In Part One of this article I discussed the failure of our brains to think rationally due to our biases and the relentless propaganda flogged by our Deep State ruling class. Viewing the future through the looking glass of the Fourth Turning keeps you focused on the three catalysts which will drive all events in 2017 and beyond. I’ve addressed my 2017 Debt forecast in Part One. Now I will make some guesses about what might happen in 2017 related to Civic Decay and Global Disorder.
Civic Decay Forecast
“Our comforting conviction that the world makes sense rests on a secure foundation: our almost unlimited ability to ignore our ignorance.” – Daniel Kahneman, Thinking, Fast and Slow
The presidential election and its aftermath tell you everything you need to know about the level of civic decay overtaking this country. The country is as divided as it was after the election of Abraham Lincoln in 1860. There is virtually no common ground between liberals and conservatives. The pure hatred and contempt between the winners and losers in the recent election does not bode well for the country over the next four to eight years.
The social fabric of the country has been torn asunder. The Clinton supporters believe anyone not on their side is deplorable, racist, misogynist, and fans of Hitler. Trump supporters believe anyone not on their side is low IQ, Muslim loving, deceitful, math challenged, and fans of a criminal. The gulf between the two sides is unbridgeable.
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Barack Obama, the well-dressed, polished, articulate, empty suit, who has occupied the White House for the last eight years serving as the front man for the Deep State, has done more to destroy race relations and sense of community than any president in history. His divisive rhetoric and actions over the last eight years created the atmosphere for the acrimonious election and the violent protests that followed.
His failure to quell the Soros funded Black Lives Matter terrorist organization has resulted in the slaughter of police across the country. Meanwhile, his hometown of Chicago has seen 800 homicides and over 4,400 shootings in 2016 – with over 90% blacks killing blacks. His legacy is one of complete and utter failure, but his hubris knows no bounds, and he actually believes his eight year reign of error was a resounding success. Facts be damned.
“A person who has not made peace with his losses is likely to accept gambles that would be unacceptable to him otherwise.” – Daniel Kahneman, Thinking, Fast and Slow
Obama fears his legacy will go up in flames. When you govern through executive orders, bypassing Congress, and flaunting the Constitution, your actions can be overturned with the stroke of a pen. When your crowning achievement – Obamacare – is derided by virtually everyone in the country as an epic failure and will be repealed and replaced in short order, you realize your entire presidency was a sham and a national disgrace.
Obama is flailing about in his final weeks desperately trying to keep the attention focused upon him. He is gambling with the lives of his countrymen by doing everything in his power to provoke World War III with Russia and to inflame the Middle East with his UN engineered snub of Israel. Obama doesn’t like to lose and he is acting like a churlish spoiled brat as his time runs out. He has become a laughingstock around the world. He will fan the flames of discontent in this country until he is ushered out of the White House.
Here are a few suppositions about what will happen next:
- Obama trying to sow discord between the U.S. and Russia will fail, as Trump and Putin will meet and find common ground in the Middle East, the Ukraine, and Turkey. Republican neo-cons like McCain and Graham will be outraged. Liberal warmongers who once protested Bush’s wars will also be outraged. The mainstream media will continue to try and fan the flames of war.
- Before leaving office Obama will poke a final stick in the eye of Trump and his supporters by pardoning Hillary Clinton for all possible wrongdoing. This will infuriate the right. Trump will do everything in his power to investigate the Clinton foundation and any issues which could incriminate Bill, Holder, Lynch or Obama. The peaceful transition of power has not been observed by the left, so all bets are off once Trump takes office.
- Well-funded (by Soros) domestic agitators, including BLM and various femi-nazi groups, will attempt to disrupt the inauguration ceremonies. There will be violence, conflicts with Trump supporters, and police confrontations. This will further widen the divide in this country. The left have proven to be those who promote violence and will continue to do so. If they venture outside of their urban safe zones, they will be met with a white heavily armed populace.
- The left wing mainstream media will not be deterred in their efforts to bring down the Trump presidency. They will fire away on a daily basis as their ratings drop lower and lower. Their railing against “fake news” has backfired, driving more people to alternative media sites where they will not be inundated with Deep State approved propaganda. The press will do their utmost to agitate the masses, creating and promoting conflict. Trump will continue to bypass and scorn the media outlets by taking his message directly to the people.
- Building the wall, shutting off the immigration pipeline of Muslim refugees, defunding sanctuary cities, and fully supporting local police across the country will trigger snowflakes, BLM terrorists, illegal immigrants, and various Soros funded radical groups to stage violent protests in the liberal urban enclaves. They are waiting for their next high profile police shooting to pounce. The civil chaos and violent protests will increase as the year progresses.
- Whoever Trump nominates as his Supreme Court justice will face enormous scrutiny. The left wing media will stop at nothing to destroy the nominee. The hearings in Congress will be nasty, rude, and vitriolic. The animosity between the opposing sides will reach epic proportions. Both sides know the Supreme Court is of vital importance to the future course of the country.
- With Obama failing to fade into the sunset and his enormous ego and arrogance spurring him to agitate the left wingers, there will be no de-intensifying of the rhetoric between the right and the left. As we’ve seen, the left are the proponents of violence as their chief weapon. An attempt on the life of Trump is a distinct possibility in his first year in office. A successful or unsuccessful attempt would have far reaching consequences that could lead to civil chaos.
Global Disorder Forecast
“We focus on our goal, anchor on our plan, and neglect relevant base rates, exposing ourselves to the planning fallacy. We focus on what we want to do and can do, neglecting the plans and skills of others. Both in explaining the past and in predicting the future, we focus on the causal role of skill and neglect the role of luck. We are therefore prone to an illusion of control. We focus on what we know and neglect what we do not know, which makes us overly confident in our beliefs.” – Daniel Kahneman, Thinking, Fast and Slow
The level of global disorder hasn’t been this high since the 1930s. There are dozens of potential flash points capable of producing a cascading crisis which could blow up the world. The highly touted establishment mantra of globalization has produced an interconnected web of trillions in global debt, with one quadrillion dollars of indecipherable derivatives layered on top, all dependent upon the sustenance of insolvent mega-banks and bankrupt nation states. The only thing keeping this global Ponzi scheme alive is the unfounded belief in the brilliance of central bankers and corrupt politicians.
The detonator for these interwoven financial weapons of mass destruction is rising global interest rates. The global financial system will be blown sky high by a sustained high volume sovereign bond selloff. The bond market is always the canary in the coal mine. Bonds will sell-off before stocks and real estate. Bond markets have begun to sell-off in a relatively orderly manner over the last three months, with long term Treasuries falling 13%. Bill Gross recently described the growing risk:
“Global yields lowest in 500 years of recorded history. $10 trillion of neg. rate bonds. This is a supernova that will explode one day.”
Will that day happen in 2017? No one knows for sure, but the probability is much higher than biased “experts” believe. The substantial concentration of cognitive biases clouding the judgement of the supposed wise men ruling the world has blinded them to the tragic consequences of what happens when the mother of all bubbles explodes like a supernova.
The complacency of those in charge and the trusting masses will eventually be dealt a death blow when the high frequency trading computers run amuck and wipe out trillions of faux paper wealth in a matter of minutes. The powers that be will declare no one could have seen it coming, when in actuality anyone with a basic understanding of math could have seen it coming from a mile away. Most have chosen to remain blind to reality, because dealing with it is too painful to consider.
“We can be blind to the obvious, and we are also blind to our blindness.” – Daniel Kahneman, Thinking, Fast and Slow
Let’s get to a few prognostications regarding global events in 2017:
- Obama, in a despicable act of trying to fence Trump in, has introduced further sanctions against Russia and Putin based upon no solid evidence other than the opinions of the same people who were sure there were WMD in Iraq. The MSM and the neo-con faction of his party are all on Obama’s side. I expect Trump to override Obama’s childish display of antagonism, while showing the neo-cons there is a new sheriff in town, by developing a working relationship with Putin and lowering the tensions between the two countries.
- Trump and Putin will come to an agreement regarding keeping Assad in power in Syria while turning both nations’ attention to obliterating ISIS and the so called “moderate” Al Qaeda terrorists in the Middle East. General Mattis and Trump’s team of rational thinkers will develop a feasible plan to destroy ISIS once and for all. Safe zones will jointly be created in Syria and Iraq by the U.S. and Russia to stem the tide of refugees pouring into the EU and U.S.
- The U.S. dependency on Saudi oil will continue to decrease, further reducing their influence on U.S. policy in the Middle East. Saudi failure in Syria, Yemen and keeping Iran contained will lead to further discontent in the kingdom. Financial woes, declining oil output and religious tensions will fray the fabric of their insular society and lead to a religious uprising and civil war.
- Turkey has been pushed into the Russian sphere of influence by U.S. meddling. The country is falling apart. A civil war on par with the Syrian conflict is likely to breakout. Russia would likely support the dictator Erdogan against rebel forces supported by NATO. Religious and sectarian violence will tear the country apart and create further tensions between Russia and the U.S.
- Israel will pre-emptively take action either covertly or overtly to damage the Iranian nuclear program without informing the U.S. of its actions in advance. This will be supported by the neo-con factions in the U.S. government, but will strain relations between Netanyahu and Trump.
- The crackpot efforts at demonetization by Modi in India will destroy the Indian economy and cause societal upheaval among his 1.25 billion mostly poor citizens. With the eighth largest economy on the planet imploding, the economic reverberations across Southeast Asia will be enormous, possibly being the trigger for the next step down in this ongoing global recession. India’s weakness could spur their enemy Pakistan to take aggressive border actions which could lead to military conflict.
- With the fourth largest economy in the world in near permanent recession for the last twenty years, Japan’s debt to GDP ratio of 230% portends financial collapse. In the midst of a demographic implosion, with negative interest rates, and a central bank buying all the newly issued debt and billions in stocks, Japan is a bug seeking a windshield. When this Ponzi economy crashes, the worldwide impact will be significant. If Japan doesn’t trigger the global eruption, it will be a major contributor as the detonation spreads around the world.
