CIVIL UNREST? PROBABLY NOT HERE, OR HERE, OR HERE

Guest Post by SSS

“The hunt for truth is the most difficult of human endeavors.” – SSS

I live in the metro area of one of America’s poorest cities, Tucson, Arizona.  Population 530,000, and metro area close to 1 million.  Poorest?  Well, among America’s cities, Tucson is somewhere around the 5th or 6th poorest in the country, depending upon which stats you read.  City crime rates, most of which stem from drug trafficking and gang activity, are among the highest in the state of Arizona, but quite low compared to other cities of its size in our nation.  Yet the probability of civil unrest in Tucson, even on a small scale, is low.  Large scale civil unrest, as we have witnessed in Ferguson MO, Baltimore and elsewhere, is even more unlikely.  Why?

Here are some more facts.  The racial composition of Tucson is White 47%; Hispanic 42%; Black 5%;  Native American 3%; Other (mainly Asian), 3%.  The important figure is 42% Hispanic, most of whom are Mexican-Americans.  The large presence of Hispanics in Tucson, El Paso, and Albuquerque, among many other southwestern cities and towns with a large presence of Hispanics, is a buffer against any serious civil unrest.  And that buffer is built on the Hispanic community’s CULTURE because ………

—-It has a strong sense of family.

—-It has its own language, Spanish, spoken globally by 570 million people.

—-It has its own food, loved by many Americans coast to coast.

—-It has its preferred faith, Roman Catholicism, and perforce, moral imperatives.

—-It has its own holidays and personal celebrations such as Cinco de Mayo and Quincianera.

—-It has its own forms of dress, music, theater, art, literature and dance.

And to lighten the mood, with appreciation to cartoonist Gary Larsen, there’s this unique bit of Hispanic culture.  Heh.

A strong Hispanic presence in certain places of the country, irrespective of its economic status, will simply NOT allow its communities to be destroyed by large scale civil unrest.    Rioting and looting in Hispanic communities are largely viewed as attacks on “OUR businesses, OUR neighbors, OUR friends, OUR acquaintances, and worst of all in the eyes of Hispanics, MY family.”  Translation?  Hispanics will not obliterate their communities because of some perceived injustice.  Won’t happen.

I mentioned El Paso and Albuquerque above, so let’s dig deeper for validation.  El Paso’s population of 680,000 is larger than Tucson’s, and its demographics are White 14%; White Hispanic/Hispanic 80% (Mama Mia!!!!); Black 3%; other 3%.  It is America’s 8th poorest city (this is not a contest in which any city wants to compete, but Detroit wins the grand prize).  Yet El Paso, like Tucson, is a  peaceful city and will remain that way.  Civil unrest in El Paso is virtually non-existent.  Has been for decades, despite sitting directly across the border from Juarez, Mexico, one of the most violent cities on the planet.  Consider this political kerfluffle in July, 2016.  Let’s start with a photo.  Second from the left in the photo below is El Paso Chief of Police Greg Allen.

EL PASO, Texas –

In a letter to the mayor and the El Paso City Council, local elected officials and community leaders denounced El Paso Police Chief Greg Allen’s comments about the Black Lives Matter movement.  The sheriff, the county judge and other elected officials called for a news conference Friday to offer condolences to the families of five Dallas officers killed in an ambush.  Allen chose not to speak during the news conference, but afterward said, “Black Lives Matter, as far as I’m concerned is a radical hate group and for that purpose alone I think the leadership of this country needs to look a little bit harder at that particular group. The consequences of what we saw in Dallas is due to their efforts.”

If you think that Greg Allen is black, you are correct.  In a city that is 3% black and 84% Hispanic, he is El Paso’s first black chief of police.  A no-nonsense cop.  For his comments, he’s taken a ration of shit from every politician in west Texas and political activist group – the mayor, the county sheriff, city council, judges, congressmen, the ACLU, NAACP, you name it. They beat on him like a rented mule.  Guess what?  He isn’t backing down from his statements, and the citizens support him.  Chief Allen knows his city and its people.  He knows them very well, and he just sent a clear message to radical groups like Black Lives Matter about how he and the El Paso police department views them.  El Paso will continue to be safe.  Book it.

Last but not least is Albuquerque, which has a population of 557,000 and a metro area of 907,000 (2014 figures).  White 42%; Hispanic 47%; Black 3%; Native American 5%; and other, 3%.   Albuquerque is important for two reasons.

First, the city has had recent issues with its police department (APD).  In 2012, the US Department of Justice (DOJ) launched an investigation of the APD over allegations of use of excessive force.  In 2014, surprise!!!, DOJ concluded the APD had a “culture of acceptance of the use of excessive force.”  Beneath that conclusion and rarely mentioned by the media was the fact that 75% of deaths from police shootings were people who had a history of significant mental illness – whites, blacks, and Hispanics alike.  No racial profiling charges.

Second, Albuquerque is the last city in the Southwest where major civil unrest has occurred, and it was in June, 1971.  Police tried to arrest an unruly young Mexican-American man in a city park, a scuffle ensued, an angry crowd gathered quickly, and the police fired into the crowd, wounding 9.  Full scale, intense rioting broke out for 2 days from  Mexican-Americans before order was restored with help from New Mexico’s National Guard.  No deaths, but tons of property damage with injuries on both sides.

