One World Purple People Leaders

by Uncola for TheBurningPlatform.com

On November 16, 2016 I posted an essay which was actually the conclusion of a three part series, comparing current events with those of the French Revolution and with a touch of Charles Dickens thrown in just for fun.

The concluding essay, entitled:  “The Good, the Guilty and the Guillotine”, addressed various national uprisings that began in 2011 and proposed the possibility of an incipient Purple Revolution taking place in America.  Furthermore, Donald Trump was compared to the Biblical Samson as one who, potentially, could collapse the twin columns of the political Right and Left before a new phoenix arises from the ashes.  And finally, the aftermath of the inevitable forthcoming cataclysms were questioned along with the assertion that no middle ground could be ceded between the opposing forces.

Now consider the events that have taken place since Trump’s presidential election victory over Hillary Clinton on November 8, 2016.  Since then, we have witnessed riots taking place in American cities that some claim are being coordinated by a wicked trifecta of leftist politicians, a community organizer and a globalist financier who has bankrolled previous color revolutions abroad.

At the same time, the Corporate Media has been relentlessly emphasizing the significance of Hillary Clinton’s poplar vote win which, in turn, has led to an effort to abolish the United States Electoral College in the 114th Congress.  Secessionists in California have submitted a proposed ballot measure with the goal of a statewide vote in 2018; the Washington Post appears to be advocating for the censorship of alleged Russian controlled Fake News websites while simultaneously reporting on recount efforts in key battleground states due to “apparent foreign interference” during this year’s election.

Paradoxically, and in a very prophetic manner, the Clinton Campaign warned us two days before the election regarding the impending eruptions of Fake News just prior to Julian Assange’s strange disappearance.

Yes, as the world turns, time’s pendulum swings and current events transpire like the watch of a hypnotist who says you are getting sleepy.  Is it possible the global elite could be using the Hegelian Dialectic to soon translate the ever-increasing chaos into order?

How could this happen, you ask?  After all, Trump won.

Yes, Trump won, but he doesn’t now, nor will he, hold the reins of real power.  As I have mentioned before, those behind the curtain of the global financial system could turn him into the reincarnated spirit of Herbert Hoover faster than a high-frequency trader’s algorithm can process a sell-order.  In fact, just this week, Zero Hedge posted an article entitled “Welcome to Hooverville”  which paints this very picture.  The author, Jeff Thomas, states therein:

The sense of disenfranchisement of Democratic voters is palatable and it would not be surprising if what we’re observing is the re-election of Herbert Hoover.

Like his predecessor in 1928, Mister Trump is a highly successful businessman who has never held public office before and has been seen by his voters to represent a move away from statism. Ironically, his presidency may unintentionally create the exact opposite effect.

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What I believe we shall witness in the US will therefore be not only the second half of the Greater Depression, but, in addition, the “Second Wave of Collectivism.” This may well come under what will become known as “the Purple Revolution.”

Think about this.  Even if the central planners pulled the plug on the economy in any number of ways, devastating financial hardship would progressively ensue in America and beyond.  If this were to happen, can you imagine the vitriolic invective, vehemence and violence that would soon be spewing from those who currently claim Trump is not their president?  Now, what about those living in other countries of which Trump really isn’t their president?  Surely, the global ramifications of a worldwide economic crisis are enough to cause Herbert Hoover to twist and turn terribly in his grave to the rhythmic rhyme of historical inevitability.

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Obviously, in the casino that is the modern economy, the odds favor the house .  Trump, of all people, must surely understand how the cards are stacked against him and whatever hand he is dealt, he will need many tricks up his sleeve.

And, not just financial tricks.

Imagine the media, the libtarded useful idiots and special snowflakes all screaming in disharmony for appeasement in the event of increased terrorism or perhaps even more “lone wolf” knife attacks by refugees similar to what happened at Ohio State this week.  They will say Trump is responsible for the increase in attacks because he has stirred up the Un-native Americans and unfulfilled potential immigrants by his xenophobic ineptitude.

Even the seemingly prescient Brandon Smith, who predicted both BREXIT and Trump’s win, also warns of the approaching Ordo Ab Chao and says:

Conservatives have been given almost absolute influence over government (or apparent influence); by extension, they also inherit absolute responsibility, whether they like it or not.

So what happens when the current crescendos of chaos build to a cumulative climax?  Well, remember, Donald Trump has promised to be our law and order president and he takes the helm on January 20th, 2017.  It will be very interesting to see how both the Black Lives Matter fanatics as well as those in the liberty movement view each other when the Donald introduces his new nationwide “Stop and Frisk” policy.

There are those claiming Trump has highjacked the liberty movement in America today and others who say he simply gathered up the remnant  after the Tea Party died.  No matter how you look at it, there are currently a lot of Trump voters scratching their collective heads while taking off their MAGA hats.

Since his election victory, Trump has told the world the Clintons are good people who don’t deserve a special prosecutor; said, as president, he will seek council from President Obama; tweeted he was “very impressed” with David Petraeus for Secretary of State; is currently considering Mitt Romney for Secretary of State; has appointed Steven Mnuchin, a former Goldman Sachs shark, as Treasury Secretary and, apparently, has nothing but the highest regard for neocon warmongers like John Bolton and the Bilderberger Richard Haas, who is also a member of the Council of Foreign Relations.

Of course, there is more, but you get the idea.

So much for the globalists seeing their days of overwhelming corruption and encroaching tyranny coming to an end.

