Guest post by bionic mosquito
THE NWE YORK TIMES …. pretends to do investigative reporting.
Before the United States permitted a terrifying way of interrogating prisoners, government lawyers and intelligence officials assured themselves of one crucial outcome. They knew that the methods inflicted on terrorism suspects would be painful, shocking and far beyond what the country had ever accepted. But none of it, they concluded, would cause long lasting psychological harm.
Fifteen years later, it is clear they were wrong.
How the story has changed, from “we don’t torture,” to “well maybe a little, but it yields great intelligence,” to “we don’t do it in horrific ways anymore,” to “we didn’t know that it would hurt.”
I will go right to the punch line, in case you don’t want to read further: all that the United States torturers needed to do to realize the certainty of “long lasting psychological harm” is to have a sit down with John McCain. Talk about someone with permanent and obvious psychological harm!
Continue reading at http://bionicmosquito.blogspot.com/2016/10/the-new-york-times.html
OK – a Die Hard. Negative on his balls. Positive on his dick. Knife switch. Send him to Yemen (no constitution). Get the info we need.
I can think of a surefire way to stop this: stop meddling in the middle east to begin with. No need to torture ‘suspected terrorists’ in places like Iraq or Libya if we aren’t involved in those nations. Which, since they posed no threat to the US, we shouldn’t be.
To all those who like to defend this practice, if you think it could never be used on you, you are wrong. Today’s ‘constitutional conservative’/libertarian/patriot could very well be the guy with HIS head in the toilet a few years from now.
Only Rosie O’Donnell.
Torture should be reserved for the self serving ass clowns (EDIT: and Rosie O’Donnell) that spend their careers KNOWINGLY destroying our culture and country from within……….and in those cases it should be public and end with the people being allowed to stone them to death with pea-gravel delivered with wrist rockets!
Just as with Al Qaeda and ISIS being being proxies that allow the US to carry out acts of terrorism without reprisal, it’s been my understanding for several decades now that the US has secret prisons in places like Egypt and Syria where we send certain prisoners because each of those nations has very particular and effective methods of sadistic torture. While “WE” may not have been the ones doing the actual torture, it was being done in our name nonetheless. I became aware of the facility in bum fuck Egypt because I knew people who packed the food supplies being sent to that place. It was later that I learned what the place was for and that we also had a prison in Syria for similar reasons.
The USA is the biggest bully on the planet. Our military is the enforcement arm of the global, banker owned mafia. End the fed to end this shit! If we can’t do that then just stop bitching about it and get used to it because it won’t stop.
Whether it”s “torture” today or Colonists deliberately sniping enemy officers from the trees (a “war crime” at the time), the winning side is the one that does what is necessary to win.
The question is, since we are engaged in a war regardless of whether or not you wanted it, do we have the will to win or will we lose because we don’t.
Losing doesn’t mean just taking our ball and going home, it means we suffer consequences far into our future.
Consequences we won’t be happy with as they unfold.
Torture always has been and always will be. It’s not a good thing but that is the way it is. Not using torture is like going to a gunfight armed with a knife.