Let me repeat the date.  1971.  45 years ago.  Since then, there have been ZERO incidents of large scale Hispanic civil unrest in the entire Southwestern US.  None.  And this is an area of the nation that Hispanics are predominately Mexican-American, some of whom can trace their family heritage and presence here to the 1600s and 1700s.

There.  I’m done.  If you don’t get my point by now, I can’t help you.


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Musket
Musket
September 6, 2016 8:43 am

One of the local congressclowns….Grijavala (sp) is trying his very best to upset the balance using the dreamers as his patsies……

snakepliskin
snakepliskin
September 6, 2016 9:02 am

Where I live. No negros. Zero chance of unrest. Lowest per capita income in the state. I average 24k a year. And it goes pretty far round these parts. I am one of the rich folks.

Anonymous
Anonymous
September 6, 2016 9:06 am

“Civil unrest”, aka rioting and looting, does seem to be mostly practiced by the Black communities.

When was the last White, Hispanic, or Oriental community riot?

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
September 6, 2016 9:10 am

SSS, I think the important figure for Tucson is the 5% black figure.

Horace
Horace
September 6, 2016 9:15 am

So Los Angeles, Stockton, Fresno, and Chicago will be okay too?

Overthecliff
Overthecliff
  Horace
September 6, 2016 4:29 pm

Nope, to many niggers.

Wip
Wip
September 6, 2016 9:33 am

“The hunt for truth is the most difficult of human endeavors.” – SSS

Great quote.

bb
bb
September 6, 2016 9:43 am

Hispanics may not riot for now but they will vote for liberal leftists progressives politicians 70% of the time.They will bring their style of third world shit where ever they go.The vast majority are in favor of gun control. The majority are in favor of reclaiming the south west as part of Mexico. That’s makes a large part of Hispanics traitors whether they realize it or not.That said I would prefer to be around Hispanics any day then blacks. Most Hispanics are not hostile to white people but they are liberal democrats for the most part.

Arnold Ziffel
Arnold Ziffel
September 6, 2016 9:49 am

Live in San Antonio and it has similar demographics as Albuquerque. Black compose 6% but many of them are in the military or have military backgrounds. Fairly peaceful but the illegal aliens are a menace and commit a significant number of crimes.

bb
bb
September 6, 2016 9:53 am

The hunt for truth is the most difficult of human endeavors.
Horse hockey SSS .What have you been smoking ? Most people do not or will not accept the truth even if it’s six inches in front of their face. That’s about as foolish as saying people are basically good and want freedom. History proves otherwise.Most people hate TRUTH and will hate you for giving it to them. That’s one reason I don’t waste my time warning people about our coming financial ruin and doomsday. They don’t believe it.

Southern Sage
Southern Sage
September 6, 2016 9:59 am

I have lived in Latin America for most of my professional life. This article is largely correct. Most Latin Americans (not “Hispanics”) are law-abiding, hard-working people. The exceptions in our country are the underclass created by Democratic policies. This underclass will support the so-called “Progressive” agenda; most Latin Americans will not. People seem to forget that many if not most Latin Americans are as white as any Italian or Spaniard by any reasonable yardstick and when push comes to shove they will stand with Middle America. They have no desire to be lumped in with blacks, for starters. Mexicans in the U.S. are divided into two groups: loyal Americans and recent illegal immigrants, who display typical anti-American Mexican attitudes. These people are going back under a Trump Administration.

rhs jr
rhs jr
September 6, 2016 10:36 am

Liberals, esp our Urban Jungle Blacks, are like human atomic-nitroglycerin; the slightest reason sets off a huge chain reaction of ignorant fighting, looting, burning, killing. The 80 IQ FSA bigots are always smoldering like hot coals because Affirmative Actions since 1965 have only grown ten times the GDP instead of 20. So F’ing sorry BLM, Colin Kaepernick and Obozo , even some White liberals are fed up with the total failure and the destructiveness of the Democrats Reconstruction II and are going to vote for Trump.

unit472
unit472
September 6, 2016 10:50 am

I might agree that New Mexico and Texas are not likely to have civil unrest in their Latino communities but that might not be the case in California and other areas with a more recent influx from Mexico and Central America. Should “La Migra” begin enforcing US immigration law I would expect large scale civil unrest to break out in the Bay Area and Southern California as these populations have not been in America for generations and their rootless young have been raised in the same public schools as the negro population.

Stucky
Stucky
September 6, 2016 10:59 am

Hmmm…. Hispanics don’t engage in civil unrest? Someone tell SSS about Venezuela … or show him the maps posted here not so long ago where many (most?) of the world’s most violent cities are in our southern hemisphere.

SSS is smoking wacky tobaccy again. EVERYONE and ANYONE is willing and capable of violent unrest when there is no food in their belly. Or, are Hispanics also different in that regard?

gilberts
gilberts
  Stucky
September 7, 2016 11:48 am

Sure, they’re used to not having food in their bellies, just look at Venezuela. Or Argentina. Or Brazil. Lots of those people don’t eat food and it does wonders for their disposition.

Maybe they don’t riot because so many of them are busy working for a living? Even their criminals are busy stealing and raping.