In the meantime, Communist Party protesters are burning American flags in response to Trump Tweets, the world’s democracies are flashing red, the mainstream media is reporting on civil wars within BOTH the GOP and the Democratic Party and some are sounding alarms regarding the “Coming Collapse of the World’s Biggest Economy”.

In the last link above, the founder and chairman of Casey Research, Doug Casey, says this regarding past and future world events:

The Social Democratic, Christian Democratic, Socialist, Communist, and similar parties have ruled Europe since the end of World War 2. They’re all pretty similar in that they promote massive welfare benefits, strong labor unions, large state bureaucracies, very high taxes, strict regulations, and an atmosphere of Cultural Marxism. Then, every few generations, the voters react and install a “fascist” regime. These keep most of the socialist characteristics but tend to be supported by, and friendly to, Big Business. That, and they add on nationalism, xenophobia, and militarism.

The last time this happened was in the 1930s. In those days it was spurred by the Great Depression. This time it will be spurred by the Greater Depression, plus massive waves of Muslim migrants from the Near East and Africa. So I expect to see more neo-fascist political parties everywhere.

In America today, we are definitely witnessing anti-establishment fractures within the columns of both the Republican and Democratic parties.  On the right, it is the liberty loving, constitutionalists and Alt-right against the immigration loving, politically correct, fiscally irresponsible, establishment neocons.

On the left side of the equation, it is the Bernie Sanders national socialists against the neocon globalists and rainbow dreaming one-worlders, who want to sing in harmony, buy the world a Coke and snort it at the same time.

All the while, the Globalists are using economic warfare and color revolutions to shuffle the nations into various economic regions of fluid borders.  Nothing sparks revolution like war, high unemployment, food inflation and poor living conditions.

After the Roaring Twenties, the payments came due on “Black Tuesday”, October 29, 1929.  Following the Great Depression and World War II, the United Nations was born 16 years later, in 1945.

Upon the conclusion of the Roaring Nineties, the planes hit the World Trade Center buildings on Tuesday, September 11, 2001.  Next came the Patriot Act, the War on Terror and the financial collapse of 2007-2008.  Then, under president Obama, we experienced eight years of drift toward socialism complete with parabolic spikes of both welfare and debt.

Next year marks 16 years from 911 and, again, I ask, what comes next?

I like what Zman writes when it comes to “Irrepressible Conflict”:

A system that cannot tolerate dissent and makes war on anything that challenges it, cannot be made compatible with popular resistance to its policies. The managerial class can search about for tactics and language to try and square this circle, but they are faced with an irrepressible conflict. We either have normal countries with popular governments, responsive to the will of the people, or, we have an authoritarian, technocratic managerial state. It’s one or the other, but not both.

There is a top secret monster known as the Deep State and it has been growing exponentially since 2001.  It started out a “Little Shop of Horrors” like the hungry plant that threatened Rick Moranis and then grew like a tumor growing to the size of the Star Wars Death Star now circling Uranus.  It operates stealthily under the cover of a complicit media and it thrusts forward, unencumbered.

Consider this:  While the mainstream media shills were pointing out the dangers of fake news and while those who stood accused were lobbing their own grenades back into the enemy trenches;  a lame duck United States Congress passed the “Caesar Syria Civilian Protection Act of 2016” which requires “an assessment of the potential effectiveness, risks, and operational requirements of the establishment and maintenance of a no-fly zone over part or all of Syria”.

If you didn’t hear about this, ask yourself why.

A world war is coming soon, but for now, civil wars are raging.  In America, the battles are presently being fought without ammo and ordnance.  Nevertheless, it is a war and therefore a fight unto surrender or death.

It is just a matter of time.

Author: Uncola

I am one who has found the road less traveled while remaining a whiskered, whispering witness to the world. I hope what you just considered was worth the price and time spent. www.TheTollOnline.com

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starfcker
starfcker
December 1, 2016 6:46 am

Trump is about to inherit vast powers. He understands how to use them better than anyone has in a long time. Trump is saying gracious things about all kinds of scum now eager to steer their way out of his gunsights. We know who the deep state is. They are the ones in peril. And brandon smith is an idiot.

Gator
Gator
  starfcker
December 1, 2016 9:43 pm

I voted for the guy, but you have gone beyond drinking the koolaid, you are funneling it. As I’ve said before, I truly hope you are right, but I think you are delusional if you think he is somehow destroying the deep state by surrounding himself by it, and is going to somehow drain the swamp by swimming around in it.

starfcker
starfcker
  Gator
December 1, 2016 10:06 pm

Fair enough. Globalism is just a construct. It can be promoted. It can be trashed. The deep state as we call it, are babies compared to the power of the US government in the hands of someone who intends to use it. If I’m right, this won’t take long at all. Not fixed, by any means, but massively course corrected. Gator, you did your part. You voted. And we won. All I’m suggesting is, sit back, squash your anxiety, and let’s give this guy a chance to do what he says he intends to do. I don’t project anything. I don’t predict anything. Especially the details. But like we have talked about endlessly, if anybody thinks their little bucket list of pet causes matter, they are going to be bitterly dissapointed. Think big. No more endless war. A border. Prosecute white collar and black street crime. Cut the trade deficit. These are big things, and they will make our lives better. Let the small stuff go. And it’s all small stuff.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
  starfcker
December 2, 2016 9:45 am

Everyone has their place on TBP. Here is Starfcker doing his thing…

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starfcker
starfcker
  Francis Marion
December 3, 2016 12:00 am

Well, let’s see. The guy I wanted won. Obongocare will be history. TPP is history. My taxes are about to go down a lot. Government meddling in my business is about to go down a lot. The muzzie invasion is about to get shut down. Keith Ellison looks ready to take over the dimocrat party. Yeah, I see sunshine beaming in.