- China continues to steadily devalue the yuan against the USD and has eliminated all the gains since 2010. At the same time they have reduced their foreign reserves by over 20% since mid-2014. China’s third largest economy in the world is slowing rapidly as more bad debt builds up in their system. They have a real estate bubble that makes the U.S. bubble seem like a pimple on the ass of a fly. A trade war initiated by Donald Trump would be the pin bursting the Chinese debt bubble. The situation could intensify into a bond selloff and panic. If derivative positions of over-leveraged or poorly-hedged globally systemic banks begin to unravel, cascading losses could lead to a vicious cycle and a tragic outcome.
- Potential military conflict between China and Japan/U.S. over the islands in the South China Sea ramps up by the day. No one wants a war, but all it would take is a careless stupid act by a low level military officer to create a crisis. China is already bent out of shape by Trump acknowledging the existence of Taiwan. China is still essentially a dictatorship. The country is racked by corruption. An economic collapse could be met with distracting the public through a military adventure against Taiwan. These scenarios are unlikely in 2017, but not out of the question.
- The most likely and potentially most dire event which could affect the world in 2017 is the disintegration of the EU. Greece is still a basket case. Italy is on the brink. The EU area economy barely registers positive after years of negative interest rates and debt issuance. Unemployment rates, excluding Germany, range between 10% and 25%. Brexit and Trump’s victory portend a further shift to the right in the EU. The right wing party will win the French presidency. Merkel will be defeated in the upcoming elections. France and Italy are likely to have a referendum on leaving the EU. The departure of either will end the failed experiment. The insolvent Italian, French and German banks, specifically Deutsche Bank, will collapse in an EU disintegration scenario.
- The influx of Muslims into Europe is destroying their culture and leading to violence, terrorism, bloodshed, and now retribution. The left wingers have made a dreadful mistake in allowing hordes of Muslims to invade their countries. Their already fraying social welfare states are now completely bankrupt and citizens are afraid to go into the streets for fear of being attacked by members of the religion of peace. With the right gaining power in France, Germany and Italy, the blowback against Muslims will be violent and bloody. European cities will be rocked with violence throughout 2017.
“Confidence is a feeling, which reflects the coherence of the information and the cognitive ease of processing it. It is wise to take admissions of uncertainty seriously, but declarations of high confidence mainly tell you that an individual has constructed a coherent story in his mind, not necessarily that the story is true.” – Daniel Kahneman, Thinking, Fast and Slow
I think it is pretty obvious my pessimism bias may have skewed my predictions for 2017. I’ve been pessimistic for the last eight years and the stock market is up 200%. I try to assess the world from a logical fact based frame of mind, but for the last eight years the world has been kept afloat by a combination of debt, delusions and denial.
The Deep State propaganda machine has convinced the masses we are living in normal times, despite the fact the Fed printed $3.5 trillion out of thin air and handed it to the criminal Wall Street banks, interest rates have been kept at or near zero for eight years, revelations from Snowden that we truly live in a surveillance state far exceeding Orwell’s dystopian vision, the national debt doubling to $20 trillion, proof that all financial markets are rigged, undeclared wars being waged across the globe, and a reality TV star defeating a criminal to be president of the United States. Sounds pretty normal to me.
My confidence level in my predictions is quite low. But, if one or two of the low probability events comes to fruition, the financial and/or human devastation will make 2008 look like a walk in the park. I don’t have an agenda in putting forth these predictions. I’m not selling anything or hawking stocks, bonds, or gold. I don’t tout myself as an expert like the over-confident, arrogant pricks on CNBC, CNN, MSNBC, or FOX. I’m just trying to understand what is happening in this crazy universe. We live in an uncertain world. I believe an unbiased appreciation of uncertainty is the cornerstone of rationality and reason. Not acknowledging the role of luck or chance in the course of human events is setting you up for a fall.
Our countries, central banks, financial complex, military industrial complex, sick care complex, global mega-corporations, and government bureaucracies are ruled by men whose hubris, arrogance, greed and hunger for power has warped our world, producing unfathomable ill-gotten profits for the financial class who can abuse justice with impunity while the average man is bullied, pillaged and abused with disregard.
These well dressed, highly educated, sophisticated, soulless barbarians hide their evil deeds behind the trappings of culture, but they are revealed by their grotesque schemes, murderous policies, and war profits soaked in blood. When they lose control of this global Ponzi scheme, I hope they pay the ultimate price for their traitorous deeds. Will it happen in 2017? I don’t know. But it will happen before this Fourth Turning climaxes.
“The risk of catastrophe will be very high. The nation could erupt into insurrection or civil violence, crack up geographically, or succumb to authoritarian rule. If there is a war, it is likely to be one of maximum risk and effort – in other words, a total war. Every Fourth Turning has registered an upward ratchet in the technology of destruction, and in mankind’s willingness to use it.” – Strauss & Howe – The Fourth Turning
i will have to read part II after a good night’s rest, still recovering from part I. the entrepreneurs of the future may well make buggy whips.
Actually, bomb shelters are a better bet over the short term.
so buy gold?
“Obama trying to sow discord between the U.S. and Russia will fail, as Trump and Putin will meet and find common ground in the Middle East, the Ukraine, and Turkey. Republican neo-cons like McCain and Graham will be outraged.”
Is there ever a time McCain and Miz Lindsey aren’t outraged? Every photo and video of them shows them sitting close, holding hands, whispering sweet nothings into each others ears, giggling softly together. With gay marriage now legal the two of them no longer need to go through life being outraged.
McCain and Miz Lindsey are beyond their sexual expiration dates.
And, don’t the majority of us cringe at their images? Perhaps they
are emblematic of the majority of our Senators and Representatives.
Mostly obsolete. The crimes are in plain view, their partisanship
obvious, and actually many of them creep us out.
Further, if we learn they are using stolen children for blood transfusions,
they must hang. A little research/extrapolation will reveal this is the
true underlying scandal. It is not the eating of “cakes” in human form.
“But it will happen before this Fourth Turning climaxes.”- when is the climax supposed to be?
Sometime around 2025.
Right around the end of Trump’s second term. It occurred to me yesterday after reading your first piece that even if a Trump presidency goes swimmingly for this duration (not saying it will) that by then the political pendulum is likely to come swinging back rather harshly the other direction leading to one hell of a climax. Can you imagine the left back in power after two terms of Trump? And we think they are angry, authoritarian and violent now….
Ya. It is pretty hard to imagine. Well, actually its not that hard to imagine. It would be ugly, nasty, vindictive. It will probably happen, though.
Should Trump start reversing / obliterating Obama’s “legacy” of hate, division and cronyism, the Left will explode in riots – which would be nasty, short and brutish. If, after a successful Trump promoting growth, recovery and renewal for eight years, the Left tried the same – the Right would simply explode – sending the Left upwards ballistically, with a similar ballistic descent.
Trying restore ObamaDontCare, BLM, Federal overreach, and so forth after we are freed from them – it wouldn’t last long.
I hope you are wrong Francis…
It is my fervent belief various key movers/actors will be died off.
How can I help?
Strictly refute hate and evil without begrudging ones own comfort, promote humanistic values, make efforts for the peace and happiness of self and others. A human revolution in one individual can impact the greater society.
Ian, I hope that you mean “humanitarian” values, rather than “humanistic” values. The latter are the bedrock beliefs of the Marxist far left globalists who have been so contrary to individual freedom, peace, and truth.
Yea Ron,
I mean being human, starting with those things we can gain an ability to control, first ourselves. Such ideas are about personal emancipation and empowerment, a true happiness, and projecting that outwards despite knowing that obstacles and devilish functions will surely arise to dissuade us, even persecute our success. It’s not about some external Orwellian or authoritarian concept of correctness, but rather seeking to actuate the inherent goodness that lies deep within. I believe success requires developing a personal belief system and a Practice that encompasses Compassion. It also requires hard work, courage, and wisdom to change the poisonous aspects of our hellishness, destructive anger, hungry desires, and animal behaviors into medicine. Doing so in oneself enables one to bring some degree of peace and happiness to one’s surroundings. Then after awhile we will get actual proof that we are reaching out to help others become happy (what goes around comes back to us). Having achieved true happiness, it can never be taken away, and the fear of being effected by pending 4T events will also melt away. These are Japanese Buddhist concepts based on Nicherin’s teaching of the 12 century, and also practiced around the USA today.
The idea is to win the ideology war and move further to the right but not to far. Their is room for conservative ideology to win the war and Pence win for another eight years of beating down tyranny.
War should begin around 2021, following 1781, 1861, 1941. We have a war of national survival about every 80 years. Now would be an ideal time to buy a retreat in isolated places such as northern Maine, Michigan’s Upper Peninsuela, or the Arrowhead region of Minnesota. All of these are far from ‘Hillary Voters’ and the snowflakes who feel entitled to your food, shelter, medical supplies, and so on.
Could you also suggest somewhere to “buy a retreat in an isolated place” that will not be covered in several feet of snow and below zero temp for 1/3rd of the year?–this is a serious query.
Try Texas. Go west of I-35.
I’ll check it out–thanks.
I live on a peninsula and in a deeply red county but within a hours drive of 2 high population, liberal bastions. We could literally ” blow the bridge” and isolate ourselves except for by boat. The downside is being directly east of a primary target for nuclear strike and also our county has nuclear reactors for power.
Such a shame, we have great soil, great neighbors, land, local beef, dairy, eggs, agriculture, fruit, berries etc—and I think we could curb an influx of city refugees…the intangibles suck though.
hoard soap
And salt. Can’t live without it.
Davis Mountains in West Texas.
https://www.google.com/search?q=davis+mountains&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS706US706&espv=2&biw=1280&bih=593&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjar-L8oKbRAhVHzoMKHanCDocQ_AUIBygC#imgdii=UFiHeIxY2gKAeM%3A%3BUFiHeIxY2gKAeM%3A%3B90Y8Z7Mvr8DWzM%3A&imgrc=UFiHeIxY2gKAeM%3A
How isolated ? Do you assume that gasoline keeps on flowing so the looters can travel ? Do you assume that diesel keeps on flowing so the cities can eat ? With no food in and no cars out the big cities become more intersted in surviving a seige rather than allowing looters to commute back home with stolen jewelry or DVD players.
i live in a valley 260 miles north of LA–1 hiway in from the south, easily blocked by a couple of semi trucks-2 from the north,also easily blocked,the largest mountains in the lower 48 guard the east ,west–the weather is perfect,the snow is in the mountains!–lots of water,cows,everybody has gardens-town of 3500 nice people–guns in every home–bishop,ca..there are no jobs like most of cali–
That is where the snowflakes will not go. It takes some effort to survive.