Where I live, we got tons of illegal terdz. The funny part is, for all the poverty, they’re some of the fattest people I’ve ever seen. It’s peculiar, too, because I don’t know how they find those short, squat, immense pear-shaped women attractive enough to reproduce, but every one of them seems to have 3-5 kids and seems to be working on 3-5 more.

Iconoclast421
Iconoclast421
September 6, 2016 11:00 am

“If you think that Greg Allen is black, you are correct.”

I do not understand.

susanna
susanna
September 6, 2016 11:11 am

SSS,
Nice to read your contribution and thanks for the reassurances.
Facts? I hope so. It is been my experience, even in affluent areas,
Blacks are ready to fight (physically and brutally) at the drop of a
hat at an even perceived slight. There is a mall near my old neighborhood. It has attracted Black shoppers from the city center. And thus random crime and uneasy experiences.
Anyone with a career and a promising future has moved to further
out communities to avoid the crime, mean hearted and violent
crime, related to the nearby mall shoppers. The threat is real.
We have moved 3 hours away. Yes small towns have poverty and
a few bad actors. But they do not have violent Blacks just waiting
for the opportunity to punch one in the face. I feel really bad
about this situation, and don’t revel in this prejudice, but one
should not ignore actual threats. The central city is seething with
resentment, and riots are only a trigger-event away.

Jim
Jim
September 6, 2016 11:52 am

Interesting points, that somewhat undercut that the standard meme that poverty is the cause of all social dysfunction. I was raised in the central valley of California among Mexicans, whose religion I share. I have gone to school with them and picked fruit alongside them. Generosity seems to be encoded in their genes, and if your car breaks down, it likely a Mexican (or an Okie) who will stop with jumper cables and an offer of help. It will rarely be some guy in a BMW. There are criminals among them, of course, but being of Irish descent, I will not cast the first stone. BTW, I live in a heavily Black city now, and by and large they are pretty good people, too.

Big Dick
Big Dick
September 6, 2016 11:58 am

Color is a media problem that hides the real truth that when the collapse comes it will be a have and have not war not a race war as was mentioned like before

starfcker
starfcker
September 6, 2016 12:27 pm

Happy talk SSS. You’re kidding yourself. Look at the most wanted in any of the cities you mention. No black or white faced to be found. And the crimes are heinous, and i live in a pretty violent city. The Arizona you love averages a kidnapping for ransom a day, we never had a kidnapping here that i can remember. The old school hispanic culture you and I both revere is not as dominant as it once was. There are some treacherous dudes out there. http://www.epcounty.com/sheriff/top10mostwanted.htm

General
General
September 6, 2016 12:34 pm

When blacks riot, neighbors burn. When whites riot, continents burn.

Billy
Billy
September 6, 2016 1:53 pm

Whole thing smacks of whistling past the graveyard…

But, let’s go over it.

a large presence of Hispanics, is a buffer against any serious civil unrest. And that buffer is built on the Hispanic community’s CULTURE because ………

1) You don’t state the causation of the “serious civil unrest”. I guess we are to assume this hypothetical “serious civil unrest” will be instigated by some 3rd party Bad Actors and not by the Mexicans – who actually do have a history of instigating “serious civil unrest”.

– Mexican War of Independence 1810-1821
– Long Expedition 1819
– Fredonian Rebellion 1826-1827
– Spanish Reconquer Effort 1821-1829
– Mexico-Indian Wars 1821-1929 (yes, you read that right – 108 years)
– War of the South 1829-1831
– Era of Mexican Coups 1820’s-1846
– Texas Revolution 1835-1836
– First Franco-Mexican War 1838-1839
– Mexican-American War 1846-1848
– Caste War of Yukatan 1847-1901
– Revolution of Ayutla 1854-1855
– Reform War 1857-1861
– Cortina Troubles 1859-1861
– Second Franco-Mexican War 1861-1867
– Garza Revolution 1891-1893
– Mexican Revolution 1910-1920
– Border War 1910-1919
– Plan of San Diego raids 1915
– Cristero War 1926-1929
– Spanish Civil War 1936-1939
– WWII 1942-1945
– Mexico-Guatamala conflict 1958-1959
– Dirty War 1968-1982
– Zapatista uprising 1994
– Mexican War on Drugs 2006-present

Now, in fairness, a good deal of these are apparently “sanctioned” by the Mexican government – such as their involvement in WWII.

But a good deal isn’t.

Just looking over the list, I’m seeing a lot of “revolution” and “uprising”… does not exactly instill confidence.

And, there’s this – the Zapatista “uprising” ended not in the defeat of the Zapatistas, but by their being co-opted.

The Mexican government – thanks to NAFTA – bussed the Zapatistas from Chiapas to the maquiladora sections of Mexico, hard up against the US border, and gave them jobs. A man is much less likely to pick up a rifle and start whacking State Goons if he has a job and can feed his family. They stayed there, until US companies realized they could pay Haji 10 cents an hour vs Juan and Maria’s 5 bucks an hour…

When the US companies pulled stumps for Asia, it left them all suckin hind tit.

Well, they had a choice – go back to the jungles of Chiapas, many hundreds of miles to the South – or go to the big, rich, welfare state Home of the Free Shit just to the north? Easy choice, especially when you consider the Mexican Government encouraged them to do so and even gave them maps and “how to milk the system and soak Whitey” guides…

And they came here… and their Marxist ideology is intact…

2) Their culture is just that – theirs. Not yours. Not mine. Certainly not American. Theirs.

