Let’s here the excuses from the copfuck lovers on this site. Another hero doing his job. Right?
An unarmed behavioral therapist says he was shot by police in North Miami while lying on the ground with his arms up and trying to help his autistic patient, who had run away from a group home.
Charles Kinsey, 47, was shot once in the leg and is recovering in the hospital, he told WSVN-TV.
He was next to his 23-year-old patient, who was playing with a toy truck while sitting cross-legged in the middle of the road, a video of the moments before the shooting shows. You can watch the video above.
The head of the police union told the Miami Herald the officer thought Kinsey was in danger and was aiming at the autistic patient, and missed.
Police had responded to the area near Northeast 14th Avenue and Northeast 127th Street for a report of an armed man threatening suicide about 5 p.m. on July 18, WPLG-TV reports
But Kinsey says the “armed man” was his confused patient, who was holding a toy truck, not a gun.
“All he has is a toy truck. A toy truck. I am a behavioral therapist at a group home,” Kinsey can be heard saying to the officers before he was shot.
He told WSVN he asked the officer why he shot him, and the officer replied, “I don’t know.”
Kinsey said he was more concerned about his patient.
“I was thinking as long as I have my hands up, they’re not going to shoot me,” Kinsey told the news station. “This is what I’m thinking, ‘they’re not going to shoot me.’ Wow, was I wrong.”
The officer involved in the shooting, a 30-year-old Hispanic male, has not yet been named. The shooting itself was not caught on the cell phone camera.
Charles Kinsey told the officers he and the autistic patient were not armed, and asked them not to shoot them. The officers were armed with rifles.
“When I went to the ground, I’m going to the ground just like this here with my hands up,” Kinsey said told WSVN-TV, raising his arms while in his hospital bed. “And I am laying down here just like this, and I’m telling them again, ‘Sir, there is no need for firearms. I’m unarmed, he’s an autistic guy. He got a toy truck in his hand.’”
Police later said they had eyewitnesses telling them there was a gun at the scene, and a 911 caller also saying that. But no gun was found.
Kinsey told the news station the officer fired three times, hitting him once, in the leg.
“I’m like this right here, and when he shot me, it was so surprising,” said Kinsey. “I thought it was a mosquito bite, and when it hit me I had my hands in the air, and I’m thinking I just got shot! And I’m saying, ‘Sir, why did you shoot me?’ and his words to me were, ‘I don’t know.”
At a Thursday press conference the Miami-Dade Police Benevolent Association said the officer was a member of the SWAT team. PBA President John Rivera told reporters the officers were trying to help Kinsey:
There was a call about a suicidal man with a gun, the officers already heard that. When they arrived they saw two men, Mr. Kinsey and the other individual, the white male, and it appeared to the officers that the white male was trying to do harm to Mr. Kinsey. The officers, realizing and believing that there was a firearm, and many officers thought the white male had a firearm, only much later when we were able to Monday morning quarterback do we find out it was a toy. Only much later do we find out that the individual was autistic. The officers on the scene did not know that. And fearing for Mr. Kinsey’s life, the officer discharged his firearm, trying to save Mr. Kinsey’s life. And he missed, and accidentally struck Mr. Kinsey. He thought the white male and his actions were such that he felt Mr. Kinsey’s life was in danger.
Rivera also said the video from the scene “is being portrayed poorly.”
He said “many in the media are saying you can clearly hear Mr. Kinsey. Well if you can clearly hear Mr. Kinsey, why does every news outlet have to put subtitles. You can’t clearly hear Mr. Kinsey.”
Rivera said the officer couldn’t hear what Kinsey was saying.
He also said the person who filmed the incident did so at a different vantage point and from much closer than where the officers were.
“They flipped me over, and I’m faced down in the ground, with cuffs on, waiting on the rescue squad to come,” Kinsey told the news station. “I’d say about 20, about 20 minutes it took the rescue squad to get there. And I was like, bleeding — I mean bleeding and I was like, ‘Wow.’”
He said his life flashed before his eyes when he was shot, and he thought about his family. His wife was at his bedside Wednesday.
“Right now, I am just grateful that he is alive, and he is able to tell his story,” she told WSVN.
According to the Miami Herald, Kinsey is likely to be released from the hospital Thursday and is expected to fully recover.
The Dade County Police Benevolent Association said at a press conference that they wish the best for Kinsey and the officer involved in the shooting is praying for his “speedy recovery.”
The police union head also read a statement from the officer, in which he said, “I took this job to save lives and help people. I did what I had to do in a split-second to accomplish that. And hate to hear others paint me as something I am not.”
This is fucked up in so many ways.
