidate that I’m pretty sure is not a plant is Rand Paul. Look at how “both sides” treat him.

Trump? I’m about 50/50 on him whether or not he’s a plant. Either way I’m about 33/33/33 whether he would be: much better than what we have; much worse than what we have; or totally useless. If it comes down to the Donald against Hitlery or Bernie I might vote for him because there is some chance that he won’t be any worse than what we have now and both of them are guaranteed to be worse than what we have now
.

Administrator
Administrator
  Araven
January 15, 2016 2:31 pm

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
January 15, 2016 2:20 pm

There were a lot of folks disappointed by the lottery. They fully expected to be raptured into dollar heaven by their lottery god. They proudly announced to everybody, I won’t be here tomorrow! These modern day Millerites had the day of monetary salvation wrong.

The same thing is happening with a lot of delusional folks who believe they will be raptured by The Donald into Caucasian heaven. They silently whisper to blacks and browns, you won’t be here tomorrow! Of course, this is simply modern day Ghost Dancing. Either way, this will be a November to remember.

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 15, 2016 2:42 pm

” “The Bible tells us not to judge. Yet, Jesus says, — “By their fruits you will recognize them.” ”

Not exactly.

The Bible does not tell us not to judge, in fact the opposite is a constant theme in it.

What it does tell us is that we’ll be judged by the same standards we use to judge, a severe warning against hypocrisy.

Something most people using that “judge not lest ye be judged” part of the teaching seem not to understand even though it goes on to say “for the standards by which you judge will be the standards by which are judged”.

They invoke Biblical standards yet somehow falsely believe are making themselves exempt from them in the process while they are doing the opposite and bring those standards upon themselves.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
January 15, 2016 2:46 pm

I think Trump is serious but you’ve got to have a screw loose to even want the job. I question his quest for that reason alone. He’s certainly not spending all that money for nothing.

His biggest problem is that he’s not a member of “The Club”. I still believe that he’ll have his “come to Jesus” meeting with the owners of The Club and have to make a choice. 1. Bow out. 2. Toe their line. (he’ll be thrown a few bones in return) 3. Run the gauntlet of cut brake lines, plane crashes and stray bullets.

If he makes it through his first term without getting whacked you’ll probably get a chance to vote for President Zuckerburg, President Bezos, President Schmidt in the near future and since corporations are people too, President Monsanto & President Lockheed won’t be far behind.

Admin and Stucky make the most sense on this thread!

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
January 15, 2016 3:13 pm

Judge not, lest ye be judged dept: Admin and Stucky make the most sense on this thread!

Not that I give a shit what I-S thinks.

And from what I read, it isn’t all his money he’s spending. Plus he gets free airplay with all his entertainment bluster. At this point, if he selected El Chapo for VP, they’d ride the celebrity train straight into the WH.

Stucky
Stucky
January 15, 2016 3:15 pm

“toe the line” derives from track-and-field events in which athletes are required to place a foot on a starting line and wait for the signal to go. Race officials used to shout “Toe the line!”. Now they shout “On your marks!” From this the idiom has developed to mean that one should act according to someone else’s rules or expectations.

Fucken fascinating, ain’t it?

Administrator
Administrator
  Stucky
January 15, 2016 3:18 pm

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
January 15, 2016 3:17 pm
IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
January 15, 2016 3:23 pm

Stucky, I thought “toe the line” had something to do with fighting. Track & Field makes sense though.

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 15, 2016 3:23 pm

EL Coyote @ 2:20 pm LOL… That’s some Gonzo journalism , right there.

flash
flash
January 15, 2016 3:41 pm

RES! …and always have since the days of Lincoln.

http://www.voxday.blogspot.com/2016/01/so-much-for-republican-loyalty.html

So much for Republican loyalty

The Republican Establishment always demands loyalty from its base, but never offers any of its own:

I have voted Republican in every presidential election since I first became eligible to vote in 1980. I worked in the Reagan and George H. W. Bush administrations and in the White House for George W. Bush as a speechwriter and adviser. I have also worked for Republican presidential campaigns, although not this time around. Despite this history, and in important ways because of it, I will not vote for Donald Trump if he wins the Republican nomination….

No major presidential candidate has ever been quite as disdainful of knowledge, as indifferent to facts, as untroubled by his benightedness. It is little surprise, then, that many of Mr. Trump’s most celebrated pronouncements and promises — to quickly and “humanely” expel 11 million illegal immigrants, to force Mexico to pay for the wall he will build on our southern border, to defeat the Islamic State “very quickly” while as a bonus taking its oil, to bar Muslims from immigrating to the United States — are nativistic pipe dreams and public relations stunts.

No wonder people have increasingly little use for Republicans. They stand for nothing but the status quo. They promise nothing but the status quo. They offer nothing but the status quo. They are, quite literally, hopeless.

For Republicans, there is an additional reason not to vote for Mr. Trump. His nomination would pose a profound threat to the Republican Party and conservatism, in ways that Hillary Clinton never could. For while Mrs. Clinton could inflict a defeat on the Republican Party, she could not redefine it. But Mr. Trump, if he were the Republican nominee, would.

Mr. Trump’s presence in the 2016 race has already had pernicious effects, but they’re nothing compared with what would happen if he were the Republican standard-bearer. The nominee, after all, is the leader of the party; he gives it shape and definition. If Mr. Trump heads the Republican Party, it will no longer be a conservative party; it will be an angry, bigoted, populist one. Mr. Trump would represent a dramatic break with and a fundamental assault on the party’s best traditions.

An angry, bigoted, populist party sounds a lot more appropriate and viable in the last days of a failing multicultural empire than a go-along-to-get-along Wile E. Coyote party. And a dramatic break with the Republican party’s best traditions, which are stabbing its base in the back and caving into Democrats, is long overdue.

The most certain way to know that Trump is doing well is to observe the way in which the liberal mainstream media is affording these cuckservatives a national platform to take these futile shots at him.

Stucky
Stucky
January 15, 2016 3:55 pm

Nice article flash. Those kind of articles actually make me want to vote FOR Trump. Just to piss of cocksuckers like the author. Keep it up. I might vote after all.

flash
flash
January 15, 2016 3:59 pm

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Westcoaster
Westcoaster
January 15, 2016 4:13 pm

Stucky I pretty much agree with your post on Trump with the exception that Trump is NOT really a “multi-billionaire” since he values his “character” at $3.3 BILLION. I doubt that would pass Admin’s muster as a bean counter.

http://gawker.com/donald-trumps-grossly-exaggerated-net-worth-a-timeline-1711718182