The list of wars and conflicts and uprisings listed above include a good deal of them based on nothing more different than culture…. if not something more nebulous like ideology…

Racial groups like La Raza – who trade on things like culture – have openly made their plans known that they are currently in the process of “reconquering” parts of North America for their mythical, phony-baloney “homeland” of Aztlan.

This does NOT include you, Mr. Whitebread. Which means ethnic cleansing. Which is a war crime.

—-It has a strong sense of family.

Yeah? And?

—-It has its own language, Spanish, spoken globally by 570 million people.

Which they use to insulate themselves from OUR culture and maintain their own – which they have already demonstrated a willingness to fight a war over.

—-It has its own food, loved by many Americans coast to coast.

Really? Bad Things won’t happen here because of fucking burritos?

—-It has its preferred faith, Roman Catholicism, and perforce, moral imperatives.

Speaking as a renegade Catholic, I can tell you that the Church has been thoroughly corrupted from the inside out and compromised by Marxists – proof of which starts with Bella Dodd’s testimony in front of Congress and continues with Vatican II being hijacked by modernist theologians, the book AA1025 detailing the methods they used to infiltrate and corrupt the Church, the pedophile priest scandal, Pope Benedict the first pope to voluntarily “retire” in literally a thousand years, replaced by a weak minded, easily influenced fool controlled by Soros-funded efforts. You’d be surprised what $650,000 dollars will buy you – Bishops, a couple Cardinals… including Rodriguez, the Pope’s chief and most trusted “advisor”…

Which means their version of Catholicism has been hijacked and corrupted by Marxism… and people wonder why Catholic NGO’s are importing non-Europeans from every 3rd world shithole into the US… welp, there’s your answer.

“Moral imperatives”… feh. I’d sooner trust eating raw Death Angels in my salad than trust them and their “moral imperatives”…

http://www.uaex.edu/yard-garden/resource-library/plant-week/death-angel-mushroom.aspx

—-It has its own holidays and personal celebrations such as Cinco de Mayo and Quincianera.

All of which have Jack and Shit to do with US culture… and Jack left town. Just more insulating themselves from their host country.

—-It has its own forms of dress, music, theater, art, literature and dance.

Same as above.

Moving on…

Translation? Hispanics will not obliterate their communities because of some perceived injustice. Won’t happen.

Heh… you apply the “Blacks burning down and destroying their own shit”metric to the Mexicans, and say that will never happen.

I agree. They’re not so stupid as to burn down their own shit. But using that as justification for “social unrest not happening” is just stupid.

They’ll come find you and burn down your shit, if anything.

The overall tone of your post is “I got this black friend, and he totally isn’t like that”….

It is the very definition of cognitive dissonance… Literally “Nothing has happened, so nothing WILL happen”…

Good luck… you’re gonna need it.

Edit: You lump them all under the title of “Hispanics”.

Now, I was going to ask you where, exactly the country of “Hispania” is supposed to be, but I’ll let it go in favor of this point:

Fact of the matter is, what you see as “Hispanics” are not just your garden-variety mestizo lettuce pickers from Mexico… they also include Guats, Colombians, Ecuadorans, El Salvadorans, Venezuelans, etc, etc…

And they all fucking hate each other. There’s a pecking order, and from what I remember, the Colombians are at the top of the pile (if you ask them, that is) because they not only actually speak Castilian Spanish, but are the most light-skinned Iberian of the bunch… the full-blood Indians from places like Chiapas are at the bottom. They all have their own gangs, their own little mini-cultures going on, etc.

And they all bring their own unique problems with them – think of those Shining Path fucks – but most notably the conflict and friction between themselves.

So, the biggest dog on the “Hispanic” porch are the Mexicans – for sure – but they are by no means the only dog on the porch…

So there’s that to think about… might want to re-assess your post.

bb
bb
September 6, 2016 2:44 pm

Damn Billy , Don’t sugar coat it. Tell SSS what you really think.
Bravo my good Man.

SSS
SSS
September 6, 2016 3:33 pm

“Hmmm…. Hispanics don’t engage in civil unrest? Someone tell SSS about Venezuela … or show him the maps posted here not so long ago where many (most?) of the world’s most violent cities are in our southern hemisphere.”
—-Stucky

I discussed Hispanics living in the southwestern US, not Latin America, and the lack of civil unrest where they live in large numbers here.

I am well-versed on the unrest in Venezuela (created by the idiotic policies of a socialist government) and the high murder rates in many cities of Central and South America, where there are massive pockets of extreme poverty and gang violence. What does that have to do with what I wrote?

Stucky
Stucky
September 6, 2016 3:47 pm

“What does that have to do with what I wrote?” ——– SSS

Well, you talk about Hispanics — OK, SOUTHWEST USA!USA!USA! Hispanics — as if they have some special traits, unlike all other humans (Hispanic and non-Hispanic alike) which makes them incapable of dastardly human acts, such as violence. This is a crock of horse pucky.

I didn’t spend a lot of time fleshing out my ideas … cuz I’m too fucken busy with other shit.

But … BILLY did!! He came out of semi-retirement to smoke your ass lol You should spend more time refuting his post. If you can.