For an interesting look at this subject, check out Joel Skousen’s book, Strategic Relocation. I purchased this several years ago on the recommendation of a family member who has already made his move. I’m a year or 2 away from making the move myself, but this book has been very helpful.
Smarties will do this ahead of time.
Smarties have already done this.
If Maine, the UP and Minnefridge are my only options, I’ll fight it out on the streets of West Philly.
I think right wingers heavily-armed with AR-15s will likely be more of a problem.
I don’t consider myself heavily armed with an AR-15. AR-10 maybe. Any problems that those on the fringe might have with others will resolve themselves through ballistic or pyrotechnic means, in short order.
After the initial purge, it’s just a matter of survival.
They will be the solution.
Heavily armed right wingers will likely be more of a problem……..for whom?
Eh,with so much hat can go wrong,yes,there will be changes,anything short of all out nuclear war/planet killing asteroid(how did asteroid do in election polling?)we and other countries will arise from the ashes of our self immolation like the mighty phoenix.
We ill do this no longer encumbered by the imf’/fed reserves/central banks ect. and will if it even still exists be doe with the UN.
There will be a lot of loss when this happens but seems inevitable,do believe longer term the world will be better off though.
Cool stuff, Admin. Re the Supreme Court nominee, I expect little opposition to get the person confirmed. The left will squeal, but the Repubs will be too happy to cause much of a delay.
It takes 60 votes to confirm a Supreme Court nominee. That means all of the Republicans and 8 Democrats will have to vote in favor. It’s going to be a hard row and I already feel sorry for the nominee who may not realize just how much the Dems and the MSM are prepared to ruin his life and smear his reputation.
Trickleup – you are incorrect. It takes a simple majority to confirm. However, it does take sixty votes to break a fillibuster.
It takes a simple majority vote to end the fillibuster rules – known as the “nuclear option”. Neither party wants to go there. If the Dems play hardball on getting the 60 votes to break the fillibuster, then the nuclear option will be implemented, I suspect.
There will be 33 senate seats up for grabs in 2018, 23D, 8R, 2I, Trump will get whatever he wants for the next 2 yrs, check out some of those red states these D have to compete in. Trump has broken all the rules and will steamroll these people just like he did on the campaign trail. Good or bad Trump calls all the shots right now.
I’m 100% behind himand will be hounding my Reps to do so.
trick is to choose someone without a file, and someone who never placed
a pubic hair on some woman’s can of soda. btw, the hair fell off her head.
Trickle — I find your disparagement of Democrats trying to block a Trump nominee for the USSC sometime in the future — even before a candidate has been proposed — highly amusing given that the Republicans blocked any and all Obama nominees for nearly the entire last year of his administration.
Please do as I have done. I’ve asked my Senators both GOP, to fear not the fillibuster, and advise their Democratic colleagues to bring cots to the cloak room.
Fillibusters no longer are actual, but rather imaginary. No cots are required. The Dems say “we fillibuster” and that is that. 60 votes required to end fillibuster, unless the nuclear option is brought in. Repubs fear the nuclear option, because it means if Dems get power, then the fillibuster option of blockade is gone for good.
Strauss & Howe claim the Catalysts for Fourth Turnings occur from that which we might have predicted. In other words, the Catalyst usually derives from something currently in place during the previous Turnings.
I remember reading Tom Clancy’s book “Executive Order’s” (early to mid 1990’s) about a plane crashing into the Capitol building in D.C. and causing a stock market crash. Also around the same time in the early 1990s, the movie “True Lies” came out where Arnold Schwarzenegger was a spy held captive by Islamic Terrorists in possession of nuclear weapons called the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse (or similar).
I often wonder if 911 was not the actual catalyst of this Fourth Turning. After all it changed everything and even temporarily brought the nation together again with Todd Beamer’s “Let’s Roll” (flight 93) and Chevrolet’s “Keep America Rolling”, etc. Strauss and Howe claim in their book that temporary unity can occur in Fourth Turnings before the chaos ensues that “can” bring unity again later.
Now, consider how 911 also brought about the Patriot Act and the unending wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and how the Iraq War, in turn, especially helped Obama win the presidency in 2008.
If 911 was NOT the Catalyst for this Crisis, then it would have to be the financial meltdown of 2007-2008 which, was also very predictable.
In the Fourth Turning book, Strauss and Howe assert the following timeline for a typical Crisis:
Catalyst to End of Crisis = approximately 25 years with the Climax occurring approximately 5 years before the End of the Crisis.
Therefore, if 911 was indeed the Catalyst for this Fourth Turning, the End of the Crisis would occur sometime around 2025-2026. This would place the Climax of the Crisis around 2020.
If the 2008-2009 financial crash, subsequent TARP bailouts, QE forever, etc, was to be considered to be the Catalyst, then the End of this Fourth Turning could occur sometime around 2030-2033 and the Climax around 2025-2028?
In the last Fourth Turning, the Crisis began with the October 1929 stock market crash and ended 16 years later, after WW II in 1945.
16 years from 2001 = 2017. (Happy New Year)
16 years from 2008 – 2009 = 2024-2025.
Either way, in any scenario, and judging by the daily headlines, we appear to be right on schedule.
Great articles, Admin. Reading them made me feel like I was blind-folded and standing on the edge of a great abyss at one minute to midnight during a catagory 5 hurricane while surrounded by bird-flu infected black swans.
Great comment Uncola. If it matters, Neil Howe thinks the Fourth Turning began in September 2008. He’s written a couple articles about it.
As a sidenote, 2033 would correspond with Armstrong’s 2032.95 6th and final wave in this 309.6 year cycle. He predicts the US will break up at that point. I agree with him and if anything I think he’s being generous as to when that will occur.
One quibble, you mean flaut, not flaunt.
All highly probable outcomes but probably a few years out for some of the most dire. However I fear our and the Europeans’ reactions will be to accept crap for far too long and not open our eyes and push back as we should. As with you I do not see a positive outcome no matter what given the amount of debt and civil discord.
Prior to this election cycle, while I did not particularly like the common/regular people on the left at this point their reactions prior to and since the election have opened my naive eyes. My only question now is what proportion of them are truly evil and what proportion are just the useful idiots thinking they are either actually doing the right thing or greedy looking for free stuff.
As far as the media, I am only surprised that they were willing to unmask themselves, their evil nature came as no surprise. Again, I fear that the average person will not remember or notice.
David – One quibble, (I think) you mean flout not flaut..
Perhaps you confuse ‘flaut’ (Pertaining to flutes) with ‘flout’ (to treat contemptuously).
That aside, yes, I understand your point and agree, I think he perhaps meant to use flout.
If you treat The Constitution with disdain you are flouting it. If you make an ostentatious display of something then you are flaunting it.
Yes, I must have been channeling the au letter combo from flaunt in one of my many moments of stupidity. My apologies.
Europe’s fate is our window to the future…we need a 180.
“The ships’ too big with too small a rudder. Everything he knows is wrong.”
Titanic, 1997
This ship will not turn 180 before we hit the berg. Get used to it.
“She’s made of iron, sir. I assure you. she can (sink). And she will. It is a mathematical certainty”.
I don’t have enough ammo.
I don’t have enough whiskey.
Tequila
No such thing as too much whiskey. Party on, Garth!
What you don’t have enough of is time.
No such thing as too much ammo.
There is always a ton of but if maybes , especially when attempting to unravel the twisted mess our government has been allowed to morph into because of a lack of attention to details regarding outcomes of decisions and legeslations passed on our behalf . Thanks for using the photo of the Baltimore police car that always brings up the comment “Now there are some black lives that aren’t worth shit” . Why our law enforcement did not shoot those rioting pieces of shit in there worthless skull I will never know ! But back to the government action or inaction , should a few of our so called representatives be found beat to death for there obvious malfiezince in office a multitude of them would get the real message and as for the debt constantly created take it from their families mouths and then you may see a differance but not likely . At one time they tried to hide what a piece of shit they are now they brag about it ! We are crashing bad and it’s going to hurt bad “real bad”
shoot those rioting pieces of shit in there worthless skull
shoot those rioting pieces of shit in their worthless skull – you meant, of course
Nice work,one cannot help but to conclude that many of the listed failures were by design.
The positioning of ‘refugees’.
BLM and the validation of lawlessness.
Doubleing(more?) of the debt.
NIRP.
If one were to plan the destabilization of America, it would look remarkably similar to the headlines of the past 10 years.
Good shit. The more I read and learn, the more difficult it is to be optimistic. I keep thinking “this year it happens” but it never does. At this point, I’ve just about become convinced that they really can kick the can forever. Guess we will see. Id kinda like to just get it over with while Im young. I’d like my kids to live in a better world.
Nice job, Jim. Regarding your prognostication skills after 08, not your fault. Your logic is sound. You dig deep into fundamentals, fundamentals can’t account for counterfeiting trillions and suspension of the rule of law. Regarding all the liberal weenies and activists, shutting them down is as easy as cutting the money off. And you make one factual error, obongo lived in Chicago for a while, but his hometown is Nairobi.
Bingo Gator!
Gator, it IS happening…there is not a set date/not a birthday party.
You have no reason to be optimistic, you’re being realistic.
Bills come due. Nothing–especially fraud–lasts forever.
Damn, I thought I was pessimistic. Seems as if a lot of this depends on Trump doing what he says. Not sure about that . I am sure about the polarization. If it snaps it will not be pretty.
“European cities will be rocked with violence throughout 2017.”
I hope so – action must occur in order to extricate the invaders.
The advosaries of free thinking people of good concience have taken such deliberate disastours control that I fear that the European issues of immigration from Muslim areas there as well as here coupled with illegals flooding in and coupling that with not just Americas economic failures but world wide sadly deadly force to protect our country may be soon at hand !
Glad I have tickets to the Rose Bowl tomorrow. Fight On SC.
I am going to finish my Tequila. Go to bed and enjoy USC kicking Penn St’s ass tomorrow. Then on Tuesday I am going to get up; go to work; continue work my ass off; believe tomorrow will come and prepare for the worst.