By this time you think the cops would have figured out that if you shoot someone, that is not extremely violent/armed – that you are going to lose your job, you are going to have to go to court, maybe to jail, and you are going to go through hell. Have these morons ever heard of binoculars? Maybe you then could see it was a toy truck. These bastards seem impatient. What’s the rush? Like the situation must be over immediately. Very poor thinking – maybe no thinking taking place at all.
Here the cop wounds an innocent person (I hope he sue’s the shit out of the cop), and then they handcuff him. Why? Just because he was there?
These guy’s are security guard quality, not law enforcement quality.
We had to nuke the suicidal* man in order to save him. And we killed some bystanders in the process. They were probably white male Christian terrorists anyway.*
*Not really, of course. (both times)
“The head of the police union told the Miami Herald the officer thought Kinsey was in danger and was aiming at the autistic patient, and missed.”
That’s what I said when this first happened, copfuck was aiming at the kid and missed.
Just being “extremely careless” with shooting someone, maybe he can run for president of the copfuck union later.
I’m longtime buddies with the head of the cop union. I like to get his take on these things, he is usually in the know, and he turns out to be right literally every single time. This has been leading on the local news for a couple of days, yet my calls have been unreturned so far. The silence is deafening.
I’m sure the heroes were in the right. They meant to shoot the autistic guy playing with a toy truck. If you look closely, the guy laying on the ground with his hands in the air is clearly reaching for his weapon. What a fucking joke. If starfcker can’t side with the guy getting shot without clearing it with his cop buddies, his opinion is worthless. Go back to Trump cheerleading.
Jim, not siding with the cops at all. They shoot people down here all the time. Almost always, there has been more to the story. And i am usually able to get it right away. Silence leads me to believe the facts on this one might be worse than what they seem. Thank god the guy will be ok, and very well compensated. From all that i’ve seen on local news, it doesn’t seem like the cops on scene were any brighter than the mental patient. North miami is practically all haitian. Haitian mayor, etc. They haven’t released the cops name yet, i wouldn’t be surprised if he is haitian. Update: cop’s name is Aleppo. Doesn’t sound haitian. https://youtu.be/3i882k91sHo
The victim will be well compensated by you starfcker with your tax dollars. Cops commit crimes, get slapped on the wrist, city pays victims millions, and your taxes go up. What a great country. Let’s honor our 2nd responder heroes with accolades and attaboys.
If this is what it seems, cop should get fired and do some time. He fucked up in a big way. I’m sure north miami has liability insurance, just like any employer, the guy should get paid. I would be very suprised if the cop keeps his job. And doesn’t get charged criminally. Looks inexcusable. And my usual backchannels of information are still silent. That’s pretty damning. Those union guys usually stick up for their men very aggressively. North miami has already suspended some higher ups yesterday, i’ll try to find some local links and post them
http://wsvn.com/news/local/demonstrators-crowd-north-miami-police-department-after-shooting-of-unarmed-man/
http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/North-Miami-Police-Commander-Suspended-After-Shooting-387961252.html
The officer was Hispanic.
Maybe hired to meet a racial/minority quota instead of because he was actually qualified to be a cop.
” I did what I had to do in a split-second to accomplish that. And hate to hear others paint me as something I am not.”
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That is total bullshit. There was no need to rush to shoot anybody from what I see in this video.
Why are these rouge cops so damn trigger-happy? This madness must stop.
I just posted this on the other thread but it would have been more appropriate here.
As I watched the proliferation of surveillance video cameras and cel phone cameras I remember thinking that the upside would be that a lot of fringe beliefs or paranormal events could be proven. If something is real there should be terabytes of proof by now. I realize that new data comes in all the time but so far……
Bigfoot- Nope
Ghosts- Nope
Nessie- Nope
Orangpendek- Nope
Thunderbirds- Nope
Spontaneous Human Combustion (SHC)- Nope
Street Lamp Interference (SLI )- Some data exists
Large deep sea predators- Confirmed
UFOs- Confirmed (the Dome of the Rock from 4 different perspectives is my favorite)
Aliens from another planet in said UFOs- Who knows?
My neighbors dog shitting on my lawn- Confirmed
Police Corruption-Confirmed
Police abuses of power- Confirmed
Excessive force used by police -Confirmed
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Was he even shot? I mean, no video of an actual shooting and a cocksucking, scumfuck corporate media marching lockstep with their orders to push the race narrative and get the citizenry to turn against the police in this country, and the part where shots are fired isn’t in the fucking video??? Really? Someone post a video where you can see or hear actual shots being fired please!