Untypical
Untypical
  starfcker
December 3, 2016 12:21 am

Plus Carrier is keeping 1,000 jobs stateside and we don’t have to watch Hillary on the Nightly News for the next four years.

Definite rays of light right there.

starfcker
starfcker
  Untypical
December 3, 2016 4:00 pm

Very true, unco

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
December 1, 2016 7:06 am

I LOVE THE SMELL OF DOOM IN THE MORNING!

I’m glad I’m 50 but I wish I were 70.

‘Murican politics, expanding worldwide debt slavery, shadow govt, Shylock bankers, pizzagate……..what’s not to love about the human race? I’m still pulling for SMOD 2016 or Giant Meteor 2016 to be inaugurated on 1-20-16. Either one will trump the Trump.

Montefrío
Montefrío
  IndenturedServant
December 1, 2016 9:26 am

I greatly respect Mr. Q’s work, pretty much across the board, although I’m not a Fourth Turning believer: I don’t subscribe to either linear or cyclical historical theory, being a “shit happens” random-event theorist myself. Haven’t commented here for a long time, given that I don’t fit in with the prevailing style in this particular tree-house, but…

I’m 70, and glad to be so. Don’t live in the USA, and kind of glad about that as well. Supported Trump’s candidacy from the get-go (how not?), but not without reservations about what would happen once he takes office. For me, if he fails to re-institute national monetary sovereignty (and I doubt he will), the best that can happen during his presidency is a claw-back of some of the worst excesses of “progressive” nonsense, but the core issue will not have been addressed: does the nation reclaim its financial and economic sovereignty and free itself from the international banking cartel or not? Y’all like to make fun of BB (I’ve done it myself), but he seems to have greatly matured in his thinking and recognized the core issue facing the USA: take genuine control of your national destiny, pare down government to the subsidiarity level or face the consequences. Forget meteors and the has-been Clintons’ “Purple Revolution”: follow the money!

God willing and the creek don’t rise, my son launches a long-planned well-drilling and water system biz in Argentina in January (tax reasons), a nation with enormous potential and one of the least small-biz-friendly political environments in the world, the new and supposedly biz-friendly government notwithstanding. It’s a very risky endeavor (thanks to gov), but…

Y’all are fighting an uphill battle up there, Trump or no Trump. I wish you all well with all my heart. Thank you Mr. Q for your hard work and to all of you for your contributions to it, including those of you who find me pretentious, offensive or whatever. I’m on your side come what may.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
  Montefrío
December 1, 2016 10:15 am

It’s the week of resurrection at TBP!

“given that I don’t fit in with the prevailing style”

M, the style here has always been a “bring your own” type. Your comments here were appreciated by many, myself included. There are a lot of personalities here and they vary widely. But that’s part of what makes it great and at times difficult to navigate.

Montefrío
Montefrío
  Francis Marion
December 1, 2016 1:58 pm

Thank you, sir.

Maggie
Maggie
  Montefrío
December 2, 2016 1:10 pm

Monty, where have you been?

Unrelated
Unrelated
  Montefrío
December 1, 2016 10:24 am

@ Montefrío

Yes. It is good to see you comment here again on TBP. If I am not mistaken, it was one year ago this month that you left. I remember because I was a new commenter at the time.

In any case, I do enjoy your perspectives here as well as on other websites throughout the blogosphere.

Montefrío
Montefrío
  Unrelated
December 1, 2016 1:59 pm

Thank you as well.

Administrator
Administrator
  Montefrío
December 1, 2016 2:02 pm

Montefrio

I always thought your comments were filled with wisdom and common sense. I was very sorry when one of the monkeys drove you away from the site. It would benefit TBP greatly if you commented regularly again.

Montefrío
Montefrío
  Administrator
December 1, 2016 3:01 pm

Well, sir, I greatly appreciate your comment! Never mind that I think the 4th turning stuff is a tad nuts (sorry, but Heidi doesn’t lie!), I have great respect for all you’ve done and do and I’m back because as others have said, this is as good a site as it gets. Prepare yourselves for the onslaught!

Maggie
Maggie
  Unrelated
December 2, 2016 1:11 pm

What “un” said.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Montefrío
December 1, 2016 10:34 am

I miss your contributions, always felt like I got something from them.

Montefrío
Montefrío
  hardscrabble farmer
December 1, 2016 2:01 pm

And thanks to you as well! You’re a bright guy (imho), write well and I enjoy reading your posts.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
  Montefrío
December 1, 2016 9:28 pm

Another monkey returns! Welcome! I’ve been wondering how things were working out for your son. Is Argentina the place where the Bush family bought the rights to the nations aquifer?

I don’t believe a meteor will save us anymore than I believe Trump will but I’m willing to give Trump a chance unless a nice meteor comes along first. 🙂

I harp constantly on ending the fed. Again, I don’t think Trump will even consider it but I’m willing to wait until April 10th or July 19th to see.

Welcome back.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
December 1, 2016 8:00 am

It’s just men.