More Tequila; ammo & gold.
Nice work admin.
Penn State is going to kick USC’s ass.
Admin. It was WAY closer than I expected. It was probably the best college football game I have ever been too, my son agrees. We have been to a lot of college football games as SC ticket holders. That was one of the best ever.
Observations: Penn St QB was Farve like. He threw them into the game and threw them right out of the game. #12-Goodwin is a stud at receiver.
Darnold: Best QB in college football right now. He completely turned that team around. He is able to throw into incredibly tight windows with accuracy.
Hopefully, the two teams will meet again next year in the CFP, if the world holds together.
That game was ONE FUN 4 Hour distraction.
Darnold is going to be a superstar NFL QB. To do that as a freshman is phenomenal.
Great game. Dislike both schools, but the players were fantastic.
Hahahahaha! So far, you are 0-1.
BM
Good articles , good comments.This is all part of the plan. Just take a few moments to Google what some of the real elites (David Rockefeller ,The Rothschilds and their lackies) have said about Controlling and collapsing nations.Its all on the Internet if you want to take the time to look.Start with the Banking families of Europe.They got it down to a science.
Bummer alert Part II.
Truly EXCELLENT Admin, you are getting better and better.
I have to speculate that the event timing can likely / possibly be accelerated due to the sheer size of the debt dominos, and our technology, BUT lots of us have been skewered on our petards by the banksters ability to keep kicking the can over and over.
Newt Gingrich had an excellent interview today on a crucial question, hoping Trump team does not lose heart and will take the necessary fight to the limit it WILL require. A significant unknown.
However, the destruction of the democrats for a long term is another factor to make Trump’s work a bit easier, and this article is of interest in that regard.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/265265/how-george-soros-destroyed-democratic-party-daniel-greenfield#.WGknxUMBLIM.twitter
Again, double kudos for this excellent work.
Trump has the other side on the ropes but he’s a deal maker and compromiser and therefore won’t deliver any knockout punches. Betcha the wall never gets built, taxes aren’t lowered, Hellary gets a pass, and illegals aren’t deported.
How’s that for pessimism?
Rise Up: I’m not so sure. Trump’s a wheeler dealer, but he’s pretty determined to get HIS deal. I don’t see him compromising much on the things he really wants.
JQ., congratulations for the best econ blog in the world
Best Econ Blog
Doctor Housing Bubble: No one on the planet is doing a better job dissecting the insanities of real estate, especially in Cali.
The Burning Platform: The math always beats the politics and Jim Quinn is never afraid to speak truth to power.
The Economic Collapse Blog: To be sure, Michael Snyder is no one’s idea of a laugh-a-minute Jim Gaffigan clone, but his listicles are always must-reads and studded with valuable insights.
Zero Hedge: Chock full of analysis, doom-and-gloom, and rip-roaring commentary ripped from the headlines on a near real-time basis.
http://directorblue.blogspot.cz/2017/01/here-they-are-2016-fabulous-50-blog.html
Doug Ross has been a big supporter of TBP. I appreciate his kind words. I’m still hurting by not making the Washington Post fake news sites list. That was a real slap in the face.
Try not to get worried. Try not to turn on to problems that upset you. Don’t you know everything’s alright? Yes, everything’s fine! The Savior is with us tonight.
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No King but King Jesus.
Period.
Whilst I support Trump (when he does right in the eyes of the Almighty)..
.. He IS NOT, nor ever will be: My Savior. Nor any other, but Jesus.
Showing proper respect for that which is proper:
Is a wise and goodly thing
“I think it is pretty obvious my pessimism bias may have skewed my predictions for 2017. I’ve been pessimistic for the last eight years and the stock market is up 200%. I try to assess the world from a logical fact based frame of mind, but for the last eight years the world has been kept afloat by a combination of debt, delusions and denial.”
There are many of us that can agree with this statement but we continue to see the road to ruin we keep stumbling down as a country and world of lost sheep.
Great point about the peaceful transition of power. Obama’s so dumb he keeps poking both bears. It won’t end well for that nitwit car salesman.
There’s a lot of trash that will need taking out, the trash won’t have it any other way.
Accolades are deserving of whomever wrote this article. It is one of the most articulate and cogent eye-opening thoughtful articles I have read in some time. Bravo to you my friend. I will save this site in my bookmarks to be studied at length. I LIKE YOUR STYLE !!!
Thought provoking analysis admin most of which I agree with, but in the case of Trump and Putin coming to an agreement on Assad’s remaining in power, there’s a third party deeply involved as well. Israel wants Assad gone. The fate of Syria will give US all a clue on just how much control Israel will have over Trump foreign policy in MENA. I have no idea which way Trump will lean, but I’m have no doubt that the AIPAC pressure is on for him to attack Iran and dispose Assad. If Trump chooses to do the bidding of Bibi , then most likely WWIII wont wait for 2025.
“Trump and Putin will come to an agreement regarding keeping Assad in power in Syr turning both nations’ attention to obliterating ISIS and the so called “moderate” Al Qaeda terrorists in the Middle East.”
@ Flash
Excellent point! As I read Jim Q’s fantastical analysis, amongst the nuggets of clear, concise, logical conclusions, explanations, and predictions the only gripe I found was his perspective of U.S. -Russian relationships under Trump and Putin.
The House of Saud, U.S. (neo-cons…many in Trumps selected cabinate) and Israel’s(Zionist Netanyahu) continued warring and desire to attack Iran will lead to the precipice of WWIII.
The trick is to keep the public in the dark and fed shit like mushrooms:
http://mirrorspectrum.com/info/new-data-more-than-100-us-uk-israeli-french-turkish-advisers-were-allowed-to-leave-aleppo#
Remember John Kerry pleading for a ceasefire? We know why now. I wonder what diplomatic concessions were made for Putin, Russia, and Assad and Syria from Trump and the U.S. considering this article:
Kissinger is one of the king douches of the elite, real neo con scum!! If this doesn’t show that the world is highly managed from behind closed doors, not by elected puppets, but by advisors like Kissinger who hold their allegiance to their oaths to their fraternities instead of the masses I dont know what more one might need. Kissingers geopolitical imfluence on the world is mindboggling when taken as a whole.
The next major war to be unleashed on the world will be on the Korean Peninsula…in the aftermath, Russia and China will wrest away U.S. influence and allow for a natural gas pipeline to be ran from Russia to China through a unified Korea. Look at Duerte and the Philippines recent pivot to China and Russia and what is currently taking place in Turkey which will eventually withdraw from NATO and come under Russian, Iranian, Chinese influence.
Excellent analysis Jim as always!
Even sans the biblical bent, interesting take of the near future by anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYVFrRxYSi0
“Anonymous” is a pysop.
There is no question you are spot on on so many issues, but honestly, you degrade your own intelligence and even explain such behavior in the first part of the article. For example: “When your crowning achievement – Obamacare – is derided by virtually everyone in the country as an epic failure and will be repealed and replaced in short order, you realize your entire presidency was a sham and a national disgrace.” Derided by virtually everyone? Hardly. Just ask the 20+ million who now have care as a starting point. There are many who feel the only real solution is to go even further. Are they right? I have no idea, but “virtually everyone” is to bloviate at the very same level of the people you ridicule. You undermine your own arguments in doing so.
Yes, Obama was a disappointment on many levels, but before he even entered office, the Republican leadership made it clear that they would obstruct anything in their power to do so. To make such a statement before a bill is even in your hands, is a fundamental example of our system of government and ultimately, our society failing.
Obamacare is a complete Clusterfuck and most of your 20 million who now supposedly have care went on Medicaid. That could have been done without a massive new fucked up healthcare system. Obamacare did nothing but drive costs sky high and reduce choices for working Americans. Your lack of intelligence is borne out by your belief in the propaganda spewed by Obama and his minions. You degraded my website by making such an asinine comment.
Truly sad that you have such analytical skills and insights, but have such nastiness and outright hypocrisy that undermines the very authority you wish to express. If you want credibility, engage the issue rather than attack the individual. Wishing you all the best in 2017.
I love when special snowflakes go on the attack and make a derogatory comment and when I kick them in the balls with facts they get all butt hurt. What a surprise you did not refute my comment with facts. Obama loving douchebags like yourself are all about feelings and fantasy. Obamacare is a complete and utter disaster and your comment was ridiculous. Deal with it snowflake. Nasty enough for you?
a) If the average high school English teacher read your two articles, they would make the very same comments. You make a case against the very same behavior you later express.
b) If you actually read what I said, I never said I liked Obama. I consider him to be a disappointment, but at least I have the balanced sensibilities to consider a reason why his presidency was doomed, from the start.
c) Perhaps your reaction is a very good reflection on why this society, as a whole, is where it is. Clearly, everyone who disagrees with you is an “Obama-loving douchebag”. Clearly, you can’t handle any form of criticism. “Virtually everyone” would come to that conclusion if they were dispassionately evaluating your articles and responses.
d) Oh, and if you actually were concerned or interested in healthcare, you would know, that before the 2008/09 crisis, healthcare expenses in a pre ACA world, was the leading reason for personal bankruptcy filings. It’s easy to attack Obamacare, but it is even worse to ignore the previous system was in free fall.
How ’bout this, nitwit Alex: “Virtually anyone with a brain”. So in other words, not you.
Keep flailing about trying to pretend your initial comment wasn’t derogatory. I respond in the same manner I’m addressed. You then get bent out of shape because the facts show that Obamacare has driven premiums off the charts, destroyed choice, reduced options, destroyed small businesses, did not save families $2,500 per year (remember that lie Alex?). It also wasn’t going to add one dime to the national debt (remember that Alex?). It is adding Trillions to the national debt. They sold it as covering the 20 million uninsured people in the country. According to the CBO, there are still 20 million uninsured. Half the people on Obamacare had insurance and were kicked off their plans because companies could do it.
Your contention has been obliterated.
And Obama’s presidency being doomed from the start is absolute bullshit. He had both houses of Congress for two years. He got through his $800 billion porkulus plan, Obamacare and his ramping up war in Afghanistan. He fucked them all up.
Keep commenting so everyone can see what a low IQ dolt you are.
New years resolution gets an early workout. HA!
I really don’t believe anyone cares what an average high school English teacher thinks about these issues.