This news video shows him in the hospital after.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zIYzSN3jGM
Well hell, there he is in a hospital bed, he musta have really been shot then!? Haha, all I’m saying is we don’t have video evidence of the shooting, and this incident fits the current narrative perfect. Black dude, innocent, hands up(don’t shoot!), shot by police. Couldn’t get shit started much at the Republican convention, so there ya go. And this guy was a wonderful, sweetie-pie black guy, just trying to take care of an autistic child, and these jackoff, trigger-happy p.o.s cops blast him anyway! Hey, maybe it is legit, but it just seems a little too perfect considering what has happened the last few weeks. And, the media wouldn’t lie to us, right?
See quotes below, directly from the article. The police themselves have admitted to this shooting. I suggest you develop some reading and comprehension skills before commenting.
“The Dade County Police Benevolent Association said at a press conference that they wish the best for Kinsey and the officer involved in the shooting is praying for his “speedy recovery.”
The police union head also read a statement from the officer, in which he said, “I took this job to save lives and help people. I did what I had to do in a split-second to accomplish that. And hate to hear others paint me as something I am not.”
Oh! Wow! There is some text in the article with quotation marks around it that is supposedly a statement from the officer who supposedly did the shooting! Gee golly, thanks for pointing that out Phil! Now we know it was an authentic event! Praise Philbert everyone! Maybe I can be a super smart reader and comprehender like him one day.
you obviously didn’t watch the linked press conference. I’m not sure what more evidence you are looking for, that this shooting actually occurred as reported. For some reason you’re just being a dick about this.
So what? Sandy Hook involved press conference’s galore, I suppose you think that it was bonafide as well? Here, as a test of TBP readers awareness levels, lets see how many think Sandy Hook was an authentic event. If you think Sandy Hook was BS, and no kids died, click thumbs up. If you believe a scrawny twerp murdered 20 little kids, click thumbs down.
I always believe what the media is selling. They are as honest as the government.
Anon is right. After an Affirmative Action Court ruling, people with IQs over 120 had to be rejected to assure enough minority Cops were hired.
This is what happens when you train police officers that every encounter with the public is a threat to their life or safety. If cops believe that, then they are going to act consistent with those beliefs and unintended shooting will happen. Victim, “Why’d you shoot me?” Cop, “I don’t know!”
I wonder how much discussion between the officers occurred on how to handle this situation. None I bet. They were a bunch of cowboys with guns drawn waiting for a shootout.
Sad for all involved. Some lawyer’s going to get rich off this and regrettably some more cops, somewhere, are possibly going to die by retaliatory hotheads. I hope not.
This story chilled me to the marrow of my bones, since I have a child, no, he is now a young adult, with mild Autism/Asbergers. He is going out into the world, going to a local community college and trips with friends.
My son does not drive (although he is capable of it) precisely because if he got stopped, he is almost 100% likely to be shot and killed as he might not comply FAST ENOUGH with the cops. We have rehearsed extensively with him what to do if stopped by the police. Just like I guess black parents give to their kids, weird.
The story now is that the cop was actually aiming at the kid with the Autism and hit his freaking therapist!!!!! Who was lying on the ground with his hands up, trying to defuse the situation!!!!!
Good Gods Almighty.
Hope
My Grandson is autistic as well. Very disturbing to think that when he grows up, he is ten, he might need to be protected from those who should be protecting him. There needs to be an investigation for sure but if story holds this Cop should go to jail for ten to twenty. It will be only way to stop this. A badge doesn’t make you above the law.
It used to be ‘driving while black’. Now, it’s ‘living while black’.
Policing in America is under intense scrutiny as it should well be in a semi-free country.
There are two problems that can’t be part of the same conversation.
One is the epidemic of violence and crime in Black Community.
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Like the caption says Truth isn’t racist.
The other is the militarization of the police.
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Proud LEO’s in front of their new toy in my hometown of 10,000 people.
Each side and their supporters are intractable in their position. Denying reality and lashing out. The blacks claiming systemic oppression while their neighbourhoods are in flames. The LEO’s claiming the right to protect themselves rather then the citizens they were sworn to protect. Yet sit them in same room and nobody talks.
Black communities will be fixed by black people who are willing to quit with the excuses and stand up to the Thugs and Baby Mommas.
The police will start serving us again when they throw off the SS StormTrooper mentality and see citizens not as the enemy.
Will things will get better. Not likely. Last night Donald was talking about Law and Order. Hitting all the high notes for Law Enforcement and their supporters. Next week it will be Hillary quoting from the SJW bible and talking about systemic oppression. The race baiters will eat that shit up.
It will end up fucked either way come November.