Anything built by men can be taken apart by men.

It’s the bigger cycles of mankind that you cannot alter and cannot offset.

We’ve lost sight of reality through the incessant use of rhetoric that appeals to the one, but which cannot affect the other.

Ecclesiastes, git you some.

Uncola
Uncola
  hardscrabble farmer
December 1, 2016 9:07 am

Yeah, I suppose looking at the big picture can be like staring at a car wreck at times. Hard to look away.

In the meantime, as I was writing this last night, my wife told me to carry in some groceries from her car and to replace the battery in a smoke detector that has been chirping.

She constantly reminds me to keep my priorities in line.

A wise woman, that one.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
  Uncola
December 1, 2016 10:19 am

Wives have a way of keeping us grounded don’t they? Suzanna called myself and HSF “Smarties” in another thread this week. I told Mrs. Marion that someone on the web thought I was smart. She laughed, and not just a giggle but a full on laugh, then asked me to help unload the dishwasher. Go figure.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Francis Marion
December 1, 2016 10:32 am

My wife is the only one who doesn’t find me funny. Of course that means she is the only person I ever really play to. When she laughs? It’s like angels singing.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, nothing in a man’s life is a greater reward and blessing than finding the right woman and marrying her when you do.

Ouirphuqd
Ouirphuqd
December 1, 2016 8:00 am

Gloom and doom to start off the meteorological winter. It is time to shake all the dead branches out of the trees. My concern is that many people are clueless about what is to happen. The “normalcy bias” has been shown to be very deadly in the past. Most of us on TBP know the importance of self reliance and practice it. It is an early frosty morning here in the Ozark’s, colder weather is forecast, heading to the wood shed for a couple of loads of oak and hickory, sure does smell nice burning!

Stucky
Stucky
December 1, 2016 8:04 am

Uncola wrote;

“Since his election victory, Trump has told the world the Clintons are good people who don’t deserve a special prosecutor; said, as president, he will seek council from President Obama; tweeted he was “very impressed” with David Petraeus for Secretary of State; is currently considering Mitt Romney for Secretary of State; has appointed Steven Mnuchin, a former Goldman Sachs shark, as Treasury Secretary and, apparently, has nothing but the highest regard for neocon warmongers like John Bolton and the Bilderberger Richard Haas, who is also a member of the Council of Foreign Relations.”

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Copied just in case some people don’t read the article. It’s a lovely little paragraph summarizing (I love summaries!!) all the shit being thrown by Trump. (Hope he has good reasons.)

In fact, the whole article is a nice overview of The Great Shitshow which awaits … and all the links are appreciated.

You’re doin’ good Uncola.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Stucky
December 1, 2016 10:12 am

If you consider Trump’s options (or paths) to be:
A) going scorched-earth on the Clintons and the entire uniparty establishment or B) temporizing most of what he’d campaigned on, in either case he’d be acting the same way, saying the same things. If he’s intent on prosecuting Clinton (the best case is for obstruction of justice, IMO – see “Stonetear”), the best strategy would be to lull Obama, the Clintons and the media into complacency. I don’t think we can conclude much from what he’s said or done since the election. I think he’ll pick Giuliani for SoS, and his foreign policy will remain unknowable for the near term. Longer term, I don’t think he wants to tangle with Russia over Middle East shitholes or Baltic shitholes.

As far as the political winds in 2020 and beyond (assuming the system doesn’t collapse before then), a lot will depend on national structural voting changes that should be enacted: requiring a paper trail, perhaps photo ID, making voting by non-citizens cause for immediate deportation, etc.

Stucky
Stucky
  Iska Waran
December 1, 2016 10:38 am

” I don’t think we can conclude much from what he’s said or done since the election.” ——— Iska

Point taken.

I’m trying hard to not jump to conclusions … to give him his 100 days.

But, a proverb keeps running through my mind —- we are known by the company we keep.

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Edit add: What are to to think about Mnuchkin? The more I read about him the more repulsive one becomes. He is the scumiest of scum. Am I to believe, perhaps, that Trump needs scumbags in order to drain the swamp of scumbags? Or some other deep long term strategy.

He couldn’t find a bigger scumfuk without first trying real real hard.

http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/trumps-treasury-secretary-goldman-sachs-blowhard-who-worked-soros/ri17897

james the deplorable wanderer
james the deplorable wanderer
  Stucky
December 1, 2016 1:15 pm

Mnuchin hasn’t been CONFIRMED yet. Neither has anyone else.
This could be one of Scott Adams’ persuasion plays – nominate a Deep State operative, have the Senate tear apart his background (gives Elizabeth Warren something to do and keep her busy, away from the real action) and when he is rejected, nominate who you really wanted in the first place.
As a successful tactician who successfully defeated fifteen Repub rivals, gained the nomination, and defeated the inevitability of the first female president, perhaps Trump has a few more aces up his sleeves.

RiNS
RiNS
  james the deplorable wanderer
December 1, 2016 3:19 pm

Good point James. Sun Zhu would approve of that strategy.

Vic
Vic
  james the deplorable wanderer
December 2, 2016 1:55 am

I hope that’s the reason.

starfcker
starfcker
  Stucky
December 1, 2016 1:39 pm

Stucky, Trump used to point out at his rallies that he knew who the real killers were. He said they weren’t guys who you would want to have dinner with, they weren’t nice people, but if you had them on your side, you would win, because they were the best. Look at munchkins dealings through that lens. Doesn’t look like he took a lot of losses, does it? We need competence. We need winners. They generally aren’t going to be poor, they are going to be guys who are rough. No girly men. Stone cold killers. Now that paricular killer works for us. It could turn out great. We shall see.