Well, that’s kinda the problem, isn’t it. No one cares what anyone else thinks.
A little math for you Alex….330 million people minus 20 million ( and I doubt that number) is still ” Virtually Everyone”…..just because you’re happy with me and my wife paying for the majority of your obamacare ( I presume you have it, otherwise you speak about which you know nothing) and taking care of your health for you, doesn’t mean that us hard working, productive members of society aren’t unhappy about paying for you dependents–and all of their anchor babies.
Yup, the 20 million are getting it on the backs of the average working family now paying over $25,000 PER YEAR for LESS benefits!!!!
Alex….Hey, 20K may have “care” but 80% do not.
And you are degrading my son’s name. Do not be Alex.
Shithead? Be gone.
“Disappointment on many levels?” F’ing understatement of the year, Snowy. Now go play some Nintendo in your Mom’s basement and remember to change your onesie.
Thanks for cheering me up. Everything is so far beyond fxxcked up I think I’ve gone full circle and now it just seems funny. Pessimism is the new optimism.
“No King but King Jesus.” ——– Child of the Most High
Praise da Lawd!!! Trump IS Jesus. And, I’m gonna prove it with theistic numerology.
1. Everyone knows the number of The Beast is 666. However, few know the number of The Most High is 777.
2. Both Trump and Jesus have 5 letters. (We’ll get to that in a moment)
3.
T – J …………… there are 10 letters between the “T” and “J”
R – E ………….. separated by 13 letters
U – S ………….. separated by 2 letters
M – U ………… separated by 8 letters
P – S …………. separated by 3 letters
4. So, you have 10, and 13, and 2, and 8, and 3
Multiply 10 * 13 = 130
Multiply 130 * 2 = 260
Multiply 260 * 3 = 780
That leaves the number 8.
— 8 = 5 + 3
——- You must discard the “5” because it is a Holy Number, since both Jesus and Trump contain 5 letters.
——- That leaves the number 3. The number 3 is the number of the Trinity, and must be subtracted from the equation, because the Trinity does not share Glory with anyone.
5. So! You have 780 -3 = 777 !! … the holiest of holy numbers. And the only name in all humanity for which this works is Trump, which, in my book, proves that Donald = Jesus , praise da Lawd.
Sometimes I think I have too much time on my hands. Or, that I am demented.
Stuck, since you have so much free time…(the 2nd link is only 4 hours, 44 minutes).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2e2ve2W-es
Idle hands are the devil’s playground.
OMG… stop with the bs please
The gematria for Jesus is actually 888.
http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/teachings/books/the-revelation-book-5/chapter-7-666-the-number-of-his-name/
As Cash Shortage Leads To Manufacturing Contraction, Economic Shockwaves, Indian Banks Slash Interest Rates
by Tyler Durden
Jan 2, 2017 10:47 AM
Over 50 days after Indian Prime Minister Narenda Modi stunned India’s population when he announced on November 8 he would unexpectedly eliminate 86% of the existing currency in circulation in what was supposed to be a crackdown on the shadow economy, but instead has resulted in a significant hit to the broader, cash-based economy, overnight we noted the first official confirmation of how substantial the impact of Modi’s demonetization has been, when the Nikkei India Manufacturing Purchasing Managers Index printed at 49.6 in December, the first contraction reading since December 2015, as the war on cash crippled demand.
According to the report, output and new orders fall for first time in one year; companies reduced buying levels and payroll numbers; Input cost inflation accelerated, while charges rose at softer rate.
Commenting on the report, IHS Markit economist Pollyanna De Lima said that “having held its ground in November following the unexpected withdrawal of 500 and 1,000 bank notes from circulation, India’s manufacturing industry slid into contraction at the end of 2016. Shortages of money in the economy steered output and new orders in the wrong direction, thereby interrupting a continuous sequence of growth that had been seen throughout 2016. Cash flow issues among firms also led to reductions in purchasing activity and employment.
Looking at the upcoming timeline of cash exchanges, she noted that “with the window for exchanging notes having closed at the end of December, January data will be key in showing whether the sector will see a quick rebound.”
As Bloomberg added, other recent data also mirror the stress. Motorcycle maker Bajaj Auto Ltd.’s total sales slipped 22 percent in December, the steepest fall in at least 21 months. Motorcycle sales, a key indicator of rural demand, declined 18%. India’s biggest automaker by volume, Maruti Suzuki Ltd., reported a 4.4 percent drop in domestic December sales, the first decline in six months, while overall sales fell 1 percent from a year earlier.
A continued slowdown will strip India of its position as one of the world’s fastest-growing big economies and risk a political backlash against Modi. On Wednesday another key economic report is due, when the Service PMI data is due before focus shifts to the government’s first official growth estimate for the year through March.
India’s economy, which until recently was expected to be the world’s fastest growing, large economy, outpacing China…
… is now expected to grow 6.9% in the year through March, according to a consensus estimate. That’s well below the 7.3% predicted by a survey in November and the previous year’s 7.6% actual expansion. At this rate of deterioration, China, and its “goalseeked” 6.5% annual growth rate may soon regain the top spot among world economies.
Meanwhile, in an attempt to offset the slowing economy as a result of the Prime Minister’s unprecedented demonetization gamble, overnight Indian banks, led by market leader State Bank of India, announced sharp cuts to their lending rates after the recent surge in deposits as ordinary Indians brought their cash to the bank for “safekeeping”, raising hopes that lower borrowing costs will help spark credit growth in Asia’s third-largest economy.
On Sunday, State Bank of India, India country’s biggest lender by assets, said it had cut its so-called marginal cost of funds-based lending rates (MCLR) by 90 bps, while unveiling new products for mortgage loans, one of the fastest-growing areas. Other lenders including Punjab National Bank, Union Bank of India, Kotak Mahindra Bank and Dena Bank followed suit and also cut their lending rates by 45-90 basis points across tenures. Analysts expect more lenders to follow suit.
Banks have received 14.9 trillion rupees ($219.30 billion) in old 500, and 1,000 rupees notes from depositors since Modi’s cash overhaul. That had raised expectations banks would have room to cut lending rates, which is seen as vital to increase credit growth and spark a revival in private investments.
Cited by Reuters, Arundhati Bhattacharya, chairman of SBI, said at a news briefing on Monday, the rate cuts were intended to “jump start” credit growth and could raise it by 100-200 bps in the year ending in March. Even if accurate, it remains to be seen if such credit growth will have an offsetting impact on economic growth.
SBI now expects credit growth for 2016/17 fiscal year to be 8-9%, Bhattacharya said, still lower than the lender’s previous formal guidance of 10-12% growth. Any signs of a revival in credit could ease some of the worries from Modi’s move, which has sparked a severe cash shortage that has paralyzed parts of the economy.
The rate cuts also come after Modi on Saturday warned banks to “keep the poor, the lower middle class, and the middle class at the focus of their activities,” and to act with the “public interest” in mind.
Modi’s comments were made in a special New Year’s eve speech in which he defended his ban on higher-value cash notes and announced a slew of incentives including channeling more credit to the poor and the middle class.
Some have expressed optimism that the combined impact of banks cutting lending rates and subvention provided by the government to small businesses is likely to help turn around growth faster than expected in the next fiscal year,” said Saugata Bhattacharya, chief economist at Axis Bank, the third-biggest Indian lender. Many others remain skeptical.
For now, however, the immediate impact was on Indian Bonds, which rose after SBI’s interest cutting announcement, pushing the yield on the sovereign note due September 2026 to 6.4% from 6.51%. If anything, this is the latest sign that in a world drowning in leverage, and whose economy is priced to perfection, any ongoing “tightness” and rising rates, will only lead to adverse consequences not only in Emerging Markets, but developed ones as well.
Tylers site is Bolshevik Central
Another idiotic comment. I really need an IQ test for commenters. The stupid it burns.
Seems to me I have been saying these same warnings for a long time here, but certainly not as eloquently. I applaud admin for his balls and truth. The shit is going to hit the fan and we all seem to know it. The question is not whether but when? Are you ready? Can you protect yourself and those that you love?
To lay all the blame on the left and Obama is more bias on who to blame for massive debt. To write off everyone that is going to be very surprised at removing cash and programs from the poor and middle class then handing it over to big oil and banks as liberals? Oh boy those protestors will be US Citizens ready to hang the upper classes. From promoting pointing guns at one another to pointing them at the Billionaires is the only way to make a real change as it did in the 1900-1940’s.
The KGB just upended the elections for Trump, bribes to Russian Companys and hidden agenda for his own wealth, what could go wrong? Treason is not treason if Russian KGB is involved? What about ISIS would what be ok with Congress or the American people? Trump happened so a Moble Oil deal could go through in Russia? These oil companies are our new GODS. Life or death of our planet via a small group of corporate criminals.
My only hope is when this nest bubble pops they all start jumping from windows again like 1929, make way for new blood.
Greetings,
Here is exactly how I’d do things were I Trump.
1. No need to build a wall because on day one I’d use RICO laws to seize the assets of anyone that hired, housed or fed and illegal immigrant. You rent to an illegal then you forfeit your home. If the police can seize your car if you used it to solicit a prostitute then the Fed’s can seize it as well. I’d post 800 tip numbers everywhere so that the people could report one another to get a share of the reward. Illegals gone in 30 days. Problem solved.
2. Moments after the inauguration, I’d have a Seal Team seize George Soros. The Russians have a warrant for his arrest and I’d send Soros there after, of course, freezing all of his assets. This move alone would terrorize the Left and they’d STFU instantly. This would also immediately destroy BLM.
3. Any university that in any way catered to the Snowflake crowd would see its contracts with the government vanish as well as any federal student loans. The Red Guard Maoists must be crushed.
4. I would take on large infrastructure projects and pay for it with welfare money. The free ride ends now.
Trump doesn’t need Congress for any of this. He has a pen and a phone just like Obama.
Bring out your dead… bring out your dead…
I suppose you would like to see the aftermath of your ideas.. Dead “lefties” everywhere, but then why do they look like your neighbor and your grand parents?
Try not to think so much, it’s obvious that it’s painful for you to do..