Billy
Billy
  Stucky
September 6, 2016 3:59 pm

Yeah, nothing can happen in the Southwest – Beanbag Ground Zero – because reasons…

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These guys look like the nice, upstanding types to help out Old Lady Johannsen with her trash or hold open a door or not do shit like burn down Evil Whitey’s house and chase him out so they can have their little fraud “homeland”…

Where’s Tucson again? El Paso? Just checkin’… .

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TE
TE
September 6, 2016 4:50 pm

Keep telling yourselves that your neighbors, families, dogs, won’t be freaking out including rioting if the groceries and pharmacies are closed/emptied out for any length of time.
Their are oh-so-many ways that our just-in-time supply chain could just-be-screwed.
Let the babies be crying from hunger, and the teens be jonesing from electronic withdrawals (as may you), and see how little it takes for us genteel, and non-chemically damaged (ha!), 40% obese, whites stand patiently in line as the government makes excuses.
Whatever, I just love fairytales.
Want to make the world a better place? Quit hating, quit warring, quit spending and withdraw your support from it all.
Or, keep pointing fingers, keep watching the likes of Gates and Waltons suck up all the cash that the government, pharm and MIC doesn’t, keep hating victims, and being afraid.
Keep demanding somebody “do something.”
Keep thinking darkness, financial devastation, murder, family destruction will keep you safe.
Yep. Love to you guys. Hugs.

SSS
SSS
September 6, 2016 6:53 pm

The overall tone of (SSS’s) post is “I got this black friend, and he totally isn’t like that”…. It is the very definition of cognitive dissonance… Literally “Nothing has happened, so nothing WILL happen”…
—-Billy

You have an amazing inability to read without comprehension. I used the terms “unlikely” and “very low” to describe the likelihood of Hispanic civil unrest in the southwestern US. I never said it wouldn’t happen and even gave an example when it DID happen. Your bullshit interpretation amounted to cognitive dissonance on YOUR part that it will never happen when I admitted it did happen. How stupid can you get?

You posted a long laundry list of Mexicans having a history of instigating serious civil unrest. Yeah, in Mexico. I discussed Mexican-American activities in the southwestern US, not Mexico. Look at a fucking map, dipshit.

Finally, you throw in La Raza (The Race). Laughable. This radical racist organization claims the entire Southwest plus California as theirs. It has zero traction in American politics, none. One of the better known activists for Hispanic civil rights, Cesar Chavez of Tucson and the United Farm Workers, had this to say about La Raza many years ago, “Today it’s anti-gringo, tomorrow it’s anti-Negro.”

Don’t bring a knife to a gun fight, Billy. I’ll smoke your sorry ass every time. Your “Beaner Ground Zero” comment on the American southwest, where I live, convinces me you’re a white racist in the truest sense of the word.

AC
AC
  SSS
September 6, 2016 9:30 pm

Finally, you throw in La Raza (The Race). Laughable. This radical racist organization claims the entire Southwest plus California as theirs. It has zero traction in American politics, none.

You are either painfully ignorant, or lying, about La Raza. They have, for decades, worked – successfully – to cultivate influence on government. To say they have no traction in American politics is absolutely wrong.

I think Elizabeth Warren (Indian activist) and John King (Secretary of Education) both spoke at their annual conference this year, in Orlando.

The vast majority of people would be blissfully unaware of it, but politicians are not. They frequent the various La Raza conventions. Their 2017 annual convention is going to be in Phoenix. Look at their corporate sponsors, should be entertaining.

Billy
Billy
  SSS
September 7, 2016 12:39 pm

Heheheheh…

You have an amazing inability to read without comprehension. I used the terms “unlikely” and “very low” to describe the likelihood of Hispanic civil unrest in the southwestern US. I never said it wouldn’t happen and even gave an example when it DID happen.

Never said it wouldn’t happen?

Really?

You said this in your OP, yes? ===> “A strong Hispanic presence in certain places of the country, irrespective of its economic status, will simply NOT allow its communities to be destroyed by large scale civil unrest. Rioting and looting in Hispanic communities are largely viewed as attacks on “OUR businesses, OUR neighbors, OUR friends, OUR acquaintances, and worst of all in the eyes of Hispanics, MY family.” Translation? Hispanics will not obliterate their communities because of some perceived injustice. Won’t happen.

What’s that bit in the middle? “…Simply NOT allow..”? Emphasis YOURS.

What’s that last bit at the end? “WON’T HAPPEN”…? Emphasis mine.

So, if you never said that, then how did it get in there? You sound 100% convinced and pretty adamant about the whole thing. Not “highly unlikely” or “extremely low” – you flat-out say: “This will not happen”.

Your own words.

Now, just on the strength of this – you saying “I never said that”, when you DID and it’s right up there ^ for everyone to see – one could argue that you are being disingenuous and/or intellectually dishonest.

But, I think it’s due to your extreme advanced age and the fact that your mental abilities are not what they used to be. You’re just addelpated, is all. I don’t think you can remember to take your liver pills on time or what you had for breakfast this morning, much less trusted to remember what you wrote in a discussion thread – even though it’s at the top of the page right under the masthead for easy reference.

Which means the rest of your rant is based on this demonstrably-wrong false premise: You never said that, but you did. Which means I can confidently discard everything built upon that false premise.

But where’s the fun in that? Now that you’re down, I’m going to kick you. Maybe beat you with a stick.