Montefrío
Montefrío
  Stucky
December 1, 2016 2:15 pm

I wish I could disagree with you, but I can’t. More and more (although I’d like to believe it’s still too soon to say), I want to get every single buck I’ve got outta there! The thing is, there ain’t no “safe havens” anymore as far as I can see and I don’t believe in gold or other “precious metals”, so I have to go with what I perceive as “productive tangibles” in spite of a gov that fugs us at every turn in a country full of tax-feeders, a gov that was supposed to relieve us of that kind of crap. Be that as it may, I still believe that accessible water is a viable proposition and my son and I have bet the farm (figuratively speaking) on that notion. If we’re wrong, we lose digital wealth, but we ain’t gonna starve!

Stucky
Stucky
December 1, 2016 8:09 am

” … a lame duck United States Congress passed the “Caesar Syria Civilian Protection Act of 2016”

Sure … it’s easy to get it passed WHEN VOTING IS BYPASSED.

Six war-whore representatives took advantage of the lame-duck session and suspended “normal rules”.

The suspension of rules procedure is supposed to be used for “non-controversial” bills such as naming Post Offices.

Good info here —–> http://thefreethoughtproject.com/media-silent-house-passes-no-fly-zone/

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stucky
December 1, 2016 8:55 am

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/5732/text

the bill may have been passed by the House but is not passed by the Senate and will not be signed into law under Obama since there isn’t enough time left to do it.

If the Senate passes it unchanged or if it is sent back to the house for reconciling the changes and passing it again will Trump sign it into law?

Unknown, but it would likely come under a lot of serious public scrutiny in the process and likely be defeated before that happens.

Vic
Vic
  Anonymous
December 2, 2016 1:59 am

But since when does Congress or the prez follow the rules. Obamacare was started in the Senate when the law says it had to start in the House, therefore it’s against the law. Made no difference.

Mark
Mark
December 1, 2016 8:53 am

It was doom and gloom when WW2 ended as well. We were told to expect the worst from the Krugmans of world as defense outlays would be tempered down.

Where will the jobs come from? What would all the returning soldiers do?

The one thing we had then that’s evaporated in almost all major metropolitan areas was cheap land. Something Steve Sailer talks about often. Who would have thunk it? Humans could be subject to the same environmental restraints as all other species.

Without cheap land it’s very hard for the lower rungs to buy into any other aspect of the American Dream and will succumb to communist impulses. Why save when your money won’t buy you anything in the future anyway they ask themselves. This is one of the great fallacies of central planners with regard to immigration.

Wip
Wip
  Mark
December 1, 2016 9:04 am

Pretty good comment.

Vic
Vic
  Mark
December 2, 2016 2:01 am

Something that actually helped the economy after World War II was the fact that government was nearly cut in half and gigantic tax reduction occurred.

fear & loathing
fear & loathing
December 1, 2016 8:59 am

and people ask me why i smoke and drink

BB
BB
December 1, 2016 10:33 am

Thanks Mongolia,who lives in Argentina but it was Indent Service who got me interested in the Central Banking Scam.He wrote post after post warning about this debt monetary system which enslaves this world. Finally I thought let’s see what this knucklehead is really talking about.After reading several different books and hour after hour on the internet I realized this knucklehead is right.The Federal Reserve / Fractional Reserve Banking is the main problem behind all the other problems Americans face.?

Montefrío
Montefrío
  BB
December 1, 2016 2:20 pm

Hi. BB. Check out my blog that I just shit-canned: http://subsidiarityinstitute.blogspot.com.ar/

Make sure to look at the Public Banking blog as well, because as far as I’m concerned, if the USA doesn’t shitcan the Fed and the debt-money system, there’s no hope for the country. It’ll have to be a slow transition, bit if it doesn’t take place, it’s game over.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
  Montefrío
December 2, 2016 9:58 am

Monty,

There is some good stuff on your blog. Just read your Paradise piece. I am going to post it here this morning. You should think about submitting some stuff for TBP. Just remember that STM’s can be critical. Plus Lew Rockwell, Zero hedge and other blogs regularly comb TBP for original pieces and what they like they post. ZH even posts some of our comments as stand alone pieces from time to time.

overthecliff
overthecliff
December 1, 2016 11:17 am

M, now that you are in the water again you must realize it is fine. Quinn has the best site on the net and every kind of opinion is allowed. Stay in the mix. Maybe we will all learn something.

I hope Star is right but I am not optimistic. My fear is that this well written piece is right and Trump will be the Hoover of this Turning. In addition the Purple Revolution may be extremely violent. Being 75 may be a personal blessing.

Montefrío
Montefrío
  overthecliff
December 1, 2016 2:33 pm

Thanks to you too. Yeah, I’ll take up offering my gems of wisdom once more, but I confess to being an old guy with a daughter who took exception to what I perceived as an unnecessarily vulgar comment to a female poster. Maybe it was all in good fun, but to me it lowered the tone of what you correctly consider a top-flight site. I’ve got grandchildren living right next door and far from the USA, but I still have hope that one day they can go to school up there and it’ll be worth their while as well as the money it’ll cost us to send them there. Like you, I’m less than optimistic (I left,after all, just like Loopy). But where there’s life, there’s hope!