Geeze!
When I shoot my long-range rifle, I usually use a 4x scope. Presumably the police have an even better scope than I do.
I think I could distinguish a toy truck from a grenade or a bomb through my scope. The actions of the police here are just baffling to me. I would like to give them the benefit of the doubt in a confusing, nervy situation. But this is a head-scratcher.
More importantly, I would love to see the equivalent of an “Amber Alert” for autistic people. This would alert the cops to an emergency with an autistic person so proper precautions could be taken.
The actions of the police here are just baffling to me.
Not to me; maybe cuz I had vision correction a while back.
“Why’d you shoot me?” Cop, “I don’t know!”
C’mon now; you gotta laugh at the idiots that pass the police mental tests.
I’m trying to be diplomatic and search for a reason why the screwed up.
captain….this is not the blog where you have to be concerned about being diplomatic or PC.
Pretty sure the guy was shot by some random patrolman using a handgun. Although the patrolman was supposedly on the SWAT team. That gives me negative confidence in the SWAT team.
I don’t think it requires Superman’s eyesight to distinguish a gun or gun-looking object from a toy car being cuddled by a sitting down man.
Senseless. Absolutely. But don’t forget that these senseless shootings are not the norm. We do not see nor hear of the countless everyday encounters that do not result in harm, but are resolved fairly and peacefully. Copfucks are out there, but not all cops are copfucks. I’ve known both the good and the bad in peace officers, fortunately much more good than bad. Of course that doesn’t address the alarming militarization of law enforcement agencies, nor the arming of the various three letter agencies. So, getting on a high horse and spouting off serves no purpose…the Donald may make a difference, hope so. The police need our support, and the police need to gain our respect back. How and when…who knows?
Hagar
If I was a LEO I would refuse absolutely to participate in that Photo-op above. The fact that so many would is disturbing to me. Smiles abound. But what really fucking pisses off is one of those fuckheads has their face covered. He isn’t a cop he is a fucking terrorist.
Rob,
Good call. After spending 23 years in the Marines I can no longer drink the kool-aid of military excellence. Not that the individual servicemen are lacking, rather the leadership of our nation has strayed from honor and excellence. While many of my comrades have traded green for blue, the proud swagger of a combat vet doesn’t have a place in the thin blue line. Many positive traits learned in military service translates well to public service. Yet we do not need nor want a combative police force, we need and want a police force that seeks peace and harmony in our community. Can we go back to peace officers rather than law enforcement officers?
Hagar
I agree with last part 100 percent! Cops should not enforce laws, they should maintain the peace. The motto for RCMP in Canada is “Maintiens le droit”. Seems to have somewhere along the way changed to “Maintiens la loi”. Maybe I didn’t get memo. The war on the public has to stop. Will it? I can’t see it happening. It is too profitable and mentality too entrenched. Like HSF somewhere else, this has been bought, paid for and agreed to by vast majority of the public.
I would think that this must be offensive to a Marine to see a bunch of whannabees dressed up like soldiers. If those guys want to shoot people they should volunteer and go to a place where the locals are guaranteed to shoot back.
“the proud swagger of a combat vet doesn’t have a place in the thin blue line. ”
That’s true enough, but I know a lot of combat vets, both in my family and outside it. I’ve never seen any swagger whatsoever among them. Swagger usually accompanies the tall tales told by REMFs who skated around in the rear, with the gear, where there ain’t no fear, or by wannabes who became cops instead of joining the military.
I see the problem as one of militarizing police forces. There can be a military for defending the whole country from invasion and attack, and there can be local police forces to protect citizens from criminals. This country doesn’t have either one, instead there’s a military used by politicians as a global police force and a domestic police force used as an occupying army against the citizens.
It’s kinda fucked up, ain’t it?
Yup
Fucked up, it is. Police for everywhere else. Occuping force at home. Good way of stating it Ed!
Ed,
Good point, well said. A old saying, “It’s always the 10% who fuck it up for the rest of us.” That 10% does include REMFs, combat vets, and the wannabes. The wannabes are probably the worst offenders.
I think that at some point, the cops are going to eventually shoot the family member of a very pissed off ex-military member. Then a lot of cops are going to get blown up or sniped. After that, either we move to martial law or this stops.
Well the caregiver IS guilty of being black right?
And cops can’t understand why cowardly fucks (there’s some irony) are shooting them in cold blood?
I is entertained!
…any award to citizens as a result of police misconduct should be taken from the police pension funds or from their paychecks.
…abolish all police unions.
…abolish immunity for police officers.
…require police officers to purchase an insurance “bond”…no bond=no job.