Your bullshit interpretation amounted to cognitive dissonance on YOUR part that it will never happen when I admitted it did happen.

Wait… so now you’re saying that I’m arguing it will never happen? And this happened when? I’m only going by your own words.

How stupid can you get?

I have my moments, like everyone, but arguing the content of a post that is right up there ^ with an Alzheimer’s patient who can’t remember to wipe his ass, much less what he wrote 24 hours ago has to be a new low for me.

You posted a long laundry list of Mexicans having a history of instigating serious civil unrest. Yeah, in Mexico. I discussed Mexican-American activities in the southwestern US, not Mexico. Look at a fucking map, dipshit.

Well, then I guess we have Magic Dirt – it’s the only explanation for your position.

I’m going to compare two known situations and how they both apply to your position in that IT WON’T HAPPEN HERE. I know it’s difficult, but follow me on this one:

Anyone with more than two working brain cells agrees that importing millions of Jihadis into Europe and the US is a bad fucking idea. They have a history of killing people, blowing shit up, starting wars, etc. And that’s over there where they live. Why would we want to import these people into the US? Then we will have that behavior over here – and we don’t want to get blown up, killed or have our shit burned down, right?

So, if the Mexicans (not the only group we’re talking about, but whatever) have a long and hallowed history of insurrection and war in their own country and we import them in their millions over here, they will cease this behavior – according to you – because…. I dunno, burritos?

Because they crossed an arbitrary line between our two countries – which is really just two steps wide – then all 35-45 million of them will somehow realize they are supposed to purport themselves differently now that they are here in the US?

Only reason I can figure this one out is because of our Magic Dirt. Over there, they are unruly, ignorant, violent, warlike savages. But let them cross this line into our territory – which looks just like their territory – and I’m sure they will smarten right up and start behaving themselves…

http://www.vdare.com/articles/john-derbyshire-on-why-race-realism-makes-more-sense-than-magic-dirt-theory

Finally, you throw in La Raza (The Race). Laughable. This radical racist organization claims the entire Southwest plus California as theirs. It has zero traction in American politics, none.

Zero traction in American politics. None.

These are your words, yes?

With plenty of clout in both the White House and Congress, it might not be much of a surprise that La Raza even reaches into the U.S. Supreme Court. Justice Sonia Sotomayor is a former member of La Raza whose membership lasted at least six years. Interestingly, when her nomination to the high court was announced, La Raza praised her but omitted any mention of her membership.

https://capitalresearch.org/2015/02/la-razas-growing-influence-gaining-clout-and-tax-dollars-in-all-branches-of-government/

Zero traction… none…

I’ll just sit here and let the obliviousness of your statement soak into the readership… bask in the glory that is you getting your ass kicked…

As far as them being anti-negro, well what else is new? I understand that the mestizo gangs in LA have been ethnically cleansing their areas of blacks for years now, on orders of EME, MS13, the Zetas, etc… you’re talking like this is a new thing or that we don’t hear things back here in Yokelville…

Moving on…

Don’t bring a knife to a gun fight, Billy. I’ll smoke your sorry ass every time.

Actually, I just destroyed you. Again. Took your own words and curb-stomped you with them. Go back to your golf game, Methuselah…

Your “Beaner Ground Zero” comment on the American southwest, where I live, convinces me you’re a white racist in the truest sense of the word.

LMAO!

Now I know I’ve won! Anytime someone starts hurling around PC-conflict epithets – especially raaaycisss! – that means they have FUCK ALL. What’s next? KKK references? Comparisons to Hitler or the Nazi’s? David Duke references?

Same shit the cultural Marxists do – undiluted Alinsky… when you got fuck-all and just got destroyed, last resort is to throw PC-conflict epithets… it is an admission of defeat.

You got nothing, ya dusty old addelpated antique… pack your shit and go back to On Golden Pond.

Edit Pssst! SSS! Ya know what? Yelling “raayciss!” at someone only works if they actually give a fuck…

Stucky
Stucky
September 6, 2016 9:30 pm

oh oh ….. SSS brought out the RACCCISSSS card! Boy, is Billy gonna be pissed.

What’s wrong with being a “white racist” anyway??

Billy
Billy
  Stucky
September 7, 2016 1:22 pm

Nah, I ain’t pissed…

SSS has one magazine in his house. Probably Golf World or Snooty Laughs For People Who Think They’re Better Than Everyone Else

He is so mentally compromised by his Alzheimer’s, the magazine is “new” to him every morning…

Poor guy.

Edit: My pity for his dilapidated mental condition won’t stop this from happening to him, tho…

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SSS
SSS
September 6, 2016 10:27 pm

“I think Elizabeth Warren (Indian activist) and John King (Secretary of Education) both spoke at their annual conference this year, in Orlando.”
—-AC

You cite two of the most far-left liberals, the 1/32nd Cherokee Pocahontas senator from Massachusetts and an obscure educator from New York who has spent a couple of years in the classroom, as your examples of politicians who support La Raza. Get back to me when you have some fucking substance, asshole. Hey, I’ll give you a hint. How about Raul Grijalva, an Arizona congressman and Castro-hugger?

Get cracking, ding-dong. I’m way ahead of you.