Gator
Gator
  Montefrío
December 1, 2016 10:01 pm

I see you over on Porter’s blog all the time, good to see you back here. I’d thought about asking you several times why you don’t stop by, but didn’t want to thread jack about it. Good to see you around again, though.

Suzanna
Suzanna
December 1, 2016 11:29 am

Uncola,
You have written a v thought provoking piece!
My 2 cents:
* Trump on Hillary…it would be unseemly and arrogant and unprofessional
to speak in any vengeful way about the election and even Hill’s crimes. A dish
served cold anyone? Trump can and will nudge the Justice Dept. into
investigations when the time comes. We hope.

* Trump on appointments…It is silly to go ballistic every time a name comes
up that we don’t like. Keep your enemies (or a rep.) close has merit. And,
keep em’ guessing is also a good play. We aren’t in the meetings and we
just don’t know what negotiations are being done.

* Trump on financial collapse…Central bankers, for us, “the Fed” bankers
are busy making $ on the debt of nations. They are an entrenched entity,
and will fight to the death (of others) to keep that status. The last 4 administrations
have paved the way for bankers to get more and be free from any legal consequences
as well. Kennedy wanted to curtail the bankers and got his head blown off in
public for his trouble. I voted Trump because the alternative was untenable.
That, and he promised to curtail immigration of more illiterate welfare cases,
and he said diplomacy was the way to go with Russia.

What choice do we have re Trump but to wait and see? Bankers controlling
our government? Removing them from our picture will be a step wise process.
Maybe we want mass arrests and a dismantling, but that can’t be done
overnight. 1/2 our population of voters didn’t even vote. The 25% that voted for
the Hill. are either ignorant or subversives. Pray and prep.

Suzanna

Stucky
Stucky
December 1, 2016 2:09 pm

Hey, Montefrío. I also think you’re AWESOME!!

I want a fucken’ big THANK YOU as well.

Montefrío
Montefrío
  Stucky
December 1, 2016 2:36 pm

Well, thanks! You’re of course correct and that heartens me., mofo! We’ll be seeing each other once more and I’m looking forward to it!

Stucky
Stucky
  Montefrío
December 1, 2016 2:42 pm

Very cool.

Just forbid your daughter from reading my posts. Really. I know I have a potty mouth. For better, or worse, that ain’t gonna change.

Montefrío
Montefrío
  Stucky
December 1, 2016 3:17 pm

Wasn’t you: it was Dutch telling Stephanie S or Clammi or whoever that she could earn a living “on her back”. I don’t consider myself prissy, but that was a bridge too far as far as I was concerned. What convinced me I was in the wrong place was a comment by Loopy, a pompous white-trash wannabe whose business success I applaud but whose pretentiousness makes me laugh. You want a pretentious white boy with creds around here, like it or not, I qualify, as you well know. That said, in spite of my impeccable creds, I’m a Dirt People guy puro y duro now. Come on down, y’all: I’ve got some great plums and apricots ripening, never mind the peppers, beets, carrots, tomatoes and such. Geezer life’s great!

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Montefrío
December 3, 2016 10:32 pm

Dutchman is an acquired taste. I didn’t care much for his comments but then one day, I found out he’s human, with real life problems. Not everybody has good comic timing, my own jokes fall flat on a regular basis. He’s not that bad for a pretentious white boy with creds.

Loopy gave me a hard time but for some reason, I admire him. Like Gunnery Sergeant Hartman, he is hard but fair. Since you are well past the age, you do not appreciate his handling of TBP recruits but if not for him, this place would not be the quality site you are praising to admin. His insistence on integrity, honor and honesty is the key to understanding The Pretentious One as his Native American name is translated.

I’d suggest you get a handle on the house rules. Otherwise, you will not enjoy your stay.

https://youtu.be/rrf0cH4o_g4

Stucky
Stucky
December 1, 2016 2:16 pm

“Doesn’t look like he took a lot of losses, does it? We need competence. We need winners. ” ——– starfcker

That piece of shit was CEO of One West, formerly IndyMac … who used Robo-Signers to foreclose up to 6,000 homes per day without due process for those being foreclosed.

You call this “competence”? I call it Morally Bereft Evil. You say he’s a “winner”. At what cost? You can keep your winner, who I hope burns in torment in hell forever.

starfcker
starfcker
  Stucky
December 1, 2016 3:30 pm

Didn’t say that, Stuck. We don’t need nice pussies looking out for our country. We need killers. I hope munchkin is just as nasty as you think he is, and I hope he puts that skill set to good use. Who would you rather have, rand paul, he would get rolled on day one, no tactical skills, and soft as a babies ass. No thanks. I want killers.

Stucky
Stucky
  starfcker
December 1, 2016 3:53 pm

You seem to be fixated on “killers”.

OK, let’s go with that. How about someone who is like Pol Pot, or Stalin, or Hitler? Which do you like best?

It’s a serious question. Just trying to determine where you would draw the line …. or, whether you would draw a line at all.

starfcker
starfcker
  Stucky
December 1, 2016 4:32 pm

Thd point i’m trying to make, Stuck, is that we, the taxpayer, the citizen, have had rollover artists representing our interests for a long time. Watch the little Cenk Ugar video I put up on the shedlock thread. Ugar hates Trump. But he’s dying for results. So am I. You’re in the weeds on the foreclosure thing. What did you think was going to happen when mortgage teaser rates reset? For debts to be repaid, you need stable and adequate income streams. That didn’t exist. You may not approve of how those foreclosures happened, but it damn sure was going to happen, because those debts were unpayable. Calm down. Trust the guy knows what he is doing. Let’s see how you feel next summer.