You, sir, are an idiot. Arresting a few at the top means we don’t have to slaughter their followers. It saves lives. Using existing RICO laws means we do not have to build a useless wall but instead punish all the elites that like to use illegal labor. Seize a few restaurants, apartment complexes and some homes in Malibu and the 20 – 30 million illegals in the country will be gone lickity split.
Of course, we can do it the hard way if you want. Is that what you want?
Nickle, I like your numbered points except for #4. Don’t use more of my tax money by substituting infrastructure for welfare. Pay for the infrastructure needs by eliminating the IRS, EPA, and Dept. of Education. (And yes, drastically reduce welfare with workfare.)
Greetings,
I’m a man willing to compromise. OK, lets start with the department of education (sic).
Nickel — Actually. I think “due process” is the operative phrase here. Much as you despise illegals, snowflakes, people on welfare, George Soros, people on the Left, the BLM, Red Guard Maoists, and people like Bob who disagree with you; and as much as you love the idea of seizing peoples’ assets just because you don’t like them, as well as living in a climate of suspicion where people turn each other in for “rewards”, I’m pretty sure you’d like living in a society where due process is absent quite a bit less.
Greetings,
I love me some due process but none of us currently get any. That has been gone for a very long time. No, the law is now a weapon and I want to see all the laws that have been used on us used on them. It is time we wage war on the support team for the deep state.
Tell you what, I’m all for having some A.I. run the country. Have it learn the laws of the land and then turn it loose on all of us with no exceptions and you’ll see the law change overnight.
Why did we like illegals in 2005 and not so much now.. Perhaps answering that question would be more productive than name calling.
And thinking that we are going to use rico laws to change the behavior of people like the don who uses foreign labor all the time is patently absurd. Perhaps you should look closer at his cabinet picks. They are all about exploitation at your expense. But don’t let me tell you something that you would prefer not to know..
Less hatred, more thinking.. It’s the better way to go but I know that you won’t choose thinking, the evidence is right here..
Unfortunately under federal laws, the same companies that can be prosecuted for hiring illegals can be prosecuted for NOT hiring illegals, and the same landlords who can be prosecuted for renting to illegals can be prosecuted for NOT renting to illegals. There are two conflicting sets of laws, which demonstrates how nonsensical our Government has become.
Cutting off federal funds to sanctuary states, counties, and cities, and to universities, colleges, and grade schools that discriminate against conservatives or teaches lies about them, is a good start. Schools with PC speech codes should be cut off immediately. If quotas are used to achieve racial diversity in hiring, then they should also be used to achieve philosophical diversity in hiring. There are actually more conservatives than liberals in this country, so to be fair, schools should have to hire more conservatives than liberals in all departments. Presently, only 2% of university instructors identify as conservative. This is like flying a plane with only one wing (the left one) or driving a car with only one eye opened (the left one). Balance cannot be achieved without both sides pretty much equalized. And an imbalance this extreme can only lead to disaster.
Perfect Nickle,
except for #4…that move is complicated. Even the most “Libertarian”
survivalist will not want to see the ghetto totally starve. Right?
Greetings,
They’ll either starve now or when the money runs out. Better to jump that hurdle while the machine is still running.
To the person who said they do not have enough quicklime: Buzzards gotta eat too.
Project much? I don’t see “lefties” buying guns in record numbers. To the one lefty “Soros” there are an army of “righties” financing discord starting with Koch brothers who pretty much hate the idea that anyone but “theirs” should benefit in any way. If their agenda succeeds be prepares for servitude to their god… money. Who will pay for all of the things that we call public goods that they use but would prefer not to make any payment to provide, like roads?
Math… somehow I doubt that righties care as long as they “win”. Football politics has lead us to the biggest liar on the planet running the most corrupt country ever ( 501c3’s, lobbying anyone?) under the guise of MAGA.. Good luck!
I’m not a lefty, I’m a republican from when republicans had at least a little bit of respect for their fellow man, so much for that. Now it’s I’ve got mine and FU..
Enjoy the ride through hell, you asked for it.
Yes let’s steal the wealth of the productive people at the point of a gun to give it to the less fortunate. Really Bob, you can’t see why that is wrong on so many levels? Aside from the fact that theft is just wrong, goes against the natural rights of man to freedom and the pursuit of happiness, whatever you tax you get less of and whatever you subsidize you get more of. At some point the productive among us will just stay home and we’ll all be on the dole. A sure path to prosperity? Only a collectivist retard can’t see the folly in it.
No Huck.. I pay school taxes and my kids are grown.. If we don’t tax those who make the most money, then should we just raise yours to pay for everything while letting them off making them part of a multi-generation dynasty? If they make 95% of all income they should be paying 95% of all of the taxes. How else should it work? When we weren’t dumb shxts, we used to tax them heavily above a certain point and as a result, they made better decisions for all of us. They didn’t pay the extra tax, they paid their workers better and invested in their communities. Now what do we have? Coddle the wealthy because you feel sorry for them, why?
Please explain your end game for the coddled wealthy and the rest of us. I really need to hear what you think is so important about these people that they need you to take up their cause and I know that you aren’t anywhere close to wealthy. So… go at it. Show me how wrong I am.
While you are at it, explain how we got to the point where you could spout your crap on the internut without “collectivists” working together to make the internet even happen. Then move on to your Iphone, and explain where that came from. I’m sure steve jobs made the whole thing in his basement… RIGHT?
Chavez stopped coddling Venezuela’s rich and in the name of fairness nationalized their property to made them pay their share. Do you care to report how things are going for the now non class exploited workers and peasants of Venezuela? We do know that along with the rich, Caracas’s stray animals are gone. I’m not sure about the rich humans, but, to stave off starvation, the strays have been eaten by the liberated workers along with zoo animals who themselves have been starving. The left always has a unique way of making people equal. They all get stuffed onto the bottom rung of the economic ladder except for those, like Chavez’s daughter who just happens to be more equal than everyone else – about $4.5 billion more equal!
Sorry it took me so long to reply Bob, I’ve had too many cloudy days in a row to have power for the modem.
You try so hard to come off as this ultra intellectual, but you are pretty fucking stupid. It should be obvious when I call you a collectivist I’m speaking of your ideology. Not the synergy of teamwork. There is a huge difference, but know-it-alls like yourself miss distinctions like that. Instead of trying to educate you I will offer this link
where you can go and educate yourself. While you are there you might look around at the rest of the website. It is full of wisdom.
You rail against libertarianism as if it is somehow ignorant and backwards and you offer up the big government nanny state as the superior alternative. Because us stupid little people, well, we’re just too fucking dumb to manage our lives without giant brains like yours telling us how to do it. If you had any knowledge of history at all you would know for a concrete FACT that free markets when left unmanaged, untweaked, unmolested, and yes unregulated will outperform central planning every time, by a limitless margin. Name one thing that the government hasn’t stuck their dirty, sticky, fat fingers into that they haven’t made worse or couldn’t be done better by the people. You suggest that without the leviathan federal government we wouldn’t have roads, the internet, or couldn’t fly an airplane. What utter total nonsense. Old people would be dying, because those mean old libertarians, well, we’d just starve them to death. And the poor unfortunates in the housing projects, we’d just let them die too, and just think how stupid all the children would be if their parents actually took responsibility for educating them.
I am convinced that limited government is orders of magnitude better for the prosperity and freedom of the people that the leviathan that you say we desperately need. I’d even take it to it’s logical conclusion and say that we could do quite fine without government at all. None of your nonsensical drivel has done anything to lead me to believe otherwise. Government is an impediment to progress, freedom and prosperity. It is a ginormous bully shaking us all down for our lunch money.
You like to throw class envy in there about how terrible those evil rich people are and if we didn’t have big brother there to keep them in line why they’d just swallow us all. How about this Boob, how about free markets. If you don’t like the big fat-cat rich fuckers then don’t patronize their business. All the big rich people you hate got that way by lobbying the federal government, contracting to the federal government or got the playing field tilted in their favor by the federal government. They are creatures that are made by the government, protected by the government, enabled by the government and promoted by the government. Don’t even try to throw the government out there as a solution to the problem that these people pose.
Have we passed ‘Peak Trump’ already, and has normal politics resumed?
It was good while it lasted.
“One can only know by not knowing” – Tao Te Ching
Where did you find that? It makes no sense.
Maybe this is what you meant:
“The wise man is one who knows what he does not know.”
― Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching
I am very wise
Yes.
“The Deep State propaganda machine has convinced the masses we are living in normal times, despite the fact the Fed printed $3.5 trillion out of thin air and handed it to the criminal Wall Street banks, interest rates have been kept at or near zero for eight years, revelations from Snowden that we truly live in a surveillance state far exceeding Orwell’s dystopian vision, the national debt doubling to $20 trillion, proof that all financial markets are rigged, undeclared wars being waged across the globe, and a reality TV star defeating a criminal to be president of the United States.”
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Maybe this is the “new normal”. Look at how long Japan has kicked it’s can down the road. Recall only 10 years ago, to believe real estate only went up was “normal”. Stealing from the SS “Trust” Fund has been known for years. The Echelon cross-border listening stations have been online since the 80’s.
Of course, none of that is good or logical or Constitutional, but it’s now “normal”.
Trump and company have no interest, really, in curtailing illegal immigration. They made him a lot of money over the years, and it wasn’t just the illegal Polish workers he used, (and then ripped off). If the powers that be were serious, they’d just make EVERIFY mandatory for every company in the country–$500 fine per day per illegal if you’re in noncompliance. Of course Reagan could have done the same thing when they granted amnesty back then to millions of illegals. The right wing loves illegals because they lower wages, bust unions, and make the very rich richer. Some on the far left like them because it makes them feel good and they haven’t thought things through. Stopping illegal immigration should always have been a Democratic , progressive priority, (and they wouldn’t have lost the last election).
These numbers are fun to watch.
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
Old german saying WHEN THINGS GO GOOD THE DONKEY WALKS ON THE ICE. One more and i’ll leave you guy’s to duke it out. When a man with money meets a man with experience the man with the experience will get the money and the man with the money will get some experience. I should have enjoyed the 50’s a lot more never thought they would be the last of america.
I keep thinking the same thing, too. Should have appreciated every moment of my 50’s childhood, never knowing I was living in the golden age of our country.