…establish a database of police officers who should never be allowed to work as police officers.
…drug testing for steroids should be a part of the drug testing program for police officers.
That’s a lot better, anarchyst.
Persnickety: I don’t have confidence in any of these fuckers. I’m almost 70 and I can do better than that. With this kinda shit goinmg down daily, it’s time to either 1) disarm the cops or 2) disband the popos and we can deal with the criminals. I lean toward 2.
I guess we now need a license to carry a concealed toy truck.
Toy trucks do not kill people, people kill people.
Ban all assault toy trucks.
You may not open carry toy trucks.
Register all toy trucks now!
How many police will we let die because of toy trucks?
The right to keep and bear toy trucks is not without limits.
Toy trucks should only be carried by trained law enforcement personnel.
Policing along with courts and the udiciary should be provided by the free market and removed from the state. Competition and reputation insure a quality product which a government monopoly need not concern itself with.
Like any other service or product consumers can willingly purchase whatever security and policing they feel best serves their needs. It’s quite obvious that like everything else the state touches it taints and corrupts.
Bot, that has to be the dumbest thing anyone has ever posted on this website. Stop, take a deep breath, and think that one through. Ever hear of erik prince?
You forgot one…
You can have my toy truck when you pry it from my cold dead fingers.
Black Lives Splatter?
any one ask what the caliber of the toy truck was?
I made an allegory about a developer showing up at a pristine stand of woodland and then turning the heavy equipment loose on it. Eventually everything is cut down and paved over and the result is a parking lot. The rest of the piece was a discussion by a panel of experts about what went wrong with the woodlands preservation project.
Reality is real. What you want, or expect or have been used to in the past is not reality. Reality is what is. All of this- the discord, the anger, the militarization of the police and all their assorted murders of the citizenry, the looting of the public wealth, the coarsening of the culture, the poisoning of the environment, the degradation of the cultural norms, the divisions along lines of race and ethnicity, wealth and poverty, tradition and progressivism and the death of civility are not accidental one-offs, they are the goal. This was the plan, all along and we have paid for it and supported it every step of the way. There was no woodland preservation project, it was always going to be a parking lot and anyone standing around wondering what happened to America is either retarded, duplicitous or part of the construction crew who is due a paycheck for the site work.
Ya! HSF, you paid for it all, along with all the wars, along with all the massive welfare, and along with all the gigantic governments!!! YOU paid for it all with FIAT CURRENCY printed out of thin air.
How could you let that happen, America??? Are you Americans totally stoopid or something???
And…Now half of you are going to vote for the Democratic candidate for POTUS, “She, who shall not be named.”
Good thing there’s not a time machine America, because if there was I’d go back and kick your ass!!!
HF,
No excuse, I down voted. Meant to up.
Apologies.
HF,
Also, I am curious, what do you think of Joel Salatin?
Is he in it for the bucks, or is he genuine?
Regards.
A lot of these shooter cops are Hispanic. Maybe they shouldn’t have lethal weapons? The story omitted that the cop took 3 shots with his assault weapon. Do they test cops for sociopathic tendencies?
Joel Salatin is the real deal, accomplished writer, motivational speaker, fearless critic of progressive farming and the FEDGOV imprimatur. He’s raised his younger generation to take over for him and now he feels his best efforts are in helping the new agrarians understand not only how to do things in the way that best benefits the environment, livestock and bottom line, but to understand WHY it is so important.
I credit him with getting me into farming so if I am the only person who ever benefited from his tutelage, he’s done a solid for myself, my family and our land and I know I am not alone.
I hope he profits wildly for what he does, he’s sure worth more than a Blankfein or a Soros.
Because, simply put, cops are not subject to the same law and order as the rest of us – and that is a problem.
How to dial it back?
One simple measure would be to apply the law equally to everyone. Especially to law enforcement.
If the cop was shooting to protect him, then he already knew he was not the perpetrator.
So why cuff him when he’s bleeding out.
Hoping he dies and can’t tell his story?
To go back to the offending cop’s answer when asked by the victim why he shot him, the cop responded ,”I don’t know.” It’s just my opinion, but what he should have said and what he knew in his mind I’ll bet, but couldn’t or wouldn’t say was: “I don’t know because I choked under pressure.” If in fact that is the case, then it is decidedly obvious that this man is in the wrong business, and questions should be asked about why he was ever issued a gun and a badge in the first place. Hopefully, the people asking those questions will get a different response than that that was given by the cop who shot the poor guy.
3 shots at unarmed civilians, 1 hit in the wrong target with a riffle at 30 yards.
with cops like this, you don’t need muslims.