Gator
Gator
  starfcker
December 1, 2016 10:07 pm

I just can’t wrap my head around why you think these ‘killers’ and tough guys are going to be on your side and not on Goldman et al’s side in all of this. Why do you think that tiger is going to change his stripes? Why does trump think he will? Im all for second chances, but this gy doesn’t seem to be looking for a second chance, he just appears to be looking to progress his long career of malfescence into govt service. You sound like a lemming putting this much trust into him. Ill will eat crow with a big fucking smile on my face if you end up being right by next summer.

This financial system is getting increasingly unstable. I fail to see what trump, munchkin, or anyone else has up their sleeve that can fix the underlying problem. Until its fixed, preventing an air conditioning company and others like it to quit moving the jobs to mexico ain’t gonna do shit.

starfcker
starfcker
  Gator
December 1, 2016 11:07 pm

Gator, I am taking your questions seriously. I have a different understanding of economics and I’m assuming a quite different assumption of “the underlying problem.” I have no idea what you think the underlying problem is. Your comment assumes that we agree on this. Lay it out, and I’ll be happy to take a swing at it. I’m not idealogical. I’m not libertarian. I don’t reflexively hate government. I’m not afraid of things I don’t understand. If you can lay out specific concerns, I’ll do my best. Example. Munchkin is a scumbag. Maybe. All I know about him comes from the Trump/America hating press. Trump knows him. Trump has been in business with him. Trump has sued him. Trump put him in charge of his campaign finances. That went really really well, didn’t it? So I don’t need to have an opinion of him. That’s Trump’s job.

Gator
Gator
  starfcker
December 2, 2016 12:30 am

Fair enough. Im not trying to troll you or just talk shit, for whats its worth. I believe that we have built a house of cards that rests on debt. It works right now because we are able to trade electronic units of debt(the US dollar) for ships full of real goods and materials. There is also a huge demand for dollars around the world, because it remains the worlds reserve currency. We have borrowed so much from the future to fund today that we are running up against a wall. We can only borrow so much, there is a limit. What that limit is, I don’t pretend to know, but I do believe it is fast approaching. Same with interest rates. We have pushed them down to the bottom and held them there for years, and we have no way out. We can’t raise them to anything resembling normalcy because it would bring the whole thing crashing down. The stock market, bond market, and real estate markets would all come crashing down. It would also bring back trillion dollar deficits as far as the eye can see. My main point, question for you is in what way can trump, or anyone else for that matter, fix this? People like mnuchin have been a huge part of that problem. Bringing him and others like him who had a big hand in the 2008-9 debacle don’t seem like the best people to fix it. Sealing the border and ceasing to import the entire third world is all well and good. I hope he does that, and ending perpetual warfare are both big parts of why I voted for him. He is also a lot less likely to start nuclear war with Russia, which is why, despite my bitching, I don’t regret voting for him. But if he doesn’t fix the problem I described above, we are swirling down the shitter regardless.

LetsPlay
LetsPlay
  Gator
December 3, 2016 12:15 pm

Gator, I think the answer to your anxiety is the statement about “the financial system is getting increasingly unstable.”

When I think of a problem, I want the best people who know that specialty to deal in solving the problem. We all know that the global financial debt bomb is about to implode on all fronts. So, while I am not feeling good about having the likes of “Goldman Sachs” in the Administration, I have to allow that while they, Morgan Stanley, etc. have had a hand in creating and abusing the system, we are all in for a shit-storm when this thing blows. But being global, there are many players at all levels and these are, I think, the best to try to fix or at least buy time to give solutions time to work. It’s a lot to hope for but isn’t that what voting for Trump was about … trying to turn this muther around?

James
James
  Stucky
December 1, 2016 4:51 pm

Well,personally,am more a Genghis kind of guy.Sure the folks you mentioned might have higher numbers but they had modern day tech,made the” cleansing” acts a lot less time/energy consuming !

That said,democide is democide,they are all great in my book!

eD_209
eD_209
  Stucky
December 1, 2016 7:21 pm

I have to agree with Stucky here. And what about the others Guliani is a 911 criminal.
Romney is responsible for offshoring jobs via Bain Capital. I do not know wtf Trump is
doing, but as Michael Savage says we are 1000 times better off with Trump over Clinton.
Time will tell I pray for Trump daily.

Vodka
Vodka
December 1, 2016 2:28 pm

The threat of freezing/seizing assets of any entity that takes actions deemed detrimental to U.S. interests or it’s prosperity would likely get the attention of anyone with ideas of making Trump into Hoover II. Asset forfeiture is the Achilles Heel of the Rothschilds, Soros’, Rockefellers, et al. And they know it. They also know that Trump will be vain enough to do it if he perceives a Hoover legacy might be in the making.

At any rate, Trump is only a respite at best. A pause or slow-down we can all use to better position ourselves for the inevitable chaos that’s coming. I supported Trump from the start and never expected anything more than a reduction in the Titanic’s speed. Anything more is a bonus.