AC
AC
  SSS
September 6, 2016 11:14 pm

That Elizabeth Warren and John King spoke at the national La Raza conference is important. Elizabeth Warren is likely there, primarily, courting the national Hispanic vote for Hillary and secondarily courting the Hispanics of Massachusetts (about 10% of the population) for her own reelection campaign in the future. She views the organization as important to her political success. This hardly supports your claim that the organization has zero traction in American politics. One might even view this as a prima facie contradiction of your claim.

John King – Secretary of Education at the apparently obscure US Department of Education – being there is perhaps more interesting: La Raza has been actively subverting the public educational system. In particular, they work to influence both textbook content and classroom curricula to portray US law and culture as racist and lacking in legitimacy. Presumably part of laying the foundation for their ‘Atzlan’ aspirations. If he is pandering to them – this, too, appears to refute your claim that La Raza has zero traction in American politics.

Raul Grijalva holding public office seems to reinforce my point, as well – again, at the expense of your claim.

La Raza has traction in American politics, and is working hard to increase it. This is not something to be ignored, it should be disrupted.

Billy
Billy
  AC
September 7, 2016 1:46 pm

AC,

I cited an interesting article above re: La Raza and how their influence extends all the way to our Supreme Court.

Worth the read.

SSS
SSS
September 6, 2016 10:35 pm

“oh oh ….. SSS brought out the RACCCISSSS card! Boy, is Billy gonna be pissed. What’s wrong with being a “white racist” anyway??”
—-Stucky

If you want to argue with me, fine. Do so. If you want to stir up some shit, forget it. I’ve been on to your game for many years.

Full Retard
Full Retard
September 7, 2016 12:33 am

I wish I could say that I was amused by Billy Bodeen’s KU graduation thesis. I guess he never learned one iota more since he was filled to capacity with that ‘larning’.

He lists the wars Mexico has had involvement in since their war of independence. He lets the readers assume this is proof of Mexicans’ tendency to civil unrest. Too bad Mexico didn’t reach the German record despite having had more time since the conquest.

Bodeen tries to be fair but doesn’t see anything in the long history of wars to instill confidence. I am not sure if he was referring to Germany or Mexico.

Then he re-hashes the old story, see his earlier tale back in 2013, about the indigenous peoples of Chiapas fighting the foreign invaders of their native lands. In this modern time, there still exist in Mexico several American natives, indigenous peoples who hang on to their culture and language. Perhaps it is the influence of the Libertador, Simon Bolivar, who believed in allowing the preservation and liberation of enslaved peoples throughout Latin America. Billy Bodeen reflects the Merican preference for genocide and cultural defacement of indigenous peoples.

The indians of Chiapas have been pushed off their mineral-rich lands and exploited by so-called maquilas that have hired them for low pay and often for no pay as the operators abscond with their work and paycheck.

Billy Bodeen glosses over a lot of the fine details of that abuse to equate the Zapatista uprising with all illegals from Mexico. My own family is retro-actively tainted by these rebels. As if being a
rebel against the government means you automatically have no cause.

The big tard will never let folks forget about the demonic group La Raza. He is not clear which group that is, he says it’s a racial group. Lower class Mexicans adopted that identity to designate anybody from Mexico. The political startups of the seventies tried to capitalize on that identity to motivate Hispanics to political action. The whole thing died on the vine. Not without help from other Hispanics who, as my cousin witnessed, began to shoot at a theater where his group from Denver sought to recruit Hispanics in El Paso. I recounted the incident to a friend in my home town on the border, he said, ‘that was me’. He was married to a gringa and so I understood how he could object to such a movement.

Then old blowhard goes on to declaim the Catholic Church and lay the whole enchilada on Hispanics. He continues with a breathless tale about how Hispanics all hate each other and describes a pecking order based on skin color and Spanish fluency. As if white Mericans all hated each other based on their state of origin and degrees of tardness, with WASPs at the top and Hillbillys at the bottom of the pecking order. Sheesh.

Apparently, we are simply waiting for the signal from Erik Estrada or Ted Cruz to go full chimp. The Southern Tard has a fertile imagination, understandably so because it is full of bullshit. Take a look at who swallowed your chickenshit bullshit shit, Bodeen, it aint the cream of the crop here.

Billy
Billy
  Full Retard
September 7, 2016 1:09 pm

Hi El,

Been a long time. I see you’re still true to form in taking assumed names and creating sock puppets to give the impression of more people having your “point of view”… too bad you’re not smart enough to change your writing style. Might as well have a rotating light on top, it’s so obvious.

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Moving on…

He lists the wars Mexico has had involvement in since their war of independence. He lets the readers assume this is proof of Mexicans’ tendency to civil unrest.

Wrong. More than wrong, it is a lie. A blatant one.

In fact, I went out of my way to say this:

“Now, in fairness, a good deal of these are apparently “sanctioned” by the Mexican government – such as their involvement in WWII.

But a good deal isn’t.

Just looking over the list, I’m seeing a lot of “revolution” and “uprising”… does not exactly instill confidence.”

Does that sound like “He lets the readers assume this is proof of Mexicans’ tendency to civil unrest.”?

Nope. It sounds like me using their own tendency to civil unrest as proof of their tendency of civil unrest. And I even cited that a good portion of the conflicts in that list were state sanctioned involvements in larger wars, specifically citing WWII, and NOT uprisings or attempts at revolution…

Your intellectual dishonesty has not changed. You omitted the above on purpose, then used the lie of omission to gin up that steaming pile you started off your dogshit rebuttal with…

You haven’t changed one damn bit. Still dishonest. Still a lying piece of shit. Still disingenuous.