@Elizabeth what was so golden about that time? I’m apparently a few years younger, not that much, still boomer but I actually prefer a good number of the things that have changed since then. Cars for one.. the stuff out there now doesn’t oil up your driveway and they handle.. nuff said. Cellphones, most of the time great. A whole lot of things are routine at the doc’s office. The food is better and you can get fresh at times of the year easier. I could go on but.
What was so much better? Just wondering.
Bob
A family could sustain a middle class lifestyle on one income, so moms could stay home with their kids. The society was generally law-abiding and orderly. The public schools were not leftist indoctrination centers. Teenagers didn’t use a form of the f-bomb in every other sentence. Beautiful young women didn’t sport tattoos all over themselves. Middle school students weren’t concerned about which of their classmates were gay. Kids spent their free time playing outside, getting lots of exercise. The food wasn’t contaminated.
Those are a few things off the top of my boomer brain.
Ok gayle, so you have a problem with the way that automation and crap corporations have made it nearly impossible to raise a family with someone to actually care for their kids. But then you still vote republican as I did in the past and have yet to understand that they have helped offshore your good job and refuse to keep wages of the jobs that are left at even a livable hourly rate. Vote for more of it… why not? It only affects those other people that you have been trained to hate. Thinkers like me.. And of course poor people, “illegals” and non-whites… The undeserving
“The society was generally law-abiding and orderly.” It still is on the civil end, in fact if you were to bother to compare statistics pretty much everything violent has fallen off a cliff. Research is pointing to the removal of lead in gasoline as a cure to young male aggression. On the political front there is more graft than there has ever been and republicans do more of it than anyone. Check out Trump’s cabinet picks.. Graft as far as the eye can see.. Don’t take my word for it, spend some time researching it. Oh and stop watching the news.. they make a point of inflating crime to sell viagra. Yet another thing that shouldn’t be on tv.. Daddy what is an erection?
” The public schools were not leftist indoctrination centers.” And they still aren’t they are testing centers that make money for pearson and privateers that could care less about your kid. Did you ever ask why investors are given a seat at the table and not the educators? Those investors are better educators than a person trained to teach? Did I miss something? Teachers that used to give a crap are quitting and young people are avoiding the profession because nighty “law makers” mostly republican are saying on the news, that they don’t do their job and the kids need more testing and the teachers need to be held accountable while cutting funds for educating and forcing the schools to pay more for testing supplies, not educational supplies, testing supplies. The teachers used to be able to make their own tests on a copier, teach in their own way and not be berated constantly. I’m sure that you have never engaged in berating schools and teachers without trying to understand the situation first. AmIRight?
“Teenagers didn’t use a form of the f-bomb in every other sentence. Beautiful young women didn’t sport tattoos all over themselves. Middle school students weren’t concerned about which of their classmates were gay.” Your parents were appalled at your culture as well, mine most certainly were. Remember the Beatles, Stones and those long haired hippies. I do! Get over it the pendulum swings both ways.. Beam forward or back 100 years and you will find the same thing in different forms. It’s as old as people themselves..
“Kids spent their free time playing outside, getting lots of exercise.” Are you a parent? Kick them outside and limit their use of entertainment electronics. Not all kids are as you say, just the ones that have a single parent, two working parents, both of which exacerbates the school situation, or are lazy. And I have witnessed quite a few of my affluent neighbors in that category.. LAZY! Give your kids attention and pay attention to their schooling and the complaints such as yours kinda take care of themselves..
“The food wasn’t contaminated.” Actually it was and it was way worse but we didn’t talk about it for a myriad of reasons. One being we didn’t know what we know now. I’m sure the people living down wind of the nuke tests wouldn’t agree with you on what we know now.. how long did we make leaded paint, leaded gasoline and paint luminescent dots on watches with radioactive paint that we used our tongues to align? Or X-ray shoe sizer machines.. DDT.. Asbestos.. Or.. It was bad and we didn’t even know it.
Educate yourself.. It’s easy to complain but way more hard to fix these things unless you make your contributions daily instead of complaining. Fix your own house then help those you can help and the world will be a lot better..
We live in the greatest country on earth, you would know this if you have traveled both inside and outside of this country. We have our problems and some of us are ignorantly trying to make them worse such as most of the people voting for republicans, some dems as well but mostly self centered Republicans. Look around on this very page.. I’ve got mine FU! But professional Republicans only want to be wealthy at your expense, can you blame them when you vote for them?
And we still had some trust for our politicos, who were generally local lawyers who wanted to get their ideas into the public eye by launching a campaign to a local congressional seat. The real money changers had not invaded our holy temple on the Potomac then.
And the cops didn’t throw middle aged housewives in long dresses and leggings onto the ground, handcuff them and pinch their wrists via some remote control device just because they told her she could not walk on a public street because they said so. In spite of my arguing with them and telling them again and again I wanted to walk the last few blocks to my lawyer’s office, they had to surround me and get me to the pavement, where they took my legal documents I carried, my (retired) military ID and my single little business card with my lawyer’s address and phone number on it.
And they never returned any of those things.
But, that happened to me, didn’t it, just a couple years ago. And it scared me to my very core, which is sick of acting like the kind of person who would even talk to some of the less intelligent monkeys around here. Sorry for hanging with the scumbags, but I’ve really been very sick.
I think I’ve gotten the issue resolved and hope to rejoin the polite and civil discussions.
I’d hoped to add a summary to the discussion regarding the health care problems we face and the lack of clear goals defined by the various players on my current health care team, but I think I’ve “lost” that comment in cyberspace again.
Actually, IIRC, we were doing petty well right up until about November 22, 1963…
The repubs stymied Obamacare all the way along.
We need single-payer health care with options like other civilized countries around the world. Everyone needs skin in the game and needs to pay a percentage of a medical bill as a copay in order to keep expenses in line, otherwise people with good, untaxed medical benefits don’t care what things cost. This is for basic medical care, (a great benefit to make American industry competitive with the rest of the world). If individuals want to supplement , so be it, but we’ll all be in this together.
As far as jobs, the Wall Street Journal thinks the US will lose 75 million jobs within 20 years due to automation, better computers, and more digital stuff done overseas. Trumpsters are just blowin smoke in regards to building up a ‘yooge’ amount of manufacturing jobs. We need to stop illegals, deport them, and greatly curtail the million plus a year legal immigration we have. Unlike the Trumpie tax breaks to the uber rich, they need to be taxed heavily in the 1-3% tax bracket range with tax breaks going to the middle class. (who can then afford to buy stuff that would put Americans to work).
Trump is filling the swamp higher–what a joke it all is.
“We need single-payer health care with options like other civilized countries around the world.”
You want to put the DMV in charge of your health insurance? Not me.
Notice also the difference between HEALTH INSURANCE and health care. HEALTH INSURANCE is a racket spawned by an unholy alliance between hospitals and insurance companies, neither of which should be allowed in the same room at the same time. Health care is treatment, surgery and medicines and stitches and X-rays; patients should pay for health care they receive, not insurance scams that DRIVE UP the cost of health care. Nor is single-payer any kind of solution: let’s just remove responsibility for paying for your health care from you and assign it to government, which has NO incentive to reduce its’ costs.
This month my ObamaDontCare premium went up again and now costs more than my house note each month. Save $2500 a year? My ass, another LIE from people who like the idea of the government running everything.
Try the real world, the one you’re in now doesn’t exist. And your “civilized” countries with single-payer are about to go under from uncontrolled immigration sponsored by people like Obama, who imported more Muslim Syrians last year than ever. He hates America, and he doesn’t care about you, me or how we are already overpaying for his policies. May he rot in obscurity after Trump reverses all his executive orders and puts him on trial for treason.
I agree with you on the cost issues but quite frankly you have been sold a bill of goods by a party that I used to somewhat respect. Heath care is not Health Insurance. I agree. Why would you put an intermediate corporation who’s sole motivation is profit, between yourself and your doctor, when their mechanism for profit is denial of services? That’s insane. But if you realize that these insurance companies become billing agents in a single payer system who make a percent or two processing the “government” system that you despise, then is it “government” at all? Especially if the rules are written to encourage customer care rather than profit. Screw your customers, go out of business. It works elsewhere, why not here?
“And your “civilized” countries with single-payer are about to go under from uncontrolled immigration sponsored by people like Obama, who imported more Muslim Syrians last year than ever. ”
So… you are definitely saying that single payer isn’t the cause of their going under? That has been the argument that I have heard over and over regardless of the fact that their systems cost less than half of ours. I could never reconcile the two until just now.
“He hates America, and he doesn’t care about you, me or how we are already overpaying for his policies.” Because he’s a black Muslim.. He’s not like “us”, I get it.. Go Trump!
“May he rot in obscurity after Trump reverses all his executive orders and puts him on trial for treason.” Yea! There’s so much case law on this, not to mention evidence of said treason, it’s going to be a cinch! It won’t even set any grand new precedent. Good golly we will look like the shining city on the hill if we do!
Yup! No doubt about it.
The health insurance controversy is a waste of time until preventive health protocols take precedence over the ill-gained profits of the evil quadruplets Big Farma, Big Pharma, Big Med, and Big Business.
The populace is generally unhealthy and continues to grow more so, with obesity rates – a source of many chronic illnesses -continuing to increase. We have a bunch of brain-damaged autistic kids running around due to a problem that was nonexistent 50 years ago. Food allergies in kids are now off the charts and the old are getting hit hard with Alzheimer’s. Diabetes is increasing. I could go on.
Unhealthy processed food should be highly taxed to help pay for the health problems it creates and sustains. Stores which carry a high percentage of unprocessed and /or organic foods should be rewarded with tax breaks. This would be just a start.
The medical/pharmaceutical marriage is literally killing us. There is no interest in keeping us healthy, only in treating our vast array of symptoms with very expensive drugs. I would like to know the profitability to all the entities mentioned above from the cancer industry alone. When I see the ladies of the pink bows harping about how a cheap, little vitamin D3 pill every day cuts your chances of getting breast cancer significantly, I will know we are beginning to fight back. Until then, they will continue their service to profit by “finding a cure.”
No solution to the issues of healthcare will be possible until the devil is removed as the master of the whole system.
The microbiome revolution will change the world. It’s the “cure” to what ails so very many. The only problem… There is no money in it. Your digestive tract bacteria load along with your genetics determines what you get. A lot of this is just now being discovered. There are no auto-immune diseases, they are all caused by digestive tract imbalances that make your immune system attack the rest of you.