MN Steel
MN Steel
  Vodka
December 1, 2016 10:20 pm

And here I thought voting for Ron Paul 8 years ago would be just getting a pilot that would pull up from the nosedive instead of pushing the throttle to the stops…

Well, at least it can’t be said that voting for the pilot didn’t lead straight to the scene of the crash.

Stucky
Stucky
December 1, 2016 3:23 pm

“What convinced me I was in the wrong place was a comment by Loopy, a pompous white-trash wannabe whose business success I applaud but whose pretentiousness makes me laugh.”
——– poster’s name withheld for safety reasons

Oh, shit. Oh Boy. Ho Lee Fuk.

Things might get interesting later this evening, folks!

I’m sittin’ it out, but I will bring popcorn.

RiNS
RiNS
  Stucky
December 1, 2016 3:55 pm

the so un-named might end up only dropping by. Turn out like Capt Pike.

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Started out looking good at casting call.

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Ended looking like a horse rode hard and put away wet.

I’m getting popcorn for this…

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
  Stucky
December 1, 2016 7:46 pm

Montefrio- So glad to see ya !!

Curious what your true opinion may be of the new president-elect?

Stucky
Stucky
December 1, 2016 5:44 pm

“You’re in the weeds on the foreclosure thing. What did you think was going to happen when mortgage teaser rates reset? ”
——— starfcker

I’m not talking about the details. If a person fucked up and they need to be foreclosed, than so be it!

I’m talking about DUE PROCESS. Even a murderer gets his day in court. Or, are you so hell-bent on setting things right that you’re willing to support lawbreakers … a classic case of the ends justifying the means.

Perhaps you need to reacquaint yourself with what IndyMac did. They. Commited. Fraud. On a massive scale. All approved by Mnuchkin.

here —- https://mariokenny.me/2014/06/23/complete-guide-to-robo-signers/

You are turning your head so far the other way, I’m afraid it’s about to twist off. The lengths that you are going to justify the potential nomination approval of such a low-life scumfuk snake just about leaves me speechless.

I’ll ask again. Do you draw the line at anything?

starfcker
starfcker
  Stucky
December 1, 2016 7:06 pm

You ask good questions Stuck. Good enough that I’m having a hard time coming up with answers. So, let me cop out, and say this. We need Trump to succeed. We need Trump to do what he says he is going to do. I can’t expect that any of that can be done if you or I have to approve. Munchkin probably is as evil as you say. This might be that ugly of a job. I don’t have any other insight.

Stucky
Stucky
  starfcker
December 1, 2016 7:35 pm

“We need Trump to succeed. We need Trump to do what he says he is going to do.” ——— starfcker

Bravo! I couldn’t have said it better myself.

Amazing what can happen … when two reasonable people come to a reasonable conclusion. Next, we conquer Azerbaijan!!!

starfcker
starfcker
  Stucky
December 1, 2016 10:50 pm
Westcoaster
Westcoaster
December 1, 2016 6:13 pm

Purple People Eater

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
December 1, 2016 8:02 pm

Uncola- Nice job.

I am keeping my screeching to a minimum at Admin’s request……..I figure you know that I am on the same page.

starfcker
starfcker
  Bea Lever
December 1, 2016 8:39 pm
Bea Lever
Bea Lever
  starfcker
December 1, 2016 9:48 pm

Payback is a bitch Star……

Wait til you meet my angry Dobie pup named Zeus.

starfcker
starfcker
  Bea Lever
December 1, 2016 10:54 pm

I have noone to blame but myself. I’m sure you will pick your moment, and it will be funny as hell. What have I done?

nkit
nkit
  Bea Lever
December 3, 2016 1:50 pm

Dobie? I thought you had Yorkies?

Stucky
Stucky
December 1, 2016 11:17 pm

“So I don’t need to have an opinion of him. That’s Trump’s job.”
———- starfcker

Jeebus H Krist! Let’s not give Trump carte blanche!

Trump said it, I believe it, that settles it! Like that?

Don’t sell yourself short. You certainly have the right to have an opinion about a cabinet pick. On a BLOG you almost have a DUTY to do so.

Homer
Homer
December 3, 2016 1:31 pm

I just read this post and comments and was somewhat surprised. I have avoided reading it because it just didn’t appeal to me, it didn’t hook me in. But…I must say that the comments have been the most intelligent that I have ever read in a single post.

What I like about this site is that it isn’t a round table where everyone is venting their opinion all at once in a cacophony like you see on Fox news. It’s sequential, you have to listen to the earlier comments before you respond with your own. In other word, you have to suspend your mouth and engage your brain before stating your idea. Words are like that, speech is an entirely different animal. Thanx–Admin for your site.

Stubb
Stubb
  Homer
December 3, 2016 1:45 pm

I do that too sometimes where I blow off a post for a day or two and then out of boredom open it up and find a whole new world I was missing. Then I ask myself “why did I wait so long”? When it comes to this website I have found it pays to leave no stone unturned.

MN Steel
MN Steel
December 3, 2016 9:49 pm

I guess my question is why anyone would want the hairpiece to save this system, killers-in-cabinet or not.

Every damn thing happening is by hook AND crook, with the Crooks using armed thugs as a Hook to steal everything productive people create.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying it’ll be all sunshine-and-rainbows getting through the decades of bullshit built up around the whole system like a berm around a moat around the crystal city around the ivory towers that the true alligators eating our substance live in, just to start making a sane life actually worth living, but it has to start.

Anything else is just marking time until the next royal fucking.