I could take your post line by line and fucking destroy you, but it won’t matter. I’ve destroyed you before, and then I got bored with it… I take a break, new readership comes along, you change your name and try to reinvent yourself… same old, same old. Like a fucking pederast who moves to another city and changes his name…

You still suck shit.

Ungringafied
Ungringafied
September 7, 2016 10:47 am

Fascinating, Tard. Fascinating.

SSS
SSS
September 7, 2016 1:07 pm

@ Full Retard

Good comments. Billy will ignore them.

yahsure
yahsure
September 7, 2016 1:34 pm

Tucson,I considered moving there.The more i read about the place the more i learned about why i would never live there. When i delivered there i kept noticing the large amount of homeless people.(the warm weather?) You can have the place.

SSS
SSS
September 7, 2016 8:28 pm

Ok, this article has dropped off the thread. So it’s time to announce the winners and losers who commented.

The winners are those who posted early and saw clearly the subliminal message of the post: the reasons WHY blacks are violent and can turn to destructive civil unrest in a New York minute, and Hispanics, not so much. I never tried to send a clear signal in the article in that direction, other than my mention of Black Lives Matter as a hint. You guys picked up on it. Congrats.

The winners are: snakepliskin, Anonymous, Iska Waran, and rhs jr. Honorable mention to Southern Sage.

The losers are bb, AC and Billy, who jumped in with irrelevant, racist bullshit about Hispanics and TOTALLY missed the point. Honorable mention to Stucky.

Full Retard
Full Retard
September 7, 2016 10:07 pm

Two points:

1. Billy, glad to see you back in the fray, this place has become so civilized I can almost expect to get an invite to Stucky’s open house tea party. I had to seek the shelter of dyed in the wool dicks like Dutchman and bb. Can you believe I got a tongue-lashing from El Stucko because I hurt Martha’s feelings?

Anyway, nice to get some push-back, most of the time these assholes act like Springsteen and do not do you the courtesy of even a ‘fuck you’. The mush that passes for conversation here is the equivalent of sex with a fat chick, you never know if you are getting your point across no matter hard or how long you push.

I was afraid you had gone queer on us and ran off with one of the hot gays on this site.

2. I wanted to add this comment last night: when you tangle with SSS, you can walk away feeling self-satisfied that you won. Check your pockets, check and see if your still have a shirt on. SSS is the master of mind-fuck. Dull folks only get the surface meaning but there is a deeper meaning that only the initiated can interpret. I’m not saying he is a master of deception but it is easy to confuse the truth if your not careful around SSS. That said, I’m sure he enjoyed messing with your mind. I’ve noticed that since the comments got all sappy and touchy-feely, he has limited involvement. Even Stucky has had to find comfort in cabinet painting since his erection abandoned him for lack of manly interaction.

marijuana smoker
marijuana smoker
September 7, 2016 10:17 pm

So, like, um, the winners understood the “subliminal message” about the niggers, but, um the losers are “racist” because they dissed the Spics. TOTALLY makes sense now, dude!

SSS
SSS
  marijuana smoker
September 7, 2016 11:38 pm

“So, like, um, the winners understood the “subliminal message” about the niggers, but, um the losers are “racist” because they dissed the Spics. TOTALLY makes sense now, dude!”
—-marijuana smoker

So, like, um, fuck off, duuuuuuude. I presented clear cultural differences between Hispanics and, unsaid, blacks. Hispanic culture has the strength to keep them united and proud of who they are, to include pride of being an American of Hispanic heritage. That’s important, and I unabashedly admire that.

Black culture, what’s left of it, was destroyed by the US government starting in the 1960s. Unless you’re a fan of rap music and a 70% illegitimate birth rate. Take another deep draw from like, um, your doobie, duuuuude.

Full Retard
Full Retard
  SSS
September 8, 2016 12:07 am

Sounds like Pothead is a sore loser or maybe just a loser.

marijuana smoker
marijuana smoker
September 8, 2016 12:39 am

The next time I make a bong in the pottery studio I’m going to put an extra large bowl on it and name it the SSS because you will need to be really stoned to think that you’ll be safe in a city with 40% Hispanic after TSHTF. You’ll be safe right up until MS-13 appoints themselves the new city council.

Yes, Hispanics have many fine qualities, but they’re total push-overs when violent people rise up from their midst. Cowards wouldn’t be too strong a word. They will acquiesce to gang-rule quicker than any other breed.

BUCKHED
BUCKHED
September 8, 2016 5:32 am

Hunger and disease knows no boundaries . EVERY racial group will go full tilt boogie when all the things that make life bearable are gone ( Stucky mentions this as well ) . Hell some may band together in an alliance to make sure that they can equally loot and burn in a concentrated effort .

I will say having lived in Texas that the Hispanics that have lived there for generations see themselves as Texicans and are a different racial group altogether . They love Texas and hate the illegals .

When ot comes to violence the blacks don’t have crap on the Hispanics . The Hispanics have changed the demographics in Compton . They didn’t do by asking the blacks nicely to move .

Finally the one thing I enjoy a lot more than their food is the beauty of some of their women . Selma…you loot me anytime !