“The populace is generally unhealthy and continues to grow more so, with obesity rates – a source of many chronic illnesses -continuing to increase. We have a bunch of brain-damaged autistic kids running around due to a problem that was nonexistent 50 years ago. Food allergies in kids are now off the charts and the old are getting hit hard with Alzheimer’s. Diabetes is increasing. I could go on.”
80+% of your immune system is from your mouth to your anus, what goes through it is very consequential. You have an immune reaction every time you dump something down your gullet. Perhaps it’s something in the food or water? Let’s just shut down the EPA and the FDA, they do nothing but make it all worse by telling us what will save us from the invisible pollution that our masters purvey on us all. It’s so stupid to even try to make a livable environment since Jebus will be arriving any day now..
Don’t expect the answers to come from Big Pharma, Agra or the insurance industry. In fact don’t expect the discoveries to be made in America, since there is no “profit”. Some might come from here but the majority will likely come from those dumb socialist democracies that actually give a crap about their populations… Or perhaps don the con will help us start to care? Yup! Of that I’m just so sure…
Hmmmm..
Gayle, your wisdom is sorely missed.
I find myself in the perfect witness chair to the problem you described so succinctly here.
I am currently being treated for a condition which is considered to be a service-connected injury because it is most likely the result of scar tissue and hernia repair complications resultant from an emergency surgery performed on me at the Tinker AFB hospital in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.
I had hoped to chronicle my experience moving through the “new, improved” health care system for readers at TBP. And it is fascinating, my friend. What began as a simple eight to ten week planned recovery careened wildly off track my first day home from the hospital when an incompetent medical home health care nurse left me on my knees with blood and “tissue” oozing out of a gaping wound on my stomach and onto the ceramic tile my husband so carefully laid in our bathroom. The story of how my husband and I coped with that situation has turned into a real “how to” guide to help anyone get through any crisis they might face. I even have a step-by-step checklist and an aircrew aid, just like I provided with all of my lesson plans which adhered to the ISO 9000 quality programs to which the Boeing contracts adhered. But, that is another story for another day. Nick and I (and my son for a day or so) handled it on our own. It has empowered us to take charge of the rest of our lives again, too. That includes with whom I spend my valuable time. and to whom I share my experiences with health care and the horrible tangled mess of bureaucratic red tape I already see snarling on my doorstep.
Add to that the constant emails and phone messages from medical equipment selling companies hoping like hell I am going to need even more overpriced equipment to help keep me alive. This thousand dollar wound vacuum the VA has apparently rented for me would cost about a thousand dollars if purchased outright. They are billing the VA or Tricare (still not positive who is paying for what) 80 percent. Our copay will be 20%. However, since it arrived August 30, Nick and I will be watching out for the double billing instead of pro-rating that should occur.
Nick and I educated ourselves on the medical care issue when I first got sick early in our marriage. He was still active duty AWACS, still deploying to Saudi Arabia as a Senior Enlisted Advisor to theater command. After the second major surgery I spent 11 days in an ICU and when we got the Explanation of Benefits which declares itself to NOT be a bill but tells you how much the medical billing office has set as their overall “goal.” how much they can get through balance billing remained to be seen. It just so happened my husband worked with another old ART (Airborne Radar Tech) named Pete Manchev whose wife, Cindy, had been a Tricare Insurance representative at the Hospital Administration building at Tinker for many years. Her help understanding and learning to navigate the confusing world of medical bills and balance billing was invaluable.
So, we everything we could learn about TriCare and how to make sure the medical agencies were coding everything correctly. The problems we face right now seem to be the usual suspects. A lack of communication between the people involved.
1. My surgeon: He has one expectation and goal: Get my wound healed and closed up so his repair can be functional.
2. My home health care service: There are multiple goals at play here. The management just wants the contract fulfilled. My nurse Amy wants to keep this skin clean. The expert wound care nurse wants to be able to assess the problem via cell phone picture and advise Amy what to try next.
3. The Veterans Administration. They have not tried to fight their obligation to at least help with the resolution of this life-time damage done to my abdomen. They do have terrible bureaucratic structures and the home health care company blames every problem I’ve had on the VA. I’ve just stopped mentioning them as an option because the expert nurse so obviously loathes them.
But, I get that Gayle. At some point people have just shut their minds to the possibility they might have missed something. They hate the messenger so violently they will not consider the message. There is a special name for that sort of message encryption. It is beyond counter measures.
So, yes, there is real hatred for me here now Gayle. But, it isn’t because I am unaware of its origin or cause. It is because it is best no one associate with someone whose life may well be examined soon with fine tooth comb. I am expecting the sort of people who get nit-picky, if you don’t mind the lousy pun. Both my husband and I were respected crewdogs in awacs and we know a few people from those and other professional associations. I also ended up on the Program Management Team for General Fedder at Tinker for a while. It was an assignment to write summary reports from the efficiency tools designed by the very clever programmer in Utah. I just happened to have access to all that data in order to do so.
So, there is no reason to reply to me (nor reason to fear… I have no bad botz tracker tools). I hope to be able to blend with the wallpaper and then chat a bit here and there with the more rational and less needy members of TBP. I will be adding a few thoughts to the new, improved Peterson Harris discussion soon, then leaving the platform for the day.
So, without further ado, I give this piece of information to several of you here and hope we can just move on past all this. If people do not learn how and when to stop fighting windmills, then we have no hope at all.
“The country is as divided as it was after the election of Abraham Lincoln in 1860. There is virtually no common ground between liberals and conservatives. The pure hatred and contempt between the winners and losers in the recent election does not bode well for the country over the next four to eight years.”
True… that has been the goal of the deep state for the last 35 years. If you’re going to re-make the world, you have to break a few eggs, and the U.S. is the egg. Can’t have the democratic champion of the world still standing as it is a reminder of what human action can accomplish. Divide and conquer, it never fails.
And we the people will do it for them… sad.
Mark — re “Divide and conquer, it never fails. And we the people will do it for them…”
Yup. Just witness the vituperation in this comments section. Looks like Mission Accomplished…
I need a fucking scorecard with this posting. Is Ireland also ripe to exit the EU? How about this Philly soda tax going into effect? Maybe if you stop driving through West Philly, you’ll stop having these nightmares. Great post. Have a Happy New Year!
Admin, your analysis and prognostications seems to have injured the sensibilities of a quite a few snowflakes. Well done!
Si vis pacem para bellum
PS: I’m tardy I know, but Happy New Year to all. Keep your powder dry.
Jim,
Some very good analysis here.
It’s important to keep in mind though that Obama and Trump are both in on the game and so both have advanced and will continue to advance the agenda of The Order.
They’re a prime example of the Hegelian dialectic in action, which has been used by the Order for many hundreds of years.
Obama was used to rope in the Left/Democrats/Liberals and Trump is being used to rope in the Right/Republicans/Conservatives, while the same agenda relentlessly moves forward.
You’re right to be pessimistic, since there isn’t a snowball’s chance in hell of Trump doing anything that reverses the damage.
If he does try to leave the reservation (which is not going to happen) then he’ll end up on a slab like Kennedy did.
Anyone that didn’t get the game being played when the Order stuck the actor Reagan in office, is likely never going to get it.
Current events hint: Trump=Reality TV star……..get it???
‘Trump’……ever heard of the card game called ‘Bridge’……get it?
And this on the heels of an African, black, homosexual, with the middle name ‘Hussein’and ‘married’ to a transgender ‘wife’…..get it?
Anyone, who doesn’t see the unabashed cynicism here by the puppet-masters, is severely mentally challenged.
The agents that scripted these characters have got to be laughing their asses off at the gullibility and/or stupidity of the sheep.
Also, it may be a good sign that you’re not on the Alt-fake-news list since it’s highly likely that many of those on the list are controlled opposition, like Alex Jones, Drudge, Breitbart, Goodman, etc.
You know, on the list to try to actually make them seem even more legitimate to truth seekers.
Anyway Jim, keep up the good work.
Cheers
Alex, Obamacare is a disaster and you are very confused on the idea of Obamacare vs the reality. The idea sold to us (Hospital Executives) was that everyone would have health insurance and therefore no more charity care, which was to offset 15% reductions in reimbursement from Medicare. 7 years later and we have more charity care than ever and are minus 15% in revenue from Medicare. That’s why 70+ hospitals have shut down since 2010. Read it:
http://www.beckershospitalreview.com/finance/a-state-by-state-breakdown-of-71-rural-hospital-closures.html
Admin, no need to argue with the uninformed….
Mr. Quinn,
Thank you for your efforts in putting out parts one and two.
Beautifully constructed, and paced and everyone really appreciates
your analysis. I sure do.
Happy (best to you and yours) New Year,
Suzanna
For all the vitrol aand hubris about how their taxed labor is used to pay for the impoverished’s social services…especially millenials who have only been on the planet a 1/4 of the time as many of you and were born into these circumstances, EAT SHIT and DIE!
Any critical thinking, self-honest, person from any income bracket appreciates the value of work and the self-worth created in doing and completing a task!
Again, we won’t get a choice in the matter. Universal basic income will become the norm!
http://www.investopedia.com/news/finland-tries-out-basic-income/
The tech guus, many of who met with Trump, believe a universal basic income is the societal operating system needed after s postindustrial state. HAHA! I can’t make this shit up! Self check kiosks, the decline of brick and mortar stores, driverless planes, trains and automobiles and the continued debasement of currencies as the race to the bottom intensifies will provide the crises needed to justify the suggestion, public presentation and implementation of a basic income. Wow! How many impoverished people of all colors would Trump win over with such a policy? Probably wouldnt happen for a few years though.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/something-for-everyone-0000546-v22n1
Trump can simply kill Obamacare by enforcing the law as it was originally passed. He can cancel the exemptions and other modifying strokes of a pen that Obama put in place; consequently, the beast will collapse under its own weight. Trump plays the “law and order” gambit that he is just enforcing law as it is written; in order to, ensure fairness and equality intended by the forefathers. Congress can then act to save it or let it die while they squabble.
I reported on Modi’s Demonitization and inadvertently spelled it Demonization – but then I realized that was also apropos 😉